Re: Supplementing Vit D

[Guest guest]

In frequent-dose-chelation Joanne wrote:

I haven't heard much about supplementing with D relative to chelation,

but based on some recent tests my doctor recommended it.

------------------It is something people should be checked for, because many

are low, and it is a test that even mainstream doctors will usually do. The

reference ranges from standard labs are quite wide, as with most/all tests, so

low normal is still probably low. I was low and have been supplementing at

fairly high levels for quite awhile to raise it. I'm at 63 now, and I was told

70-80 was optimal. It's not one of the *biggies* when it comes to chelation,

but any imbalance should try to be corrected and can only help make you feel

better.---------Jackie

I know I was

told years back that I have trouble with A, E, D & K.

-----------Those are all fat soluble vitamins, so I wonder what's up with

that? Do you have trouble digesting fats?----------Jackie

Since mineral absorption/utilization is a problem, is it advised to

supplement Calcium, Vit D, K, or Calcium D Glucarate or other things?

-----------I guess I'm not sure exactly what you're asking. Are you saying

that you have a mineral absorption/utilization problem, and are wondering if

taking the above things will help that? Or are you worried about osteoporosis

and bone loss, and are wondering if you should take those to prevent it? If

you're taking calcium for your bones, then you also need to take magnesium also,

along with Vit D and K, and I think boron helps too, to actually get it into

your bones.---------Jackie

Are there specific forms that are recommended?

------------Calcium citrate is better absorbed than calcium carbonate, and

also avoid oyster shell calcium, dolomite, and bone meal products. Other

chelate forms or a combination of these are good also, such as malate,

succcinate, aspartate,etc.----Jackie

Does calcium

supplementation become more important for those of us who cannot eat

dairy?

-----------It can be, but it is in alot of other foods, that you may not

realize. It is in a variety of green leafy vegetables and lettuce, broccoli,

some seeds and nuts, tofu, olives, figs, raisins, etc. etc. But if you do

supplement it, you must remember that you need magnesium too, and many people

are low in that too.---------Jackie

I'd like to think I can be building stronger bones and teeth (at least

what's left of them, LOL!), but don't want to bother with supplements

that will simply wash out of me anyway or could cause another type of

trouble.

------------If you're talking about an absorption problem, then taking extra

stomach acid (Betaine HCl) and digestive enzymes can help.-------Jackie

Thanks,

Joanne

[Guest guest]

Hi Joanne,

Regarding vitamin D, if you are deficient, taking supps can help to

alleviate some symptoms. In my case, my 25hydroxyvitaminD level was

at 11, while optimum levels should be at least mid 50s. I'm

intolerant to most supps and finally found a non fish oil derived

vitamin D3 supp I could tolerate (Freeda). I had generalized

musculoskeletal pain, which made just moving a misery. Within 4-5

days of starting vitamin D at just 400iu, the pain started to

subside. Also, after 1 year on the D my bone mineral density had

increased. If you are looking for more detailed vitamin D info try

the website for The Vitamin D Council. It's great. Just this week a

mainstream physician on a national TV program mentioned that the

majority of people in this country are deficient in D and should be

taking 1000iu per day or getting at least 10 minutes of sun exposure

(covering hands and face) per day.

Sometimes it is hit or miss with tolerating supplements. I have to

take A, D, and E. My blood levels of beta carotene were well above

the reference range while A levels were below the reference range.

Many of us have problems with conversion and find it necessary to

take A. As with D, the only supp I could find that I tolerate is a

cold water soluble A from Pharmax LLC which had minimal ingredients.

Without the A, my gut falls apart and I don't tolerate anything

including food. Pharmax, LLC has a number of supps which are cold

water soluble and are recommended for those who have IBD, IBS, or

other digestive/absorption probs.

If you can find supps you tolerate, it might worth the effort. For

me, treating outright deficiencies very modestly has made my life a

little less miserable. According to Andy, I will continue to need

supps until I am sufficiently chelated.

Gladioli

>

> I haven't heard much about supplementing with D relative to

chelation,

> but based on some recent tests my doctor recommended it. I know I

was

> told years back that I have trouble with A, E, D & K.

>

> Since mineral absorption/utilization is a problem, is it advised to

> supplement Calcium, Vit D, K, or Calcium D Glucarate or other

things?

> Are there specific forms that are recommended? Does calcium

> supplementation become more important for those of us who cannot

eat

> dairy?

>

> I'd like to think I can be building stronger bones and teeth (at

least

> what's left of them, LOL!), but don't want to bother with

supplements

> that will simply wash out of me anyway or could cause another type

of

> trouble.

>

> Thanks,

> Joanne

>