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Larry

Well Spoken!!! The worst thing we can do and I think it was done alot

in the old days was shut out the children like they wouldn't understand

or were too young to need to know when a parent or loved one was ill.

the BEST thing we can do is include them and let them know how much

their help is needed even it is just to keep mom or dad or whoever

company now and then. Thanks for sharing these wonderful words of

wisdom with us. God Bless your family and hugs Jolene

Larry Green wrote:

> Dear Ingrid,

> When Janet was diagnosed with cc she wanted life to stay the same and

> wanted everything to be as normal as possible. We have two children

> and they are 10 and sixteen years old. My thinking was that would had

> been nice but it was going to be impossible for things to be normal

> and stay the same because I knew that that was not the way it was

> going to work.

> You don't plan to get sick. And when a love one is sick there are

> sacrifices that must be made so the one that is ill can get better.

> I believe it is called responsibility.

> The kids have to pull in and help, the kids have to help and you need

> to let go and put yourself on hold and get yourself in a mental and

> physical situation that will help you heal.

> We helprd Janet as a family and even though Janet felt bad about not

> getting our daughter to swimming or there was a party she missed,

> Lizzie didn't seem to mine and she enjoyed being around and helping

> mom. Nate at sixteen was not a big help and I think he didn't miss out

> on too much.

> In your case Ingrid I know it is a little different. You live on a

> farm and It seems you do not have a lot of friends or family coming by

> to help or offer support.

> This illness I know will NOT last forever and you need the " Time OUT "

> to heal yourself and family needs to let you rest and heal.

> You have my permission.

> Your son is young, there is a lot ahead for him and having his mom

> there is the most important thing now and getting you back on your

> feet will take some sacrifices. Part of growing up is dealing with

> illness.

> This is only a little setback for you, in time this will be just a bad

> memory.

> It has been a few weeks since Janet has had her CT Scan and " NED'.

> Lizzie is in Camp for two weeks and I am teaching Nate how to drive

> and he is running around with his girlfreind.....life goes on.

> Larry

>

>

> Ingrid Lowe lowenco@...> wrote:

> Thanks Marty. Yes, He likes being there for me. But often see my son

> wanting to do some fun things too with his friends. I let him go

> often. But sometimes I have to say no since I need his help so much.

> I am getting a little better and stronger each day. But still need so

> much from my son. He helps me with all the critters we have and often

> has to do my chores and errands. Yes, I know it will make a better

> person of him. Just am terrified that I have passed the gene on to

> him and he will need to keep himself checked for colon cancer

> starting in his twenties. I love my son to peices and only want the

> best for him. Ingrid

>

>

>

>

>

> > >> > I have alot of evasive doctors. None seem to want to make a

> > >> statement of any kind.

> > >> > One told me it could take a year, one told me I'd be this way

> the

> > >> rest of my life, however long that may be (wasn't that just sweet

> > > of

> > >> him?). My local doctor is the most supportive. I see him again

> next

> > >> Wednesday. So far we haven't tried much of anything except

> > > exercise,

> > >> trying to get some muscle mass back again in my legs.

> > >> > He now has my records, so I think it is time to get started on

> > >> figuring something out.

> > >> >

> > >> > I am sorry if I sounded snippy in my reply to you earlier, I

> sure

> > >> didn't mean it that way. I just get so dishearted. The last

> thing a

> > >> cancer survivor wants to hear is that something is going to take

> > >> time. time is precious. I want to use it NOW....not wait!!! Good

> > >> grief:)

> > >> >

> > >> > Believe it or not, something that does seem to " stick " are eggs

> > >> over easy. Figure that one out???? As a matter of fact, I'm

> getting

> > >> ready to fix two right now. My days and nights are mixed up

> again.

> > > So

> > >> I may as well go ahead and eat breakfast!hahaha

> > >> >

> > >> > nancy

> > >> > Re: aaarrrggghhhhh

> > >> >

> > >> >

> > >> > What does you doc say ?

> > >> >

> > >> > I don't take Immodium everyday but I will take it in the

> > > morning

> > >> if this continues. I have lomotil but I know that is addictive

> so

> > > I

> > >> don't like to take it. How about the metamucil wafers??

> > >> >

> > >> > I have really learned I cannot eat anything after 8:00 PM.

> If

> > > I

> > >> get to starving, I eat dry toast.

> > >> >

> > >> > Stay in touch.

> > >> >

> > >> > Karima

> > >> >

> > >> >

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My name is Lorri, My husband was told he had colon cancer the begginning of

June. It spread to the liver and a few spots in a abdomon. They said it was to

late for surgery and he had a year or less to life. He went in for a coloascapy

and thats how they discovered the spot on his colon . Then they did a pet scan

and biopcy. He is getting his 3rd treatment of chemo Tuesday the Aug. 2nd.He

hasn't had any side effects yet from the chemo. Thank God! He is feeling fine.It

is just hard to know he only has a year or less to live.I am praying the chemo

will shrink the tumors and gives him a few more years. We have seven kids. A

blended family.4 girls and 3 boys. We took the news pretty hard at first. Now a

month later we are relying on prayer to give us our streigth. Father's day was

rough. They just put my husband on disability at work. He can't work due to

safty reasons. My boss just told me he was letting me go cause I have been

missing to much work due to my husband needing me.so I

will be job hunting next week. The kids start school next week too. Help! Hope

to hear from someone. Lorri Newsome

Jolene Ehret jehret@...> wrote:

Larry

Well Spoken!!! The worst thing we can do and I think it was done alot

in the old days was shut out the children like they wouldn't understand

or were too young to need to know when a parent or loved one was ill.

the BEST thing we can do is include them and let them know how much

their help is needed even it is just to keep mom or dad or whoever

company now and then. Thanks for sharing these wonderful words of

wisdom with us. God Bless your family and hugs Jolene

Larry Green wrote:

> Dear Ingrid,

> When Janet was diagnosed with cc she wanted life to stay the same and

> wanted everything to be as normal as possible. We have two children

> and they are 10 and sixteen years old. My thinking was that would had

> been nice but it was going to be impossible for things to be normal

> and stay the same because I knew that that was not the way it was

> going to work.

> You don't plan to get sick. And when a love one is sick there are

> sacrifices that must be made so the one that is ill can get better.

> I believe it is called responsibility.

> The kids have to pull in and help, the kids have to help and you need

> to let go and put yourself on hold and get yourself in a mental and

> physical situation that will help you heal.

> We helprd Janet as a family and even though Janet felt bad about not

> getting our daughter to swimming or there was a party she missed,

> Lizzie didn't seem to mine and she enjoyed being around and helping

> mom. Nate at sixteen was not a big help and I think he didn't miss out

> on too much.

> In your case Ingrid I know it is a little different. You live on a

> farm and It seems you do not have a lot of friends or family coming by

> to help or offer support.

> This illness I know will NOT last forever and you need the " Time OUT "

> to heal yourself and family needs to let you rest and heal.

> You have my permission.

> Your son is young, there is a lot ahead for him and having his mom

> there is the most important thing now and getting you back on your

> feet will take some sacrifices. Part of growing up is dealing with

> illness.

> This is only a little setback for you, in time this will be just a bad

> memory.

> It has been a few weeks since Janet has had her CT Scan and " NED'.

> Lizzie is in Camp for two weeks and I am teaching Nate how to drive

> and he is running around with his girlfreind.....life goes on.

> Larry

>

>

> Ingrid Lowe lowenco@...> wrote:

> Thanks Marty. Yes, He likes being there for me. But often see my son

> wanting to do some fun things too with his friends. I let him go

> often. But sometimes I have to say no since I need his help so much.

> I am getting a little better and stronger each day. But still need so

> much from my son. He helps me with all the critters we have and often

> has to do my chores and errands. Yes, I know it will make a better

> person of him. Just am terrified that I have passed the gene on to

> him and he will need to keep himself checked for colon cancer

> starting in his twenties. I love my son to peices and only want the

> best for him. Ingrid

>

>

>

>

>

> > >> > I have alot of evasive doctors. None seem to want to make a

> > >> statement of any kind.

> > >> > One told me it could take a year, one told me I'd be this way

> the

> > >> rest of my life, however long that may be (wasn't that just sweet

> > > of

> > >> him?). My local doctor is the most supportive. I see him again

> next

> > >> Wednesday. So far we haven't tried much of anything except

> > > exercise,

> > >> trying to get some muscle mass back again in my legs.

> > >> > He now has my records, so I think it is time to get started on

> > >> figuring something out.

> > >> >

> > >> > I am sorry if I sounded snippy in my reply to you earlier, I

> sure

> > >> didn't mean it that way. I just get so dishearted. The last

> thing a

> > >> cancer survivor wants to hear is that something is going to take

> > >> time. time is precious. I want to use it NOW....not wait!!! Good

> > >> grief:)

> > >> >

> > >> > Believe it or not, something that does seem to " stick " are eggs

> > >> over easy. Figure that one out???? As a matter of fact, I'm

> getting

> > >> ready to fix two right now. My days and nights are mixed up

> again.

> > > So

> > >> I may as well go ahead and eat breakfast!hahaha

> > >> >

> > >> > nancy

> > >> > Re: aaarrrggghhhhh

> > >> >

> > >> >

> > >> > What does you doc say ?

> > >> >

> > >> > I don't take Immodium everyday but I will take it in the

> > > morning

> > >> if this continues. I have lomotil but I know that is addictive

> so

> > > I

> > >> don't like to take it. How about the metamucil wafers??

> > >> >

> > >> > I have really learned I cannot eat anything after 8:00 PM.

> If

> > > I

> > >> get to starving, I eat dry toast.

> > >> >

> > >> > Stay in touch.

> > >> >

> > >> > Karima

> > >> >

> > >> >

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Hi Lorri, Welcome to our group. Sorry for the reasons you all have to

be here but in this case it is a good place to be with lots of caring

folks..

Sorry that the doc gave your husband a deadline... that is a big no no

here. We don't give up and we have plenty of members here who are LIVING

proof of that.

Whether it can be cured or not is sometimes not the question but what

chemo treatment is next.

Oh what a lovely family you have... I hope you have more than one

bathroom. Even with five kids like we had that was a challenge. LOL...

Sorry that they had to let you go at your job. Good luck with job

hunting. You will hear from plenty of us... Some with more advice than

I have to give.

If you look at the yahoo group site, in the Files section is a file

entitled Our Story, and inside are several stories including mine

(Jolene)...

I was diagnosed as being Stage 3c, with lymph node involvement, CEA 3.5.

My ONC recommended 6 months of chemo which I just finished.

Went through it reasonably well, did have low wbc so had to give myself

neupogen shots, and low Potassium and had to take 20 mg of it twice a day.

Finally quit taking that... So now I am done, I hope, and just waiting

on report of scan taken two weeks ago. Wheels of military beauracy move

way slowly.. LOL I am doctoring at Fort Hood, texas, my ONC is in San

. So until he gets the report and then decides to call me. I am

not worrying about it.

I want to do some job hunting too, probably next week. Hopeing to get on

at Copperas Cove school district as a lunch room clerk. Or at least do

some subbing until an opening may come up, though not really worried

about a permanent position. Just need to make some extra money - my

bills are over whelming me.

Not even the medical that caused it, being a military dependent they

covered it all. Thank the LORd for that. What got me in trouble is my

idle hands which or who decided they needed something to do so went back

to crafting and spending money I should not have. Oh well so it goes...

Anyway we are glad to have you here inspite of the reason. You, your

husband and the family will be remembered in my prayers. Miracles Do

Happen!!!!

Take care Jolene

Lorri newsome wrote:

> My name is Lorri, My husband

> was told he had colon cancer the begginning of June. It spread to the

> liver and a few spots in a abdomon. They said it was to late for

> surgery and he had a year or less to life. He went in for a coloascapy

> and thats how they discovered the spot on his colon . Then they did a

> pet scan and biopcy. He is getting his 3rd treatment of chemo Tuesday

> the Aug. 2nd.He hasn't had any side effects yet from the chemo. Thank

> God! He is feeling fine.It is just hard to know he only has a year or

> less to live.I am praying the chemo will shrink the tumors and gives

> him a few more years. We have seven kids. A blended family.4 girls and

> 3 boys. We took the news pretty hard at first. Now a month later we

> are relying on prayer to give us our streigth. Father's day was rough.

> They just put my husband on disability at work. He can't work due to

> safty reasons. My boss just told me he was letting me go cause I have

> been missing to much work due to my husband needing me.so I< will be

> job hunting next week. The kids start school next week too. Help! Hope

> to hear from someone. Lorri Newsome

>

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Thank YOU Larry!!!! By the way, when you guys come for a visit and I

work with your kids with the horses, would you work with my son and

show him how to drive??? I know he is only thirteen but he can learn

some now. I am terrified with the idea of showing him how to drive. I

guess I do not have the nerves of giving a heavy vehicle over into

his hands and then I have no control to stop the car. Are you not

nervous with the idea that Nate will soon be handling such a big

vehichle and going places that you have no control of??? Ingrid

> > >> > I have alot of evasive doctors. None seem to want to make a

> > >> statement of any kind.

> > >> > One told me it could take a year, one told me I'd be this

way

> the

> > >> rest of my life, however long that may be (wasn't that just

sweet

> > > of

> > >> him?). My local doctor is the most supportive. I see him again

> next

> > >> Wednesday. So far we haven't tried much of anything except

> > > exercise,

> > >> trying to get some muscle mass back again in my legs.

> > >> > He now has my records, so I think it is time to get started

on

> > >> figuring something out.

> > >> >

> > >> > I am sorry if I sounded snippy in my reply to you earlier, I

> sure

> > >> didn't mean it that way. I just get so dishearted. The last

> thing a

> > >> cancer survivor wants to hear is that something is going to

take

> > >> time. time is precious. I want to use it NOW....not wait!!!

Good

> > >> grief:)

> > >> >

> > >> > Believe it or not, something that does seem to " stick " are

eggs

> > >> over easy. Figure that one out???? As a matter of fact, I'm

> getting

> > >> ready to fix two right now. My days and nights are mixed up

> again.

> > > So

> > >> I may as well go ahead and eat breakfast!hahaha

> > >> >

> > >> > nancy

> > >> > Re: aaarrrggghhhhh

> > >> >

> > >> >

> > >> > What does you doc say ?

> > >> >

> > >> > I don't take Immodium everyday but I will take it in the

> > > morning

> > >> if this continues. I have lomotil but I know that is addictive

> so

> > > I

> > >> don't like to take it. How about the metamucil wafers??

> > >> >

> > >> > I have really learned I cannot eat anything after 8:00 PM.

> If

> > > I

> > >> get to starving, I eat dry toast.

> > >> >

> > >> > Stay in touch.

> > >> >

> > >> > Karima

> > >> >

> > >> >

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Lorri, there is always hope!!! Never give up on hope. There are

others here who will let you know also that they were given a short

time to live. And then they are still here. Chemo can do things to

help shrink the tumors. Doctors do not know everything!!! There have

been others where the tumors shrunk enough and were able to do

surgery and remove it. And now they are cancer free. There is always

hope!!! And Prayer to get you through this. So do not always beleive

the doctors!! They do not know!!!! Do not ever give up. Miricles do

happen all the time!!! I am Praying for and for you!!! Ingrid

> > > >> > I have alot of evasive doctors. None seem to want to make a

> > > >> statement of any kind.

> > > >> > One told me it could take a year, one told me I'd be this

way

> > the

> > > >> rest of my life, however long that may be (wasn't that just

sweet

> > > > of

> > > >> him?). My local doctor is the most supportive. I see him

again

> > next

> > > >> Wednesday. So far we haven't tried much of anything except

> > > > exercise,

> > > >> trying to get some muscle mass back again in my legs.

> > > >> > He now has my records, so I think it is time to get

started on

> > > >> figuring something out.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > I am sorry if I sounded snippy in my reply to you earlier,

I

> > sure

> > > >> didn't mean it that way. I just get so dishearted. The last

> > thing a

> > > >> cancer survivor wants to hear is that something is going to

take

> > > >> time. time is precious. I want to use it NOW....not wait!!!

Good

> > > >> grief:)

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Believe it or not, something that does seem to " stick " are

eggs

> > > >> over easy. Figure that one out???? As a matter of fact, I'm

> > getting

> > > >> ready to fix two right now. My days and nights are mixed up

> > again.

> > > > So

> > > >> I may as well go ahead and eat breakfast!hahaha

> > > >> >

> > > >> > nancy

> > > >> > Re: aaarrrggghhhhh

> > > >> >

> > > >> >

> > > >> > What does you doc say ?

> > > >> >

> > > >> > I don't take Immodium everyday but I will take it in the

> > > > morning

> > > >> if this continues. I have lomotil but I know that is

addictive

> > so

> > > > I

> > > >> don't like to take it. How about the metamucil wafers??

> > > >> >

> > > >> > I have really learned I cannot eat anything after 8:00 PM.

> > If

> > > > I

> > > >> get to starving, I eat dry toast.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Stay in touch.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Karima

> > > >> >

> > > >> >

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Lorri, Oh my!!!! It must be terrible to be going through this!!! I

know that most kids get into an accident at least once. This has got

to be nerve wrecking for sure. Bet you will be Praying a lot while

those kids are behind the wheel!!! Ingrid

> > > >> > I have alot of evasive doctors. None seem to want to make a

> > > >> statement of any kind.

> > > >> > One told me it could take a year, one told me I'd be this

> way

> > the

> > > >> rest of my life, however long that may be (wasn't that just

> sweet

> > > > of

> > > >> him?). My local doctor is the most supportive. I see him

again

> > next

> > > >> Wednesday. So far we haven't tried much of anything except

> > > > exercise,

> > > >> trying to get some muscle mass back again in my legs.

> > > >> > He now has my records, so I think it is time to get

started

> on

> > > >> figuring something out.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > I am sorry if I sounded snippy in my reply to you earlier,

I

> > sure

> > > >> didn't mean it that way. I just get so dishearted. The last

> > thing a

> > > >> cancer survivor wants to hear is that something is going to

> take

> > > >> time. time is precious. I want to use it NOW....not wait!!!

> Good

> > > >> grief:)

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Believe it or not, something that does seem to " stick " are

> eggs

> > > >> over easy. Figure that one out???? As a matter of fact, I'm

> > getting

> > > >> ready to fix two right now. My days and nights are mixed up

> > again.

> > > > So

> > > >> I may as well go ahead and eat breakfast!hahaha

> > > >> >

> > > >> > nancy

> > > >> > Re: aaarrrggghhhhh

> > > >> >

> > > >> >

> > > >> > What does you doc say ?

> > > >> >

> > > >> > I don't take Immodium everyday but I will take it in the

> > > > morning

> > > >> if this continues. I have lomotil but I know that is

addictive

> > so

> > > > I

> > > >> don't like to take it. How about the metamucil wafers??

> > > >> >

> > > >> > I have really learned I cannot eat anything after 8:00 PM.

> > If

> > > > I

> > > >> get to starving, I eat dry toast.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Stay in touch.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Karima

> > > >> >

> > > >> >

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Lorri, Oh my!!!! It must be terrible to be going through this!!! I

know that most kids get into an accident at least once. This has got

to be nerve wrecking for sure. Bet you will be Praying a lot while

those kids are behind the wheel!!! Ingrid

> > > >> > I have alot of evasive doctors. None seem to want to make a

> > > >> statement of any kind.

> > > >> > One told me it could take a year, one told me I'd be this

> way

> > the

> > > >> rest of my life, however long that may be (wasn't that just

> sweet

> > > > of

> > > >> him?). My local doctor is the most supportive. I see him

again

> > next

> > > >> Wednesday. So far we haven't tried much of anything except

> > > > exercise,

> > > >> trying to get some muscle mass back again in my legs.

> > > >> > He now has my records, so I think it is time to get

started

> on

> > > >> figuring something out.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > I am sorry if I sounded snippy in my reply to you earlier,

I

> > sure

> > > >> didn't mean it that way. I just get so dishearted. The last

> > thing a

> > > >> cancer survivor wants to hear is that something is going to

> take

> > > >> time. time is precious. I want to use it NOW....not wait!!!

> Good

> > > >> grief:)

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Believe it or not, something that does seem to " stick " are

> eggs

> > > >> over easy. Figure that one out???? As a matter of fact, I'm

> > getting

> > > >> ready to fix two right now. My days and nights are mixed up

> > again.

> > > > So

> > > >> I may as well go ahead and eat breakfast!hahaha

> > > >> >

> > > >> > nancy

> > > >> > Re: aaarrrggghhhhh

> > > >> >

> > > >> >

> > > >> > What does you doc say ?

> > > >> >

> > > >> > I don't take Immodium everyday but I will take it in the

> > > > morning

> > > >> if this continues. I have lomotil but I know that is

addictive

> > so

> > > > I

> > > >> don't like to take it. How about the metamucil wafers??

> > > >> >

> > > >> > I have really learned I cannot eat anything after 8:00 PM.

> > If

> > > > I

> > > >> get to starving, I eat dry toast.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Stay in touch.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Karima

> > > >> >

> > > >> >

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Karima, I live in Indiana. I think you will be moving away further.

Ingrid

> > > >> > I have alot of evasive doctors. None seem to want to

make a

> > > >> statement of any kind.

> > > >> > One told me it could take a year, one told me I'd be

this

> way

> > the

> > > >> rest of my life, however long that may be (wasn't that

just

> sweet

> > > > of

> > > >> him?). My local doctor is the most supportive. I see him

again

> > next

> > > >> Wednesday. So far we haven't tried much of anything except

> > > > exercise,

> > > >> trying to get some muscle mass back again in my legs.

> > > >> > He now has my records, so I think it is time to get

started

> on

> > > >> figuring something out.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > I am sorry if I sounded snippy in my reply to you

earlier, I

> > sure

> > > >> didn't mean it that way. I just get so dishearted. The

last

> > thing a

> > > >> cancer survivor wants to hear is that something is going

to

> take

> > > >> time. time is precious. I want to use it NOW....not

wait!!!

> Good

> > > >> grief:)

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Believe it or not, something that does seem to " stick "

are

> eggs

> > > >> over easy. Figure that one out???? As a matter of fact,

I'm

> > getting

> > > >> ready to fix two right now. My days and nights are mixed

up

> > again.

> > > > So

> > > >> I may as well go ahead and eat breakfast!hahaha

> > > >> >

> > > >> > nancy

> > > >> > Re: aaarrrggghhhhh

> > > >> >

> > > >> >

> > > >> > What does you doc say ?

> > > >> >

> > > >> > I don't take Immodium everyday but I will take it in the

> > > > morning

> > > >> if this continues. I have lomotil but I know that is

addictive

> > so

> > > > I

> > > >> don't like to take it. How about the metamucil wafers??

> > > >> >

> > > >> > I have really learned I cannot eat anything after 8:00

PM.

> > If

> > > > I

> > > >> get to starving, I eat dry toast.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Stay in touch.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Karima

> > > >> >

> > > >> >

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Karima, I live in Indiana. I think you will be moving away further.

Ingrid

> > > >> > I have alot of evasive doctors. None seem to want to

make a

> > > >> statement of any kind.

> > > >> > One told me it could take a year, one told me I'd be

this

> way

> > the

> > > >> rest of my life, however long that may be (wasn't that

just

> sweet

> > > > of

> > > >> him?). My local doctor is the most supportive. I see him

again

> > next

> > > >> Wednesday. So far we haven't tried much of anything except

> > > > exercise,

> > > >> trying to get some muscle mass back again in my legs.

> > > >> > He now has my records, so I think it is time to get

started

> on

> > > >> figuring something out.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > I am sorry if I sounded snippy in my reply to you

earlier, I

> > sure

> > > >> didn't mean it that way. I just get so dishearted. The

last

> > thing a

> > > >> cancer survivor wants to hear is that something is going

to

> take

> > > >> time. time is precious. I want to use it NOW....not

wait!!!

> Good

> > > >> grief:)

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Believe it or not, something that does seem to " stick "

are

> eggs

> > > >> over easy. Figure that one out???? As a matter of fact,

I'm

> > getting

> > > >> ready to fix two right now. My days and nights are mixed

up

> > again.

> > > > So

> > > >> I may as well go ahead and eat breakfast!hahaha

> > > >> >

> > > >> > nancy

> > > >> > Re: aaarrrggghhhhh

> > > >> >

> > > >> >

> > > >> > What does you doc say ?

> > > >> >

> > > >> > I don't take Immodium everyday but I will take it in the

> > > > morning

> > > >> if this continues. I have lomotil but I know that is

addictive

> > so

> > > > I

> > > >> don't like to take it. How about the metamucil wafers??

> > > >> >

> > > >> > I have really learned I cannot eat anything after 8:00

PM.

> > If

> > > > I

> > > >> get to starving, I eat dry toast.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Stay in touch.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Karima

> > > >> >

> > > >> >

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Karima, I live in Indiana. I think you will be moving away further.

Ingrid

> > > >> > I have alot of evasive doctors. None seem to want to

make a

> > > >> statement of any kind.

> > > >> > One told me it could take a year, one told me I'd be

this

> way

> > the

> > > >> rest of my life, however long that may be (wasn't that

just

> sweet

> > > > of

> > > >> him?). My local doctor is the most supportive. I see him

again

> > next

> > > >> Wednesday. So far we haven't tried much of anything except

> > > > exercise,

> > > >> trying to get some muscle mass back again in my legs.

> > > >> > He now has my records, so I think it is time to get

started

> on

> > > >> figuring something out.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > I am sorry if I sounded snippy in my reply to you

earlier, I

> > sure

> > > >> didn't mean it that way. I just get so dishearted. The

last

> > thing a

> > > >> cancer survivor wants to hear is that something is going

to

> take

> > > >> time. time is precious. I want to use it NOW....not

wait!!!

> Good

> > > >> grief:)

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Believe it or not, something that does seem to " stick "

are

> eggs

> > > >> over easy. Figure that one out???? As a matter of fact,

I'm

> > getting

> > > >> ready to fix two right now. My days and nights are mixed

up

> > again.

> > > > So

> > > >> I may as well go ahead and eat breakfast!hahaha

> > > >> >

> > > >> > nancy

> > > >> > Re: aaarrrggghhhhh

> > > >> >

> > > >> >

> > > >> > What does you doc say ?

> > > >> >

> > > >> > I don't take Immodium everyday but I will take it in the

> > > > morning

> > > >> if this continues. I have lomotil but I know that is

addictive

> > so

> > > > I

> > > >> don't like to take it. How about the metamucil wafers??

> > > >> >

> > > >> > I have really learned I cannot eat anything after 8:00

PM.

> > If

> > > > I

> > > >> get to starving, I eat dry toast.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Stay in touch.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Karima

> > > >> >

> > > >> >

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How does one deal with being in the passenger seat while your child has

the steering wheel and brakes in his control?? Scary!!! Very scary!!!

Ingrid

> My son Dan is 18 and an excellent driver but he has to take and pass

the

> test. Ride around with them even if you are not teaching them. It is

scary at

> first but you get over it

> Narice

>

>

>

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How does one deal with being in the passenger seat while your child has

the steering wheel and brakes in his control?? Scary!!! Very scary!!!

Ingrid

> My son Dan is 18 and an excellent driver but he has to take and pass

the

> test. Ride around with them even if you are not teaching them. It is

scary at

> first but you get over it

> Narice

>

>

>

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How does one deal with being in the passenger seat while your child has

the steering wheel and brakes in his control?? Scary!!! Very scary!!!

Ingrid

> My son Dan is 18 and an excellent driver but he has to take and pass

the

> test. Ride around with them even if you are not teaching them. It is

scary at

> first but you get over it

> Narice

>

>

>

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Larry, You are a brave, brave man!!! Are you ready to teach my son

next??? Ingrid

> My son Dan is 18 and an excellent driver but he has to take and

pass the

> test. Ride around with them even if you are not teaching them. It

is scary at

> first but you get over it

> Narice

>

>

>

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Larry, You are a brave, brave man!!! Are you ready to teach my son

next??? Ingrid

> My son Dan is 18 and an excellent driver but he has to take and

pass the

> test. Ride around with them even if you are not teaching them. It

is scary at

> first but you get over it

> Narice

>

>

>

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Larry, You are a brave, brave man!!! Are you ready to teach my son

next??? Ingrid

> My son Dan is 18 and an excellent driver but he has to take and

pass the

> test. Ride around with them even if you are not teaching them. It

is scary at

> first but you get over it

> Narice

>

>

>

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Nonnie, Around here the farm kids do drive at 13 and younger. They

drive tractors and trucks. Alot of kids drive their parents trucks in

the hay fields while the parents load the hay. I know that I often

wished we had a driver while we load hay from out of the field.

Driving and getting out of the truck every few feet to load hay gets

old fast. Of course I think loading and unloading hay gets real, REAL

OLD FAST!!!LOL Ingrid

> > > >> > I have alot of evasive doctors. None seem to want to make a

> > > >> statement of any kind.

> > > >> > One told me it could take a year, one told me I'd be this

> way

> > the

> > > >> rest of my life, however long that may be (wasn't that just

> sweet

> > > > of

> > > >> him?). My local doctor is the most supportive. I see him

again

> > next

> > > >> Wednesday. So far we haven't tried much of anything except

> > > > exercise,

> > > >> trying to get some muscle mass back again in my legs.

> > > >> > He now has my records, so I think it is time to get

started

> on

> > > >> figuring something out.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > I am sorry if I sounded snippy in my reply to you earlier,

I

> > sure

> > > >> didn't mean it that way. I just get so dishearted. The last

> > thing a

> > > >> cancer survivor wants to hear is that something is going to

> take

> > > >> time. time is precious. I want to use it NOW....not wait!!!

> Good

> > > >> grief:)

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Believe it or not, something that does seem to " stick " are

> eggs

> > > >> over easy. Figure that one out???? As a matter of fact, I'm

> > getting

> > > >> ready to fix two right now. My days and nights are mixed up

> > again.

> > > > So

> > > >> I may as well go ahead and eat breakfast!hahaha

> > > >> >

> > > >> > nancy

> > > >> > Re: aaarrrggghhhhh

> > > >> >

> > > >> >

> > > >> > What does you doc say ?

> > > >> >

> > > >> > I don't take Immodium everyday but I will take it in the

> > > > morning

> > > >> if this continues. I have lomotil but I know that is

addictive

> > so

> > > > I

> > > >> don't like to take it. How about the metamucil wafers??

> > > >> >

> > > >> > I have really learned I cannot eat anything after 8:00 PM.

> > If

> > > > I

> > > >> get to starving, I eat dry toast.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Stay in touch.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Karima

> > > >> >

> > > >> >

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Nonnie, Around here the farm kids do drive at 13 and younger. They

drive tractors and trucks. Alot of kids drive their parents trucks in

the hay fields while the parents load the hay. I know that I often

wished we had a driver while we load hay from out of the field.

Driving and getting out of the truck every few feet to load hay gets

old fast. Of course I think loading and unloading hay gets real, REAL

OLD FAST!!!LOL Ingrid

> > > >> > I have alot of evasive doctors. None seem to want to make a

> > > >> statement of any kind.

> > > >> > One told me it could take a year, one told me I'd be this

> way

> > the

> > > >> rest of my life, however long that may be (wasn't that just

> sweet

> > > > of

> > > >> him?). My local doctor is the most supportive. I see him

again

> > next

> > > >> Wednesday. So far we haven't tried much of anything except

> > > > exercise,

> > > >> trying to get some muscle mass back again in my legs.

> > > >> > He now has my records, so I think it is time to get

started

> on

> > > >> figuring something out.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > I am sorry if I sounded snippy in my reply to you earlier,

I

> > sure

> > > >> didn't mean it that way. I just get so dishearted. The last

> > thing a

> > > >> cancer survivor wants to hear is that something is going to

> take

> > > >> time. time is precious. I want to use it NOW....not wait!!!

> Good

> > > >> grief:)

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Believe it or not, something that does seem to " stick " are

> eggs

> > > >> over easy. Figure that one out???? As a matter of fact, I'm

> > getting

> > > >> ready to fix two right now. My days and nights are mixed up

> > again.

> > > > So

> > > >> I may as well go ahead and eat breakfast!hahaha

> > > >> >

> > > >> > nancy

> > > >> > Re: aaarrrggghhhhh

> > > >> >

> > > >> >

> > > >> > What does you doc say ?

> > > >> >

> > > >> > I don't take Immodium everyday but I will take it in the

> > > > morning

> > > >> if this continues. I have lomotil but I know that is

addictive

> > so

> > > > I

> > > >> don't like to take it. How about the metamucil wafers??

> > > >> >

> > > >> > I have really learned I cannot eat anything after 8:00 PM.

> > If

> > > > I

> > > >> get to starving, I eat dry toast.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Stay in touch.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Karima

> > > >> >

> > > >> >

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Nonnie, Around here the farm kids do drive at 13 and younger. They

drive tractors and trucks. Alot of kids drive their parents trucks in

the hay fields while the parents load the hay. I know that I often

wished we had a driver while we load hay from out of the field.

Driving and getting out of the truck every few feet to load hay gets

old fast. Of course I think loading and unloading hay gets real, REAL

OLD FAST!!!LOL Ingrid

> > > >> > I have alot of evasive doctors. None seem to want to make a

> > > >> statement of any kind.

> > > >> > One told me it could take a year, one told me I'd be this

> way

> > the

> > > >> rest of my life, however long that may be (wasn't that just

> sweet

> > > > of

> > > >> him?). My local doctor is the most supportive. I see him

again

> > next

> > > >> Wednesday. So far we haven't tried much of anything except

> > > > exercise,

> > > >> trying to get some muscle mass back again in my legs.

> > > >> > He now has my records, so I think it is time to get

started

> on

> > > >> figuring something out.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > I am sorry if I sounded snippy in my reply to you earlier,

I

> > sure

> > > >> didn't mean it that way. I just get so dishearted. The last

> > thing a

> > > >> cancer survivor wants to hear is that something is going to

> take

> > > >> time. time is precious. I want to use it NOW....not wait!!!

> Good

> > > >> grief:)

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Believe it or not, something that does seem to " stick " are

> eggs

> > > >> over easy. Figure that one out???? As a matter of fact, I'm

> > getting

> > > >> ready to fix two right now. My days and nights are mixed up

> > again.

> > > > So

> > > >> I may as well go ahead and eat breakfast!hahaha

> > > >> >

> > > >> > nancy

> > > >> > Re: aaarrrggghhhhh

> > > >> >

> > > >> >

> > > >> > What does you doc say ?

> > > >> >

> > > >> > I don't take Immodium everyday but I will take it in the

> > > > morning

> > > >> if this continues. I have lomotil but I know that is

addictive

> > so

> > > > I

> > > >> don't like to take it. How about the metamucil wafers??

> > > >> >

> > > >> > I have really learned I cannot eat anything after 8:00 PM.

> > If

> > > > I

> > > >> get to starving, I eat dry toast.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Stay in touch.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Karima

> > > >> >

> > > >> >

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Yep, It will be your screeming, not mine!!!! Dan huh? I bet he

will be a little green after he gets done with his lessons. And of

course you may need to have electric shock to get your hearts pumping

again.LOL Ingrid

> > My son Dan is 18 and an excellent driver but he has to take and

> pass the

> > test. Ride around with them even if you are not teaching them. It

> is scary at

> > first but you get over it

> > Narice

> >

> >

> >

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Yep, It will be your screeming, not mine!!!! Dan huh? I bet he

will be a little green after he gets done with his lessons. And of

course you may need to have electric shock to get your hearts pumping

again.LOL Ingrid

> > My son Dan is 18 and an excellent driver but he has to take and

> pass the

> > test. Ride around with them even if you are not teaching them. It

> is scary at

> > first but you get over it

> > Narice

> >

> >

> >

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Donelle, Yes you are so right. At some point we have to learn to

trust God to take care of our children. I have learned to let go some

slowly but surely. I trust my son to some extent. He goes into town

with his bike. I let him ride up to the river and go fishing. Took me

awhile to let him do that since the Wabash River is very big and

deep. We have Indiana's largest waterfall right here in town. I let

him ride into town and go to the waterfall. The kids like to climb

down and get under it. I do let go and allow him to go. Town is about

a mile and half from where we live. I tell him what time he needs to

be back. Yesterday he was an hour late. I fretted over this but did

not go after him. Just punished him when he got back. So I have

learned to trust him some. Here in this small town I feel safe to let

him go. When we lived in Oklahoma two years ago I did not feel it was

as safe. But here all the neighbors like to snitch if they see

something the kids should not be doing. Everyone here likes to be in

everyone elses business. Good some ways and not good other ways.

But hey, we don't ever lock our doors. Of course I have five big

dogs in the house. LOL Not to mention my pet wolf out in back.

Someone would be nuts to come in the house when we were not home. But

at least my son can always get into the house without having to give

him a key or hide one outside. So if I go to store or whatever and my

son is out I don't have to worry about him getting back in. Enough

rambling for now. Ingrid

>

> In a message dated 7/27/2005 12:40:30 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> lowenco@h... writes:

>

> Thank YOU Larry!!!! By the way, when you guys come for a visit and

I

> work with your kids with the horses, would you work with my son

and

> show him how to drive??? I know he is only thirteen but he can

learn

> some now. I am terrified with the idea of showing him how to

drive. I

> guess I do not have the nerves of giving a heavy vehicle over into

> his hands and then I have no control to stop the car. Are you not

> nervous with the idea that Nate will soon be handling such a big

> vehichle and going places that you have no control of??? Ingrid

>

>

>

>

> Ingrid....our little worry-wart Mommy!!!

>

> Seriously, this is a very nerve-wracking time...when children are

old enough

> to learn to drive. They do need a very good teacher...and if

you'll be too

> nervous, then it's a good idea to get Driver's Ed. Training. They

use to

> have it in the schools here, but now we have to pay for it. But,

it's worth it

> to know they've been taught all they need to know for all the

different

> circumstances they might find themselves in.

>

> Ingrid, once again, we have very little control....once they are

> knowledgeable enough, we just have to let go...and pray!!!

>

> Lots of hugs and prayers, Donelle

> Caregiver to Glenn

>

>

>

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Dianna, I could let him learn to drive here in the pasture. But would

feel better that he learned in my husbands car first. I drive a

dually truck. And they are harder to drive. They do not have a very

good turning. It takes a big spot to turn one around since they

cannot turn in small spots. I think I will do that once my ribs feel

better. I would just love for him to feel special that he is learning

to drive a car. Yes, Each day we have together is precious. So you

are right. Now is the time to spend with our loved ones.

Your son is looking down at you and knows that you love him

dearly. He was so precious to you and he knows that. It is sad to

know that so many children out there never know that kind of love.

Yes, your jason was so lucky to have you for his mom. Ingrid

> > My son Dan is 18 and an excellent driver but he has to take and

pass

> the

> > test. Ride around with them even if you are not teaching them. It

is

> scary at

> > first but you get over it

> > Narice

> >

> >

> >

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Dianna, I could let him learn to drive here in the pasture. But would

feel better that he learned in my husbands car first. I drive a

dually truck. And they are harder to drive. They do not have a very

good turning. It takes a big spot to turn one around since they

cannot turn in small spots. I think I will do that once my ribs feel

better. I would just love for him to feel special that he is learning

to drive a car. Yes, Each day we have together is precious. So you

are right. Now is the time to spend with our loved ones.

Your son is looking down at you and knows that you love him

dearly. He was so precious to you and he knows that. It is sad to

know that so many children out there never know that kind of love.

Yes, your jason was so lucky to have you for his mom. Ingrid

> > My son Dan is 18 and an excellent driver but he has to take and

pass

> the

> > test. Ride around with them even if you are not teaching them. It

is

> scary at

> > first but you get over it

> > Narice

> >

> >

> >

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Donelle,, Yeppers I used to raise wolves when we lived in Oklahoma.

They are hybreds. The one I have is 96% wolf. I stopped raising

litters and selling them once I decided that people wanted them for

the wrong reasons. They do not make good pets. They are mostly one

owner animals. And if you must have one you must keep it for its

life. They do not do good with being given up to new owners. They are

very inteligent animals and very difficult to contain. It made me

sick when people wanted to own one thinking it was macho. These

animals are anything but macho. For the most part they are very timid

and do not like to be around strangers. My wolf loves kids but is

terrified of strange adults. I love her dearly but would not recomend

one as a pet. They take a lot of special care and commitment. Ingrid

> Wow, Ingrid...I'm putting you on my list of " places to

visit " ...would love

> to see the River and the waterfalls. I bet it's beautiful.

>

> I can't even imagine there are still places in this world where

you can

> actually leave your doors unlocked....that is just so awesome!!!

When I was

> young, we never locked our doors...not even at night. That was

the Stone Age,

> tho....LOL

>

> I'd say, in my humble opinion, you are right on target with the

amount of

> trust you have in your son. With each new responsibility he is

given (IF he

> comes home on time...LOL) he will grow and mature at the rate he's

suppose to

> with his loving parents guidance... Did you say a pet " wolf " ????

>

> Lots of hugs and prayers, Donelle

> Caregiver to Glenn

>

>

>

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