Re: To Andy - Mercury, brain, and psychological symptoms

[Guest guest]

Hi Ken,

We never know when Andy will have time to visit us here. In the past

he has asked people who want him to answer to send a copy of the post

number, to him in private email.

There are some other things you missed telling us in your post... see

below.....

>

> Hi Andy --

> Thanks do much for this forum.

> I'd like to get some expert help.

> I've had dental fillings since the age of 5. Every 8 or 9 years or so

> since the age of 17, I'd go through a period of a year or so with

> mercury-like symptoms in my brain -- burning brain, light-headedness,

> depression, and a feeling like the world was closing in (also bouts of

> sudden anger, suicidal thoughts -- the whole 9 yards). In between

> these periods I was fine -- felt great and had perfect health.

>

> In Jan 2005, at the age of 53. my health collapsed and I've been on a

> continuous cycle of brain-mercury symptoms. In Jan 2006, I finally

> understood that my symptoms were mercury related and I got my amalgam

> removed in Montreal by Dr. Benoit, a student of Hal Huggins. After

> that, I got worse, because the mercury was moving out of my brain. In

> Jan 2007, still with mercury symptoms, I discovered Rife machines, and

> began removing heavy metals from my body.

I could not chelate with ALA

> or DMSA because my symptoms would become unbearable.

What doses of DMSA and ALA were you using? Most people start with

doses that are too high for them (according to ) and all they

have to do is drop the dose to be more comfortable.

Also, were you using the support supplements that Andy recommends in

" Amalgam Illness " ? Which supplements did you take and doses and which

ones did you skip?

Were you using DMSA and ALA every 3 h? DMSA can be taken at 4 h

intervals but ALA must be taken at 3 h intervals or more frequently.

To make a long

> story short, I have been gradually getting better this summer (2007)

> fter beginning ALA chelation (3 days on, 11 days off).

What dose, what timing, what supplements.

One summer is not long enough to chelate. It takes years for most.

I have now done

> 9 rounds and was getting to the point where I thought I was about

> through.

At 9 rounds you have just scratched the surface.

Then, after my last round on Sunday, I began to feel bad

> again. By Thursday, my brain symptoms were back full blown.

When you answer the questions above we will have some clues to help.

So I'm

> confused. (I've also been taking a neutraceutical which is replacing

> minerals and nutrients in my body,

What is the neutraceutical?

You really need to have at least the basic, core supplements

recommended in Amalgam Illness. The basics are really not that much.

Some need extras depending on what other problems have developed.

Do you have a copy of Amalgam Illness? www.noamalgam.com

and really helping with my energy

> levels)

>

> I'm almost sure I've eliminated mercury from the rest of my body --

> taking DMSA 25 mg every 3 hours for 3 days and nights last summer

> (urine test) showed 0 mercury and a little lead.

A urine test isn't going to tell you what is left in your body. What

were your symptoms like with DMSA 25 mg q 3 h and at the end of

rounds. Did you try a round with increased DMSA?

My health is better

> -- but my brain symptoms are frightening.

> I've been running parasites out with the Rife machine, and

> I am going to run Lyme disease just to make sure it isn't that.

>

> My question is, is it possible to get such a strong reaction after

> making such a big improvement with ALA?

You mean, is it possible to get such a strong reaction with ALA after

a short time chelating with DMSA.

If so, if this is just a

> " dump " then I can bear with it and continue ALA. I assume that it's

> best to wait until symptoms go away to start another round of ALA?

> I couldn't stand to feel any worse in my head than I already do.

>

When did you stop this last round of ALA and how are you feeling now.

Sounds like you may have to go to a lower dose of ALA and include

DMSA with it for several rounds.

With the kind of symptoms you are describing it will be a couple of

years before chelation is done. You need to chelate until you no

longer get symptoms at increasing doses of chelators, especially ALA,

and then some more for good measure.

J

> Your patience and help is greatly appreciated.

>

> Sincerely,

> Ken MacLean

>

[Guest guest]

Hi -- Thanks for your reply.

I started on 10 mg or less of ALA, then worked up to 25mg. I was

getting better and better, so I was very surprised when I got this

reaction. I didn't notice much during this recent ALA chelation, so I

thought everything was fine. Then a couple of days later, wham! I took

ALA every three hours as Andy recommends, including during the night.

Almost all of my symptoms are in my brain. Using Rife machine and

supplements, I have pretty much re-gained the rest of my health back.

I am using Eniva Vibe, which is combination of Amino acids, minerals

and vitamins. I am also taking Essential Fatty acids like Omega 3's, 2

grams per day.

I use ALA because, again, my symptoms are in my brain. Andy is quite

clear that ALA is the only substance that will get rid of mercury in

the brain. My understanding is that DMSA doesn't get past the

blood-brain barrier.

I have a copy of Amalgam Illness but I will re-read to get proper

supplement dose. I don't want to over-chelate. Using DMSA and ALA

might be too much, so I've stuck with the ALA

I think you are right that I should cut back dosage.

One question: Is it better to to wait until brain symptoms recede

before trying another chelation? I am scheduled for another next

Friday, but if I still feel like this I think it's better to wait.

I will re-read Andy's book again, and thanks for your response.

:-) Ken

> >

> > Hi Andy --

> > Thanks do much for this forum.

> > I'd like to get some expert help.

> > I've had dental fillings since the age of 5. Every 8 or 9 years or so

> > since the age of 17, I'd go through a period of a year or so with

> > mercury-like symptoms in my brain -- burning brain, light-headedness,

> > depression, and a feeling like the world was closing in (also bouts of

> > sudden anger, suicidal thoughts -- the whole 9 yards). In between

> > these periods I was fine -- felt great and had perfect health.

> >

> > In Jan 2005, at the age of 53. my health collapsed and I've been on a

> > continuous cycle of brain-mercury symptoms. In Jan 2006, I finally

> > understood that my symptoms were mercury related and I got my amalgam

> > removed in Montreal by Dr. Benoit, a student of Hal Huggins. After

> > that, I got worse, because the mercury was moving out of my brain. In

> > Jan 2007, still with mercury symptoms, I discovered Rife machines, and

> > began removing heavy metals from my body.

>

> I could not chelate with ALA

> > or DMSA because my symptoms would become unbearable.

>

>

>

> What doses of DMSA and ALA were you using? Most people start with

> doses that are too high for them (according to ) and all they

> have to do is drop the dose to be more comfortable.

>

> Also, were you using the support supplements that Andy recommends in

> " Amalgam Illness " ? Which supplements did you take and doses and which

> ones did you skip?

>

> Were you using DMSA and ALA every 3 h? DMSA can be taken at 4 h

> intervals but ALA must be taken at 3 h intervals or more frequently.

>

>

>

> To make a long

> > story short, I have been gradually getting better this summer (2007)

> > fter beginning ALA chelation (3 days on, 11 days off).

>

>

>

>

> What dose, what timing, what supplements.

>

> One summer is not long enough to chelate. It takes years for most.

>

>

>

> I have now done

> > 9 rounds and was getting to the point where I thought I was about

> > through.

>

>

>

> At 9 rounds you have just scratched the surface.

>

>

>

>

>

> Then, after my last round on Sunday, I began to feel bad

> > again. By Thursday, my brain symptoms were back full blown.

>

>

>

> When you answer the questions above we will have some clues to help.

>

>

>

>

> So I'm

> > confused. (I've also been taking a neutraceutical which is replacing

> > minerals and nutrients in my body,

>

>

>

> What is the neutraceutical?

>

> You really need to have at least the basic, core supplements

> recommended in Amalgam Illness. The basics are really not that much.

> Some need extras depending on what other problems have developed.

>

> Do you have a copy of Amalgam Illness? www.noamalgam.com

>

>

>

>

>

>

> and really helping with my energy

> > levels)

> >

> > I'm almost sure I've eliminated mercury from the rest of my body --

> > taking DMSA 25 mg every 3 hours for 3 days and nights last summer

>

> > (urine test) showed 0 mercury and a little lead.

>

>

>

> A urine test isn't going to tell you what is left in your body. What

> were your symptoms like with DMSA 25 mg q 3 h and at the end of

> rounds. Did you try a round with increased DMSA?

>

>

>

> My health is better

> > -- but my brain symptoms are frightening.

> > I've been running parasites out with the Rife machine, and

> > I am going to run Lyme disease just to make sure it isn't that.

> >

> > My question is, is it possible to get such a strong reaction after

> > making such a big improvement with ALA?

>

>

>

> You mean, is it possible to get such a strong reaction with ALA after

> a short time chelating with DMSA.

>

>

>

>

>

> If so, if this is just a

> > " dump " then I can bear with it and continue ALA. I assume that it's

> > best to wait until symptoms go away to start another round of ALA?

> > I couldn't stand to feel any worse in my head than I already do.

> >

>

>

>

> When did you stop this last round of ALA and how are you feeling now.

> Sounds like you may have to go to a lower dose of ALA and include

> DMSA with it for several rounds.

>

> With the kind of symptoms you are describing it will be a couple of

> years before chelation is done. You need to chelate until you no

> longer get symptoms at increasing doses of chelators, especially ALA,

> and then some more for good measure.

>

> J

>

>

>

> > Your patience and help is greatly appreciated.

> >

> > Sincerely,

> > Ken MacLean

> >

>

[Guest guest]

ly I'm not sure what to say. I'd need more details of what is actually

happening, but

9 cycles of ALA isn't going to get your brain all cleared up. Don't know whta

the bounce is

from. Don't suppose you have any mainstream evaluation of it?

Andy

>

> Hi Andy --

> Thanks do much for this forum.

> I'd like to get some expert help.

> I've had dental fillings since the age of 5. Every 8 or 9 years or so

> since the age of 17, I'd go through a period of a year or so with

> mercury-like symptoms in my brain -- burning brain, light-headedness,

> depression, and a feeling like the world was closing in (also bouts of

> sudden anger, suicidal thoughts -- the whole 9 yards). In between

> these periods I was fine -- felt great and had perfect health.

>

> In Jan 2005, at the age of 53. my health collapsed and I've been on a

> continuous cycle of brain-mercury symptoms. In Jan 2006, I finally

> understood that my symptoms were mercury related and I got my amalgam

> removed in Montreal by Dr. Benoit, a student of Hal Huggins. After

> that, I got worse, because the mercury was moving out of my brain. In

> Jan 2007, still with mercury symptoms, I discovered Rife machines, and

> began removing heavy metals from my body. I could not chelate with ALA

> or DMSA because my symptoms would become unbearable. To make a long

> story short, I have been gradually getting better this summer (2007)

> fter beginning ALA chelation (3 days on, 11 days off). I have now done

> 9 rounds and was getting to the point where I thought I was about

> through. Then, after my last round on Sunday, I began to feel bad

> again. By Thursday, my brain symptoms were back full blown. So I'm

> confused. (I've also been taking a neutraceutical which is replacing

> minerals and nutrients in my body, and really helping with my energy

> levels)

>

> I'm almost sure I've eliminated mercury from the rest of my body --

> taking DMSA 25 mg every 3 hours for 3 days and nights last summer

> (urine test) showed 0 mercury and a little lead. My health is better

> -- but my brain symptoms are frightening.

> I've been running parasites out with the Rife machine, and

> I am going to run Lyme disease just to make sure it isn't that.

>

> My question is, is it possible to get such a strong reaction after

> making such a big improvement with ALA? If so, if this is just a

> " dump " then I can bear with it and continue ALA. I assume that it's

> best to wait until symptoms go away to start another round of ALA?

> I couldn't stand to feel any worse in my head than I already do.

>

> Your patience and help is greatly appreciated.

>

> Sincerely,

> Ken MacLean

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Andy and all --

I am taking Andy's book as the way to go, am re-reading it.

I don't want to bother Andy with my incessant questions, so feel free to

respond, forum members.

Two more questions:

1) I have been doing 3 days on ALA, working up to 25 mg, and 7 days off,

for 9 rounds. With recurrence of symptoms in brain, would it be better

to continue the 3 days on, 7 days off and lower dosage, or go on a 3 day

on, 4 day off (1 round per week) with lower dosage?

I will also do ALA + DMSA from now on.

2) I have an ozonating device that makes ozonated water and ozonated

air. Have been using this for 2 months, I usually feel more energetic

afterwards, although I do sometimes feel light-headed during the

procedure. Question is, is oxygenating the body harmful for mercury

poisoned patients? I can't imagine that it would be, but I wanted to check.

More details:

I've been under the care of a physician for over a year, who has

experience detoxing mercury patients, but she hasn't read your book.

Good gal though.

Have been supplementing regularly.

Had my amalgam out Feb 2006, got much worse for 3 months, then

stabilized at a level where I didn't feel good. Dentist said mercury was

dumping out of my brain that's why I felt worse. I entirely agreed with him.

Being very sensitive to ALA and DMSA, I tried to chelate after amalgam

removal but felt so rotten I stopped. 16 months after amalgam removal,

I started chelation. Felt better and better as the rounds progressed,

until now. Feel like old symptoms are back.

Have had 2 hair analysis and one DMSA blood test (using Andy's protocol

of low, regular frequent dosage), none showed elevated levels of

mercury, but I have all the symptoms.

Did tests in Andy's book and tested positive at 99.5% level for mercury

symptoms.

Thanks so much for all your help!

:-) Ken MacLean

http://www.kjmaclean.com/

http://www.thevibrationaluniverse.com/

[Guest guest]

Hi --

I have " psychiatric " symptoms, as Andy calls them in his book, as well

as the normal anxiety, short term memory loss, depression (milder

now), etc. associated with mercury poisoning. Tests show no copper

poisoning. As I continue on chelation, I notice episodes of feeling

horrible lessen in duration, so it's working (gradually).

I feel OK during rounds; sometimes a little light-headed and a little

brain fog, but mostly symptoms occur 1 -3 days after chelation and may

continue until the next round, as it is doing now. I was doing better

for the past 2 months, gradually increasing dosages from 12 mg to 25

mg until this latest episode, so I will assume that I need to cut back.

I will have to continue experimenting with the oxygen; until yesterday

it seemed to be helping.

Question: I cannot find ALA in doses under 100mg. I have a pill cutter

that allows me to get 25mg, by cutting the tablet in quarters, but

the pill crumbles if I try to go lower. Do you know of any supplier

that provides ALA in smaller dosages? Either tablet or capsule is OK

with me.

:-) Ken MacLean

> >

> > Hi Andy and all --

> > I am taking Andy's book as the way to go, am re-reading it.

> > I don't want to bother Andy with my incessant questions, so feel

> free to

> > respond, forum members.

> >

> > Two more questions:

> >

> > 1) I have been doing 3 days on ALA, working up to 25 mg, and 7 days

> off,

> > for 9 rounds.

>

>

>

> For many people, 25 mg is a very big dose this early in chelation.

> I suggest trying 12.5 mg for a few rounds and see if things improve.

> When you are ready to increase, a few months at 18 mg is a good idea

> before jumping to 25 mg.

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi --

>

> I have " psychiatric " symptoms, as Andy calls them in his book, as well

> as the normal anxiety, short term memory loss, depression (milder

> now), etc. associated with mercury poisoning. Tests show no copper

> poisoning. As I continue on chelation, I notice episodes of feeling

> horrible lessen in duration, so it's working (gradually).

> I feel OK during rounds; sometimes a little light-headed and a little

> brain fog, but mostly symptoms occur 1 -3 days after chelation and may

Symptoms after the end of the round are due to redistribution.

Three days is excessive and using the lower dose for awhile

should help.

> continue until the next round, as it is doing now. I was doing better

> for the past 2 months, gradually increasing dosages from 12 mg to 25

> mg until this latest episode, so I will assume that I need to cut back.

>

> I will have to continue experimenting with the oxygen; until yesterday

> it seemed to be helping.

This is certainly your choice and I can appreciate the fact that

it has positive effects. I would keep it in mind as a possible

contributing factor, though. Your worsened symptoms started after

you began this therapy and sometimes negatives can be delayed.

> Question: I cannot find ALA in doses under 100mg. I have a pill cutter

> that allows me to get 25mg, by cutting the tablet in quarters, but

> the pill crumbles if I try to go lower. Do you know of any supplier

> that provides ALA in smaller dosages? Either tablet or capsule is OK

> with me.

www.kirkmanlabs.com is the only place I know to get the 25 mg caps.

There are 50 mg tablets available. Might be Source Naturals? You

may find it by searching archives or google.

--

> :-) Ken MacLean

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks and Sathya.

I will order the 25 mg ALA from Kirkman labs.

:-) Ken

-

>

> www.kirkmanlabs.com is the only place I know to get the 25 mg caps.

>

> There are 50 mg tablets available. Might be Source Naturals? You

> may find it by searching archives or google.

>

> --

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks and Sathya.

I will order the 25 mg ALA from Kirkman labs.

:-) Ken

-

>

> www.kirkmanlabs.com is the only place I know to get the 25 mg caps.

>

> There are 50 mg tablets available. Might be Source Naturals? You

> may find it by searching archives or google.

>

> --

>