Re: Re: Vitamin A Adverse Reactions?

[Guest guest]

> Are you taking Vitamin E? I read something somewhere (sorry I can't

> quote the source) that said that if you were taking CLO that it was

> very important to also be taking a good Vitamin E source, either wheat

> germ oil or vitamin E.

Oh-oh, no, I'm not taking Vitamin E. Thank you for the heads up. I've

heard good things about wheat germ oil, I think I'm going to give it

a try.

> I don't know which 4 brands you've tried, but I've been happy with the

> Green Pastures brand Blue Ice Pure CLO. However, I did have to build

> up my dose very slowly.

The latest brand I tried was NOW Vitamin A, 25,000 U/Serving (from CLO),

and I still felt awful after just 3 days taking it. 8(

Thank you for the reply, I'm going to try your suggestions.

Cheers,

Vince.

[Guest guest]

> Are you taking Vitamin E? I read something somewhere (sorry I can't

> quote the source) that said that if you were taking CLO that it was

> very important to also be taking a good Vitamin E source, either wheat

> germ oil or vitamin E.

Oh-oh, no, I'm not taking Vitamin E. Thank you for the heads up. I've

heard good things about wheat germ oil, I think I'm going to give it

a try.

> I don't know which 4 brands you've tried, but I've been happy with the

> Green Pastures brand Blue Ice Pure CLO. However, I did have to build

> up my dose very slowly.

The latest brand I tried was NOW Vitamin A, 25,000 U/Serving (from CLO),

and I still felt awful after just 3 days taking it. 8(

Thank you for the reply, I'm going to try your suggestions.

Cheers,

Vince.

[Guest guest]

> Is it only CLO that does that to you?

Well, I have not tried any other forms of Vit A,

I'm not sure what else is recommended by Andy aside

from Vit A derived from CLO. Vit A Palmitate maybe?

> Have you tried different brands?

I have tried 4 brands of Vitamin A. The latest being

NOW Vitamin A Softgels, 25,000 U/Serving (from CLO). It

also made me fell awful after 3 days.

I can feel my body asking me for Vit A, my eyesight is going

bad and I'm not sure what to do.

Does anybody have any experience taking Vitamin A from

Alpha/Beta Carotene. My understanding is that the

CLO form is superior to the Carotene one. I don-no. 8(

I feel fantastic when I drink fresh squeezed carrot juice,

however is too expensive to do regularly.

Suggestions welcomed.

Vince.

[Guest guest]

In frequent-dose-chelation Freeman wrote:

> Is it only CLO that does that to you?

------------Nordic Naturals is a very good brand of CLO.---------Jackie

Well, I have not tried any other forms of Vit A,

I'm not sure what else is recommended by Andy aside

from Vit A derived from CLO. Vit A Palmitate maybe?

----------Andy talks about Vit A on page 165 of AI. He says, " People with low

thyroid also do not adequately convert beta carotene to Vit A. " He doesn't

recommend a type. But you may also want to read pages 100-101 about Fatty Acids

or EFA's, especially the first paragraph in second column on page 101, and see

if anything applies to you.

I'm busy right now and don't have time to go searching, but I would suggest

you search archives, including A-M, because seems like I remember discussions

about different types of Vit A, mycelized? perhaps, and also something about

needing a loading dose of something ( maybe omega 6's?) before tolerate omega

3's? There might be info at that danasview.com website about this. She's a

member of A-M.------Jackie

> Have you tried different brands?

I have tried 4 brands of Vitamin A. The latest being

NOW Vitamin A Softgels, 25,000 U/Serving (from CLO). It

also made me fell awful after 3 days.

----------I tolerate my Vit A capsules just fine, so I'm not much help

here.-------Jackie

I can feel my body asking me for Vit A, my eyesight is going

bad and I'm not sure what to do.

Does anybody have any experience taking Vitamin A from

Alpha/Beta Carotene. My understanding is that the

CLO form is superior to the Carotene one. I don-no. 8(

I feel fantastic when I drink fresh squeezed carrot juice,

however is too expensive to do regularly.

-------------I had a niece who went through a carrot spell, she would eat them

raw and or juiced all the time, even for breakfast, because she was craving them

all the time. She did finally get over it. So you must be craving something in

them, and this is probably a good thing, so do it as much as you

can.-----------Jackiie

-----------Did you know you can use/eat the carrot pulp too? My sister makes

carrot salad, I think all she adds is olive oil and lemon juice, like a tsp or

tblsp of each. It tastes really good.-----------Jackie

Suggestions welcomed.

Vince.

[Guest guest]

In frequent-dose-chelation Freeman wrote:

> Is it only CLO that does that to you?

------------Nordic Naturals is a very good brand of CLO.---------Jackie

Well, I have not tried any other forms of Vit A,

I'm not sure what else is recommended by Andy aside

from Vit A derived from CLO. Vit A Palmitate maybe?

----------Andy talks about Vit A on page 165 of AI. He says, " People with low

thyroid also do not adequately convert beta carotene to Vit A. " He doesn't

recommend a type. But you may also want to read pages 100-101 about Fatty Acids

or EFA's, especially the first paragraph in second column on page 101, and see

if anything applies to you.

I'm busy right now and don't have time to go searching, but I would suggest

you search archives, including A-M, because seems like I remember discussions

about different types of Vit A, mycelized? perhaps, and also something about

needing a loading dose of something ( maybe omega 6's?) before tolerate omega

3's? There might be info at that danasview.com website about this. She's a

member of A-M.------Jackie

> Have you tried different brands?

I have tried 4 brands of Vitamin A. The latest being

NOW Vitamin A Softgels, 25,000 U/Serving (from CLO). It

also made me fell awful after 3 days.

----------I tolerate my Vit A capsules just fine, so I'm not much help

here.-------Jackie

I can feel my body asking me for Vit A, my eyesight is going

bad and I'm not sure what to do.

Does anybody have any experience taking Vitamin A from

Alpha/Beta Carotene. My understanding is that the

CLO form is superior to the Carotene one. I don-no. 8(

I feel fantastic when I drink fresh squeezed carrot juice,

however is too expensive to do regularly.

-------------I had a niece who went through a carrot spell, she would eat them

raw and or juiced all the time, even for breakfast, because she was craving them

all the time. She did finally get over it. So you must be craving something in

them, and this is probably a good thing, so do it as much as you

can.-----------Jackiie

-----------Did you know you can use/eat the carrot pulp too? My sister makes

carrot salad, I think all she adds is olive oil and lemon juice, like a tsp or

tblsp of each. It tastes really good.-----------Jackie

Suggestions welcomed.

Vince.

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Now that you mention it, I think Vitamin A

metabolism seems to be related to Mercury

burden. I remember a few years back, before

I knew I was mercury poisoned, I started

taking Vitamin A and felt like I was about

to die. Maybe I need to chelate more

before supplementing with Vitamin A.

Thank for the reply.

Cheers,

Vince.

On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 22:39:18 -0000

" mmc2315 " m.chelap@...> wrote:

> Hi Vince, my suggestion would be try to get the Vitamin A through tablets or

capsules, not

> the CLO, and see if that makes a difference.

>

> My youngest kid would get mean on CLO. We were using Nordic Naturals liquid,

orange

> flavored.

>

> I don't know if she would have the same reaction today though. We're almost

70 rounds in.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

----- Original Message -----

From: mmc2315

I have read of other kids having a negative reaction to CLO on A-M, but I've

never understood

the reason why.

====>Most likely it's an inability to absorb fats properly or a fatty acid

imbalance that causes this. Some people find if they use Acetyl-L-Carnitine with

the CLO, it helps.

Another treatment is to preload with substantial amounts of EPO for awhile,

6-8 weeks and then reintroduce the CLO.

Either way, meanness in response to CLO means something is not quite right

with a person's fatty acid balance.

[Guest guest]

----- Original Message -----

From: mmc2315

I have read of other kids having a negative reaction to CLO on A-M, but I've

never understood

the reason why.

====>Most likely it's an inability to absorb fats properly or a fatty acid

imbalance that causes this. Some people find if they use Acetyl-L-Carnitine with

the CLO, it helps.

Another treatment is to preload with substantial amounts of EPO for awhile,

6-8 weeks and then reintroduce the CLO.

Either way, meanness in response to CLO means something is not quite right

with a person's fatty acid balance.

[Guest guest]

In frequent-dose-chelation mmc2315 wrote:

wrote:

>

> Another treatment is to preload with substantial amounts of EPO for awhile,

6-8 weeks

and then reintroduce the CLO.

, what's EPO?

---------I think she meant EPA. CLO contains both DHA and EPA, so there may

be an imbalance of these in the body that needs to be corrected before CLO is

tolerated.----------Jackie

wrote:

> Either way, meanness in response to CLO means something is not quite right

with a

>person's fatty acid balance.

I've never heard of this, interesting. You mean Omega 3s and 6s?

--------Yes, I think this is what she means. I think it is discussed more on

the A-M board, and I couldn't remember the details, so thanks ! I think

Andy discusses some of this on pages 100-101 of AI, but I think there is much

more about it over at A-M.----------Jackie

[Guest guest]

Marcia is right and makes a good point. You may want to read about the high

dose Vit A protocol and also read and print out the Viral File over at A-M.

Under " What are possible treatments? " , she talks about how symptoms from an

anti-viral protocol can be worse than chelating. I do believe that there is

some connection with mercury poisoning and having lingering viral problems. I

truly believe this is part of my problem also. I don't know if it's a problem

for everyone, but for me, taking lots of things to boost my immune system I

believe has been very helpful. I should try more of the anti-viral protocol

things, but I am currently taking 25,000 IU of Vit A per day, with no ill

effects. Here are links to a couple of posts by Andy that I have printed out

and keep handy. Gives some tips on what to take when you're sick.--------Jackie

http://onibasu.com/archives/am/78179.html

http://onibasu.com/archives/am/133461.html

In frequent-dose-chelation Marcia wrote:

Vitamin A can also kick start the immune system if taken in high doses and

cause latent low grade infections to start being dealt with and causing die off

symptoms. If you are dealing with mercury and chelating already, I'm not sure

this is something you'd want to add if you are having this reaction. Maybe eat a

handful of baby carrots every day, try to get it naturally.

Marcia

Hi ,

Now that you mention it, I think Vitamin A

metabolism seems to be related to Mercury

burden. I remember a few years back, before

I knew I was mercury poisoned, I started

taking Vitamin A and felt like I was about

to die. Maybe I need to chelate more

before supplementing with Vitamin A.

Thanks for the reply.

Cheers,

Vince.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for this , I couldn't remember the details, but I knew I had heard

something about this on A-M, and was hoping one of you would straighten us

out!---------Jackie

In frequent-dose-chelation Ladyshrink111@... wrote:

----- Original Message -----

From: mmc2315

I have read of other kids having a negative reaction to CLO on A-M, but I've

never understood

the reason why.

====>Most likely it's an inability to absorb fats properly or a fatty acid

imbalance that causes this. Some people find if they use Acetyl-L-Carnitine with

the CLO, it helps.

Another treatment is to preload with substantial amounts of EPO for awhile,

6-8 weeks and then reintroduce the CLO.

---------I think she means EPA, not EPO. CLO has DHA and EPA in it, and the

balance may be off.--------Jackie

Either way, meanness in response to CLO means something is not quite right

with a person's fatty acid balance.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for this , I couldn't remember the details, but I knew I had heard

something about this on A-M, and was hoping one of you would straighten us

out!---------Jackie

In frequent-dose-chelation Ladyshrink111@... wrote:

----- Original Message -----

From: mmc2315

I have read of other kids having a negative reaction to CLO on A-M, but I've

never understood

the reason why.

====>Most likely it's an inability to absorb fats properly or a fatty acid

imbalance that causes this. Some people find if they use Acetyl-L-Carnitine with

the CLO, it helps.

Another treatment is to preload with substantial amounts of EPO for awhile,

6-8 weeks and then reintroduce the CLO.

---------I think she means EPA, not EPO. CLO has DHA and EPA in it, and the

balance may be off.--------Jackie

Either way, meanness in response to CLO means something is not quite right

with a person's fatty acid balance.