Re: Re:How To Make Liver Work Better?

[Guest guest]

In frequent-dose-chelation wrote:

>

> i keep reading about this NAC (and, as mentioned, haven't received my

> book due to a shipping address mistake on my part) so... i want to

> make sure that this is something that is okay to try

NAC is a powerful antioxidant. That part is ok. Mercury does damage

through oxidation and we all need lots of antioxidants. Vitamin C is

another antioxidant, and we usually take as much vit C as we can tolerate.

NAC also contains the amino acid cysteine, which is a sulfur

containing amino acid. It has only one sulfur group, so drags mercury

around weakly, not chelating or helping to remove it. The dragging

around of mercury will make toxic people sicker.

Some people can tolerate NAC - the ones who have LOW PLASMA CYSTEINE.

With low plasma cysteine there is less collisions with mercury and

the cysteine that comes in quickly becomes incorporated in needed

molecules. The people who have high plasma cysteine (possibly because

mercury has blocked some enzyme pathways) will find that any new

cysteine added will have a high collision frequency with mercury, drag

it around weakly and they will feel worse.

and, if so, why

> are injections of glutathione so bad?

Glutathione is not a chelator. A chelator has two sulfur groups so

that it can hold mercury tight enough to remove it from the body.

Glutathione has one sulfur group so drags mercury around weakly making

people sicker. When small amounts of glutathione are made at one

time, that made can be quickly utilized in the body. With glutathione

injections a large quantity of glutathione goes in all at once, much

more than the body can deal with at once, and the chance of an adverse

reaction is high. You will find some reports in archives from people

who had adverse reactions to glutathione IVs. The more toxic/frail

the harder these inappropriate interventions are on people.

------------ explained all this great, but I will just add, that just

like it took the third DMPS/EDTA IV injection to cause a severe reaction in you,

the same thing could happen with the glutathione. They might go fine for

awhile, and then BAM. So not worth risking another bad reaction,

IMO.----------Jackie

J

i was getting them until

> recently...

> ~robin

>

[Guest guest]

In frequent-dose-chelation wrote:

>

> i keep reading about this NAC (and, as mentioned, haven't received my

> book due to a shipping address mistake on my part) so... i want to

> make sure that this is something that is okay to try

NAC is a powerful antioxidant. That part is ok. Mercury does damage

through oxidation and we all need lots of antioxidants. Vitamin C is

another antioxidant, and we usually take as much vit C as we can tolerate.

NAC also contains the amino acid cysteine, which is a sulfur

containing amino acid. It has only one sulfur group, so drags mercury

around weakly, not chelating or helping to remove it. The dragging

around of mercury will make toxic people sicker.

Some people can tolerate NAC - the ones who have LOW PLASMA CYSTEINE.

With low plasma cysteine there is less collisions with mercury and

the cysteine that comes in quickly becomes incorporated in needed

molecules. The people who have high plasma cysteine (possibly because

mercury has blocked some enzyme pathways) will find that any new

cysteine added will have a high collision frequency with mercury, drag

it around weakly and they will feel worse.

and, if so, why

> are injections of glutathione so bad?

Glutathione is not a chelator. A chelator has two sulfur groups so

that it can hold mercury tight enough to remove it from the body.

Glutathione has one sulfur group so drags mercury around weakly making

people sicker. When small amounts of glutathione are made at one

time, that made can be quickly utilized in the body. With glutathione

injections a large quantity of glutathione goes in all at once, much

more than the body can deal with at once, and the chance of an adverse

reaction is high. You will find some reports in archives from people

who had adverse reactions to glutathione IVs. The more toxic/frail

the harder these inappropriate interventions are on people.

------------ explained all this great, but I will just add, that just

like it took the third DMPS/EDTA IV injection to cause a severe reaction in you,

the same thing could happen with the glutathione. They might go fine for

awhile, and then BAM. So not worth risking another bad reaction,

IMO.----------Jackie

J

i was getting them until

> recently...

> ~robin

>

[Guest guest]

In frequent-dose-chelation yankeeexile wrote:

--- In frequent-dose-chelation , " Joanne "

> I'm commenting on this because after feeling confused about my liver

> function, based on rereading & trialing supplements on and off for a

> year, I had the Comprehensive Liver Detox Profile done in November.

>

Joanne,

Where did you have the test done? Did you need a doctor's order?

What kind of sample was it?

----------Not Joanne, but I had the test done a couple years ago. Back then

the company was called Great Smokies, it is now Genova. I was seeing a DO that

used Great Smokies lab, and *I* requested this test. It was a take home test

kit, so you do part of it at home, but then I think it required a blood draw the

next morning. Here's the link to the test information, it says saliva, urine,

and fasting blood draw.

http://www.gdx.net/home/assessments/detox/

You cannot order the test directly from Genova (Great Smokies). You either

need a doctor or it looks like you can order it from Direct Labs. It was listed

under the *order page* as Comprehensive Detox Profile (GS) for $243, but I think

I would call and make sure this is the right one.

http://www.directlabs.com/

Hopefully Joanne can add something, since she did this recently.--------Jackie

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

In frequent-dose-chelation yankeeexile wrote:

--- In frequent-dose-chelation , " Joanne "

> I'm commenting on this because after feeling confused about my liver

> function, based on rereading & trialing supplements on and off for a

> year, I had the Comprehensive Liver Detox Profile done in November.

>

Joanne,

Where did you have the test done? Did you need a doctor's order?

What kind of sample was it?

----------Not Joanne, but I had the test done a couple years ago. Back then

the company was called Great Smokies, it is now Genova. I was seeing a DO that

used Great Smokies lab, and *I* requested this test. It was a take home test

kit, so you do part of it at home, but then I think it required a blood draw the

next morning. Here's the link to the test information, it says saliva, urine,

and fasting blood draw.

http://www.gdx.net/home/assessments/detox/

You cannot order the test directly from Genova (Great Smokies). You either

need a doctor or it looks like you can order it from Direct Labs. It was listed

under the *order page* as Comprehensive Detox Profile (GS) for $243, but I think

I would call and make sure this is the right one.

http://www.directlabs.com/

Hopefully Joanne can add something, since she did this recently.--------Jackie

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Joanne, did you order the test through your doctor or Direct Labs?-------Jackie

In frequent-dose-chelation Joanne wrote:

I had the Comprehensive Liver Detox Profile from Genova (yes, f/k/a

Great Smokies). If it's a help, maybe I or someone who truly knows

how could white out names & scan a test result into the 'files'

section. That way a sample would be available that could be copied

and shown to doctors so they can understand what you're asking for.

Joanne

> Joanne,

>

> Where did you have the test done? Did you need a doctor's order?

> What kind of sample was it?

>

> ----------Not Joanne, but I had the test done a couple years

ago. Back then the company was called Great Smokies, it is now

Genova. I was seeing a DO that used Great Smokies lab, and *I*

requested this test. It was a take home test kit, so you do part of

it at home, but then I think it required a blood draw the next

morning. Here's the link to the test information, it says saliva,

urine, and fasting blood draw.

>

> http://www.gdx.net/home/assessments/detox/

>

> You cannot order the test directly from Genova (Great Smokies).

You either need a doctor or it looks like you can order it from

Direct Labs. It was listed under the *order page* as Comprehensive

Detox Profile (GS) for $243, but I think I would call and make sure

this is the right one.

>

> http://www.directlabs.com/

>

> Hopefully Joanne can add something, since she did this recently.-

-------Jackie

>

[Guest guest]

I once saw Majid Ali, a great alternative doc in New York, and he told me

that the nicest thing you can do for your liver is to take a scoop (2

tablespoons) of lecithin every day. So I mix it in with my oatmeal every

morning.

I don't know if he's right or wrong, but it doesn't seem like it can hurt.

Ali has a website with lots of interesting info, www.majidali.com

From what I've read - the most amazing supplement that can restore even

livers badly damaged from drugs or toxic mushrooms is - yes - none other

than alpha-lipoic acid.

Dean