Re: thoughts on diet and fatigue?

[Guest guest]

>

> I'm feeling really frustrated and hoping some of you can help me

sort some stuff out.

> Quick recap: I've done about 65 rounds of ALA, or DMSA + ALA. Hair

tests meet counting

> rules. I take the basic chelation supps plus Armour and Cortef. I've

had some good months

> where I can do yoga daily, walk, be functional (if functional is

having very low demands on

> me).

Wow 65 rounds! How long have you been chelating? 2-3 years ?

Maybe there are other metals that are too high in your body?

>

> Inevitably though I crash, sometimes triggered by something like

playing a game of

> kickball with my kids (and I was not sprinting or anything!),

sometimes I don't know what

> the trigger is. It doesn't take much.

Well this can be adrenal fatigue. It can also be hypoglycemia.

>

> I tested borderline for gluten and positive for casein antibodies,

and at first going GFCF

> seemed to help with energy a lot as well as get rid of zigzagging

diarrhea/constipation.

> But then, while GFCF and taking enzymes, I had a bout of diarrhea

and once that resolved

> it hasn't felt like being GFCF is doing much for me. I'm in France

until July, and I admit that

> being GFCF in the world capital of bread and cheese is really really

hard, and if I'm feeling

> exhausted while doing it, my motivation drains away. I've tried

eating minimal amounts

> with plenty of enzymes, I've tried being very strict -- still have

symptoms, or not, with no

> consistency.

>

> I have the suspicion that no diet is fix me up as long as I'm

dragging metals though my

> gut every week or so -- or am I rationalizing? Does it sound like I

might have other food

> intolerances I need to figure out? Besides Cortef, what have people

found helpful for

> fatigue and exercise intolerance? Have people found that their food

intolerances went

> away after enough chelation (the way I think they did for my son)? I

think I've found

> someone who does muscle testing so I'll give that a whirl.

How long have you had these gut issues. Could it be that you have

celiac disease? Have you ever done a Trans glutaminase test?

If you have celiac disease, enzymes will do nothing. It is an auto-

immune disease. Maybe celiac disease can be cured by chelation, but

I doubt it.

When you have celiac disease, 10 mg gluten can cause damage. So not

eating foods that contain gluten is not enough. You have to make sure

there is absolutely no gluten in the food you eat.

>

> I have a feeling you're going to say that the big picture answer is

more chelation. I'm just

> feeling like, yeah, we know it's a marathon and all, but where is

the light at the end of the

> tunnel? Chelation has made a real difference for me -- my brain

works better, I'm much

> more socially motivated -- but I would really like to hear someone

say they had this

> debilitating fatigue and got over it for good. Or at least for more

than a few months. And

> as long as I'm wishing, I'd like the recovery not to require

lifelong diet restrictions for G

> and C.

>

> Nell

>

Well Nell I have done 8 rounds of only ALA(as chelator). I was doing

SCD diet for over 2 years and I could never cheat on the diet. Now I

can eat yoghurt,chick peas, small amounts or rice. So my gut has

definitely improved.

Do you take pantothenic acid? It is good for fatigue and for the gut.

-Chelation with ALA

-Pantothenic acid

-yoghurt with good probiotics

-fully digestible diet

Have you tried the SCD diet?

Also for the fatigue, you can drink licorice tea. This recycles

your cortisol and I believe it increases renin.

To be honest I think that a very important thing in fatigue is

malabsorption of magnesium. As soon as the gut is working correctly

, you start absorbing magnesium, the relaxation returns. More energy,

better sleeping. Calcium goes to the bones again.

As long as the harmful metals are in the body/gut, the bad bacteria

keep surviving and digestion is impaired.

Hope this helps you.

Greetings,

Ali from the Netherlands

[Guest guest]

>

> I'm feeling really frustrated and hoping some of you can help me

sort some stuff out.

> Quick recap: I've done about 65 rounds of ALA, or DMSA + ALA. Hair

tests meet counting

> rules. I take the basic chelation supps plus Armour and Cortef. I've

had some good months

> where I can do yoga daily, walk, be functional (if functional is

having very low demands on

> me).

Wow 65 rounds! How long have you been chelating? 2-3 years ?

Maybe there are other metals that are too high in your body?

>

> Inevitably though I crash, sometimes triggered by something like

playing a game of

> kickball with my kids (and I was not sprinting or anything!),

sometimes I don't know what

> the trigger is. It doesn't take much.

Well this can be adrenal fatigue. It can also be hypoglycemia.

>

> I tested borderline for gluten and positive for casein antibodies,

and at first going GFCF

> seemed to help with energy a lot as well as get rid of zigzagging

diarrhea/constipation.

> But then, while GFCF and taking enzymes, I had a bout of diarrhea

and once that resolved

> it hasn't felt like being GFCF is doing much for me. I'm in France

until July, and I admit that

> being GFCF in the world capital of bread and cheese is really really

hard, and if I'm feeling

> exhausted while doing it, my motivation drains away. I've tried

eating minimal amounts

> with plenty of enzymes, I've tried being very strict -- still have

symptoms, or not, with no

> consistency.

>

> I have the suspicion that no diet is fix me up as long as I'm

dragging metals though my

> gut every week or so -- or am I rationalizing? Does it sound like I

might have other food

> intolerances I need to figure out? Besides Cortef, what have people

found helpful for

> fatigue and exercise intolerance? Have people found that their food

intolerances went

> away after enough chelation (the way I think they did for my son)? I

think I've found

> someone who does muscle testing so I'll give that a whirl.

How long have you had these gut issues. Could it be that you have

celiac disease? Have you ever done a Trans glutaminase test?

If you have celiac disease, enzymes will do nothing. It is an auto-

immune disease. Maybe celiac disease can be cured by chelation, but

I doubt it.

When you have celiac disease, 10 mg gluten can cause damage. So not

eating foods that contain gluten is not enough. You have to make sure

there is absolutely no gluten in the food you eat.

>

> I have a feeling you're going to say that the big picture answer is

more chelation. I'm just

> feeling like, yeah, we know it's a marathon and all, but where is

the light at the end of the

> tunnel? Chelation has made a real difference for me -- my brain

works better, I'm much

> more socially motivated -- but I would really like to hear someone

say they had this

> debilitating fatigue and got over it for good. Or at least for more

than a few months. And

> as long as I'm wishing, I'd like the recovery not to require

lifelong diet restrictions for G

> and C.

>

> Nell

>

Well Nell I have done 8 rounds of only ALA(as chelator). I was doing

SCD diet for over 2 years and I could never cheat on the diet. Now I

can eat yoghurt,chick peas, small amounts or rice. So my gut has

definitely improved.

Do you take pantothenic acid? It is good for fatigue and for the gut.

-Chelation with ALA

-Pantothenic acid

-yoghurt with good probiotics

-fully digestible diet

Have you tried the SCD diet?

Also for the fatigue, you can drink licorice tea. This recycles

your cortisol and I believe it increases renin.

To be honest I think that a very important thing in fatigue is

malabsorption of magnesium. As soon as the gut is working correctly

, you start absorbing magnesium, the relaxation returns. More energy,

better sleeping. Calcium goes to the bones again.

As long as the harmful metals are in the body/gut, the bad bacteria

keep surviving and digestion is impaired.

Hope this helps you.

Greetings,

Ali from the Netherlands

[Guest guest]

>

> I'm feeling really frustrated and hoping some of you can help me

sort some stuff out.

> Quick recap: I've done about 65 rounds of ALA, or DMSA + ALA. Hair

tests meet counting

> rules. I take the basic chelation supps plus Armour and Cortef. I've

had some good months

> where I can do yoga daily, walk, be functional (if functional is

having very low demands on

> me).

Wow 65 rounds! How long have you been chelating? 2-3 years ?

Maybe there are other metals that are too high in your body?

>

> Inevitably though I crash, sometimes triggered by something like

playing a game of

> kickball with my kids (and I was not sprinting or anything!),

sometimes I don't know what

> the trigger is. It doesn't take much.

Well this can be adrenal fatigue. It can also be hypoglycemia.

>

> I tested borderline for gluten and positive for casein antibodies,

and at first going GFCF

> seemed to help with energy a lot as well as get rid of zigzagging

diarrhea/constipation.

> But then, while GFCF and taking enzymes, I had a bout of diarrhea

and once that resolved

> it hasn't felt like being GFCF is doing much for me. I'm in France

until July, and I admit that

> being GFCF in the world capital of bread and cheese is really really

hard, and if I'm feeling

> exhausted while doing it, my motivation drains away. I've tried

eating minimal amounts

> with plenty of enzymes, I've tried being very strict -- still have

symptoms, or not, with no

> consistency.

>

> I have the suspicion that no diet is fix me up as long as I'm

dragging metals though my

> gut every week or so -- or am I rationalizing? Does it sound like I

might have other food

> intolerances I need to figure out? Besides Cortef, what have people

found helpful for

> fatigue and exercise intolerance? Have people found that their food

intolerances went

> away after enough chelation (the way I think they did for my son)? I

think I've found

> someone who does muscle testing so I'll give that a whirl.

How long have you had these gut issues. Could it be that you have

celiac disease? Have you ever done a Trans glutaminase test?

If you have celiac disease, enzymes will do nothing. It is an auto-

immune disease. Maybe celiac disease can be cured by chelation, but

I doubt it.

When you have celiac disease, 10 mg gluten can cause damage. So not

eating foods that contain gluten is not enough. You have to make sure

there is absolutely no gluten in the food you eat.

>

> I have a feeling you're going to say that the big picture answer is

more chelation. I'm just

> feeling like, yeah, we know it's a marathon and all, but where is

the light at the end of the

> tunnel? Chelation has made a real difference for me -- my brain

works better, I'm much

> more socially motivated -- but I would really like to hear someone

say they had this

> debilitating fatigue and got over it for good. Or at least for more

than a few months. And

> as long as I'm wishing, I'd like the recovery not to require

lifelong diet restrictions for G

> and C.

>

> Nell

>

Well Nell I have done 8 rounds of only ALA(as chelator). I was doing

SCD diet for over 2 years and I could never cheat on the diet. Now I

can eat yoghurt,chick peas, small amounts or rice. So my gut has

definitely improved.

Do you take pantothenic acid? It is good for fatigue and for the gut.

-Chelation with ALA

-Pantothenic acid

-yoghurt with good probiotics

-fully digestible diet

Have you tried the SCD diet?

Also for the fatigue, you can drink licorice tea. This recycles

your cortisol and I believe it increases renin.

To be honest I think that a very important thing in fatigue is

malabsorption of magnesium. As soon as the gut is working correctly

, you start absorbing magnesium, the relaxation returns. More energy,

better sleeping. Calcium goes to the bones again.

As long as the harmful metals are in the body/gut, the bad bacteria

keep surviving and digestion is impaired.

Hope this helps you.

Greetings,

Ali from the Netherlands

[Guest guest]

Nell, I relate to this completely, although I haven't chelated as

long as you have. The doctor who diagnosed my mercury toxicity also

told me I'd gone so many years with chronic accumulations, in a

hypothyroid state, that so much oxidative damage had occurred that

little could be done. He suggested the one thing I could do was get

the dental work done & chelate. Other than that, it's taking

supplements & trying to keep comfortable. I was 45. I choose to

believe that a fair amount of oxidative damage can be turned around.

One thing that has always helped my fatigue has been to focus on

foods that have a high, alkaline pH. Lots of greens & vegetables.

The problems I've had since starting this program, however, is that

green drinks (which I relied on to improve fatigue very quickly)

almost always contain chlorella. They also have sulfur foods.

Worse, I was relying on lots of broccoli, kale, etc., and came to

realize these were the foods causing so much gassiness.

Now I eat more meat, starchy vegetables, more supplements, and even

strong (85%) chocolate every day to try to compensate for the low

energy. I've started making sprouts, which helps. Though my body

weight is low, I feel like I'm lifting 2-3 times it's weight just to

get around. I exercise regularly & often feel best if I stay up &

keep moving. It's very, very frustrating. If you find some good

answers here, I need to hear them!

If there are green drinks that agree with you that don't have

chlorella and you do well with more green veggies & salads, perhaps

you'll find the subtle change in pH will give you a boost. This, of

course, does involve avoiding the extra fats, cheeses, &

breads/pastries you're surrounded with right now.

Joanne

>

> I'm feeling really frustrated and hoping some of you can help me

sort some stuff out.

.......

Chelation has made a real difference for me -- my brain works

better, I'm much

> more socially motivated -- but I would really like to hear someone

say they had this

> debilitating fatigue and got over it for good. Or at least for

more than a few months. And

> as long as I'm wishing, I'd like the recovery not to require

lifelong diet restrictions for G

> and C.

>

> Nell

>

[Guest guest]

Nell, I relate to this completely, although I haven't chelated as

long as you have. The doctor who diagnosed my mercury toxicity also

told me I'd gone so many years with chronic accumulations, in a

hypothyroid state, that so much oxidative damage had occurred that

little could be done. He suggested the one thing I could do was get

the dental work done & chelate. Other than that, it's taking

supplements & trying to keep comfortable. I was 45. I choose to

believe that a fair amount of oxidative damage can be turned around.

One thing that has always helped my fatigue has been to focus on

foods that have a high, alkaline pH. Lots of greens & vegetables.

The problems I've had since starting this program, however, is that

green drinks (which I relied on to improve fatigue very quickly)

almost always contain chlorella. They also have sulfur foods.

Worse, I was relying on lots of broccoli, kale, etc., and came to

realize these were the foods causing so much gassiness.

Now I eat more meat, starchy vegetables, more supplements, and even

strong (85%) chocolate every day to try to compensate for the low

energy. I've started making sprouts, which helps. Though my body

weight is low, I feel like I'm lifting 2-3 times it's weight just to

get around. I exercise regularly & often feel best if I stay up &

keep moving. It's very, very frustrating. If you find some good

answers here, I need to hear them!

If there are green drinks that agree with you that don't have

chlorella and you do well with more green veggies & salads, perhaps

you'll find the subtle change in pH will give you a boost. This, of

course, does involve avoiding the extra fats, cheeses, &

breads/pastries you're surrounded with right now.

Joanne

>

> I'm feeling really frustrated and hoping some of you can help me

sort some stuff out.

.......

Chelation has made a real difference for me -- my brain works

better, I'm much

> more socially motivated -- but I would really like to hear someone

say they had this

> debilitating fatigue and got over it for good. Or at least for

more than a few months. And

> as long as I'm wishing, I'd like the recovery not to require

lifelong diet restrictions for G

> and C.

>

> Nell

>

[Guest guest]

Nell, I relate to this completely, although I haven't chelated as

long as you have. The doctor who diagnosed my mercury toxicity also

told me I'd gone so many years with chronic accumulations, in a

hypothyroid state, that so much oxidative damage had occurred that

little could be done. He suggested the one thing I could do was get

the dental work done & chelate. Other than that, it's taking

supplements & trying to keep comfortable. I was 45. I choose to

believe that a fair amount of oxidative damage can be turned around.

One thing that has always helped my fatigue has been to focus on

foods that have a high, alkaline pH. Lots of greens & vegetables.

The problems I've had since starting this program, however, is that

green drinks (which I relied on to improve fatigue very quickly)

almost always contain chlorella. They also have sulfur foods.

Worse, I was relying on lots of broccoli, kale, etc., and came to

realize these were the foods causing so much gassiness.

Now I eat more meat, starchy vegetables, more supplements, and even

strong (85%) chocolate every day to try to compensate for the low

energy. I've started making sprouts, which helps. Though my body

weight is low, I feel like I'm lifting 2-3 times it's weight just to

get around. I exercise regularly & often feel best if I stay up &

keep moving. It's very, very frustrating. If you find some good

answers here, I need to hear them!

If there are green drinks that agree with you that don't have

chlorella and you do well with more green veggies & salads, perhaps

you'll find the subtle change in pH will give you a boost. This, of

course, does involve avoiding the extra fats, cheeses, &

breads/pastries you're surrounded with right now.

Joanne

>

> I'm feeling really frustrated and hoping some of you can help me

sort some stuff out.

.......

Chelation has made a real difference for me -- my brain works

better, I'm much

> more socially motivated -- but I would really like to hear someone

say they had this

> debilitating fatigue and got over it for good. Or at least for

more than a few months. And

> as long as I'm wishing, I'd like the recovery not to require

lifelong diet restrictions for G

> and C.

>

> Nell

>

[Guest guest]

> Now I eat more meat, starchy vegetables, more supplements, and even

> strong (85%) chocolate every day to try to compensate for the low

> energy.

Hi Joanne,

Just wondering if you had tried consuming extra fat instead of the chocolate for

energy; for example Coconut Oil, Extra virgin Olive Oil, Animal fats etc? I'd

imagine that the chocolate would give you a burst of energy and then maybe a

crash but consuming more good fats would give you a more constant source of

energy. I know doing this has definitely helped my energy levels. There is some

good info on fats at the Weston Price website:

http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/index.html

Regards,

Cara

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[Guest guest]

> Now I eat more meat, starchy vegetables, more supplements, and even

> strong (85%) chocolate every day to try to compensate for the low

> energy.

Hi Joanne,

Just wondering if you had tried consuming extra fat instead of the chocolate for

energy; for example Coconut Oil, Extra virgin Olive Oil, Animal fats etc? I'd

imagine that the chocolate would give you a burst of energy and then maybe a

crash but consuming more good fats would give you a more constant source of

energy. I know doing this has definitely helped my energy levels. There is some

good info on fats at the Weston Price website:

http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/index.html

Regards,

Cara

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Try making some of the baking that is legal on the SCD. The muffins

and cakes are so good that walking in French bakeries won't bother you

at all. The honey, dates, coconut, butter, almond flour, ripe

bananas, and other legal things I'm not remembering all give extra energy.

J

>

>

> > Now I eat more meat, starchy vegetables, more supplements, and even

> > strong (85%) chocolate every day to try to compensate for the low

> > energy.

>

> Hi Joanne,

> Just wondering if you had tried consuming extra fat instead of the

chocolate for

> energy; for example Coconut Oil, Extra virgin Olive Oil, Animal fats

etc? I'd

> imagine that the chocolate would give you a burst of energy and then

maybe a

> crash but consuming more good fats would give you a more constant

source of

> energy. I know doing this has definitely helped my energy levels.

There is some

> good info on fats at the Weston Price website:

>

> http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/index.html

>

> Regards,

> Cara

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

G and C isn't the only dietary restriction that helps people and it doesn't help

everyone,

and I have not found a lot of evidence the tests are reliable predictors of who

it will help.

Organic and natural is the most basic diet. Actually they use a lot less

agricultural ick in

Europe (but probably lie about it somewhat more than here).

A diet to consider is the specific carbohydrate diet. At least you could eat

lots of cheese!

Also if you have the paradoxical stress response thing the only things that work

are avoid

stress over the trigger threshhold, or take lots of carbamazepine with all the

attendant

side effects and risks but have appropriate response to stress.

Not at all clear if you have checked for sulfur food issues. Dietary sulfur can

vary quite a

bit if you are being CF.

By now you should have had some substantial improvements. If not then it is a

great time

to worry about hidden amalgam, what else is going on, etc.

Andy

[Guest guest]

G and C isn't the only dietary restriction that helps people and it doesn't help

everyone,

and I have not found a lot of evidence the tests are reliable predictors of who

it will help.

Organic and natural is the most basic diet. Actually they use a lot less

agricultural ick in

Europe (but probably lie about it somewhat more than here).

A diet to consider is the specific carbohydrate diet. At least you could eat

lots of cheese!

Also if you have the paradoxical stress response thing the only things that work

are avoid

stress over the trigger threshhold, or take lots of carbamazepine with all the

attendant

side effects and risks but have appropriate response to stress.

Not at all clear if you have checked for sulfur food issues. Dietary sulfur can

vary quite a

bit if you are being CF.

By now you should have had some substantial improvements. If not then it is a

great time

to worry about hidden amalgam, what else is going on, etc.

Andy

[Guest guest]

G and C isn't the only dietary restriction that helps people and it doesn't help

everyone,

and I have not found a lot of evidence the tests are reliable predictors of who

it will help.

Organic and natural is the most basic diet. Actually they use a lot less

agricultural ick in

Europe (but probably lie about it somewhat more than here).

A diet to consider is the specific carbohydrate diet. At least you could eat

lots of cheese!

Also if you have the paradoxical stress response thing the only things that work

are avoid

stress over the trigger threshhold, or take lots of carbamazepine with all the

attendant

side effects and risks but have appropriate response to stress.

Not at all clear if you have checked for sulfur food issues. Dietary sulfur can

vary quite a

bit if you are being CF.

By now you should have had some substantial improvements. If not then it is a

great time

to worry about hidden amalgam, what else is going on, etc.

Andy

[Guest guest]

Hi Neil --

I had a mouthful of mercury for 47 years -- severe chronic exposure. I

have all the symptoms you do. Although I have only done 12 rounds so

far, I have found that neutraceuticals have done wonders for my energy

level. ITheycontains trace minerals and phytonutrients, as well as

balanced amino acids. I actually take two of these neutraceuticals

every day, and they really help. If you want to know more about them,

you can reply to me off-line and I can give you more info. They may

do nothing for you, but it might be worth a shot.

:-) ken MacLean

kmaclean@...

> >

> >

> > > Now I eat more meat, starchy vegetables, more supplements, and even

> > > strong (85%) chocolate every day to try to compensate for the low

> > > energy.

> >

> > Hi Joanne,

> > Just wondering if you had tried consuming extra fat instead of the

> chocolate for

> > energy; for example Coconut Oil, Extra virgin Olive Oil, Animal fats

> etc? I'd

> > imagine that the chocolate would give you a burst of energy and then

> maybe a

> > crash but consuming more good fats would give you a more constant

> source of

> > energy. I know doing this has definitely helped my energy levels.

> There is some

> > good info on fats at the Weston Price website:

> >

> > http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/index.html

> >

> > Regards,

> > Cara

> >

> >

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> >

>

[Guest guest]

> Wow 65 rounds! How long have you been chelating? 2-3 years ?

> Maybe there are other metals that are too high in your body?

I did less than 20 rounds in 2004, then started up again a few years ago.

Sometimes I get in

3 rounds a month, sometimes none. My hair tests have shown lead and arsenic,

hard to tell if

those measurements are real with deranged mineral transport, but I've lived in

old houses my

whole life.

> Have you tried the SCD diet?

I did it with my son years ago. I don;t have the book with me -- what doe SCD

say about

cultured cheeses? Is all that cheesy bacteria thought to be helpful, like

probiotics? Or maybe

some varieties are good and some not so much?

Nell

[Guest guest]

> Now I eat more meat, starchy vegetables, more supplements, and even

> strong (85%) chocolate every day to try to compensate for the low

> energy.

I've become pretty devoted to my dark chocolate too.

Nell

[Guest guest]

Sounds good and hoping to overcome the fatigue also. Does chocolate

help? I'm just not the same person I was two years ago and sure would

like to feel and be normal again but no money for chelation so have to

figure out myself (Me and the Lord)

>

> > Now I eat more meat, starchy vegetables, more supplements, and

even

> > strong (85%) chocolate every day to try to compensate for the low

> > energy.

>

> I've become pretty devoted to my dark chocolate too.

>

> Nell

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Not at all clear if you have checked for sulfur food issues. Dietary sulfur

can vary quite a

> bit if you are being CF.

I did an exclusion diet last summer and had no problem with the reintroduction

of eggs,

garlic, etc. Sometimes a meal of just eggs can make me feel really good.

One of the problems with being CF is that I started having dark moods which were

never a

problem before. Cheese seems to cheer me up. lol

>

> By now you should have had some substantial improvements. If not then it is a

great

time

> to worry about hidden amalgam, what else is going on, etc.

I had 7 amalgams that were not complicated, no crowns or anything, so I can't

imagine

where any amalgam would be hiding. A big exposure for me was 5 or so shots of

RhoGam.

I'm wondering about a viral problem, remembering that at least a couple of times

I've

been doing OK and then gotten slammed by an infection (stomach or repiratory)

and then

it takes practically a year to get back where I was. Or maybe that's just due to

general

weakness and adrenal fatigue.

Nell

[Guest guest]

>

> > Now I eat more meat, starchy vegetables, more supplements, and even

> > strong (85%) chocolate every day to try to compensate for the low

> > energy.

>

> I've become pretty devoted to my dark chocolate too.

>

> Nell

>

Chocolate is very high in copper. Don't know if that is

a good thing if you have too much mercury.

Also chocolate contains cafeine I believe. You get some

energy, but eventually this makes you more tired. It is

a stimulant like coffee. It makes your adrenals weaker.

Greetings Ali

[Guest guest]

> >

> > > Now I eat more meat, starchy vegetables, more supplements, and

> even

> > > strong (85%) chocolate every day to try to compensate for the low

> > > energy.

> >

> > I've become pretty devoted to my dark chocolate too.

> >

> > Nell

> >

>

Eating chocolate regurarly is probably more expensive

than chelating with ALA.

A bottle of ALA costs about 20 dollars, and if you use

a low dose, you can do more than 10 rounds with it.

I am no expert in this, but you will also need vitamin C

and minerals. Probably will cost you 20 dollars or less

a month chelating. Of course if you use more supplements

it becomes more expensive.

I am not sure what the minimum of supplements is that one

should use while chelating, so maybe someone else can help

you with this.

Greetings,

Ali

[Guest guest]

>

> > Wow 65 rounds! How long have you been chelating? 2-3 years ?

> > Maybe there are other metals that are too high in your body?

>

> I did less than 20 rounds in 2004, then started up again a few years

ago. Sometimes I get in

> 3 rounds a month, sometimes none. My hair tests have shown lead and

arsenic, hard to tell if

> those measurements are real with deranged mineral transport, but

I've lived in old houses my

> whole life.

>

> > Have you tried the SCD diet?

>

> I did it with my son years ago. I don;t have the book with me --

what doe SCD say about

> cultured cheeses? Is all that cheesy bacteria thought to be helpful,

like probiotics? Or maybe

> some varieties are good and some not so much?

>

> Nell

>

Hi Nell. I believe you can eat cheese that is lactose free as much

as you want. Check the carbohydrate content. If it says 0 g/100g

than it has no lactose. The older the cheese, the lower the lactose

content.+

You can eat cheese made with yeast/fungus(blue cheeses) ocassionaly,

but I wouldn't.

Cultured cheeses are fine as far as I know. Lactobacillus

acidophilus,S. Thermophilus, L. Bulgaricus culteres are allowed

on the SCD diet.

Have you tried red lentils and split peas. These are SCD legal. You

just need to soak them in water and boil for about 45 minutes. Add

some coconut oil or butter, salt and lemon juice(if you can tollerate

it).

Greetings Ali

[Guest guest]

>

> > Wow 65 rounds! How long have you been chelating? 2-3 years ?

> > Maybe there are other metals that are too high in your body?

>

> I did less than 20 rounds in 2004, then started up again a few years

ago. Sometimes I get in

> 3 rounds a month, sometimes none. My hair tests have shown lead and

arsenic, hard to tell if

> those measurements are real with deranged mineral transport, but

I've lived in old houses my

> whole life.

>

> > Have you tried the SCD diet?

>

> I did it with my son years ago. I don;t have the book with me --

what doe SCD say about

> cultured cheeses? Is all that cheesy bacteria thought to be helpful,

like probiotics? Or maybe

> some varieties are good and some not so much?

>

> Nell

>

Hi Nell. I believe you can eat cheese that is lactose free as much

as you want. Check the carbohydrate content. If it says 0 g/100g

than it has no lactose. The older the cheese, the lower the lactose

content.+

You can eat cheese made with yeast/fungus(blue cheeses) ocassionaly,

but I wouldn't.

Cultured cheeses are fine as far as I know. Lactobacillus

acidophilus,S. Thermophilus, L. Bulgaricus culteres are allowed

on the SCD diet.

Have you tried red lentils and split peas. These are SCD legal. You

just need to soak them in water and boil for about 45 minutes. Add

some coconut oil or butter, salt and lemon juice(if you can tollerate

it).

Greetings Ali