Re: question about anger, Help

[Guest guest]

I feel like breaking things,

> telling people to bug off. Anyone know what I mean???? I dont like

> this feeling, help.

>

Anger was my biggest problem. Bottom line: only 2 years of

chelation managed it. I've tried GABA, melatonin, lots of magnesium,

and Taurine. Just recently, I've tried Lithium and believe it may

help, but my problem is nearly resolved anyway.

I lost a fiance that I dearly adored because I went into a sudden

rage and told her off one day. My current wife has put up with the

same thing, but now that we believe the mercury thing, she can see

the pattern. (Although we've been driven to counseling due to our

fights.)I've put my toddler's birthday cake on the ceiling and down a

wall, put holes in the drywall, and broken many dishes.

The key is to avoid what aggravates anger. I saw a pattern with

raising doses too quickly. It took me 1.5 years to get from 25mg to

37.5mg of ALA. After a couple months of 37.5, I went to 50 mg and

now feel great. Yeast played a huge role for me as well. My wife

actually feared sugar because of what it did to me mentally. She

would tackle me and take food away from me if I cheated on the diet.

It doesn't help to have a grumpy spouse or mouthy kids either. Do

whatevery you can to avoid arguments (Yes, you have an excuse to be

angry but it's not worth the damage).

My sympathies,

[Guest guest]

In frequent-dose-chelation email4ebay2005 wrote:

Hello,

I am on my 5th month of chelation,

----------Are you also 5 months post amalgams? If so, then I think you have

to remember that you are in the *hump* as described on page 52 of AI. Things

will naturally be worse during this period of time.-----------Jackie

chelating usually weekly for 3

days on ,4 days off at 12.5 mg of ala and dmsa. This time around a

felt the most intense anger, just in a bad bad mood. I actually has a

fight with both my teen and my hubby in one day. This was very

unpleasant and today, day 3 after stopping(stopped on wed at 1 am)I am

still angry. What can I take to help, I am on most suggested

supplements by andy.I take gaba and it doesnt seem to anything for

anger. I dotn do well on bach flower essenses( feels like I am out of

my body) Has anyone experienced this? I feel like breaking things,

telling people to bug off. Anyone know what I mean???? I dont like

this feeling, help.

-----------Hopefully it will pass, but if it makes you feel any better, I have

gone through a range of emotions at different times throughout this process.

Sometimes I'm very irritable and angry, and sometimes I have just had a good

cry, and sometimes for no good reason. It may just all be part of the process.

I wish I was more help!---------Jackie

[Guest guest]

In frequent-dose-chelation email4ebay2005 wrote:

Hello,

I am on my 5th month of chelation,

----------Are you also 5 months post amalgams? If so, then I think you have

to remember that you are in the *hump* as described on page 52 of AI. Things

will naturally be worse during this period of time.-----------Jackie

chelating usually weekly for 3

days on ,4 days off at 12.5 mg of ala and dmsa. This time around a

felt the most intense anger, just in a bad bad mood. I actually has a

fight with both my teen and my hubby in one day. This was very

unpleasant and today, day 3 after stopping(stopped on wed at 1 am)I am

still angry. What can I take to help, I am on most suggested

supplements by andy.I take gaba and it doesnt seem to anything for

anger. I dotn do well on bach flower essenses( feels like I am out of

my body) Has anyone experienced this? I feel like breaking things,

telling people to bug off. Anyone know what I mean???? I dont like

this feeling, help.

-----------Hopefully it will pass, but if it makes you feel any better, I have

gone through a range of emotions at different times throughout this process.

Sometimes I'm very irritable and angry, and sometimes I have just had a good

cry, and sometimes for no good reason. It may just all be part of the process.

I wish I was more help!---------Jackie

[Guest guest]

, thanks so much for posting this and being so honest. The emotional stuff

can be the hardest sometimes. I knew Andy mentioned something about this in AI,

so your post made me go find it.

On page 72 he writes, " The physical symptoms resolve before the emotional ones. "

And, " You are poisoned. You are not CRAZY. Sometimes you might ACT crazy until

the mercury is gone. You might even FEEL crazy while there is a bunch of

mercury banging around in your head. When it is gone, you might need some time

to cope with all the emotional baggage it left behind. "

I think we all can relate to that.---------Jackie

In frequent-dose-chelation scottinfowlerville wrote:

I feel like breaking things,

> telling people to bug off. Anyone know what I mean???? I dont like

> this feeling, help.

>

Anger was my biggest problem. Bottom line: only 2 years of

chelation managed it. I've tried GABA, melatonin, lots of magnesium,

and Taurine. Just recently, I've tried Lithium and believe it may

help, but my problem is nearly resolved anyway.

I lost a fiance that I dearly adored because I went into a sudden

rage and told her off one day. My current wife has put up with the

same thing, but now that we believe the mercury thing, she can see

the pattern. (Although we've been driven to counseling due to our

fights.)I've put my toddler's birthday cake on the ceiling and down a

wall, put holes in the drywall, and broken many dishes.

The key is to avoid what aggravates anger. I saw a pattern with

raising doses too quickly. It took me 1.5 years to get from 25mg to

37.5mg of ALA. After a couple months of 37.5, I went to 50 mg and

now feel great. Yeast played a huge role for me as well. My wife

actually feared sugar because of what it did to me mentally. She

would tackle me and take food away from me if I cheated on the diet.

It doesn't help to have a grumpy spouse or mouthy kids either. Do

whatevery you can to avoid arguments (Yes, you have an excuse to be

angry but it's not worth the damage).

My sympathies,

[Guest guest]

.....OH YEAH!! I know what this feels like. It has diminished

greatly but I use to touch my children gently when I had these feels

just to prove I could make to choice of being gentle. I would feel

so angry. I had very sad moments with my oldest before I

understood.

I do know that on some rounds I have more anger than others - none as

much as I used to. Going on 5 HTP I think was what really helped.

I wish I had more helpful comments to make but I really, really do

understand your comment. At one point I no longer knew who I was.

Also Andy says that the emotional stuff you experience with ALA

usually is consistent - so some people get angry, others sad, others

depressed, etc. He says that the pattern usually stays the same and

does not get worse. (This was not written to me but said in a

consultation conversation)

You might also want to find a good cranial sacral person who does

emotional release work. I have done that before to great effect.

Hang in there.

colette

[Guest guest]

In frequent-dose-chelation cann7899 wrote:

....OH YEAH!! I know what this feels like. It has diminished

greatly but I use to touch my children gently when I had these feels

just to prove I could make to choice of being gentle. I would feel

so angry. I had very sad moments with my oldest before I

understood.

----------Wow. I had kinda forgot. You just brought me back Colette. Way

before I had a clue what was doing all of this to me, I stayed on Zoloft for

many years, because it helped to keep the *witch mom* away. That's what I

called it. It seemed to take the edge off. Otherwise, I didn't like how I was

either with my kids back then. And the funny thing was, it only happened when I

was alone with them. If someone else was there, then I would never lose it.

All of this has improved with amalgam removal, chelation, supplements, hormones,

etc. Good thing, because now they are teenagers!----------Jackie

----------It's just awful all the things mercury does to us.---------Jackie

I do know that on some rounds I have more anger than others - none as

much as I used to. Going on 5 HTP I think was what really helped.

I wish I had more helpful comments to make but I really, really do

understand your comment. At one point I no longer knew who I was.

Also Andy says that the emotional stuff you experience with ALA

usually is consistent - so some people get angry, others sad, others

depressed, etc. He says that the pattern usually stays the same and

does not get worse. (This was not written to me but said in a

consultation conversation)

-----------This is interesting, and thanks for sharing that

Colette.--------Jackie

You might also want to find a good cranial sacral person who does

emotional release work. I have done that before to great effect.

----------Also very interesting. When did you do this, before amalgam

removal, or afterwards? Did Andy suggest it?---------Jackie

Hang in there.

colette

[Guest guest]

In frequent-dose-chelation cann7899 wrote:

....OH YEAH!! I know what this feels like. It has diminished

greatly but I use to touch my children gently when I had these feels

just to prove I could make to choice of being gentle. I would feel

so angry. I had very sad moments with my oldest before I

understood.

----------Wow. I had kinda forgot. You just brought me back Colette. Way

before I had a clue what was doing all of this to me, I stayed on Zoloft for

many years, because it helped to keep the *witch mom* away. That's what I

called it. It seemed to take the edge off. Otherwise, I didn't like how I was

either with my kids back then. And the funny thing was, it only happened when I

was alone with them. If someone else was there, then I would never lose it.

All of this has improved with amalgam removal, chelation, supplements, hormones,

etc. Good thing, because now they are teenagers!----------Jackie

----------It's just awful all the things mercury does to us.---------Jackie

I do know that on some rounds I have more anger than others - none as

much as I used to. Going on 5 HTP I think was what really helped.

I wish I had more helpful comments to make but I really, really do

understand your comment. At one point I no longer knew who I was.

Also Andy says that the emotional stuff you experience with ALA

usually is consistent - so some people get angry, others sad, others

depressed, etc. He says that the pattern usually stays the same and

does not get worse. (This was not written to me but said in a

consultation conversation)

-----------This is interesting, and thanks for sharing that

Colette.--------Jackie

You might also want to find a good cranial sacral person who does

emotional release work. I have done that before to great effect.

----------Also very interesting. When did you do this, before amalgam

removal, or afterwards? Did Andy suggest it?---------Jackie

Hang in there.

colette

[Guest guest]

Oh, Ya.

Liver support, big time: taurine, glycine, lecithin and milk thistle.

And lots of anti-oxidants.

Also, consider lowering dose.

And just apologize and let them know that this may happen some more.

Can be really embarrassing sometimes. Other times, they really deserve it!

Dave.

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Sat Apr 5, 2008 2:41 pm (PDT)

Hello,

I am on my 5th month of chelation, chelating usually weekly for 3

days on ,4 days off at 12.5 mg of ala and dmsa. This time around a

felt the most intense anger, just in a bad bad mood. I actually has a

fight with both my teen and my hubby in one day. This was very

unpleasant and today, day 3 after stopping(stopped on wed at 1 am)I am

still angry. What can I take to help, I am on most suggested

supplements by andy.I take gaba and it doesnt seem to anything for

anger. I dotn do well on bach flower essenses( feels like I am out of

my body) Has anyone experienced this? I feel like breaking things,

telling people to bug off. Anyone know what I mean???? I dont like

this feeling, help.

[Guest guest]

Oh, Ya.

Liver support, big time: taurine, glycine, lecithin and milk thistle.

And lots of anti-oxidants.

Also, consider lowering dose.

And just apologize and let them know that this may happen some more.

Can be really embarrassing sometimes. Other times, they really deserve it!

Dave.

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email4ebay2005 http://profiles.yahoo.com/email4ebay2005>

Sat Apr 5, 2008 2:41 pm (PDT)

Hello,

I am on my 5th month of chelation, chelating usually weekly for 3

days on ,4 days off at 12.5 mg of ala and dmsa. This time around a

felt the most intense anger, just in a bad bad mood. I actually has a

fight with both my teen and my hubby in one day. This was very

unpleasant and today, day 3 after stopping(stopped on wed at 1 am)I am

still angry. What can I take to help, I am on most suggested

supplements by andy.I take gaba and it doesnt seem to anything for

anger. I dotn do well on bach flower essenses( feels like I am out of

my body) Has anyone experienced this? I feel like breaking things,

telling people to bug off. Anyone know what I mean???? I dont like

this feeling, help.

[Guest guest]

I would add that mindfulness meditation, after some training period,

is a very powerful tool to deal with anger and other " bad " emotions.

Maybe you would like to read " Mindfulness in Plain English " , by Bhante

H. Gunaratana. It is freely available in the web.

Warmest regards,

>

> Hello,

> I am on my 5th month of chelation, chelating usually weekly for 3

> days on ,4 days off at 12.5 mg of ala and dmsa. This time around a

> felt the most intense anger, just in a bad bad mood. I actually has a

> fight with both my teen and my hubby in one day. This was very

> unpleasant and today, day 3 after stopping(stopped on wed at 1 am)I am

> still angry. What can I take to help, I am on most suggested

> supplements by andy.I take gaba and it doesnt seem to anything for

> anger. I dotn do well on bach flower essenses( feels like I am out of

> my body) Has anyone experienced this? I feel like breaking things,

> telling people to bug off. Anyone know what I mean???? I dont like

> this feeling, help.

>

[Guest guest]

I would add that mindfulness meditation, after some training period,

is a very powerful tool to deal with anger and other " bad " emotions.

Maybe you would like to read " Mindfulness in Plain English " , by Bhante

H. Gunaratana. It is freely available in the web.

Warmest regards,

>

> Hello,

> I am on my 5th month of chelation, chelating usually weekly for 3

> days on ,4 days off at 12.5 mg of ala and dmsa. This time around a

> felt the most intense anger, just in a bad bad mood. I actually has a

> fight with both my teen and my hubby in one day. This was very

> unpleasant and today, day 3 after stopping(stopped on wed at 1 am)I am

> still angry. What can I take to help, I am on most suggested

> supplements by andy.I take gaba and it doesnt seem to anything for

> anger. I dotn do well on bach flower essenses( feels like I am out of

> my body) Has anyone experienced this? I feel like breaking things,

> telling people to bug off. Anyone know what I mean???? I dont like

> this feeling, help.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Jackie,

I am sure Andy has referred to this in either books or posts. I did

cranial during amalgam removal which took about 9 months to complete.

I also did one or two just after but lately I haven't - mostly because

I can't drive myself to a practisioner who lives just outside of

town. I am trying to find someone in town.

colette

> You might also want to find a good cranial sacral person who does

> emotional release work. I have done that before to great effect.

>

> ----------Also very interesting. When did you do this, before

amalgam removal, or afterwards? Did Andy suggest it?---------Jackie

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Jackie,

I am sure Andy has referred to this in either books or posts. I did

cranial during amalgam removal which took about 9 months to complete.

I also did one or two just after but lately I haven't - mostly because

I can't drive myself to a practisioner who lives just outside of

town. I am trying to find someone in town.

colette

> You might also want to find a good cranial sacral person who does

> emotional release work. I have done that before to great effect.

>

> ----------Also very interesting. When did you do this, before

amalgam removal, or afterwards? Did Andy suggest it?---------Jackie

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Have you tried taking 5HTP? That seems to help reduce anger

for some folks.

Sue

>

>

> >

> > Hello,

> > I am on my 5th month of chelation, chelating usually weekly for 3

> > days on ,4 days off at 12.5 mg of ala and dmsa. This time around a

> > felt the most intense anger, just in a bad bad mood. I actually has a

> > fight with both my teen and my hubby in one day. This was very

> > unpleasant and today, day 3 after stopping(stopped on wed at 1 am)I am

> > still angry. What can I take to help, I am on most suggested

> > supplements by andy.I take gaba and it doesnt seem to anything for

> > anger. I dotn do well on bach flower essenses( feels like I am out of

> > my body) Has anyone experienced this? I feel like breaking things,

> > telling people to bug off. Anyone know what I mean???? I dont like

> > this feeling, help.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Jackie,

YOu have helped by reminding me of the ups and downs. I felt like I

could hurt someone, very unpleasant for me, not comfortable with

anger in the first place. Geez I hate mercury.

>

> Hello,

> I am on my 5th month of chelation,

>

> ----------Are you also 5 months post amalgams? If so, then I

think you have to remember that you are in the *hump* as described on

page 52 of AI. Things will naturally be worse during this period of

time.-----------Jackie

>

>

>

> chelating usually weekly for 3

> days on ,4 days off at 12.5 mg of ala and dmsa. This time around a

> felt the most intense anger, just in a bad bad mood. I actually has a

> fight with both my teen and my hubby in one day. This was very

> unpleasant and today, day 3 after stopping(stopped on wed at 1 am)I am

> still angry. What can I take to help, I am on most suggested

> supplements by andy.I take gaba and it doesnt seem to anything for

> anger. I dotn do well on bach flower essenses( feels like I am out of

> my body) Has anyone experienced this? I feel like breaking things,

> telling people to bug off. Anyone know what I mean???? I dont like

> this feeling, help.

>

> -----------Hopefully it will pass, but if it makes you feel any

better, I have gone through a range of emotions at different times

throughout this process. Sometimes I'm very irritable and angry, and

sometimes I have just had a good cry, and sometimes for no good

reason. It may just all be part of the process. I wish I was more

help!---------Jackie

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

What brand of 5 HTP are you taking? I am buying it asap. I am afraid

to chelate tomorrow, maybe ill take 1 week off. Worse part my mom and

mother in law coming very soon for son's graduation for 2 months each.

This is the worst timing, I was soo calm when depressed, I feel like

I dont know myself(someone else said the same) How much of 5 htp can

I take???? thanks

>

> ....OH YEAH!! I know what this feels like. It has diminished

> greatly but I use to touch my children gently when I had these feels

> just to prove I could make to choice of being gentle. I would feel

> so angry. I had very sad moments with my oldest before I

> understood.

>

> I do know that on some rounds I have more anger than others - none as

> much as I used to. Going on 5 HTP I think was what really helped.

>

> I wish I had more helpful comments to make but I really, really do

> understand your comment. At one point I no longer knew who I was.

>

> Also Andy says that the emotional stuff you experience with ALA

> usually is consistent - so some people get angry, others sad, others

> depressed, etc. He says that the pattern usually stays the same and

> does not get worse. (This was not written to me but said in a

> consultation conversation)

>

> You might also want to find a good cranial sacral person who does

> emotional release work. I have done that before to great effect.

>

> Hang in there.

> colette

>

[Guest guest]

.....the brand of 5HTP I take Thorne Brand - Griffonia (another name

for 5HTP) I have also take NOW Brand. I take 100 mg. I worked up

from 50. I take it all at night, at bedtime....

>

> What brand of 5 HTP are you taking? I am buying it asap. I am

afraid

> to chelate tomorrow, maybe ill take 1 week off. Worse part my mom

and

> mother in law coming very soon for son's graduation for 2 months

each.

> This is the worst timing, I was soo calm when depressed, I feel

like

> I dont know myself(someone else said the same) How much of 5 htp

can

> I take???? thanks

>

>

> >

> > ....OH YEAH!! I know what this feels like. It has diminished

> > greatly but I use to touch my children gently when I had these

feels

> > just to prove I could make to choice of being gentle. I would

feel

> > so angry. I had very sad moments with my oldest before I

> > understood.

> >

> > I do know that on some rounds I have more anger than others -

none as

> > much as I used to. Going on 5 HTP I think was what really helped.

> >

> > I wish I had more helpful comments to make but I really, really

do

> > understand your comment. At one point I no longer knew who I

was.

> >

> > Also Andy says that the emotional stuff you experience with ALA

> > usually is consistent - so some people get angry, others sad,

others

> > depressed, etc. He says that the pattern usually stays the same

and

> > does not get worse. (This was not written to me but said in a

> > consultation conversation)

> >

> > You might also want to find a good cranial sacral person who does

> > emotional release work. I have done that before to great effect.

> >

> > Hang in there.

> > colette

> >

>