Guest guest Posted December 23, 2007 Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 In frequent-dose-chelation : robin ann wrote: i've still not received my book yet but felt, because of the information on this site that i could give the cutler protocol a whirl. i did 12.5 mg dmsa every four hours (not a minute over!) for four days and except for some initial bloating (which i eliminated by letting the dmsa powder dissolve in my mouth rather than simply swallowing it,) i felt pretty good. i stopped the 4 day round last night. today i took a wonderful sweaty hour long sauna and, although i feel a little bit weird, fuzzy headed and slightly achy, i think the protocol worked pretty well for me. something was definitely happening... a conceptual question occurred to me; since the biggest problem is this last day of the round, this day of freed-up mercury redistribution, wouldn't it help to, say, four hours after the last dose of dmsa, take some less " attractive " less strong chelating agent for a day, something help to wind down, something that would sort of help mop up the remaining mercury that was loosened but no longer attached to dmsa. (i visualize musical chairs here:-)) y'know, a chelating agent that isn't strong enough to pull out or dissolve metals from body tissues but would be able to maybe attach to the floating around freed-up metal before it got reabsorbed. ----------This has been discussed before numerous times, to taper off at the end of the round, and the consensus is that it will just prolong the inevitable redistribution. So my understanding is that Andy still feels it is best to just end the round. As long as you are chelating at a reasonable dose for yourself (and taking recommended supplements), then end of the round symptoms and redistribution should be manageable. One thing you can do to limit the number of end-of-round redistribution events, is to possibly do longer rounds, if you tolerate them. But it would probably be best for you to do a few rounds at the same dose and length, just to make sure you are tolerating it fine and getting the knack of chelation and what it feels like. So congratulations on your first round being a success!---------Jackie i told you it was a conceptual question :-) ~robin ps btw thank you for running this site, very helpful! ---------Yes there are some wonderful people here, and I would be lost without this site and their support. You're in the right place!---------Jackie _._,_.___ Messages in this topic (1) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages MARKETPLACE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Earn your degree in as few as 2 years - Advance your career with an AS, BS, MS degree - College-Finder.net. Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Recent Activity a.. 9New Members Visit Your Group Yahoo! Health Live Better Longer Find new ways to stay healthy. Yahoo! Groups Healthy Eating Zone Encouraging families to eat healthy. Best of Y! Groups Check out the best of what Yahoo! Groups has to offer. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2007 Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 In frequent-dose-chelation : robin ann wrote: i've still not received my book yet but felt, because of the information on this site that i could give the cutler protocol a whirl. i did 12.5 mg dmsa every four hours (not a minute over!) for four days and except for some initial bloating (which i eliminated by letting the dmsa powder dissolve in my mouth rather than simply swallowing it,) i felt pretty good. i stopped the 4 day round last night. today i took a wonderful sweaty hour long sauna and, although i feel a little bit weird, fuzzy headed and slightly achy, i think the protocol worked pretty well for me. something was definitely happening... a conceptual question occurred to me; since the biggest problem is this last day of the round, this day of freed-up mercury redistribution, wouldn't it help to, say, four hours after the last dose of dmsa, take some less " attractive " less strong chelating agent for a day, something help to wind down, something that would sort of help mop up the remaining mercury that was loosened but no longer attached to dmsa. (i visualize musical chairs here:-)) y'know, a chelating agent that isn't strong enough to pull out or dissolve metals from body tissues but would be able to maybe attach to the floating around freed-up metal before it got reabsorbed. ----------This has been discussed before numerous times, to taper off at the end of the round, and the consensus is that it will just prolong the inevitable redistribution. So my understanding is that Andy still feels it is best to just end the round. As long as you are chelating at a reasonable dose for yourself (and taking recommended supplements), then end of the round symptoms and redistribution should be manageable. One thing you can do to limit the number of end-of-round redistribution events, is to possibly do longer rounds, if you tolerate them. But it would probably be best for you to do a few rounds at the same dose and length, just to make sure you are tolerating it fine and getting the knack of chelation and what it feels like. So congratulations on your first round being a success!---------Jackie i told you it was a conceptual question :-) ~robin ps btw thank you for running this site, very helpful! ---------Yes there are some wonderful people here, and I would be lost without this site and their support. You're in the right place!---------Jackie _._,_.___ Messages in this topic (1) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages MARKETPLACE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Earn your degree in as few as 2 years - Advance your career with an AS, BS, MS degree - College-Finder.net. Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Recent Activity a.. 9New Members Visit Your Group Yahoo! Health Live Better Longer Find new ways to stay healthy. Yahoo! Groups Healthy Eating Zone Encouraging families to eat healthy. Best of Y! Groups Check out the best of what Yahoo! Groups has to offer. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2007 Report Share Posted December 24, 2007 > > i did 12.5 mg dmsa every four hours (not a minute over!) for four days > > a conceptual question occurred to me; since the biggest problem is > this last day of the round, this day of freed-up mercury > redistribution, wouldn't it help to, say, four hours after the last > dose of dmsa, take some less " attractive " less strong chelating agent > for a day, something help to wind down, something that would sort of > help mop up the remaining mercury that was loosened but no longer > attached to dmsa. TK--- No, for the resaons stated below by Jackie. If you are taking two chelators ALA and dmsa or dmps one of these can be continuted after stopping the ALA which helps some people. > ----------This has been discussed before numerous times, to taper off at the end of the round, and the consensus is that it will just prolong the inevitable redistribution. So my understanding is that Andy still feels it is best to just end the round. As long as you are chelating at a reasonable dose for yourself (and taking recommended supplements), then end of the round symptoms and redistribution should be manageable. One thing you can do to limit the number of end-of-round redistribution events, is to possibly do longer rounds, if you tolerate them. But it would probably be best for you to do a few rounds at the same dose and length, just to make sure you are tolerating it fine and getting the knack of chelation and what it feels like. So congratulations on your first round being a success!---------Jackie > > > > > i told you it was a conceptual question :-) > ~robin > > ps btw thank you for running this site, very helpful! > > > ---------Yes there are some wonderful people here, and I would be lost without this site and their support. You're in the right place!- --------Jackie > > _._,_.___ > > Messages in this topic (1) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic > Messages > MARKETPLACE > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- > Earn your degree in as few as 2 years - Advance your career with an AS, BS, MS degree - College-Finder.net. > > Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) > Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional > Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Recent Activity > a.. 9New Members > Visit Your Group > Yahoo! Health > Live Better Longer > > Find new ways > > to stay healthy. > > Yahoo! Groups > Healthy Eating Zone > > Encouraging families > > to eat healthy. > > Best of Y! Groups > Check out the best > > of what Yahoo! > > Groups has to offer. > . > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2007 Report Share Posted December 24, 2007 > > i did 12.5 mg dmsa every four hours (not a minute over!) for four days > > a conceptual question occurred to me; since the biggest problem is > this last day of the round, this day of freed-up mercury > redistribution, wouldn't it help to, say, four hours after the last > dose of dmsa, take some less " attractive " less strong chelating agent > for a day, something help to wind down, something that would sort of > help mop up the remaining mercury that was loosened but no longer > attached to dmsa. TK--- No, for the resaons stated below by Jackie. If you are taking two chelators ALA and dmsa or dmps one of these can be continuted after stopping the ALA which helps some people. > ----------This has been discussed before numerous times, to taper off at the end of the round, and the consensus is that it will just prolong the inevitable redistribution. So my understanding is that Andy still feels it is best to just end the round. As long as you are chelating at a reasonable dose for yourself (and taking recommended supplements), then end of the round symptoms and redistribution should be manageable. One thing you can do to limit the number of end-of-round redistribution events, is to possibly do longer rounds, if you tolerate them. But it would probably be best for you to do a few rounds at the same dose and length, just to make sure you are tolerating it fine and getting the knack of chelation and what it feels like. So congratulations on your first round being a success!---------Jackie > > > > > i told you it was a conceptual question :-) > ~robin > > ps btw thank you for running this site, very helpful! > > > ---------Yes there are some wonderful people here, and I would be lost without this site and their support. You're in the right place!- --------Jackie > > _._,_.___ > > Messages in this topic (1) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic > Messages > MARKETPLACE > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- > Earn your degree in as few as 2 years - Advance your career with an AS, BS, MS degree - College-Finder.net. > > Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) > Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional > Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Recent Activity > a.. 9New Members > Visit Your Group > Yahoo! Health > Live Better Longer > > Find new ways > > to stay healthy. > > Yahoo! Groups > Healthy Eating Zone > > Encouraging families > > to eat healthy. > > Best of Y! Groups > Check out the best > > of what Yahoo! > > Groups has to offer. > . > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2007 Report Share Posted December 24, 2007 I once asked Andy if I could take DMSA during the day and DMPS at night in order to sleep 8 hours. He answered that it would be a disaster. He didn't elaborate, but I can imagine that each chelating agent pulls different amounts of different metals. DMPS, for example, doesn't pick up lead, so if I switched from DMSA to DMPS for the night it would probably lead to redistribution of lead. DMSA doesn't pick up as much mercury as DMPS, so every morning when I switched to DMSA, I would probably leave lots of mercury atoms to be redistributed. People have also asked if it wouldn't be better to taper off toward the end of a round, and Andy has apparently said no, that would cause more redistribution as well. Dean just completed first round. successful. have question. i've still not received my book yet but felt, because of the information on this site that i could give the cutler protocol a whirl. i did 12.5 mg dmsa every four hours (not a minute over!) for four days and except for some initial bloating (which i eliminated by letting the dmsa powder dissolve in my mouth rather than simply swallowing it,) i felt pretty good. i stopped the 4 day round last night. today i took a wonderful sweaty hour long sauna and, although i feel a little bit weird, fuzzy headed and slightly achy, i think the protocol worked pretty well for me. something was definitely happening... a conceptual question occurred to me; since the biggest problem is this last day of the round, this day of freed-up mercury redistribution, wouldn't it help to, say, four hours after the last dose of dmsa, take some less " attractive " less strong chelating agent for a day, something help to wind down, something that would sort of help mop up the remaining mercury that was loosened but no longer attached to dmsa. (i visualize musical chairs here:-)) y'know, a chelating agent that isn't strong enough to pull out or dissolve metals from body tissues but would be able to maybe attach to the floating around freed-up metal before it got reabsorbed. i told you it was a conceptual question :-) ~robin ps btw thank you for running this site, very helpful! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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