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> In a way it would have been *better* if he'd got 6 f's. That would

> have been clear cut, no choice, no wrangling; Go to Yeshivah

and

> that's it.

What a bummer - it's awful when these things aren't clear cut ;((

Good luck on the sixth form begging.

Caroline

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> In a way it would have been *better* if he'd got 6 f's. That would

> have been clear cut, no choice, no wrangling; Go to Yeshivah

and

> that's it.

What a bummer - it's awful when these things aren't clear cut ;((

Good luck on the sixth form begging.

Caroline

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> > In a way it would have been *better* if he'd got 6 f's. That

would

> > have been clear cut, no choice, no wrangling; Go to Yeshivah

> and

> > that's it.

>

> What a bummer - it's awful when these things aren't clear cut ;((

> Good luck on the sixth form begging.

> Caroline

DH and I had a chat with Yeshaya just now about a plan of action.

We are fairly lucky in that he has decided on a Yeshivah if he does

go to one; it's right here in our Jerusalem neighbourhood, in fact

the Dean, Rabbi M, uses our house to prepare his lessons when we

aren't here. DH is in fact going into the Yeshivah in about fifteen

minutes to give a " shiur " (religious lesson), and then he will talk

to Rabbi M and arrange a time for Yeshaya to meet with him.

The plan is as follows:

we go home on Monday, and DH speaks to the 6th form school and sees

whether we can get him in despite his results. If he gets in (remote

chance) it's on the strict understanding that he has ONE term to

prove he has changed his attitude to working, otherwise we take him

out and he goes to yeshivah anyway.

If, as is more likely, he doesn't get in to the 6th form, we will

prepare for him to come back here and join Rabbi M's place. It makes

more sense than leaving him here now; he isn't prepared for it,

either physically (shopping for suitable clothes etc) or

emotionally..he needs to say goodbye to his friends etc.

Does this sound sensible?

sigh

Ruthie

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> > In a way it would have been *better* if he'd got 6 f's. That

would

> > have been clear cut, no choice, no wrangling; Go to Yeshivah

> and

> > that's it.

>

> What a bummer - it's awful when these things aren't clear cut ;((

> Good luck on the sixth form begging.

> Caroline

DH and I had a chat with Yeshaya just now about a plan of action.

We are fairly lucky in that he has decided on a Yeshivah if he does

go to one; it's right here in our Jerusalem neighbourhood, in fact

the Dean, Rabbi M, uses our house to prepare his lessons when we

aren't here. DH is in fact going into the Yeshivah in about fifteen

minutes to give a " shiur " (religious lesson), and then he will talk

to Rabbi M and arrange a time for Yeshaya to meet with him.

The plan is as follows:

we go home on Monday, and DH speaks to the 6th form school and sees

whether we can get him in despite his results. If he gets in (remote

chance) it's on the strict understanding that he has ONE term to

prove he has changed his attitude to working, otherwise we take him

out and he goes to yeshivah anyway.

If, as is more likely, he doesn't get in to the 6th form, we will

prepare for him to come back here and join Rabbi M's place. It makes

more sense than leaving him here now; he isn't prepared for it,

either physically (shopping for suitable clothes etc) or

emotionally..he needs to say goodbye to his friends etc.

Does this sound sensible?

sigh

Ruthie

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> > In a way it would have been *better* if he'd got 6 f's. That

would

> > have been clear cut, no choice, no wrangling; Go to Yeshivah

> and

> > that's it.

>

> What a bummer - it's awful when these things aren't clear cut ;((

> Good luck on the sixth form begging.

> Caroline

DH and I had a chat with Yeshaya just now about a plan of action.

We are fairly lucky in that he has decided on a Yeshivah if he does

go to one; it's right here in our Jerusalem neighbourhood, in fact

the Dean, Rabbi M, uses our house to prepare his lessons when we

aren't here. DH is in fact going into the Yeshivah in about fifteen

minutes to give a " shiur " (religious lesson), and then he will talk

to Rabbi M and arrange a time for Yeshaya to meet with him.

The plan is as follows:

we go home on Monday, and DH speaks to the 6th form school and sees

whether we can get him in despite his results. If he gets in (remote

chance) it's on the strict understanding that he has ONE term to

prove he has changed his attitude to working, otherwise we take him

out and he goes to yeshivah anyway.

If, as is more likely, he doesn't get in to the 6th form, we will

prepare for him to come back here and join Rabbi M's place. It makes

more sense than leaving him here now; he isn't prepared for it,

either physically (shopping for suitable clothes etc) or

emotionally..he needs to say goodbye to his friends etc.

Does this sound sensible?

sigh

Ruthie

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> > In a way it would have been *better* if he'd got 6 f's. That

would

> > have been clear cut, no choice, no wrangling; Go to Yeshivah

> and

> > that's it.

>

> What a bummer - it's awful when these things aren't clear cut ;((

> Good luck on the sixth form begging.

> Caroline

DH and I had a chat with Yeshaya just now about a plan of action.

We are fairly lucky in that he has decided on a Yeshivah if he does

go to one; it's right here in our Jerusalem neighbourhood, in fact

the Dean, Rabbi M, uses our house to prepare his lessons when we

aren't here. DH is in fact going into the Yeshivah in about fifteen

minutes to give a " shiur " (religious lesson), and then he will talk

to Rabbi M and arrange a time for Yeshaya to meet with him.

The plan is as follows:

we go home on Monday, and DH speaks to the 6th form school and sees

whether we can get him in despite his results. If he gets in (remote

chance) it's on the strict understanding that he has ONE term to

prove he has changed his attitude to working, otherwise we take him

out and he goes to yeshivah anyway.

If, as is more likely, he doesn't get in to the 6th form, we will

prepare for him to come back here and join Rabbi M's place. It makes

more sense than leaving him here now; he isn't prepared for it,

either physically (shopping for suitable clothes etc) or

emotionally..he needs to say goodbye to his friends etc.

Does this sound sensible?

sigh

Ruthie

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> > In a way it would have been *better* if he'd got 6 f's. That

would

> > have been clear cut, no choice, no wrangling; Go to Yeshivah

> and

> > that's it.

>

> What a bummer - it's awful when these things aren't clear cut ;((

> Good luck on the sixth form begging.

> Caroline

DH and I had a chat with Yeshaya just now about a plan of action.

We are fairly lucky in that he has decided on a Yeshivah if he does

go to one; it's right here in our Jerusalem neighbourhood, in fact

the Dean, Rabbi M, uses our house to prepare his lessons when we

aren't here. DH is in fact going into the Yeshivah in about fifteen

minutes to give a " shiur " (religious lesson), and then he will talk

to Rabbi M and arrange a time for Yeshaya to meet with him.

The plan is as follows:

we go home on Monday, and DH speaks to the 6th form school and sees

whether we can get him in despite his results. If he gets in (remote

chance) it's on the strict understanding that he has ONE term to

prove he has changed his attitude to working, otherwise we take him

out and he goes to yeshivah anyway.

If, as is more likely, he doesn't get in to the 6th form, we will

prepare for him to come back here and join Rabbi M's place. It makes

more sense than leaving him here now; he isn't prepared for it,

either physically (shopping for suitable clothes etc) or

emotionally..he needs to say goodbye to his friends etc.

Does this sound sensible?

sigh

Ruthie

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Ruthie

Sounds like a good and solid plan and also making sure that Yeshaya knows that

IF he does get into the 6th form it is really up to him (no being able to blame

it on mum and dad)

good luck ;o) Sorry to hear all is up in the air but you sound like you get

getting around it ;o)

Lonnie Phoebe & Eloisa's mama

& expecting a Christmas delivery...

My therapist told me the way to achieve true inner peace is to finish what you

start.

So far today, I have finished 2 bags of chips and a Chocolate cake.

I feel better already.

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> Does this sound sensible?

>

> sigh

>

> Ruthie

Yes - it sounds like you are doing everything you can do.

Is there a feeling of sadness about sorting out the Further Ed of

your final child? I feel tearful enough at the thought of Joe starting

school soon (and I'll have to go through it again in 5 years time)

but it must be quite hard with your eighth child! Vent as much as

you like - we are here to listen (even if we don't always have an

answer!)

Caroline

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Ruthie,

I'm sure Yeshaya will land on his feet eventually - he's probably just a

slow developer. GCSEs nowadays are less and less suitable for the learning

styles of many boys, and they are not the be-all-and -end-all. Hopefully

he can get his education for next year sorted out soon and give you some

peace of mind.

Joyce

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Ruthie,

I'm sure Yeshaya will land on his feet eventually - he's probably just a

slow developer. GCSEs nowadays are less and less suitable for the learning

styles of many boys, and they are not the be-all-and -end-all. Hopefully

he can get his education for next year sorted out soon and give you some

peace of mind.

Joyce

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Ruthie,

I'm sure Yeshaya will land on his feet eventually - he's probably just a

slow developer. GCSEs nowadays are less and less suitable for the learning

styles of many boys, and they are not the be-all-and -end-all. Hopefully

he can get his education for next year sorted out soon and give you some

peace of mind.

Joyce

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Oh dear - what problems for you. Why is life never straightforward -

always these crossroads.

Hope it all works out for you all.

Todman

Treasurer, Stansted Branch (R5)

Mum to , 3½ (and glad we've a long way to go until we have such

worries)

> If, as is more likely, he doesn't get in to the 6th form, we will

> prepare for him to come back here and join Rabbi M's place. It

makes

> more sense than leaving him here now; he isn't prepared for it,

> either physically (shopping for suitable clothes etc) or

> emotionally..he needs to say goodbye to his friends etc.

>

> Does this sound sensible?

>

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> Does everyone else remember getting their GCSE/O level

results? How did

> your families celebrate/commiserate?

Unfortunately my parents were in the process of splitting up at

the time and I opened my results (8 O levels between A and C),

and like you no one seemed that bothered. They took me out for

a meal at a nice restaurant but spent the whole evening sniping

and arguing with each other...

Probably not the best moment of my life (and they wonder why I

went downhill academically from then on)

Caroline

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I remember of sorts. The envelope arrived on the day we were going on

holiday. Armed with my envelope, I remember standing in a smelly old

red phone box ringing all my friends to exchange results. I still

have the envelope containing the results that has scribble all over

with everyone else's results on.

One friend was in Devon on hols with her mum and her dad got caught

speeding taking the envelope to her - when he explained and showed the

police the unopened envelope they let him off with a warning.

Can't remember much about my A levels tho'. Only that i was really

disappointed as i could read the results through the envelope and they

were worse than I expected. Strangely the results were the same when

I did open the envelope,tho' I was hoping they'd be different.

Todman

Treasurer, Stansted Branch (R5)

Mum to , 3½

> Does everyone else remember getting their GCSE/O level results? How

did

> your families celebrate/commiserate?

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I remember of sorts. The envelope arrived on the day we were going on

holiday. Armed with my envelope, I remember standing in a smelly old

red phone box ringing all my friends to exchange results. I still

have the envelope containing the results that has scribble all over

with everyone else's results on.

One friend was in Devon on hols with her mum and her dad got caught

speeding taking the envelope to her - when he explained and showed the

police the unopened envelope they let him off with a warning.

Can't remember much about my A levels tho'. Only that i was really

disappointed as i could read the results through the envelope and they

were worse than I expected. Strangely the results were the same when

I did open the envelope,tho' I was hoping they'd be different.

Todman

Treasurer, Stansted Branch (R5)

Mum to , 3½

> Does everyone else remember getting their GCSE/O level results? How

did

> your families celebrate/commiserate?

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I remember of sorts. The envelope arrived on the day we were going on

holiday. Armed with my envelope, I remember standing in a smelly old

red phone box ringing all my friends to exchange results. I still

have the envelope containing the results that has scribble all over

with everyone else's results on.

One friend was in Devon on hols with her mum and her dad got caught

speeding taking the envelope to her - when he explained and showed the

police the unopened envelope they let him off with a warning.

Can't remember much about my A levels tho'. Only that i was really

disappointed as i could read the results through the envelope and they

were worse than I expected. Strangely the results were the same when

I did open the envelope,tho' I was hoping they'd be different.

Todman

Treasurer, Stansted Branch (R5)

Mum to , 3½

> Does everyone else remember getting their GCSE/O level results? How

did

> your families celebrate/commiserate?

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> In a way it would have been *better* if he'd got 6 f's. That would

> have been clear cut, no choice, no wrangling; Go to Yeshivah and

> that's it.

>

> Or his 5 C's of course, the minimum required to get into the sixth

> form of his choice. But as we expected he didn't get 5 C's. He got

> 1 C, 3 D's an E and an F. Pretty gruesome but giving him some kind

> of chink of hope that maybe the sixth form will possibly still

> have him if we beg.

>

> Ruthie

I think it's lovely that you're so involved and care so much - Yeshaya

doesn't know how lucky he is!

It was a real anticlimax when I got my GCSE results - we'd just got back

from a holiday when I opened them, and I'd done really well (six a's, 3 b's)

and I suppose I expected celebrations and jubilation's, but Mum and Dad just

said well done etc and that was that - all over

Does everyone else remember getting their GCSE/O level results? How did

your families celebrate/commiserate?

Hannah, 27

Mum to Bethany 7, Lawrence 5 1/2, Verity 3, Alfie 6 months

Visit me on the web at :-

http://hannahshome.20m.com

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> In a way it would have been *better* if he'd got 6 f's. That would

> have been clear cut, no choice, no wrangling; Go to Yeshivah and

> that's it.

>

> Or his 5 C's of course, the minimum required to get into the sixth

> form of his choice. But as we expected he didn't get 5 C's. He got

> 1 C, 3 D's an E and an F. Pretty gruesome but giving him some kind

> of chink of hope that maybe the sixth form will possibly still

> have him if we beg.

>

> Ruthie

I think it's lovely that you're so involved and care so much - Yeshaya

doesn't know how lucky he is!

It was a real anticlimax when I got my GCSE results - we'd just got back

from a holiday when I opened them, and I'd done really well (six a's, 3 b's)

and I suppose I expected celebrations and jubilation's, but Mum and Dad just

said well done etc and that was that - all over

Does everyone else remember getting their GCSE/O level results? How did

your families celebrate/commiserate?

Hannah, 27

Mum to Bethany 7, Lawrence 5 1/2, Verity 3, Alfie 6 months

Visit me on the web at :-

http://hannahshome.20m.com

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> Does everyone else remember getting their GCSE/O level results? How

did

> your families celebrate/commiserate?

>

> Hannah, 27

> Mum to Bethany 7, Lawrence 5 1/2, Verity 3, Alfie 6 months

>

hmm don't think it was very memorable, 4b's & 2c's my twin didn't pass

any but had managed to get into Dartington Art College on the strength

of a couple of tigers and leopards she had drawn. They were fantastic

mind you. So it makes you wonder why you bother with written exams.

She works as a chef now by the way, fantastic at it and taught

herself.

:-)

Tupman

Mum to Matt 13, 10, Jonty 2 & Phil 36

Torbay & S.Devon Branch

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> > Does this sound sensible?

> >

> > sigh

> >

> > Ruthie

> Yes - it sounds like you are doing everything you can do.

> Is there a feeling of sadness about sorting out the Further Ed of

> your final child? I feel tearful enough at the thought of Joe

starting

> school soon (and I'll have to go through it again in 5 years time)

> but it must be quite hard with your eighth child! Vent as much as

> you like - we are here to listen (even if we don't always have an

> answer!)

> Caroline

Thanks :) He seems to be reconciling himself more and more to going

to Rabbi M's yeshivah, he's just gone off to play basketball with the

yeshivah students tonight. Maybe he won't even want us to try and

get him into sixth form in the end, who knows...

I will feel very sad if he is so far away from home..at least Tavya

and Dov will be in Jerusalem to keep an eye on him for the first

year. He's so young :(

Ruthie

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> > Does this sound sensible?

> >

> > sigh

> >

> > Ruthie

> Yes - it sounds like you are doing everything you can do.

> Is there a feeling of sadness about sorting out the Further Ed of

> your final child? I feel tearful enough at the thought of Joe

starting

> school soon (and I'll have to go through it again in 5 years time)

> but it must be quite hard with your eighth child! Vent as much as

> you like - we are here to listen (even if we don't always have an

> answer!)

> Caroline

Thanks :) He seems to be reconciling himself more and more to going

to Rabbi M's yeshivah, he's just gone off to play basketball with the

yeshivah students tonight. Maybe he won't even want us to try and

get him into sixth form in the end, who knows...

I will feel very sad if he is so far away from home..at least Tavya

and Dov will be in Jerusalem to keep an eye on him for the first

year. He's so young :(

Ruthie

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In article <002801c12c10$48a423a0$db44063e@hannah>, Hannah Hamer

hannah-louise@...> writes

>Does everyone else remember getting their GCSE/O level results? How did

>your families celebrate/commiserate?

Don't remember any great jubilation at mine, but dsd1 (17), who retook

her maths this year 'couldn't be bothered to go all the way down to the

college to get her result', to quote dh, so will find out whether she

has passed it if/when it turns up in the post...

Cath

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Ruthie, maybe that will be the best thing for him, going to yeshivah, and

probably do you all some good to spend some time apart? You will be a lot

more relaxed at home and look forward to seeing him when he's home for

holidays, etc. There will be much less stress and more time to spend with

your DH ;o))

At least you have plenty of family around to keep an eye on him in case of

any problems which is far better than sending him somewhere where there's no

one for you to call on. It sounds like a great solution for all of you and

I bet he grows up quite a lot over the next few months. Still, I can't

imagine sending any one of my three away for a week, let alone half way

round the world so I'm sure it will be tough for you all.

{{{HUGS}}}

Hannah

Thanks :) He seems to be reconciling himself more and more to going

to Rabbi M's yeshivah, he's just gone off to play basketball with the

yeshivah students tonight. Maybe he won't even want us to try and

get him into sixth form in the end, who knows...

I will feel very sad if he is so far away from home..at least Tavya

and Dov will be in Jerusalem to keep an eye on him for the first

year. He's so young :(

Ruthie

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