Re: Dosing more frequently than 3 hours for dmsa?

[Guest guest]

In frequent-dose-chelation sunshinep1969 wrote:

Does anyone dose more frequently than 3 hours for dmsa?

---------I don't know if I can recall anyone doing it, but there is never

anything wrong with more frequent dosing. So it is probably worth a

try.-------Jackie

I'm on round 14. 6mg DMSA every 3 hours, 3 days on 4 days off. 5 months

amalgam free.

-----------At 5 months, you are in the *hump* as shown in the graph on page 52

of AI, and this is the time when things can naturally be worse. Quote from Andy

from the following message:

http://onibasu.com/archives/am/154072.html

" Also, pay attention to the graph on page 52 of Amalgam Illness. There

will be a period about 6 months in when gut bugs and everything else

go wild - this is not due to chelation but rather due to the body's

natural response to being able to detox. "

--------Jackie

This round I start feeling mild symptoms coming on when I get close to

the 3 hour mark. feeling a bit rollercoatery this round too, with

marked good and bad spells.

I am trying to increase the length of the rounds now(since I can't

increase the dose size)..i'm on day 4 at the moment.maybe I'm feeling

it because this is the longest round I have managed??

----------Could be, but it's always hard to say for sure. Just usually takes

some experimenting, and sometimes I just think odd things happen and sometimes

come and go. Nothing wrong with trying more frequent dosing, and/or maybe the

longer round just doesn't agree with you.---------Jackie

Sunshine

[Guest guest]

In frequent-dose-chelation sunshinep1969 wrote:

Does anyone dose more frequently than 3 hours for dmsa?

---------I don't know if I can recall anyone doing it, but there is never

anything wrong with more frequent dosing. So it is probably worth a

try.-------Jackie

I'm on round 14. 6mg DMSA every 3 hours, 3 days on 4 days off. 5 months

amalgam free.

-----------At 5 months, you are in the *hump* as shown in the graph on page 52

of AI, and this is the time when things can naturally be worse. Quote from Andy

from the following message:

http://onibasu.com/archives/am/154072.html

" Also, pay attention to the graph on page 52 of Amalgam Illness. There

will be a period about 6 months in when gut bugs and everything else

go wild - this is not due to chelation but rather due to the body's

natural response to being able to detox. "

--------Jackie

This round I start feeling mild symptoms coming on when I get close to

the 3 hour mark. feeling a bit rollercoatery this round too, with

marked good and bad spells.

I am trying to increase the length of the rounds now(since I can't

increase the dose size)..i'm on day 4 at the moment.maybe I'm feeling

it because this is the longest round I have managed??

----------Could be, but it's always hard to say for sure. Just usually takes

some experimenting, and sometimes I just think odd things happen and sometimes

come and go. Nothing wrong with trying more frequent dosing, and/or maybe the

longer round just doesn't agree with you.---------Jackie

Sunshine

[Guest guest]

Oh Jackie, don't say that:-( I really really really don't want to hit

the " hump " ……ever – I got things to do this year! Oooooooooooh!

Brainfog has come in now….guess that's the end of the

round….experiment over…..3 days on, 4 days off is what I will stick

with. 4 days on is too much for me. I feel like a zombie now. I hope

this is not the hump and just too long on a round…..i really don't

want to feel like I did last year ever again.

Sunshine

>

>

>

> Does anyone dose more frequently than 3 hours for dmsa?

>

> ---------I don't know if I can recall anyone doing it, but there

is never anything wrong with more frequent dosing. So it is probably

worth a try.-------Jackie

>

>

>

> I'm on round 14. 6mg DMSA every 3 hours, 3 days on 4 days off. 5

months

> amalgam free.

>

> -----------At 5 months, you are in the *hump* as shown in the

graph on page 52 of AI, and this is the time when things can

naturally be worse. Quote from Andy from the following message:

>

> http://onibasu.com/archives/am/154072.html

>

> " Also, pay attention to the graph on page 52 of Amalgam Illness.

There

> will be a period about 6 months in when gut bugs and everything

else

> go wild - this is not due to chelation but rather due to the

body's

> natural response to being able to detox. "

>

> --------Jackie

>

>

>

> This round I start feeling mild symptoms coming on when I get

close to

> the 3 hour mark. feeling a bit rollercoatery this round too, with

> marked good and bad spells.

>

> I am trying to increase the length of the rounds now(since I

can't

> increase the dose size)..i'm on day 4 at the moment.maybe I'm

feeling

> it because this is the longest round I have managed??

>

> ----------Could be, but it's always hard to say for sure. Just

usually takes some experimenting, and sometimes I just think odd

things happen and sometimes come and go. Nothing wrong with trying

more frequent dosing, and/or maybe the longer round just doesn't

agree with you.---------Jackie

>

>

>

> Sunshine

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Oh Jackie, don't say that:-( I really really really don't want to hit

the " hump " ……ever – I got things to do this year! Oooooooooooh!

Brainfog has come in now….guess that's the end of the

round….experiment over…..3 days on, 4 days off is what I will stick

with. 4 days on is too much for me. I feel like a zombie now. I hope

this is not the hump and just too long on a round…..i really don't

want to feel like I did last year ever again.

Sunshine

>

>

>

> Does anyone dose more frequently than 3 hours for dmsa?

>

> ---------I don't know if I can recall anyone doing it, but there

is never anything wrong with more frequent dosing. So it is probably

worth a try.-------Jackie

>

>

>

> I'm on round 14. 6mg DMSA every 3 hours, 3 days on 4 days off. 5

months

> amalgam free.

>

> -----------At 5 months, you are in the *hump* as shown in the

graph on page 52 of AI, and this is the time when things can

naturally be worse. Quote from Andy from the following message:

>

> http://onibasu.com/archives/am/154072.html

>

> " Also, pay attention to the graph on page 52 of Amalgam Illness.

There

> will be a period about 6 months in when gut bugs and everything

else

> go wild - this is not due to chelation but rather due to the

body's

> natural response to being able to detox. "

>

> --------Jackie

>

>

>

> This round I start feeling mild symptoms coming on when I get

close to

> the 3 hour mark. feeling a bit rollercoatery this round too, with

> marked good and bad spells.

>

> I am trying to increase the length of the rounds now(since I

can't

> increase the dose size)..i'm on day 4 at the moment.maybe I'm

feeling

> it because this is the longest round I have managed??

>

> ----------Could be, but it's always hard to say for sure. Just

usually takes some experimenting, and sometimes I just think odd

things happen and sometimes come and go. Nothing wrong with trying

more frequent dosing, and/or maybe the longer round just doesn't

agree with you.---------Jackie

>

>

>

> Sunshine

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Oh Jackie, don't say that:-( I really really really don't want to hit

the " hump " ……ever – I got things to do this year! Oooooooooooh!

Brainfog has come in now….guess that's the end of the

round….experiment over…..3 days on, 4 days off is what I will stick

with. 4 days on is too much for me. I feel like a zombie now. I hope

this is not the hump and just too long on a round…..i really don't

want to feel like I did last year ever again.

Sunshine

>

>

>

> Does anyone dose more frequently than 3 hours for dmsa?

>

> ---------I don't know if I can recall anyone doing it, but there

is never anything wrong with more frequent dosing. So it is probably

worth a try.-------Jackie

>

>

>

> I'm on round 14. 6mg DMSA every 3 hours, 3 days on 4 days off. 5

months

> amalgam free.

>

> -----------At 5 months, you are in the *hump* as shown in the

graph on page 52 of AI, and this is the time when things can

naturally be worse. Quote from Andy from the following message:

>

> http://onibasu.com/archives/am/154072.html

>

> " Also, pay attention to the graph on page 52 of Amalgam Illness.

There

> will be a period about 6 months in when gut bugs and everything

else

> go wild - this is not due to chelation but rather due to the

body's

> natural response to being able to detox. "

>

> --------Jackie

>

>

>

> This round I start feeling mild symptoms coming on when I get

close to

> the 3 hour mark. feeling a bit rollercoatery this round too, with

> marked good and bad spells.

>

> I am trying to increase the length of the rounds now(since I

can't

> increase the dose size)..i'm on day 4 at the moment.maybe I'm

feeling

> it because this is the longest round I have managed??

>

> ----------Could be, but it's always hard to say for sure. Just

usually takes some experimenting, and sometimes I just think odd

things happen and sometimes come and go. Nothing wrong with trying

more frequent dosing, and/or maybe the longer round just doesn't

agree with you.---------Jackie

>

>

>

> Sunshine

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In frequent-dose-chelation sunshinep1969 wrote:

Oh Jackie, don't say that:-( I really really really don't want to hit

the " hump " ..ever - I got things to do this year! Oooooooooooh!

---------Sorry Sunshine, just trying to be very honest with you. Andy does

say that if you chelate through the hump, that it won't be as bad as if you

weren't, or doing a bad protocol. It is just part of the natural progression of

mercury detox.

Personally, I remember having the *honeymoon period* right after amalgam

removal, and feeling Yipee! And then I do remember things being somewhat worse

around that 6 month mark, like Andy says. And then a year after, I remember

thinking things were getting better and I was on my way, just keep chelating,

and you'll get there.

So I believe I was on the normal pattern up to that point, but then the wheels

fell off for me, with the whole appendix/antibiotics ordeal, and unrelenting

periods of emotional stress. So since that time, I can't say I've been a normal

case.

Anyway, compared to the appendix ordeal and how I felt afterwards, that was a

much bigger backslide than the 6 month hump. It wasn't that bad. So just be

aware that this is normal, and that you will come out the other side.

And I don't want to rain on your parade, but your comment about " I got things

to do this year " , rings in my ears, because I don't know how many times I have

said, " Next year, I'll be able to .......... " So please don't over-do-it and

plan and expect too much out of yourself in this first year post amalgam

removal. When I started feeling pretty good 1 year post removal, I probably

started doing too much, and I have no idea if it had anything to do with my

appendix rupture, but man, did that ever put an end to that.

And I would also like to point out that you can't predict what the future will

bring. All the things that have happened to me and my family during this whole

process has been unbelievable. So much for the hunker down and focus on myself

and avoid stress. Ha. So just be aware that there can be ups and downs, and

some beyond your control, and even though it is helping you to get better,

chelation is stress in and of itself, and shouldn't be taken

lightly.--------Jackie

Brainfog has come in now..guess that's the end of the

round..experiment over...3 days on, 4 days off is what I will stick

with. 4 days on is too much for me. I feel like a zombie now. I hope

this is not the hump and just too long on a round...i really don't

want to feel like I did last year ever again.

-----------Hopefully it will just be a little worse, and not as bad as you

were before. Just stick with the program, and you should come out the other

side. Many others have done it too ------------Jackie

Sunshine

>

>

>

> Does anyone dose more frequently than 3 hours for dmsa?

>

> ---------I don't know if I can recall anyone doing it, but there

is never anything wrong with more frequent dosing. So it is probably

worth a try.-------Jackie

>

>

>

> I'm on round 14. 6mg DMSA every 3 hours, 3 days on 4 days off. 5

months

> amalgam free.

>

> -----------At 5 months, you are in the *hump* as shown in the

graph on page 52 of AI, and this is the time when things can

naturally be worse. Quote from Andy from the following message:

>

> http://onibasu.com/archives/am/154072.html

>

> " Also, pay attention to the graph on page 52 of Amalgam Illness.

There

> will be a period about 6 months in when gut bugs and everything

else

> go wild - this is not due to chelation but rather due to the

body's

> natural response to being able to detox. "

>

> --------Jackie

>

>

>

> This round I start feeling mild symptoms coming on when I get

close to

> the 3 hour mark. feeling a bit rollercoatery this round too, with

> marked good and bad spells.

>

> I am trying to increase the length of the rounds now(since I

can't

> increase the dose size)..i'm on day 4 at the moment.maybe I'm

feeling

> it because this is the longest round I have managed??

>

> ----------Could be, but it's always hard to say for sure. Just

usually takes some experimenting, and sometimes I just think odd

things happen and sometimes come and go. Nothing wrong with trying

more frequent dosing, and/or maybe the longer round just doesn't

agree with you.---------Jackie

>

>

>

> Sunshine

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In frequent-dose-chelation sunshinep1969 wrote:

Oh Jackie, don't say that:-( I really really really don't want to hit

the " hump " ..ever - I got things to do this year! Oooooooooooh!

---------Sorry Sunshine, just trying to be very honest with you. Andy does

say that if you chelate through the hump, that it won't be as bad as if you

weren't, or doing a bad protocol. It is just part of the natural progression of

mercury detox.

Personally, I remember having the *honeymoon period* right after amalgam

removal, and feeling Yipee! And then I do remember things being somewhat worse

around that 6 month mark, like Andy says. And then a year after, I remember

thinking things were getting better and I was on my way, just keep chelating,

and you'll get there.

So I believe I was on the normal pattern up to that point, but then the wheels

fell off for me, with the whole appendix/antibiotics ordeal, and unrelenting

periods of emotional stress. So since that time, I can't say I've been a normal

case.

Anyway, compared to the appendix ordeal and how I felt afterwards, that was a

much bigger backslide than the 6 month hump. It wasn't that bad. So just be

aware that this is normal, and that you will come out the other side.

And I don't want to rain on your parade, but your comment about " I got things

to do this year " , rings in my ears, because I don't know how many times I have

said, " Next year, I'll be able to .......... " So please don't over-do-it and

plan and expect too much out of yourself in this first year post amalgam

removal. When I started feeling pretty good 1 year post removal, I probably

started doing too much, and I have no idea if it had anything to do with my

appendix rupture, but man, did that ever put an end to that.

And I would also like to point out that you can't predict what the future will

bring. All the things that have happened to me and my family during this whole

process has been unbelievable. So much for the hunker down and focus on myself

and avoid stress. Ha. So just be aware that there can be ups and downs, and

some beyond your control, and even though it is helping you to get better,

chelation is stress in and of itself, and shouldn't be taken

lightly.--------Jackie

Brainfog has come in now..guess that's the end of the

round..experiment over...3 days on, 4 days off is what I will stick

with. 4 days on is too much for me. I feel like a zombie now. I hope

this is not the hump and just too long on a round...i really don't

want to feel like I did last year ever again.

-----------Hopefully it will just be a little worse, and not as bad as you

were before. Just stick with the program, and you should come out the other

side. Many others have done it too ------------Jackie

Sunshine

>

>

>

> Does anyone dose more frequently than 3 hours for dmsa?

>

> ---------I don't know if I can recall anyone doing it, but there

is never anything wrong with more frequent dosing. So it is probably

worth a try.-------Jackie

>

>

>

> I'm on round 14. 6mg DMSA every 3 hours, 3 days on 4 days off. 5

months

> amalgam free.

>

> -----------At 5 months, you are in the *hump* as shown in the

graph on page 52 of AI, and this is the time when things can

naturally be worse. Quote from Andy from the following message:

>

> http://onibasu.com/archives/am/154072.html

>

> " Also, pay attention to the graph on page 52 of Amalgam Illness.

There

> will be a period about 6 months in when gut bugs and everything

else

> go wild - this is not due to chelation but rather due to the

body's

> natural response to being able to detox. "

>

> --------Jackie

>

>

>

> This round I start feeling mild symptoms coming on when I get

close to

> the 3 hour mark. feeling a bit rollercoatery this round too, with

> marked good and bad spells.

>

> I am trying to increase the length of the rounds now(since I

can't

> increase the dose size)..i'm on day 4 at the moment.maybe I'm

feeling

> it because this is the longest round I have managed??

>

> ----------Could be, but it's always hard to say for sure. Just

usually takes some experimenting, and sometimes I just think odd

things happen and sometimes come and go. Nothing wrong with trying

more frequent dosing, and/or maybe the longer round just doesn't

agree with you.---------Jackie

>

>

>

> Sunshine

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I don't know if this is the beginning of the hump or not, but I'm

feeling rough as old boots again. I have not felt this bad since

amalgam removal. I guess I will find out over the next few weeks.

I have been feeling better and better since amalgam removal. Its been

lovely. It was not a sudden recovery, more a hard fought battle that

I was winning….until yesterday.

I do plan to chelate during any humps.

" I got things to do this year " – unavoidable things….i really need

and want to be functioning. My wife is pregnant, due in June.

Tkx Jackie, sorry to grumble, this group is a life saver for me, take

care.

>

>

> Oh Jackie, don't say that:-( I really really really don't want to

hit

> the " hump " ..ever - I got things to do this year! Oooooooooooh!

>

> ---------Sorry Sunshine, just trying to be very honest with you.

Andy does say that if you chelate through the hump, that it won't be

as bad as if you weren't, or doing a bad protocol. It is just part

of the natural progression of mercury detox.

>

> Personally, I remember having the *honeymoon period* right after

amalgam removal, and feeling Yipee! And then I do remember things

being somewhat worse around that 6 month mark, like Andy says. And

then a year after, I remember thinking things were getting better and

I was on my way, just keep chelating, and you'll get there.

>

> So I believe I was on the normal pattern up to that point, but

then the wheels fell off for me, with the whole appendix/antibiotics

ordeal, and unrelenting periods of emotional stress. So since that

time, I can't say I've been a normal case.

>

> Anyway, compared to the appendix ordeal and how I felt

afterwards, that was a much bigger backslide than the 6 month hump.

It wasn't that bad. So just be aware that this is normal, and that

you will come out the other side.

>

> And I don't want to rain on your parade, but your comment

about " I got things to do this year " , rings in my ears, because I

don't know how many times I have said, " Next year, I'll be able

to .......... " So please don't over-do-it and plan and expect too

much out of yourself in this first year post amalgam removal. When I

started feeling pretty good 1 year post removal, I probably started

doing too much, and I have no idea if it had anything to do with my

appendix rupture, but man, did that ever put an end to that.

>

> And I would also like to point out that you can't predict what

the future will bring. All the things that have happened to me and

my family during this whole process has been unbelievable. So much

for the hunker down and focus on myself and avoid stress. Ha. So

just be aware that there can be ups and downs, and some beyond your

control, and even though it is helping you to get better, chelation

is stress in and of itself, and shouldn't be taken lightly.--------

Jackie

>

>

>

> Brainfog has come in now..guess that's the end of the

> round..experiment over...3 days on, 4 days off is what I will

stick

> with. 4 days on is too much for me. I feel like a zombie now. I

hope

> this is not the hump and just too long on a round...i really

don't

> want to feel like I did last year ever again.

>

> -----------Hopefully it will just be a little worse, and not as

bad as you were before. Just stick with the program, and you should

come out the other side. Many others have done it too -----------

-Jackie

[Guest guest]

I don't know if this is the beginning of the hump or not, but I'm

feeling rough as old boots again. I have not felt this bad since

amalgam removal. I guess I will find out over the next few weeks.

I have been feeling better and better since amalgam removal. Its been

lovely. It was not a sudden recovery, more a hard fought battle that

I was winning….until yesterday.

I do plan to chelate during any humps.

" I got things to do this year " – unavoidable things….i really need

and want to be functioning. My wife is pregnant, due in June.

Tkx Jackie, sorry to grumble, this group is a life saver for me, take

care.

>

>

> Oh Jackie, don't say that:-( I really really really don't want to

hit

> the " hump " ..ever - I got things to do this year! Oooooooooooh!

>

> ---------Sorry Sunshine, just trying to be very honest with you.

Andy does say that if you chelate through the hump, that it won't be

as bad as if you weren't, or doing a bad protocol. It is just part

of the natural progression of mercury detox.

>

> Personally, I remember having the *honeymoon period* right after

amalgam removal, and feeling Yipee! And then I do remember things

being somewhat worse around that 6 month mark, like Andy says. And

then a year after, I remember thinking things were getting better and

I was on my way, just keep chelating, and you'll get there.

>

> So I believe I was on the normal pattern up to that point, but

then the wheels fell off for me, with the whole appendix/antibiotics

ordeal, and unrelenting periods of emotional stress. So since that

time, I can't say I've been a normal case.

>

> Anyway, compared to the appendix ordeal and how I felt

afterwards, that was a much bigger backslide than the 6 month hump.

It wasn't that bad. So just be aware that this is normal, and that

you will come out the other side.

>

> And I don't want to rain on your parade, but your comment

about " I got things to do this year " , rings in my ears, because I

don't know how many times I have said, " Next year, I'll be able

to .......... " So please don't over-do-it and plan and expect too

much out of yourself in this first year post amalgam removal. When I

started feeling pretty good 1 year post removal, I probably started

doing too much, and I have no idea if it had anything to do with my

appendix rupture, but man, did that ever put an end to that.

>

> And I would also like to point out that you can't predict what

the future will bring. All the things that have happened to me and

my family during this whole process has been unbelievable. So much

for the hunker down and focus on myself and avoid stress. Ha. So

just be aware that there can be ups and downs, and some beyond your

control, and even though it is helping you to get better, chelation

is stress in and of itself, and shouldn't be taken lightly.--------

Jackie

>

>

>

> Brainfog has come in now..guess that's the end of the

> round..experiment over...3 days on, 4 days off is what I will

stick

> with. 4 days on is too much for me. I feel like a zombie now. I

hope

> this is not the hump and just too long on a round...i really

don't

> want to feel like I did last year ever again.

>

> -----------Hopefully it will just be a little worse, and not as

bad as you were before. Just stick with the program, and you should

come out the other side. Many others have done it too -----------

-Jackie

[Guest guest]

>

> I don't know if this is the beginning of the hump or not, but I'm

> feeling rough as old boots again. I have not felt this bad since

> amalgam removal. I guess I will find out over the next few weeks.

Sorry you are feeling bad again Sunshine!

> I have been feeling better and better since amalgam removal. Its been

> lovely. It was not a sudden recovery, more a hard fought battle that

> I was winning….until yesterday.

> I do plan to chelate during any humps.

>

> " I got things to do this year " – unavoidable things….i really need

> and want to be functioning. My wife is pregnant, due in June.

That is exciting!

FWIW I feel a lot better dosing more often. Maybe this will help

you, too.

If not, maybe it is the parasite stuff acting up again? You might

want to look into immune supports to help with the problem vs just

stuff to kill the parasites. Also, watch out for sulfury herbs.

I hate to say it, but I wouldn't be surprised if your combo

parasite cleanse stuff has some sulfury stuff in it.

--

> Tkx Jackie, sorry to grumble, this group is a life saver for me, take

> care.

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I don't know if this is the beginning of the hump or not, but I'm

> feeling rough as old boots again. I have not felt this bad since

> amalgam removal. I guess I will find out over the next few weeks.

Sorry you are feeling bad again Sunshine!

> I have been feeling better and better since amalgam removal. Its been

> lovely. It was not a sudden recovery, more a hard fought battle that

> I was winning….until yesterday.

> I do plan to chelate during any humps.

>

> " I got things to do this year " – unavoidable things….i really need

> and want to be functioning. My wife is pregnant, due in June.

That is exciting!

FWIW I feel a lot better dosing more often. Maybe this will help

you, too.

If not, maybe it is the parasite stuff acting up again? You might

want to look into immune supports to help with the problem vs just

stuff to kill the parasites. Also, watch out for sulfury herbs.

I hate to say it, but I wouldn't be surprised if your combo

parasite cleanse stuff has some sulfury stuff in it.

--

> Tkx Jackie, sorry to grumble, this group is a life saver for me, take

> care.

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> FWIW I feel a lot better dosing more often. Maybe this will help

> you, too.

Sunshine: The previous 10 rounds have been fine. If the next round is

problematic i will dose more often.

>

> If not, maybe it is the parasite stuff acting up again? You might

> want to look into immune supports to help with the problem vs just

> stuff to kill the parasites. Also, watch out for sulfury herbs.

> I hate to say it, but I wouldn't be surprised if your combo

> parasite cleanse stuff has some sulfury stuff in it.

>

> --

Sunshine: I seemed to have recovered from the worst effects now. Was

fairly intense at the time, I have not had brain fog that harsh for

ages. All in all I was zombiefied for about 36 hours. I take that as

a good sign that I have recovered quickly.

I assume it was " just " because I chelated for 4 days instead of my

usual 3. Seems to be a fine line between all ok…and all hell breaking

loose.

Think my adrenals took a beating….temps are down & feeling cold

again. I have upped my ACE dosage today so hopefully that will help.

I am inbetween parasite cleanses at the moment, so can't be that.

I finished a 1 month bowel cleanse a couple of weeks ago, so can't be

that.

I am however doing a kidney cleanse now, its possible that could have

an effect, but I thinks that's doubtful as they are cleansing herbs

that facilitate toxin removal…so that should help…but not sure.

So far all of Cutler words have come true for me, so I assume I will

hit a dumping phase at some point….if I struggle on the next round

then maybe its starting now…time will tell.

Sunshine

[Guest guest]

>

> Sunshine: I seemed to have recovered from the worst effects now. Was

> fairly intense at the time, I have not had brain fog that harsh for

> ages. All in all I was zombiefied for about 36 hours. I take that as

> a good sign that I have recovered quickly.

>

> I assume it was " just " because I chelated for 4 days instead of my

> usual 3. Seems to be a fine line between all ok…and all hell breaking

> loose.

Just to clarify, were your symptoms normal until day 4? Earlier

in this thread you described feeling worse before it was time to

dose at 3 hours. Was that for the whole round, or just on day 4?

If for the whole round, then dosing more frequently seems like a

good idea.

> Think my adrenals took a beating….temps are down & feeling cold

> again. I have upped my ACE dosage today so hopefully that will help.

>

> I am inbetween parasite cleanses at the moment, so can't be that.

> I finished a 1 month bowel cleanse a couple of weeks ago, so can't be

> that.

> I am however doing a kidney cleanse now, its possible that could have

> an effect, but I thinks that's doubtful as they are cleansing herbs

> that facilitate toxin removal…so that should help…but not sure.

>

> So far all of Cutler words have come true for me, so I assume I will

> hit a dumping phase at some point….if I struggle on the next round

> then maybe its starting now…time will tell.

It is possible you are hitting the dumping phase. With more metals

moving maybe you are more aware of the change in blood levels as a

dose wears off. If you notice the same thing next time, I think you

should definitely increase your dose frequency.

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> Sunshine

>

[Guest guest]

> >

>

>

> > Sunshine: I seemed to have recovered from the worst effects now.

Was

> > fairly intense at the time, I have not had brain fog that harsh

for

> > ages. All in all I was zombiefied for about 36 hours. I take that

as

> > a good sign that I have recovered quickly.

> >

> > I assume it was " just " because I chelated for 4 days instead of

my

> > usual 3. Seems to be a fine line between all ok…and all hell

breaking

> > loose.

>

>

> Just to clarify, were your symptoms normal until day 4? Earlier

> in this thread you described feeling worse before it was time to

> dose at 3 hours. Was that for the whole round, or just on day 4?

> If for the whole round, then dosing more frequently seems like a

> good idea.

Sunshine: Was from the beginning of the 3rd day on round when I

started feeling that I needed to dose more frequently. Day 3 and 4

was a bit up and down….rollercoaster riding that got progressively

worse as the round got longer. Remember I am still on a low dose of

only 6mg DMSA

>

>

> > Think my adrenals took a beating….temps are down & feeling cold

> > again. I have upped my ACE dosage today so hopefully that will

help.

> >

> > I am inbetween parasite cleanses at the moment, so can't be that.

> > I finished a 1 month bowel cleanse a couple of weeks ago, so

can't be

> > that.

> > I am however doing a kidney cleanse now, its possible that could

have

> > an effect, but I thinks that's doubtful as they are cleansing

herbs

> > that facilitate toxin removal…so that should help…but not sure.

> >

> > So far all of Cutler words have come true for me, so I assume I

will

> > hit a dumping phase at some point….if I struggle on the next

round

> > then maybe its starting now…time will tell.

>

>

> It is possible you are hitting the dumping phase. With more metals

> moving maybe you are more aware of the change in blood levels as a

> dose wears off. If you notice the same thing next time, I think

you

> should definitely increase your dose frequency.

>

> --

Sunshine: If I get symptoms and I feel I need to dose more frequently

on the next round should I a) increase the frequency or stop the

round?

My gut feeling is to increase the frequency as stopping rounds early

leads to more off-round re-distribution symptoms (which I had before

after I missed a dose.)

[Guest guest]

> >

> > Just to clarify, were your symptoms normal until day 4? Earlier

> > in this thread you described feeling worse before it was time to

> > dose at 3 hours. Was that for the whole round, or just on day 4?

> > If for the whole round, then dosing more frequently seems like a

> > good idea.

>

>

> Sunshine: Was from the beginning of the 3rd day on round when I

> started feeling that I needed to dose more frequently. Day 3 and 4

> was a bit up and down….rollercoaster riding that got progressively

> worse as the round got longer. Remember I am still on a low dose of

> only 6mg DMSA

I can't remember if this has been suggested to you in the past, but

you might do well to try DMPS. Perhaps you would tolerate it better

and feel better on rounds (and be more able to appreciate the joys

in life!). Some do better on ALA, but I'm thinking if you are high

cysteine that is unlikely.

You could be one of those people whose symptoms increase as the

round length increases. Maybe you didn't notice a worsening on

day 3 in the past because you were moving less mercury then.

Also possible that you just had a bad round and next time things

will be smoother.

> > > Think my adrenals took a beating….temps are down & feeling cold

> > > again. I have upped my ACE dosage today so hopefully that will

> help.

This makes me wonder if your thyroid and adrenal support is optimal

for your needs.

> Sunshine: If I get symptoms and I feel I need to dose more frequently

> on the next round should I a) increase the frequency or stop the

> round?

>

> My gut feeling is to increase the frequency as stopping rounds early

> leads to more off-round re-distribution symptoms (which I had before

> after I missed a dose.)

The only thing to be aware of is if you increase the frequency, you

are increasing the total amount of chelator per day, so the total

amount of metals moved can change. If you switch from 3 hours to

2.5 hours, it is a small difference and I doubt it would cause any

problem. Seems to me it would be less risky than ending the round

early.

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[Guest guest]

> > Sunshine: Was from the beginning of the 3rd day on round when I

> > started feeling that I needed to dose more frequently. Day 3 and 4

> > was a bit up and down….rollercoaster riding that got progressively

> > worse as the round got longer. Remember I am still on a low dose

of

> > only 6mg DMSA

>

>

> I can't remember if this has been suggested to you in the past, but

> you might do well to try DMPS. Perhaps you would tolerate it

better

> and feel better on rounds (and be more able to appreciate the joys

> in life!). Some do better on ALA, but I'm thinking if you are high

> cysteine that is unlikely.

>

> You could be one of those people whose symptoms increase as the

> round length increases. Maybe you didn't notice a worsening on

> day 3 in the past because you were moving less mercury then.

>

> Also possible that you just had a bad round and next time things

> will be smoother.

>

Sunshine: DMPS is prescription only. If i could get my hands on some

DMPS i would try it. Anyone knows a UK doctor willing to dish it

out....let me know.

>

>

> > > > Think my adrenals took a beating….temps are down & feeling

cold

> > > > again. I have upped my ACE dosage today so hopefully that will

> > help.

>

>

> This makes me wonder if your thyroid and adrenal support is optimal

> for your needs.

>

Sunshine: yeah ....its a slow progress upping the ACE dose. If i

increace the dose too quickly i get blinding headaches plus lots of

tingling...so I can only go slow. I just got to 500mg each day and

after this setback i took a chance and increased the dose to 625mg

each morning...no headaches so seems ok. Thats taken 3 months to get

there. Each time i push it i just get hurt.