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in the beginning my mouth was very dry

so were my eyes and feet

the eye doctor tested my dry eyes and recommended an otc omega 3 fatty acid gelcap

i think it was called hydro eye or hydro tear

i bought it on line

this was for my eyes, but 2 extra pluses were that my desert mouth turned into an oasis and my dry feet are no longer dry

then when i saw a new cardiologist, and he saw that i was taking this omega 3 fatty acid, he was glad to see that i was on it from a cardiac persepective

so instead of otc, he wrote a prescription for Lovaza

now instead of taking 4 gel caps a day, i take 2

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Subject: Sjogren's questionTo: Breathe-Support Date: Saturday, May 23, 2009, 5:42 PM

I have noticed that there are a number of people on this forum who have Sjogren's Syndrome, as do I. My rheumy told me to use Biotin toothpaste and Biotin mouthwash, as well as Optiva (for the dry eyes). Lately, I have been waking several times during the night, because my mouth feels like the Sahara, and I need to sip some water before I can go back to sleep. This morning, as a little test, I tried to stick a tissue to my tongue (I know - a little wierd). There was absolutely NO saliva at all. I'm wondering if anyone on the forum has a similar problem, and if anyone has successfully tried some other treatment for dry mouth, and if so what it is. B

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Joyce - Thanks for the info. I see that Puritan has a 1000 mg Omega 3 gelcap. Do you remember the dosage you were taking before going to the prescription level?

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Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up. Galatians 6:9

To: Breathe-Support Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 6:46:34 PMSubject: Re: Sjogren's question

in the beginning my mouth was very dry

so were my eyes and feet

the eye doctor tested my dry eyes and recommended an otc omega 3 fatty acid gelcap

i think it was called hydro eye or hydro tear

i bought it on line

this was for my eyes, but 2 extra pluses were that my desert mouth turned into an oasis and my dry feet are no longer dry

then when i saw a new cardiologist, and he saw that i was taking this omega 3 fatty acid, he was glad to see that i was on it from a cardiac persepective

so instead of otc, he wrote a prescription for Lovaza

now instead of taking 4 gel caps a day, i take 2

Pink Joyce (IPF 3/06) IFA 5/09 Pennsylvania

Donate Life Listed 1/09 Inactive 4/09

www.transplantfund. org

From: Barbara <bamny (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>Subject: Sjogren's questionTo: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comDate: Saturday, May 23, 2009, 5:42 PM

I have noticed that there are a number of people on this forum who have Sjogren's Syndrome, as do I. My rheumy told me to use Biotin toothpaste and Biotin mouthwash, as well as Optiva (for the dry eyes). Lately, I have been waking several times during the night, because my mouth feels like the Sahara, and I need to sip some water before I can go back to sleep. This morning, as a little test, I tried to stick a tissue to my tongue (I know - a little wierd). There was absolutely NO saliva at all. I'm wondering if anyone on the forum has a similar problem, and if anyone has successfully tried some other treatment for dry mouth, and if so what it is. B

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no i don't remember the dosage

Barbara

please check with your doctor before you order it

he needs to tell you if it is safe for you and what dosage you should get

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Subject: Re: Sjogren's questionTo: Breathe-Support Date: Saturday, May 23, 2009, 7:39 PM

Joyce - Thanks for the info. I see that Puritan has a 1000 mg Omega 3 gelcap. Do you remember the dosage you were taking before going to the prescription level?

B

Barbara McD

IPF, Sept 08

Beautiful Western NC

Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up. Galatians 6:9

From: Joyce T Rosenberg <pinkrockybeach@ yahoo.com>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comSent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 6:46:34 PMSubject: Re: Sjogren's question

in the beginning my mouth was very dry

so were my eyes and feet

the eye doctor tested my dry eyes and recommended an otc omega 3 fatty acid gelcap

i think it was called hydro eye or hydro tear

i bought it on line

this was for my eyes, but 2 extra pluses were that my desert mouth turned into an oasis and my dry feet are no longer dry

then when i saw a new cardiologist, and he saw that i was taking this omega 3 fatty acid, he was glad to see that i was on it from a cardiac persepective

so instead of otc, he wrote a prescription for Lovaza

now instead of taking 4 gel caps a day, i take 2

Pink Joyce (IPF 3/06) IFA 5/09 Pennsylvania

Donate Life Listed 1/09 Inactive 4/09

www.transplantfund. org

From: Barbara <bamny (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>Subject: Sjogren's questionTo: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comDate: Saturday, May 23, 2009, 5:42 PM

I have noticed that there are a number of people on this forum who have Sjogren's Syndrome, as do I. My rheumy told me to use Biotin toothpaste and Biotin mouthwash, as well as Optiva (for the dry eyes). Lately, I have been waking several times during the night, because my mouth feels like the Sahara, and I need to sip some water before I can go back to sleep. This morning, as a little test, I tried to stick a tissue to my tongue (I know - a little wierd). There was absolutely NO saliva at all. I'm wondering if anyone on the forum has a similar problem, and if anyone has successfully tried some other treatment for dry mouth, and if so what it is. B

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Barbara, I do not have Sjogren's

but I do have the dry mouth and dry eyes due to medications.

I use Biotene or Oasis mouth wash ( they have small spray take along

bottles too) and I use Refresh artifical

tears for the eyes. The products are very helpful and I no longer have

that sahara feeling at night.

Biotene even has a 8 hour gel for dry mouth. I hope this info helps.

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Barbara wrote:

I have noticed that there are a number of people on this forum who

have Sjogren's Syndrome, as do I. My rheumy told me to use Biotin

toothpaste and Biotin mouthwash, as well as Optiva (for the dry eyes).

Lately, I have been waking several times during the night, because my

mouth feels like the Sahara, and I need to sip some water before I can

go back to sleep. This morning, as a little test, I tried to stick a

tissue to my tongue (I know - a little wierd). There was absolutely NO

saliva at all. I'm wondering if anyone on the forum has a similar

problem, and if anyone has successfully tried some other treatment for

dry mouth, and if so what it is.

B

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I have a humidifier on my oxygen concentrator. That has helped me. The dry mouth is bad but the dry nose bothers me more. I haven't really had any treatment except for the dentist telling me to use Biotene and chew Trident gum to help prevent tooth decay.Beverley Joy, 71, IPF 1-09, Sjogren's, Fibromyalgia, pre diabetes, IdahoSubject: Sjogren's questionTo: Breathe-Support Date: Saturday, May 23, 2009, 2:42 PM

I have noticed that there are a number of people on this forum who have Sjogren's Syndrome, as do I. My rheumy told me to use Biotin toothpaste and Biotin mouthwash, as well as Optiva (for the dry eyes). Lately, I have been waking several times during the night, because my mouth feels like the Sahara, and I need to sip some water before I can go back to sleep. This morning, as a little test, I tried to stick a tissue to my tongue (I know - a little wierd). There was absolutely NO saliva at all. I'm wondering if anyone on the forum has a similar problem, and if anyone has successfully tried some other treatment for dry mouth, and if so what it is.

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I have a humidifier on my oxygen concentrator. That has helped me. The dry mouth is bad but the dry nose bothers me more. I haven't really had any treatment except for the dentist telling me to use Biotene and chew Trident gum to help prevent tooth decay.Beverley Joy, 71, IPF 1-09, Sjogren's, Fibromyalgia, pre diabetes, IdahoSubject: Sjogren's questionTo: Breathe-Support Date: Saturday, May 23, 2009, 2:42 PM

I have noticed that there are a number of people on this forum who have Sjogren's Syndrome, as do I. My rheumy told me to use Biotin toothpaste and Biotin mouthwash, as well as Optiva (for the dry eyes). Lately, I have been waking several times during the night, because my mouth feels like the Sahara, and I need to sip some water before I can go back to sleep. This morning, as a little test, I tried to stick a tissue to my tongue (I know - a little wierd). There was absolutely NO saliva at all. I'm wondering if anyone on the forum has a similar problem, and if anyone has successfully tried some other treatment for dry mouth, and if so what it is.

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Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 2:42 PM

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Subject: Sjogren's question

Barbara,

I have Lupus and Sjogrens. I use Biotin toothpaste, mouthwash and gum and also use Optiva. My dentist has a mantra that I try to follow. SIP - SWISH - SWALLOW. For us it is not enough just to drink we have to wet the entire inside of our mouths. I keep a sports bottle of cold water on my headboard and every time I get up to go to the bathroom I make sure to SSS several times. If you haven't already, get a sonicare. I have already lost teeth because of my Sjogrens. Mainly because it took them soooooooooooooooooooo long to figure it out. Have you had the litmus test in your eyes yet? That's a dandy. The doc sticks a piece of paper under your bottom eyelid then leave it 5 minutes. YUCKY! Mine was bone dry. We are discussing doing tubes to help with tear migration but then the IPF thing kind of caught us off guard so that has been put on the back burner. My hardest thing with Sjogrens if having to give up soda pop. I AM A PEPPER! With Sjogrens it is way more important to brush AT LEAST 3 times a day if not more, floss, brush your cheeks, tongue and gums. And most of all make sure the last thing in your mouth before bed is water. And just a warning, I have woke up before and it felt like my throat was stuck together. I just had to drink a little water to get things right but I know the first time it scared the bejonkers out or me. Hope this helped.

Sunny 51 PF '09, Lupus/Sjogrens/Arthritis/Asthma '04, Barrett's Disease '08, Hyperthyroid '08, CAN '09, Hiatal Hernia '09, Idaho

I have noticed that there are a number of people on this forum who have Sjogren's Syndrome, as do I. My rheumy told me to use Biotin toothpaste and Biotin mouthwash, as well as Optiva (for the dry eyes). Lately, I have been waking several times during the night, because my mouth feels like the Sahara, and I need to sip some water before I can go back to sleep. This morning, as a little test, I tried to stick a tissue to my tongue (I know - a little wierd). There was absolutely NO saliva at all. I'm wondering if anyone on the forum has a similar problem, and if anyone has successfully tried some other treatment for dry mouth, and if so what it is. B

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From: Barbara

Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 2:42 PM

To: Breathe-Support

Subject: Sjogren's question

Barbara,

I have Lupus and Sjogrens. I use Biotin toothpaste, mouthwash and gum and also use Optiva. My dentist has a mantra that I try to follow. SIP - SWISH - SWALLOW. For us it is not enough just to drink we have to wet the entire inside of our mouths. I keep a sports bottle of cold water on my headboard and every time I get up to go to the bathroom I make sure to SSS several times. If you haven't already, get a sonicare. I have already lost teeth because of my Sjogrens. Mainly because it took them soooooooooooooooooooo long to figure it out. Have you had the litmus test in your eyes yet? That's a dandy. The doc sticks a piece of paper under your bottom eyelid then leave it 5 minutes. YUCKY! Mine was bone dry. We are discussing doing tubes to help with tear migration but then the IPF thing kind of caught us off guard so that has been put on the back burner. My hardest thing with Sjogrens if having to give up soda pop. I AM A PEPPER! With Sjogrens it is way more important to brush AT LEAST 3 times a day if not more, floss, brush your cheeks, tongue and gums. And most of all make sure the last thing in your mouth before bed is water. And just a warning, I have woke up before and it felt like my throat was stuck together. I just had to drink a little water to get things right but I know the first time it scared the bejonkers out or me. Hope this helped.

Sunny 51 PF '09, Lupus/Sjogrens/Arthritis/Asthma '04, Barrett's Disease '08, Hyperthyroid '08, CAN '09, Hiatal Hernia '09, Idaho

I have noticed that there are a number of people on this forum who have Sjogren's Syndrome, as do I. My rheumy told me to use Biotin toothpaste and Biotin mouthwash, as well as Optiva (for the dry eyes). Lately, I have been waking several times during the night, because my mouth feels like the Sahara, and I need to sip some water before I can go back to sleep. This morning, as a little test, I tried to stick a tissue to my tongue (I know - a little wierd). There was absolutely NO saliva at all. I'm wondering if anyone on the forum has a similar problem, and if anyone has successfully tried some other treatment for dry mouth, and if so what it is. B

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Sunny

when my eye doc did the paper test in my eye, it was bone dry too

he talked about using those tubes, but found that the omega 3 fatty acid -- hydro eye? or hydro tear? -- helped

so i don't need the tubes

ask your doc about it

it also helped with the dry mouth and dry feet

Pink Joyce (IPF 3/06) IFA 5/09 Pennsylvania

Donate Life Listed 1/09 Inactive 4/09

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Subject: Re: Sjogren's questionTo: Breathe-Support Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 5:27 AM

From: Barbara

Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 2:42 PM

To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Sjogren's question

Barbara,

I have Lupus and Sjogrens. I use Biotin toothpaste, mouthwash and gum and also use Optiva. My dentist has a mantra that I try to follow. SIP - SWISH - SWALLOW. For us it is not enough just to drink we have to wet the entire inside of our mouths. I keep a sports bottle of cold water on my headboard and every time I get up to go to the bathroom I make sure to SSS several times. If you haven't already, get a sonicare. I have already lost teeth because of my Sjogrens. Mainly because it took them soooooooooooooooooo oo long to figure it out. Have you had the litmus test in your eyes yet? That's a dandy. The doc sticks a piece of paper under your bottom eyelid then leave it 5 minutes. YUCKY! Mine was bone dry. We are discussing doing tubes to help with tear migration but then the IPF thing kind of caught us off guard so that has been put on the back

burner. My hardest thing with Sjogrens if having to give up soda pop. I AM A PEPPER! With Sjogrens it is way more important to brush AT LEAST 3 times a day if not more, floss, brush your cheeks, tongue and gums. And most of all make sure the last thing in your mouth before bed is water. And just a warning, I have woke up before and it felt like my throat was stuck together. I just had to drink a little water to get things right but I know the first time it scared the bejonkers out or me. Hope this helped.

Sunny 51 PF '09, Lupus/Sjogrens/ Arthritis/ Asthma '04, Barrett's Disease '08, Hyperthyroid '08, CAN '09, Hiatal Hernia '09, Idaho

I have noticed that there are a number of people on this forum who have Sjogren's Syndrome, as do I. My rheumy told me to use Biotin toothpaste and Biotin mouthwash, as well as Optiva (for the dry eyes). Lately, I have been waking several times during the night, because my mouth feels like the Sahara, and I need to sip some water before I can go back to sleep. This morning, as a little test, I tried to stick a tissue to my tongue (I know - a little wierd). There was absolutely NO saliva at all. I'm wondering if anyone on the forum has a similar problem, and if anyone has successfully tried some other treatment for dry mouth, and if so what it is. B

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Sunny

when my eye doc did the paper test in my eye, it was bone dry too

he talked about using those tubes, but found that the omega 3 fatty acid -- hydro eye? or hydro tear? -- helped

so i don't need the tubes

ask your doc about it

it also helped with the dry mouth and dry feet

Pink Joyce (IPF 3/06) IFA 5/09 Pennsylvania

Donate Life Listed 1/09 Inactive 4/09

www.transplantfund.org---

Subject: Re: Sjogren's questionTo: Breathe-Support Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 5:27 AM

From: Barbara

Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 2:42 PM

To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Sjogren's question

Barbara,

I have Lupus and Sjogrens. I use Biotin toothpaste, mouthwash and gum and also use Optiva. My dentist has a mantra that I try to follow. SIP - SWISH - SWALLOW. For us it is not enough just to drink we have to wet the entire inside of our mouths. I keep a sports bottle of cold water on my headboard and every time I get up to go to the bathroom I make sure to SSS several times. If you haven't already, get a sonicare. I have already lost teeth because of my Sjogrens. Mainly because it took them soooooooooooooooooo oo long to figure it out. Have you had the litmus test in your eyes yet? That's a dandy. The doc sticks a piece of paper under your bottom eyelid then leave it 5 minutes. YUCKY! Mine was bone dry. We are discussing doing tubes to help with tear migration but then the IPF thing kind of caught us off guard so that has been put on the back

burner. My hardest thing with Sjogrens if having to give up soda pop. I AM A PEPPER! With Sjogrens it is way more important to brush AT LEAST 3 times a day if not more, floss, brush your cheeks, tongue and gums. And most of all make sure the last thing in your mouth before bed is water. And just a warning, I have woke up before and it felt like my throat was stuck together. I just had to drink a little water to get things right but I know the first time it scared the bejonkers out or me. Hope this helped.

Sunny 51 PF '09, Lupus/Sjogrens/ Arthritis/ Asthma '04, Barrett's Disease '08, Hyperthyroid '08, CAN '09, Hiatal Hernia '09, Idaho

I have noticed that there are a number of people on this forum who have Sjogren's Syndrome, as do I. My rheumy told me to use Biotin toothpaste and Biotin mouthwash, as well as Optiva (for the dry eyes). Lately, I have been waking several times during the night, because my mouth feels like the Sahara, and I need to sip some water before I can go back to sleep. This morning, as a little test, I tried to stick a tissue to my tongue (I know - a little wierd). There was absolutely NO saliva at all. I'm wondering if anyone on the forum has a similar problem, and if anyone has successfully tried some other treatment for dry mouth, and if so what it is. B

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Joyce, can you find out the exact name of what worked for you. I take an omega 3 fatty acid supplement but this sounds like a topical solution? Anything that will prevent more procedures I would appreciate.

Sunny 51 PF '09, Lupus/Sjogrens/Arthritis/Asthma '04, Barrett's Disease '08, Hyperthyroid '08, CAN '09, Hiatal Hernia '09, Idaho

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Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 6:43 AM

To: Breathe-Support

Subject: Re: Sjogren's question

Sunny

when my eye doc did the paper test in my eye, it was bone dry too

he talked about using those tubes, but found that the omega 3 fatty acid -- hydro eye? or hydro tear? -- helped

so i don't need the tubes

ask your doc about it

it also helped with the dry mouth and dry feet

Pink Joyce (IPF 3/06) IFA 5/09 Pennsylvania

Donate Life Listed 1/09 Inactive 4/09

www.transplantfund.org--- On Wed, 5/27/09, rpickel1 (AT) msn (DOT) com <rpickel1 (AT) msn (DOT) com> wrote:

From: rpickel1 (AT) msn (DOT) com <rpickel1 (AT) msn (DOT) com>Subject: Re: Sjogren's questionTo: Breathe-Support Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 5:27 AM

From: Barbara

Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 2:42 PM

To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Sjogren's question

Barbara,

I have Lupus and Sjogrens. I use Biotin toothpaste, mouthwash and gum and also use Optiva. My dentist has a mantra that I try to follow. SIP - SWISH - SWALLOW. For us it is not enough just to drink we have to wet the entire inside of our mouths. I keep a sports bottle of cold water on my headboard and every time I get up to go to the bathroom I make sure to SSS several times. If you haven't already, get a sonicare. I have already lost teeth because of my Sjogrens. Mainly because it took them soooooooooooooooooo oo long to figure it out. Have you had the litmus test in your eyes yet? That's a dandy. The doc sticks a piece of paper under your bottom eyelid then leave it 5 minutes. YUCKY! Mine was bone dry. We are discussing doing tubes to help with tear migration but then the IPF thing kind of caught us off guard so that has been put on the back burner. My hardest thing with Sjogrens if having to give up soda pop. I AM A PEPPER! With Sjogrens it is way more important to brush AT LEAST 3 times a day if not more, floss, brush your cheeks, tongue and gums. And most of all make sure the last thing in your mouth before bed is water. And just a warning, I have woke up before and it felt like my throat was stuck together. I just had to drink a little water to get things right but I know the first time it scared the bejonkers out or me. Hope this helped.

Sunny 51 PF '09, Lupus/Sjogrens/ Arthritis/ Asthma '04, Barrett's Disease '08, Hyperthyroid '08, CAN '09, Hiatal Hernia '09, Idaho

I have noticed that there are a number of people on this forum who have Sjogren's Syndrome, as do I. My rheumy told me to use Biotin toothpaste and Biotin mouthwash, as well as Optiva (for the dry eyes). Lately, I have been waking several times during the night, because my mouth feels like the Sahara, and I need to sip some water before I can go back to sleep. This morning, as a little test, I tried to stick a tissue to my tongue (I know - a little wierd). There was absolutely NO saliva at all. I'm wondering if anyone on the forum has a similar problem, and if anyone has successfully tried some other treatment for dry mouth, and if so what it is. B

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Joyce, can you find out the exact name of what worked for you. I take an omega 3 fatty acid supplement but this sounds like a topical solution? Anything that will prevent more procedures I would appreciate.

Sunny 51 PF '09, Lupus/Sjogrens/Arthritis/Asthma '04, Barrett's Disease '08, Hyperthyroid '08, CAN '09, Hiatal Hernia '09, Idaho

From: Joyce T Rosenberg

Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 6:43 AM

To: Breathe-Support

Subject: Re: Sjogren's question

Sunny

when my eye doc did the paper test in my eye, it was bone dry too

he talked about using those tubes, but found that the omega 3 fatty acid -- hydro eye? or hydro tear? -- helped

so i don't need the tubes

ask your doc about it

it also helped with the dry mouth and dry feet

Pink Joyce (IPF 3/06) IFA 5/09 Pennsylvania

Donate Life Listed 1/09 Inactive 4/09

www.transplantfund.org--- On Wed, 5/27/09, rpickel1 (AT) msn (DOT) com <rpickel1 (AT) msn (DOT) com> wrote:

From: rpickel1 (AT) msn (DOT) com <rpickel1 (AT) msn (DOT) com>Subject: Re: Sjogren's questionTo: Breathe-Support Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 5:27 AM

From: Barbara

Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 2:42 PM

To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Sjogren's question

Barbara,

I have Lupus and Sjogrens. I use Biotin toothpaste, mouthwash and gum and also use Optiva. My dentist has a mantra that I try to follow. SIP - SWISH - SWALLOW. For us it is not enough just to drink we have to wet the entire inside of our mouths. I keep a sports bottle of cold water on my headboard and every time I get up to go to the bathroom I make sure to SSS several times. If you haven't already, get a sonicare. I have already lost teeth because of my Sjogrens. Mainly because it took them soooooooooooooooooo oo long to figure it out. Have you had the litmus test in your eyes yet? That's a dandy. The doc sticks a piece of paper under your bottom eyelid then leave it 5 minutes. YUCKY! Mine was bone dry. We are discussing doing tubes to help with tear migration but then the IPF thing kind of caught us off guard so that has been put on the back burner. My hardest thing with Sjogrens if having to give up soda pop. I AM A PEPPER! With Sjogrens it is way more important to brush AT LEAST 3 times a day if not more, floss, brush your cheeks, tongue and gums. And most of all make sure the last thing in your mouth before bed is water. And just a warning, I have woke up before and it felt like my throat was stuck together. I just had to drink a little water to get things right but I know the first time it scared the bejonkers out or me. Hope this helped.

Sunny 51 PF '09, Lupus/Sjogrens/ Arthritis/ Asthma '04, Barrett's Disease '08, Hyperthyroid '08, CAN '09, Hiatal Hernia '09, Idaho

I have noticed that there are a number of people on this forum who have Sjogren's Syndrome, as do I. My rheumy told me to use Biotin toothpaste and Biotin mouthwash, as well as Optiva (for the dry eyes). Lately, I have been waking several times during the night, because my mouth feels like the Sahara, and I need to sip some water before I can go back to sleep. This morning, as a little test, I tried to stick a tissue to my tongue (I know - a little wierd). There was absolutely NO saliva at all. I'm wondering if anyone on the forum has a similar problem, and if anyone has successfully tried some other treatment for dry mouth, and if so what it is. B

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Thanks, Sunny, for the advice on Sjogrens. I will try to step up the toothbrushing; my teeth have always been an issue for me. The dryeye is not too bad yet. I have had a few others offer their thoughts - THANK YOU JOYCE, LINDA AND BJ- and will try taking omega-3 caps before trying any prescriptions. It's nice to know there are solutions yet to be tried!

Do any other Sjogren's sufferers have very dry skin, and/or nosebleeds?

B

Barbara McD

IPF, Sept 08

Beautiful Western NC

Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up. Galatians 6:9

To: Breathe-Support Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 5:27:24 AMSubject: Re: Sjogren's question

From: Barbara

Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 2:42 PM

To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Sjogren's question

Barbara,

I have Lupus and Sjogrens. I use Biotin toothpaste, mouthwash and gum and also use Optiva. My dentist has a mantra that I try to follow. SIP - SWISH - SWALLOW. For us it is not enough just to drink we have to wet the entire inside of our mouths. I keep a sports bottle of cold water on my headboard and every time I get up to go to the bathroom I make sure to SSS several times. If you haven't already, get a sonicare. I have already lost teeth because of my Sjogrens. Mainly because it took them soooooooooooooooooo oo long to figure it out. Have you had the litmus test in your eyes yet? That's a dandy. The doc sticks a piece of paper under your bottom eyelid then leave it 5 minutes. YUCKY! Mine was bone dry. We are discussing doing tubes to help with tear migration but then the IPF thing kind of caught us off guard so that has been put on the back

burner. My hardest thing with Sjogrens if having to give up soda pop. I AM A PEPPER! With Sjogrens it is way more important to brush AT LEAST 3 times a day if not more, floss, brush your cheeks, tongue and gums. And most of all make sure the last thing in your mouth before bed is water. And just a warning, I have woke up before and it felt like my throat was stuck together. I just had to drink a little water to get things right but I know the first time it scared the bejonkers out or me. Hope this helped.

Sunny 51 PF '09, Lupus/Sjogrens/ Arthritis/ Asthma '04, Barrett's Disease '08, Hyperthyroid '08, CAN '09, Hiatal Hernia '09, Idaho

I have noticed that there are a number of people on this forum who have Sjogren's Syndrome, as do I. My rheumy told me to use Biotin toothpaste and Biotin mouthwash, as well as Optiva (for the dry eyes). Lately, I have been waking several times during the night, because my mouth feels like the Sahara, and I need to sip some water before I can go back to sleep. This morning, as a little test, I tried to stick a tissue to my tongue (I know - a little wierd). There was absolutely NO saliva at all. I'm wondering if anyone on the forum has a similar problem, and if anyone has successfully tried some other treatment for dry mouth, and if so what it is. B

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Barbara, ditto on the nose bleeds although they are never severe and stop right away. Now that my "Air Family" has pulled my head out of my rump and I have taken control of my medical care I will be asking my doctor about dry skin next visit. I have doctors that you have to brow beat in to giving you answers but I have dry patches on my back, arms, and thighs. I never connected it to my Sjogrens before so there you go; you are already helping someone else and you are just getting your feet wet. Thanks for bringing that up.

Sunny 51 PF '09, Lupus/Sjogrens/Arthritis/Asthma '04, Barrett's Disease '08, Hyperthyroid '08, CAN '09, Hiatal Hernia '09, Idaho

From: Barbara McD

Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 8:38 AM

To: Breathe-Support

Subject: Re: Sjogren's question

Thanks, Sunny, for the advice on Sjogrens. I will try to step up the toothbrushing; my teeth have always been an issue for me. The dryeye is not too bad yet. I have had a few others offer their thoughts - THANK YOU JOYCE, LINDA AND BJ- and will try taking omega-3 caps before trying any prescriptions. It's nice to know there are solutions yet to be tried!

Do any other Sjogren's sufferers have very dry skin, and/or nosebleeds?

B

Barbara McD

IPF, Sept 08

Beautiful Western NC

Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up. Galatians 6:9

From: "rpickel1 (AT) msn (DOT) com" <rpickel1 (AT) msn (DOT) com>To: Breathe-Support Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 5:27:24 AMSubject: Re: Sjogren's question

From: Barbara

Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 2:42 PM

To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Sjogren's question

Barbara,

I have Lupus and Sjogrens. I use Biotin toothpaste, mouthwash and gum and also use Optiva. My dentist has a mantra that I try to follow. SIP - SWISH - SWALLOW. For us it is not enough just to drink we have to wet the entire inside of our mouths. I keep a sports bottle of cold water on my headboard and every time I get up to go to the bathroom I make sure to SSS several times. If you haven't already, get a sonicare. I have already lost teeth because of my Sjogrens. Mainly because it took them soooooooooooooooooo oo long to figure it out. Have you had the litmus test in your eyes yet? That's a dandy. The doc sticks a piece of paper under your bottom eyelid then leave it 5 minutes. YUCKY! Mine was bone dry. We are discussing doing tubes to help with tear migration but then the IPF thing kind of caught us off guard so that has been put on the back burner. My hardest thing with Sjogrens if having to give up soda pop. I AM A PEPPER! With Sjogrens it is way more important to brush AT LEAST 3 times a day if not more, floss, brush your cheeks, tongue and gums. And most of all make sure the last thing in your mouth before bed is water. And just a warning, I have woke up before and it felt like my throat was stuck together. I just had to drink a little water to get things right but I know the first time it scared the bejonkers out or me. Hope this helped.

Sunny 51 PF '09, Lupus/Sjogrens/ Arthritis/ Asthma '04, Barrett's Disease '08, Hyperthyroid '08, CAN '09, Hiatal Hernia '09, Idaho

I have noticed that there are a number of people on this forum who have Sjogren's Syndrome, as do I. My rheumy told me to use Biotin toothpaste and Biotin mouthwash, as well as Optiva (for the dry eyes). Lately, I have been waking several times during the night, because my mouth feels like the Sahara, and I need to sip some water before I can go back to sleep. This morning, as a little test, I tried to stick a tissue to my tongue (I know - a little wierd). There was absolutely NO saliva at all. I'm wondering if anyone on the forum has a similar problem, and if anyone has successfully tried some other treatment for dry mouth, and if so what it is. B

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it was a gel cap

when the cardiologist saw it on my med list, he was happy to see it and prescribed the prescription variety -- Lovaza

talk to your doc

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Subject: Re: Sjogren's questionTo: Breathe-Support Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 11:34 AM

Joyce, can you find out the exact name of what worked for you. I take an omega 3 fatty acid supplement but this sounds like a topical solution? Anything that will prevent more procedures I would appreciate.

Sunny 51 PF '09, Lupus/Sjogrens/ Arthritis/ Asthma '04, Barrett's Disease '08, Hyperthyroid '08, CAN '09, Hiatal Hernia '09, Idaho

From: Joyce T Rosenberg

Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 6:43 AM

To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Re: Sjogren's question

Sunny

when my eye doc did the paper test in my eye, it was bone dry too

he talked about using those tubes, but found that the omega 3 fatty acid -- hydro eye? or hydro tear? -- helped

so i don't need the tubes

ask your doc about it

it also helped with the dry mouth and dry feet

Pink Joyce (IPF 3/06) IFA 5/09 Pennsylvania

Donate Life Listed 1/09 Inactive 4/09

www.transplantfund. org

From: rpickel1 (AT) msn (DOT) com <rpickel1 (AT) msn (DOT) com>Subject: Re: Sjogren's questionTo: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comDate: Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 5:27 AM

From: Barbara

Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 2:42 PM

To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Sjogren's question

Barbara,

I have Lupus and Sjogrens. I use Biotin toothpaste, mouthwash and gum and also use Optiva. My dentist has a mantra that I try to follow. SIP - SWISH - SWALLOW. For us it is not enough just to drink we have to wet the entire inside of our mouths. I keep a sports bottle of cold water on my headboard and every time I get up to go to the bathroom I make sure to SSS several times. If you haven't already, get a sonicare. I have already lost teeth because of my Sjogrens. Mainly because it took them soooooooooooooooooo oo long to figure it out. Have you had the litmus test in your eyes yet? That's a dandy. The doc sticks a piece of paper under your bottom eyelid then leave it 5 minutes. YUCKY! Mine was bone dry. We are discussing doing tubes to help with tear migration but then the IPF thing kind of caught us off guard so that has been put on the back

burner. My hardest thing with Sjogrens if having to give up soda pop. I AM A PEPPER! With Sjogrens it is way more important to brush AT LEAST 3 times a day if not more, floss, brush your cheeks, tongue and gums. And most of all make sure the last thing in your mouth before bed is water. And just a warning, I have woke up before and it felt like my throat was stuck together. I just had to drink a little water to get things right but I know the first time it scared the bejonkers out or me. Hope this helped.

Sunny 51 PF '09, Lupus/Sjogrens/ Arthritis/ Asthma '04, Barrett's Disease '08, Hyperthyroid '08, CAN '09, Hiatal Hernia '09, Idaho

I have noticed that there are a number of people on this forum who have Sjogren's Syndrome, as do I. My rheumy told me to use Biotin toothpaste and Biotin mouthwash, as well as Optiva (for the dry eyes). Lately, I have been waking several times during the night, because my mouth feels like the Sahara, and I need to sip some water before I can go back to sleep. This morning, as a little test, I tried to stick a tissue to my tongue (I know - a little wierd). There was absolutely NO saliva at all. I'm wondering if anyone on the forum has a similar problem, and if anyone has successfully tried some other treatment for dry mouth, and if so what it is. B

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it was a gel cap

when the cardiologist saw it on my med list, he was happy to see it and prescribed the prescription variety -- Lovaza

talk to your doc

Pink Joyce (IPF 3/06) IFA 5/09 Pennsylvania

Donate Life Listed 1/09 Inactive 4/09

www.transplantfund.org---

Subject: Re: Sjogren's questionTo: Breathe-Support Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 11:34 AM

Joyce, can you find out the exact name of what worked for you. I take an omega 3 fatty acid supplement but this sounds like a topical solution? Anything that will prevent more procedures I would appreciate.

Sunny 51 PF '09, Lupus/Sjogrens/ Arthritis/ Asthma '04, Barrett's Disease '08, Hyperthyroid '08, CAN '09, Hiatal Hernia '09, Idaho

From: Joyce T Rosenberg

Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 6:43 AM

To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Re: Sjogren's question

Sunny

when my eye doc did the paper test in my eye, it was bone dry too

he talked about using those tubes, but found that the omega 3 fatty acid -- hydro eye? or hydro tear? -- helped

so i don't need the tubes

ask your doc about it

it also helped with the dry mouth and dry feet

Pink Joyce (IPF 3/06) IFA 5/09 Pennsylvania

Donate Life Listed 1/09 Inactive 4/09

www.transplantfund. org

From: rpickel1 (AT) msn (DOT) com <rpickel1 (AT) msn (DOT) com>Subject: Re: Sjogren's questionTo: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comDate: Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 5:27 AM

From: Barbara

Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 2:42 PM

To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Sjogren's question

Barbara,

I have Lupus and Sjogrens. I use Biotin toothpaste, mouthwash and gum and also use Optiva. My dentist has a mantra that I try to follow. SIP - SWISH - SWALLOW. For us it is not enough just to drink we have to wet the entire inside of our mouths. I keep a sports bottle of cold water on my headboard and every time I get up to go to the bathroom I make sure to SSS several times. If you haven't already, get a sonicare. I have already lost teeth because of my Sjogrens. Mainly because it took them soooooooooooooooooo oo long to figure it out. Have you had the litmus test in your eyes yet? That's a dandy. The doc sticks a piece of paper under your bottom eyelid then leave it 5 minutes. YUCKY! Mine was bone dry. We are discussing doing tubes to help with tear migration but then the IPF thing kind of caught us off guard so that has been put on the back

burner. My hardest thing with Sjogrens if having to give up soda pop. I AM A PEPPER! With Sjogrens it is way more important to brush AT LEAST 3 times a day if not more, floss, brush your cheeks, tongue and gums. And most of all make sure the last thing in your mouth before bed is water. And just a warning, I have woke up before and it felt like my throat was stuck together. I just had to drink a little water to get things right but I know the first time it scared the bejonkers out or me. Hope this helped.

Sunny 51 PF '09, Lupus/Sjogrens/ Arthritis/ Asthma '04, Barrett's Disease '08, Hyperthyroid '08, CAN '09, Hiatal Hernia '09, Idaho

I have noticed that there are a number of people on this forum who have Sjogren's Syndrome, as do I. My rheumy told me to use Biotin toothpaste and Biotin mouthwash, as well as Optiva (for the dry eyes). Lately, I have been waking several times during the night, because my mouth feels like the Sahara, and I need to sip some water before I can go back to sleep. This morning, as a little test, I tried to stick a tissue to my tongue (I know - a little wierd). There was absolutely NO saliva at all. I'm wondering if anyone on the forum has a similar problem, and if anyone has successfully tried some other treatment for dry mouth, and if so what it is. B

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talk to your doc before you take the over the counter variety

you don't want it to interfer with your other meds or anything else going on with you

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Subject: Re: Sjogren's questionTo: Breathe-Support Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 11:38 AM

Thanks, Sunny, for the advice on Sjogrens. I will try to step up the toothbrushing; my teeth have always been an issue for me. The dryeye is not too bad yet. I have had a few others offer their thoughts - THANK YOU JOYCE, LINDA AND BJ- and will try taking omega-3 caps before trying any prescriptions. It's nice to know there are solutions yet to be tried!

Do any other Sjogren's sufferers have very dry skin, and/or nosebleeds?

B

Barbara McD

IPF, Sept 08

Beautiful Western NC

Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up. Galatians 6:9

From: "rpickel1 (AT) msn (DOT) com" <rpickel1 (AT) msn (DOT) com>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comSent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 5:27:24 AMSubject: Re: Sjogren's question

From: Barbara

Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 2:42 PM

To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Sjogren's question

Barbara,

I have Lupus and Sjogrens. I use Biotin toothpaste, mouthwash and gum and also use Optiva. My dentist has a mantra that I try to follow. SIP - SWISH - SWALLOW. For us it is not enough just to drink we have to wet the entire inside of our mouths. I keep a sports bottle of cold water on my headboard and every time I get up to go to the bathroom I make sure to SSS several times. If you haven't already, get a sonicare. I have already lost teeth because of my Sjogrens. Mainly because it took them soooooooooooooooooo oo long to figure it out. Have you had the litmus test in your eyes yet? That's a dandy. The doc sticks a piece of paper under your bottom eyelid then leave it 5 minutes. YUCKY! Mine was bone dry. We are discussing doing tubes to help with tear migration but then the IPF thing kind of caught us off guard so that has been put on the back

burner. My hardest thing with Sjogrens if having to give up soda pop. I AM A PEPPER! With Sjogrens it is way more important to brush AT LEAST 3 times a day if not more, floss, brush your cheeks, tongue and gums. And most of all make sure the last thing in your mouth before bed is water. And just a warning, I have woke up before and it felt like my throat was stuck together. I just had to drink a little water to get things right but I know the first time it scared the bejonkers out or me. Hope this helped.

Sunny 51 PF '09, Lupus/Sjogrens/ Arthritis/ Asthma '04, Barrett's Disease '08, Hyperthyroid '08, CAN '09, Hiatal Hernia '09, Idaho

I have noticed that there are a number of people on this forum who have Sjogren's Syndrome, as do I. My rheumy told me to use Biotin toothpaste and Biotin mouthwash, as well as Optiva (for the dry eyes). Lately, I have been waking several times during the night, because my mouth feels like the Sahara, and I need to sip some water before I can go back to sleep. This morning, as a little test, I tried to stick a tissue to my tongue (I know - a little wierd). There was absolutely NO saliva at all. I'm wondering if anyone on the forum has a similar problem, and if anyone has successfully tried some other treatment for dry mouth, and if so what it is. B

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Peggy. I've been trimming them a little but probably not enough. When I go to bed they touch my nose and the oxygen whistles at me. Thank you for the advice.Beverley Joy, 71, IPF 1-09, Sjogren's, Fibromyalgia, diabetes, IdahoFrom: Barbara McD <bamny (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>Subject: Re: Sjogren's questionTo: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comDate: Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 8:38 AM Thanks, Sunny, for the advice on Sjogrens. I will try to step up the toothbrushing; my teeth have always been an issue for me. The dryeye is not too bad yet. I have had a few others offer their thoughts - THANK YOU JOYCE, LINDA AND BJ- and will try taking omega-3 caps before trying any prescriptions. It's nice to know there are solutions yet to be tried! Do any other Sjogren's sufferers have very dry skin, and/or nosebleeds? B Barbara McDIPF, Sept 08Beautiful Western NC Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up. Galatians 6:9 From: "rpickel1 (AT) msn (DOT) com" <rpickel1 (AT) msn (DOT) com>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comSent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 5:27:24 AMSubject: Re: Sjogren's questionFrom: BarbaraSent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 2:42 PMTo: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comSubject: Sjogren's questionBarbara, I have Lupus and Sjogrens. I use Biotin toothpaste, mouthwash and gum and also use Optiva. My dentist has a mantra that I try to follow. SIP - SWISH - SWALLOW. For us it is not enough just to drink we have to wet the entire inside of our mouths. I keep a sports bottle of cold water on my headboard and every time I get up to go to the bathroom I make sure to SSS several times. If you haven't already, get a sonicare. I have already lost teeth because of my Sjogrens. Mainly because it took them soooooooooooooooooo oo long to figure it out. Have you had the litmus test in your eyes yet? That's a dandy. The doc sticks a piece of paper under your bottom eyelid then leave it 5 minutes. YUCKY! Mine was bone dry. We are discussing doing tubes to help with tear migration but then the IPF thing kind of caught us off

guard so that has been put on the back burner. My hardest thing with Sjogrens if having to give up soda pop. I AM A PEPPER! With Sjogrens it is way more important to brush AT LEAST 3 times a day if not more, floss, brush your cheeks, tongue and gums. And most of all make sure the last thing in your mouth before bed is water. And just a warning, I have woke up before and it felt like my throat was stuck together. I just had to drink a little water to get things right but I know the first time it scared the bejonkers out or me. Hope this helped. Sunny 51 PF '09, Lupus/Sjogrens/ Arthritis/ Asthma '04, Barrett's Disease '08, Hyperthyroid '08, CAN '09, Hiatal Hernia '09, IdahoI have noticed that there are a number of people on this forum who have Sjogren's Syndrome, as do I. My rheumy told me to use Biotin toothpaste and Biotin mouthwash, as well as Optiva (for the dry eyes). Lately, I have been waking several times during the night, because my mouth feels like the Sahara, and I need to sip some water before I can go back to sleep. This morning, as a little test, I tried to stick a tissue to my tongue (I know - a little wierd). There was absolutely NO saliva at all. I'm wondering if anyone on the forum has a similar problem, and if anyone has successfully tried some other treatment for dry mouth, and if so what it is. B

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Peggy. I've been trimming them a little but probably not enough. When I go to bed they touch my nose and the oxygen whistles at me. Thank you for the advice.Beverley Joy, 71, IPF 1-09, Sjogren's, Fibromyalgia, diabetes, IdahoFrom: Barbara McD <bamny (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>Subject: Re: Sjogren's questionTo: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comDate: Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 8:38 AM Thanks, Sunny, for the advice on Sjogrens. I will try to step up the toothbrushing; my teeth have always been an issue for me. The dryeye is not too bad yet. I have had a few others offer their thoughts - THANK YOU JOYCE, LINDA AND BJ- and will try taking omega-3 caps before trying any prescriptions. It's nice to know there are solutions yet to be tried! Do any other Sjogren's sufferers have very dry skin, and/or nosebleeds? B Barbara McDIPF, Sept 08Beautiful Western NC Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up. Galatians 6:9 From: "rpickel1 (AT) msn (DOT) com" <rpickel1 (AT) msn (DOT) com>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comSent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 5:27:24 AMSubject: Re: Sjogren's questionFrom: BarbaraSent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 2:42 PMTo: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comSubject: Sjogren's questionBarbara, I have Lupus and Sjogrens. I use Biotin toothpaste, mouthwash and gum and also use Optiva. My dentist has a mantra that I try to follow. SIP - SWISH - SWALLOW. For us it is not enough just to drink we have to wet the entire inside of our mouths. I keep a sports bottle of cold water on my headboard and every time I get up to go to the bathroom I make sure to SSS several times. If you haven't already, get a sonicare. I have already lost teeth because of my Sjogrens. Mainly because it took them soooooooooooooooooo oo long to figure it out. Have you had the litmus test in your eyes yet? That's a dandy. The doc sticks a piece of paper under your bottom eyelid then leave it 5 minutes. YUCKY! Mine was bone dry. We are discussing doing tubes to help with tear migration but then the IPF thing kind of caught us off

guard so that has been put on the back burner. My hardest thing with Sjogrens if having to give up soda pop. I AM A PEPPER! With Sjogrens it is way more important to brush AT LEAST 3 times a day if not more, floss, brush your cheeks, tongue and gums. And most of all make sure the last thing in your mouth before bed is water. And just a warning, I have woke up before and it felt like my throat was stuck together. I just had to drink a little water to get things right but I know the first time it scared the bejonkers out or me. Hope this helped. Sunny 51 PF '09, Lupus/Sjogrens/ Arthritis/ Asthma '04, Barrett's Disease '08, Hyperthyroid '08, CAN '09, Hiatal Hernia '09, IdahoI have noticed that there are a number of people on this forum who have Sjogren's Syndrome, as do I. My rheumy told me to use Biotin toothpaste and Biotin mouthwash, as well as Optiva (for the dry eyes). Lately, I have been waking several times during the night, because my mouth feels like the Sahara, and I need to sip some water before I can go back to sleep. This morning, as a little test, I tried to stick a tissue to my tongue (I know - a little wierd). There was absolutely NO saliva at all. I'm wondering if anyone on the forum has a similar problem, and if anyone has successfully tried some other treatment for dry mouth, and if so what it is. B

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I was afraid to use vasiline, but my doc said it's ok to use

the Ayr saline gel just wasn't strong enough in the winter time

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Subject: Re: Sjogren's questionTo: Breathe-Support Date: Saturday, May 30, 2009, 4:08 PM

 Peggy.... my doc told me...waaaay back that petroleum has something in it that can deteriorate the tubing. Of course I'm sure that matters as to how much and how often.

Hope you are doing well.

I feel as you do about our ML. Part sad (for me) and happy for her that her journey is completed. I talked to her the day before yesterday so we were 'all caught up'. In fact, she said, "I'm not afraid of dying"...

DAMNIT! I hate this disease but it's brought joy to me too by knowing so many wonderful souls here on the board.

MamaSher; 70, IPF 3-06, OR. NasturtiumsDon't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!

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Barbara,

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I have Lupus and Sjogrens.� I use Biotin toothpaste, mouthwash and gum and also use Optiva.� My dentist has a mantra that I try to follow.� SIP - SWISH - SWALLOW.� For us it is not enough just to drink we have to wet the entire inside of our mouths.� I keep a sports bottle of cold water on my headboard and every time I get up to go to the bathroom I make sure to SSS several times.� If you haven't already, get a sonicare.� I have already lost teeth because of my Sjogrens.� Mainly because it took them soooooooooooooooooo oo long to figure it out.� Have you had the litmus test in your eyes yet?� That's a dandy.� The doc sticks a piece of paper under your bottom eyelid then leave it 5 minutes.� YUCKY!� Mine was bone dry.� We are discussing doing tubes to help with tear migration but then the IPF thing kind of caught us off guard so that has been put on the back burner.� My hardest thing with Sjogrens

if having to give up soda pop.� I AM A PEPPER!� With Sjogrens it is way more important to brush AT LEAST 3 times a day if not more, floss, brush your cheeks, tongue and gums.� And most of all make sure the last thing in your mouth before bed is water.� And just a warning, I have woke up before and it felt like my throat was stuck together.� I just had to drink a little water to get things right but I know the first time it scared the bejonkers out or me.� Hope this helped.

�

Sunny 51 PF '09, Lupus/Sjogrens/ Arthritis/ Asthma '04, Barrett's Disease '08, Hyperthyroid '08, CAN '09, Hiatal Hernia '09,� Idaho

I have noticed that there are a number of people on this forum who have Sjogren's Syndrome, as do I. My rheumy told me to use Biotin toothpaste and Biotin mouthwash, as well as Optiva (for the dry eyes). Lately, I have been waking several times during the night, because my mouth feels like the Sahara, and I need to sip some water before I can go back to sleep. This morning, as a little test, I tried to stick a tissue to my tongue (I know - a little wierd). There was absolutely NO saliva at all. I'm wondering if anyone on the forum has a similar problem, and if anyone has successfully tried some other treatment for dry mouth, and if so what it is.�B

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The neighbors put my phone out with their backhoe sometime last Saturday so I have a lot of catching up to do. Thank you for the canula info. I'll ask my provider.Beverley Joy, 71, IPF 1-09, Sjogren's, Fibromyalgia, diabetes, Idaho

From: Barbara McD <bamny (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>Subject: Re: Sjogren's questionTo: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comDate: Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 8:38 AM

Thanks, Sunny, for the advice on Sjogrens. I will try to step up the toothbrushing; my teeth have always been an issue for me. The dryeye is not too bad yet. I have had a few others offer their thoughts - THANK YOU JOYCE, LINDA AND BJ- and will try taking omega-3 caps before trying any prescriptions. It's nice to know there are solutions yet to be tried!

Do any other Sjogren's sufferers have very dry skin, and/or nosebleeds?

B

Barbara McD

IPF, Sept 08

Beautiful Western NC

Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up. Galatians 6:9

From: "rpickel1 (AT) msn (DOT) com" <rpickel1 (AT) msn (DOT) com>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comSent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 5:27:24 AMSubject: Re: Sjogren's question

From: Barbara

Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 2:42 PM

To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Sjogren's question

Barbara,

I have Lupus and Sjogrens. I use Biotin toothpaste, mouthwash and gum and also use Optiva. My dentist has a mantra that I try to follow. SIP - SWISH - SWALLOW. For us it is not enough just to drink we have to wet the entire inside of our mouths. I keep a sports bottle of cold water on my headboard and every time I get up to go to the bathroom I make sure to SSS several times. If you haven't already, get a sonicare. I have already lost teeth because of my Sjogrens. Mainly because it took them soooooooooooooooooo oo long to figure it out. Have you had the litmus test in your eyes yet? That's a dandy. The doc sticks a piece of paper under your bottom eyelid then leave it 5 minutes. YUCKY! Mine was bone dry. We are discussing doing tubes to help with tear migration but then the IPF thing kind of caught us off guard so that has been put on the

back burner. My hardest thing with Sjogrens if having to give up soda pop. I AM A PEPPER! With Sjogrens it is way more important to brush AT LEAST 3 times a day if not more, floss, brush your cheeks, tongue and gums. And most of all make sure the last thing in your mouth before bed is water. And just a warning, I have woke up before and it felt like my throat was stuck together. I just had to drink a little water to get things right but I know the first time it scared the bejonkers out or me. Hope this helped.

Sunny 51 PF '09, Lupus/Sjogrens/ Arthritis/ Asthma '04, Barrett's Disease '08, Hyperthyroid '08, CAN '09, Hiatal Hernia '09, Idaho

I have noticed that there are a number of people on this forum who have Sjogren's Syndrome, as do I. My rheumy told me to use Biotin toothpaste and Biotin mouthwash, as well as Optiva (for the dry eyes). Lately, I have been waking several times during the night, because my mouth feels like the Sahara, and I need to sip some water before I can go back to sleep. This morning, as a little test, I tried to stick a tissue to my tongue (I know - a little wierd). There was absolutely NO saliva at all. I'm wondering if anyone on the forum has a similar problem, and if anyone has successfully tried some other treatment for dry mouth, and if so what it is. B

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The neighbors put my phone out with their backhoe sometime last Saturday so I have a lot of catching up to do. Thank you for the canula info. I'll ask my provider.Beverley Joy, 71, IPF 1-09, Sjogren's, Fibromyalgia, diabetes, Idaho

From: Barbara McD <bamny (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>Subject: Re: Sjogren's questionTo: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comDate: Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 8:38 AM

Thanks, Sunny, for the advice on Sjogrens. I will try to step up the toothbrushing; my teeth have always been an issue for me. The dryeye is not too bad yet. I have had a few others offer their thoughts - THANK YOU JOYCE, LINDA AND BJ- and will try taking omega-3 caps before trying any prescriptions. It's nice to know there are solutions yet to be tried!

Do any other Sjogren's sufferers have very dry skin, and/or nosebleeds?

B

Barbara McD

IPF, Sept 08

Beautiful Western NC

Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up. Galatians 6:9

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Subject: Sjogren's question

Barbara,

I have Lupus and Sjogrens. I use Biotin toothpaste, mouthwash and gum and also use Optiva. My dentist has a mantra that I try to follow. SIP - SWISH - SWALLOW. For us it is not enough just to drink we have to wet the entire inside of our mouths. I keep a sports bottle of cold water on my headboard and every time I get up to go to the bathroom I make sure to SSS several times. If you haven't already, get a sonicare. I have already lost teeth because of my Sjogrens. Mainly because it took them soooooooooooooooooo oo long to figure it out. Have you had the litmus test in your eyes yet? That's a dandy. The doc sticks a piece of paper under your bottom eyelid then leave it 5 minutes. YUCKY! Mine was bone dry. We are discussing doing tubes to help with tear migration but then the IPF thing kind of caught us off guard so that has been put on the

back burner. My hardest thing with Sjogrens if having to give up soda pop. I AM A PEPPER! With Sjogrens it is way more important to brush AT LEAST 3 times a day if not more, floss, brush your cheeks, tongue and gums. And most of all make sure the last thing in your mouth before bed is water. And just a warning, I have woke up before and it felt like my throat was stuck together. I just had to drink a little water to get things right but I know the first time it scared the bejonkers out or me. Hope this helped.

Sunny 51 PF '09, Lupus/Sjogrens/ Arthritis/ Asthma '04, Barrett's Disease '08, Hyperthyroid '08, CAN '09, Hiatal Hernia '09, Idaho

I have noticed that there are a number of people on this forum who have Sjogren's Syndrome, as do I. My rheumy told me to use Biotin toothpaste and Biotin mouthwash, as well as Optiva (for the dry eyes). Lately, I have been waking several times during the night, because my mouth feels like the Sahara, and I need to sip some water before I can go back to sleep. This morning, as a little test, I tried to stick a tissue to my tongue (I know - a little wierd). There was absolutely NO saliva at all. I'm wondering if anyone on the forum has a similar problem, and if anyone has successfully tried some other treatment for dry mouth, and if so what it is. B

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