Guest guest Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 I am going to make my own capsules and the source I buy from sells Milk Thistle Leaf Cut, Milk Thistle Seed Powder and Milk Thistle Whole seed. Which one should I order? Yesterday I finished my fourth round of 25 mg DMSA and felt pretty spacey. Previous rounds I was okay. Have been taking all the supplements Andy suggested, except the milk thistle. Does anyone think that adding the milk thistle will make a difference? I have lead poisoning and chelated with EDTA IV's for a year. The lead levels have gone up and down and up and down and from what I understand Andy to say, lead takes years to clear from the body because it is stored in the bone. If anyone has any suggestions, please pass them along. Next month I will be 69. Thanks, . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 I buy bulk ground organic milk thistle seed from Mountain Rose Herb Company and make my own capsules. With this milk thistle, we brought back from the nearly-dead a llama that had been poisoned by a plant in the azalea family. While the poisoning took place in August and the animal recovered at that time, it wasn't until the following February that the llama suddenly showed symptoms of being sick. Testing was done which showed he had very bad marks on his liver panel. The vet felt death was eminent. We began giving the llama about 1 Tablespoon of the ground milk thistle seed orally twice a day. (Not easy with a big animal that had quit eating!) This was done faithfully for four months without missing a dose. At the end of the four months another liver panel showed normal function. The animal was gaining weight and eating on his own. Another llama that was poisoned at the same time did not receive the milk thistle treatments and died. I believe milk thistle truly has restorative effect on the liver. I take it as part of my supplement regimen for chelation. However, it has not made a difference with regard to my mercury/lead recirculation symptoms. I want to address the lead issue and will do that in a separate posting. > > I am going to make my own capsules and the source I buy from sells Milk Thistle Leaf Cut, Milk Thistle Seed Powder and Milk Thistle Whole seed. Which one should I order? > > Yesterday I finished my fourth round of 25 mg DMSA and felt pretty spacey. Previous rounds I was okay. Have been taking all the supplements Andy suggested, except the milk thistle. > Does anyone think that adding the milk thistle will make a difference? > > I have lead poisoning and chelated with EDTA IV's for a year. The lead levels have gone up and down and up and down and from what I understand Andy to say, lead takes years to clear from the body because it is stored in the bone. > > If anyone has any suggestions, please pass them along. Next month I will be 69. > > Thanks, > > > > > . > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 I buy bulk ground organic milk thistle seed from Mountain Rose Herb Company and make my own capsules. With this milk thistle, we brought back from the nearly-dead a llama that had been poisoned by a plant in the azalea family. While the poisoning took place in August and the animal recovered at that time, it wasn't until the following February that the llama suddenly showed symptoms of being sick. Testing was done which showed he had very bad marks on his liver panel. The vet felt death was eminent. We began giving the llama about 1 Tablespoon of the ground milk thistle seed orally twice a day. (Not easy with a big animal that had quit eating!) This was done faithfully for four months without missing a dose. At the end of the four months another liver panel showed normal function. The animal was gaining weight and eating on his own. Another llama that was poisoned at the same time did not receive the milk thistle treatments and died. I believe milk thistle truly has restorative effect on the liver. I take it as part of my supplement regimen for chelation. However, it has not made a difference with regard to my mercury/lead recirculation symptoms. I want to address the lead issue and will do that in a separate posting. > > I am going to make my own capsules and the source I buy from sells Milk Thistle Leaf Cut, Milk Thistle Seed Powder and Milk Thistle Whole seed. Which one should I order? > > Yesterday I finished my fourth round of 25 mg DMSA and felt pretty spacey. Previous rounds I was okay. Have been taking all the supplements Andy suggested, except the milk thistle. > Does anyone think that adding the milk thistle will make a difference? > > I have lead poisoning and chelated with EDTA IV's for a year. The lead levels have gone up and down and up and down and from what I understand Andy to say, lead takes years to clear from the body because it is stored in the bone. > > If anyone has any suggestions, please pass them along. Next month I will be 69. > > Thanks, > > > > > . > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 I buy bulk ground organic milk thistle seed from Mountain Rose Herb Company and make my own capsules. With this milk thistle, we brought back from the nearly-dead a llama that had been poisoned by a plant in the azalea family. While the poisoning took place in August and the animal recovered at that time, it wasn't until the following February that the llama suddenly showed symptoms of being sick. Testing was done which showed he had very bad marks on his liver panel. The vet felt death was eminent. We began giving the llama about 1 Tablespoon of the ground milk thistle seed orally twice a day. (Not easy with a big animal that had quit eating!) This was done faithfully for four months without missing a dose. At the end of the four months another liver panel showed normal function. The animal was gaining weight and eating on his own. Another llama that was poisoned at the same time did not receive the milk thistle treatments and died. I believe milk thistle truly has restorative effect on the liver. I take it as part of my supplement regimen for chelation. However, it has not made a difference with regard to my mercury/lead recirculation symptoms. I want to address the lead issue and will do that in a separate posting. > > I am going to make my own capsules and the source I buy from sells Milk Thistle Leaf Cut, Milk Thistle Seed Powder and Milk Thistle Whole seed. Which one should I order? > > Yesterday I finished my fourth round of 25 mg DMSA and felt pretty spacey. Previous rounds I was okay. Have been taking all the supplements Andy suggested, except the milk thistle. > Does anyone think that adding the milk thistle will make a difference? > > I have lead poisoning and chelated with EDTA IV's for a year. The lead levels have gone up and down and up and down and from what I understand Andy to say, lead takes years to clear from the body because it is stored in the bone. > > If anyone has any suggestions, please pass them along. Next month I will be 69. > > Thanks, > > > > > . > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 Brain dead! Ignore my last line, where I asked if she was using DMSA, duh, she mentioned it earlier in the post! How's that for bad short term memory?-----------Jackie In frequent-dose-chelation Jackie wrote: In frequent-dose-chelation Pratt wrote: I am going to make my own capsules and the source I buy from sells Milk Thistle Leaf Cut, Milk Thistle Seed Powder and Milk Thistle Whole seed. Which one should I order? ----------The active ingredient that helps the liver in milk thistle is silymarin. I have an herb book that says the highest concentration is in the fruit, but it is also found in the seeds and leaves. My bottle of Silymarin Extract capsules has *seed* in parentheses. And thinking about it, I'm not sure how big the leaf cut would be, or the whole seed, they might not fit in a capsule. So the powder might be the way to go for putting into capsules. Can you contact the supplier and ask questions?----Jackie Yesterday I finished my fourth round of 25 mg DMSA and felt pretty spacey. Previous rounds I was okay. Have been taking all the supplements Andy suggested, except the milk thistle. Does anyone think that adding the milk thistle will make a difference? ------------Not sure if it will or not, that is always a guessing game, the supplements. I can't guarantee you that it will help with that particular side effect, but milk thistle is one that is highly recommended for liver support, which is important for us toxic folks. It is one of the most potent liver-protecting substances known. I would bet it is one thing that Andy still takes on a regular basis.--------Jackie I have lead poisoning and chelated with EDTA IV's for a year. The lead levels have gone up and down and up and down and from what I understand Andy to say, lead takes years to clear from the body because it is stored in the bone. ------------The up and down and up and down that you are seeing is because the chelation cleared the lead from your bloodstream, and then more seeped out of your bones back into your bloodstream, raising your levels again. And that's how lead chelation works. It slowly comes out of the bones, and you just keep repeating this cycle with rounds of chelation. Andy says that DMSA is better for chelating lead, than EDTA, so I hope that's what you plan on using.----------Jackie If anyone has any suggestions, please pass them along. Next month I will be 69. Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 Wow, llamabb, this is quite a testament to the positive effect of milk thistle. I have it here (I heard it was good for something, but by the time I got it, forgot what!), but still haven't taken it. It will be on my list of " must haves " : Donna >>>llamabb wrote: We began giving the llama about 1 Tablespoon of the ground milk >thistle seed orally twice a day. (Not easy with a big animal that had >quit eating!) This was done faithfully for four months without >missing a dose. At the end of the four months another liver panel >showed normal function. The animal was gaining weight and eating on >his own. Another llama that was poisoned at the same time did not >receive the milk thistle treatments and died. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 Wow, llamabb, this is quite a testament to the positive effect of milk thistle. I have it here (I heard it was good for something, but by the time I got it, forgot what!), but still haven't taken it. It will be on my list of " must haves " : Donna >>>llamabb wrote: We began giving the llama about 1 Tablespoon of the ground milk >thistle seed orally twice a day. (Not easy with a big animal that had >quit eating!) This was done faithfully for four months without >missing a dose. At the end of the four months another liver panel >showed normal function. The animal was gaining weight and eating on >his own. Another llama that was poisoned at the same time did not >receive the milk thistle treatments and died. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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