Re: - Could you answer a Cysteine/sulfate question?

[Guest guest]

After reading a recent message on this topic I am confused. My report

states that my cysteine level is normal, but my sulfate is low. Does

this mean I have a high cysteine ratio? And should I be able to

tolerate sulfur foods etc... or not. My ND gave me NAC, and MSM.

Should I or should I not supplement sulfur? thanks, Sidney

[Guest guest]

After reading a recent message on this topic I am confused. My report

states that my cysteine level is normal, but my sulfate is low. Does

this mean I have a high cysteine ratio? And should I be able to

tolerate sulfur foods etc... or not. My ND gave me NAC, and MSM.

Should I or should I not supplement sulfur? thanks, Sidney

[Guest guest]

After reading a recent message on this topic I am confused. My report

states that my cysteine level is normal, but my sulfate is low. Does

this mean I have a high cysteine ratio? And should I be able to

tolerate sulfur foods etc... or not. My ND gave me NAC, and MSM.

Should I or should I not supplement sulfur? thanks, Sidney

[Guest guest]

>

> After reading a recent message on this topic I am confused. My report

> states that my cysteine level is normal, but my sulfate is low.

If your test was done recently you can't make conclusions from the

cysteine part of the test. Not long ago Great Smokies stopped doing

plasma cysteine and are doing something else instead (can't remember

exactly, Andy posted about it when the change was made).

With a low sulfate you would probably want to supplement in some form

- Mg sulfate (epsom salts) is one easy way. You can bathe in it or

take small quantities in food.

Does

> this mean I have a high cysteine ratio? And should I be able to

> tolerate sulfur foods etc... or not.

You would need to determine if you can tolerate sulfur foods and

supplements with exclusion and challenge.

> My ND gave me NAC, and MSM.

> Should I or should I not supplement sulfur?

Only way to know is to try them and see what happens.

J

thanks, Sidney

>

[Guest guest]

>

> After reading a recent message on this topic I am confused. My report

> states that my cysteine level is normal, but my sulfate is low.

If your test was done recently you can't make conclusions from the

cysteine part of the test. Not long ago Great Smokies stopped doing

plasma cysteine and are doing something else instead (can't remember

exactly, Andy posted about it when the change was made).

With a low sulfate you would probably want to supplement in some form

- Mg sulfate (epsom salts) is one easy way. You can bathe in it or

take small quantities in food.

Does

> this mean I have a high cysteine ratio? And should I be able to

> tolerate sulfur foods etc... or not.

You would need to determine if you can tolerate sulfur foods and

supplements with exclusion and challenge.

> My ND gave me NAC, and MSM.

> Should I or should I not supplement sulfur?

Only way to know is to try them and see what happens.

J

thanks, Sidney

>

[Guest guest]

In frequent-dose-chelation s.rickel wrote:

After reading a recent message on this topic I am confused. My report

states that my cysteine level is normal, but my sulfate is low.

----------Not , but I thought you could no longer get *plasma* cysteine

and sulfate tested? When and where did you have the test, and is it plasma, or

serum or something else?

Otherwise, I was tested a couple years ago, and I was normal cysteine and low

sulfate. Here's a link to an old post by Andy about what to do for each

combination of these two. http://onibasu.com/archives/am/57707.html

For normal cysteine and low sulfate, basically you should supplement with

molybdenum, supplement sulfate orally, transdermally, and/or by epsom salt bath,

(and sulfate needs to go in as sulfate), and Andy says it is not appropriate to

take things like cysteine, msm, or whey, and that thiol intake (meaning sulfur

foods) should be moderate, neither high or low. You will be case number 2 on

Andy's post, so follow those suggestions.---------Jackie

Does

this mean I have a high cysteine ratio? And should I be able to

tolerate sulfur foods etc... or not.

----------You will probably be able to tolerate some sulfur foods, but not too

much. Although some people do best to limit them. I eat some sulfur foods,

without a problem. Trial and error is your best test.---------Jackie

My ND gave me NAC, and MSM.

-----------I don't think Andy ever recommends MSM (going by memory on that

one), and I believe he says to try NAC if you are low cysteine and/or low

glutathione and/or have MCS. So you could try the NAC and see how it makes you

feel, but you may not tolerate it or feel worse on it.-----------Jackie

Should I or should I not supplement sulfur?

-----------Supplementing *sulfate* is different than taking or eating sulfury

things. Since you are low sulfate, you should take epsom salt baths, and could

also use magnesium sulfate cream and/or take glucosamine sulfate supplements.

Taking other sulfury supplements and eating sulfury foods in excess probably

won't be good for you.---------Jackie

thanks, Sidney

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In frequent-dose-chelation s.rickel wrote:

After reading a recent message on this topic I am confused. My report

states that my cysteine level is normal, but my sulfate is low.

----------Not , but I thought you could no longer get *plasma* cysteine

and sulfate tested? When and where did you have the test, and is it plasma, or

serum or something else?

Otherwise, I was tested a couple years ago, and I was normal cysteine and low

sulfate. Here's a link to an old post by Andy about what to do for each

combination of these two. http://onibasu.com/archives/am/57707.html

For normal cysteine and low sulfate, basically you should supplement with

molybdenum, supplement sulfate orally, transdermally, and/or by epsom salt bath,

(and sulfate needs to go in as sulfate), and Andy says it is not appropriate to

take things like cysteine, msm, or whey, and that thiol intake (meaning sulfur

foods) should be moderate, neither high or low. You will be case number 2 on

Andy's post, so follow those suggestions.---------Jackie

Does

this mean I have a high cysteine ratio? And should I be able to

tolerate sulfur foods etc... or not.

----------You will probably be able to tolerate some sulfur foods, but not too

much. Although some people do best to limit them. I eat some sulfur foods,

without a problem. Trial and error is your best test.---------Jackie

My ND gave me NAC, and MSM.

-----------I don't think Andy ever recommends MSM (going by memory on that

one), and I believe he says to try NAC if you are low cysteine and/or low

glutathione and/or have MCS. So you could try the NAC and see how it makes you

feel, but you may not tolerate it or feel worse on it.-----------Jackie

Should I or should I not supplement sulfur?

-----------Supplementing *sulfate* is different than taking or eating sulfury

things. Since you are low sulfate, you should take epsom salt baths, and could

also use magnesium sulfate cream and/or take glucosamine sulfate supplements.

Taking other sulfury supplements and eating sulfury foods in excess probably

won't be good for you.---------Jackie

thanks, Sidney

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>

> And should I be able to

> tolerate sulfur foods etc... or not. My ND gave me NAC, and MSM.

> Should I or should I not supplement sulfur?

FWIW, I do better with a lot of sulfur foods but MSM makes me feel *terrible.

Nell

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>

> And should I be able to

> tolerate sulfur foods etc... or not. My ND gave me NAC, and MSM.

> Should I or should I not supplement sulfur?

FWIW, I do better with a lot of sulfur foods but MSM makes me feel *terrible.

Nell

[Guest guest]

>

> And should I be able to

> tolerate sulfur foods etc... or not. My ND gave me NAC, and MSM.

> Should I or should I not supplement sulfur?

FWIW, I do better with a lot of sulfur foods but MSM makes me feel *terrible.

Nell

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The Genova Comprehensive Liver Detox Profile is giving both cysteine &

sulfate levels right now (at least I got that information on a test

done in late November).

Joanne

After reading a recent message on this topic I am confused. My report

> states that my cysteine level is normal, but my sulfate is low.

>

> ----------Not , but I thought you could no longer get

*plasma* cysteine and sulfate tested? When and where did you have the

test, and is it plasma, or serum or something else?

>

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>

> The Genova Comprehensive Liver Detox Profile is giving both cysteine &

> sulfate levels right now

According to Andy the cysteine that they are testing now is not a

useful test, and is not the same as what they were testing previously.

J

(at least I got that information on a test

> done in late November).

>

> Joanne

>

> After reading a recent message on this topic I am confused. My report

> > states that my cysteine level is normal, but my sulfate is low.

> >

> > ----------Not , but I thought you could no longer get

> *plasma* cysteine and sulfate tested? When and where did you have the

> test, and is it plasma, or serum or something else?

> >

>