Guest guest Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Joyce Just don't depend on leaving the next day. Many stay longer. It's not a sign of a serious problem if you stay longer, just something with you they want to be more sure of before letting you go. Can be your breathing levels or draining or pain or a million things. I was in for four days. My VATS was on Wednesday and I came home on Sunday. Thats longer than normal but still ok. > > I talked to the surgeon yesterday and I will have th evats...multiple lobe. Don't know when but he said I will be oput the next day. I just stay over night and am gone the next morning. He said I will have som discomfort for a few weeks and cannot go in the swim pool for 4 weeks but he said it is easy and he expects no problems. Seems easy enough. Joyce Rudy AZ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Joyce Just don't depend on leaving the next day. Many stay longer. It's not a sign of a serious problem if you stay longer, just something with you they want to be more sure of before letting you go. Can be your breathing levels or draining or pain or a million things. I was in for four days. My VATS was on Wednesday and I came home on Sunday. Thats longer than normal but still ok. > > I talked to the surgeon yesterday and I will have th evats...multiple lobe. Don't know when but he said I will be oput the next day. I just stay over night and am gone the next morning. He said I will have som discomfort for a few weeks and cannot go in the swim pool for 4 weeks but he said it is easy and he expects no problems. Seems easy enough. Joyce Rudy AZ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Does anyone know WHY after anesthesia our lungs stop working??? I am so glad to be home and in my own bed but still having problems breathing. They want me to walk 10 minutes in the morning and 10 minutes in the afternoon but I cannot. I can't even get to my mail box! I can barely get to the kitchen and bathroom. I am alone here with my dogs though people do call in and ask me how I am. I'm plum worn out! I am drinking as much as I can and eating a bit but not really hungry. I just feel terrible. How often does this happen when people undergo the VATS? When my sister called in the nurse said I was critical but I had advanced pulmonary fibrosis...but how can that be???? Joyce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 WHAT DOES "VATS" STAND FOR? Ginny, IPF6-08,COPD5-98,Richmond,VA To: Breathe-Support Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 3:17:29 PMSubject: Re: VATS Sorry you had such a terrible time, Joyce. I, too, had a bad experience with the VATS, so I feel your pain. I hope you are better soon. I think it too me a couple of months before I halfway felt back to normal. I hope you recover soon. Caro From: Sher Bauman <bofus (AT) wbcable (DOT) net>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comSent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 1:56:52 PMSubject: Re: VATS Rudy... I'm sure sorry to hear about your complications with the VATS.. Do you have someone with you to care for you and feed the dogs? It's too bad there is no way of knowing BEFORE the VATS how a person may react.... Do take care. MamaSher; 70, IPF 3-06, OR. NasturtiumsDon't fret about tomorrow, God is already there! VATS Just got home from my Thursday in and out vats. The Vats almost killed me. I have been in ICU. My lungs wouldn't saturate after the surgery. I was intibated and everything on large amounts of oxygen to just maintain a 88. I am home now but very tired and weak and can barely function. I sit up and I lie down and that is about all I can do...but if you ask me now would I have the VATS it would be NO! JoyceRudyAZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 WHAT DOES "VATS" STAND FOR? Ginny, IPF6-08,COPD5-98,Richmond,VA To: Breathe-Support Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 3:17:29 PMSubject: Re: VATS Sorry you had such a terrible time, Joyce. I, too, had a bad experience with the VATS, so I feel your pain. I hope you are better soon. I think it too me a couple of months before I halfway felt back to normal. I hope you recover soon. Caro From: Sher Bauman <bofus (AT) wbcable (DOT) net>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comSent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 1:56:52 PMSubject: Re: VATS Rudy... I'm sure sorry to hear about your complications with the VATS.. Do you have someone with you to care for you and feed the dogs? It's too bad there is no way of knowing BEFORE the VATS how a person may react.... Do take care. MamaSher; 70, IPF 3-06, OR. NasturtiumsDon't fret about tomorrow, God is already there! VATS Just got home from my Thursday in and out vats. The Vats almost killed me. I have been in ICU. My lungs wouldn't saturate after the surgery. I was intibated and everything on large amounts of oxygen to just maintain a 88. I am home now but very tired and weak and can barely function. I sit up and I lie down and that is about all I can do...but if you ask me now would I have the VATS it would be NO! JoyceRudyAZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 WHAT DOES "VATS" STAND FOR? Ginny, IPF6-08,COPD5-98,Richmond,VA To: Breathe-Support Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 3:17:29 PMSubject: Re: VATS Sorry you had such a terrible time, Joyce. I, too, had a bad experience with the VATS, so I feel your pain. I hope you are better soon. I think it too me a couple of months before I halfway felt back to normal. I hope you recover soon. Caro From: Sher Bauman <bofus (AT) wbcable (DOT) net>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comSent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 1:56:52 PMSubject: Re: VATS Rudy... I'm sure sorry to hear about your complications with the VATS.. Do you have someone with you to care for you and feed the dogs? It's too bad there is no way of knowing BEFORE the VATS how a person may react.... Do take care. MamaSher; 70, IPF 3-06, OR. NasturtiumsDon't fret about tomorrow, God is already there! VATS Just got home from my Thursday in and out vats. The Vats almost killed me. I have been in ICU. My lungs wouldn't saturate after the surgery. I was intibated and everything on large amounts of oxygen to just maintain a 88. I am home now but very tired and weak and can barely function. I sit up and I lie down and that is about all I can do...but if you ask me now would I have the VATS it would be NO! JoyceRudyAZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Ginny Depending on who writes it, Video Assisted Thoracoscopic Surgery or Video Assisted Thoracic Surgery. Its a way of looking at your lung and taking samples to biopsy using video equipment and small instruments and cutting three small holes in your body. Prior to this the only option was Open Lung Biopsy. An OLB is more invasive in terms of the size of the cuts made. Recovery from it generally would take longer. Your lung is deflated, pieces taken, the holes stapled shut. At the end of your surgery, the instruments are removed, the lung is reinflated, and all but one of the small incisions are stitched closed. For most patients, a tube (called a chest tube) is placed through the remaining opening to help drain any leaking air or fluid that collects after the surgery. The main risk of the surgery itself is that air leaks can develop (about 1%). Also, complications getting the lung reinflated and functioning proper and the potential of pneumonia after. The second potential for complication is anesthesia. Beth and I both had issues there although very different. Per Harvard, general anesthesia is safe for most patients, but it is estimated to result in major or minor complications in 3%-10% of people having surgery of all types. These complications are mostly heart and lung problems and infections. Irritation of the diaphragm and chest wall can cause pain in the chest or shoulder for a few days > > WHAT DOES " VATS " STAND FOR? > Ginny, IPF6-08,COPD5-98,Richmond,VA > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Carolyn Wade carowade4444@... > To: Breathe-Support > Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 3:17:29 PM > Subject: Re: VATS > > > > > > > > Sorry you had such a terrible time, Joyce. I, too, had a bad experience with the VATS, so I feel your pain. I hope you are better soon. I think it too me a couple of months before I halfway felt back to normal. I hope you recover soon. > > Caro > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Sher Bauman bofus (AT) wbcable (DOT) net> > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com > Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 1:56:52 PM > Subject: Re: VATS > > > Rudy... I'm sure sorry to hear about your complications with the VATS. Do you have someone with you to care for you and feed the dogs? > It's too bad there is no way of knowing BEFORE the VATS how a person may react.... > Do take care. > MamaSher; 70, IPF 3-06, OR. > Nasturtiums > Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there! > > VATS > > Just got home from my Thursday in and out vats. The Vats almost killed me. I have been in ICU. My lungs wouldn't saturate after the surgery. I was intibated and everything on large amounts of oxygen to just maintain a 88. I am home now but very tired and weak and can barely function.. I sit up and I lie down and that is about all I can do...but if you ask me now would I have the VATS it would be NO! JoyceRudyAZ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Joyce, Anesthesia does not make your lungs stop working. What has happened is you've had invasive surgery, your lung deliberately collapsed and then re-inflated. It's going to take time for the operative site to heal and for your lungs to resume working the way they were before. The main issue with the anesthesia is that most of these drugs are powerful respiratory suppressants. That is why post-op you needed and I needed also respiratory support. You mentioned that you were intubated post op. So was I and I was on a vent for a couple of days. It can take time to get those drugs out of your system completely. In addition if you are on any pain meds, they can also depress your breathing. That's why it's important to do whatever walking you can and also use the incentive spirometer that they should have given you at the hospital.(As Bruce already pointed out) You should be getting the report from your doctors soon. He/She is the person to ask about the term "advanced pulmonary fibrosis". Tell him someone told your sister that's what you had and ask him if that's the appropriate terminology and to explain why or why not to you. In the meantime continue to look after yourself! Beth Moderator Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositis 11/08 To: Breathe-Support <Breathe-Support >Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 4:46:38 PMSubject: Vats Does anyone know WHY after anesthesia our lungs stop working??? I am so glad to be home and in my own bed but still having problems breathing. They want me to walk 10 minutes in the morning and 10 minutes in the afternoon but I cannot. I can't even get to my mail box! I can barely get to the kitchen and bathroom. I am alone here with my dogs though people do call in and ask me how I am. I'm plum worn out! I am drinking as much as I can and eating a bit but not really hungry. I just feel terrible. How often does this happen when people undergo the VATS? When my sister called in the nurse said I was critical but I had advanced pulmonary fibrosis...but how can that be???? Joyce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Joyce, Anesthesia does not make your lungs stop working. What has happened is you've had invasive surgery, your lung deliberately collapsed and then re-inflated. It's going to take time for the operative site to heal and for your lungs to resume working the way they were before. The main issue with the anesthesia is that most of these drugs are powerful respiratory suppressants. That is why post-op you needed and I needed also respiratory support. You mentioned that you were intubated post op. So was I and I was on a vent for a couple of days. It can take time to get those drugs out of your system completely. In addition if you are on any pain meds, they can also depress your breathing. That's why it's important to do whatever walking you can and also use the incentive spirometer that they should have given you at the hospital.(As Bruce already pointed out) You should be getting the report from your doctors soon. He/She is the person to ask about the term "advanced pulmonary fibrosis". Tell him someone told your sister that's what you had and ask him if that's the appropriate terminology and to explain why or why not to you. In the meantime continue to look after yourself! Beth Moderator Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositis 11/08 To: Breathe-Support <Breathe-Support >Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 4:46:38 PMSubject: Vats Does anyone know WHY after anesthesia our lungs stop working??? I am so glad to be home and in my own bed but still having problems breathing. They want me to walk 10 minutes in the morning and 10 minutes in the afternoon but I cannot. I can't even get to my mail box! I can barely get to the kitchen and bathroom. I am alone here with my dogs though people do call in and ask me how I am. I'm plum worn out! I am drinking as much as I can and eating a bit but not really hungry. I just feel terrible. How often does this happen when people undergo the VATS? When my sister called in the nurse said I was critical but I had advanced pulmonary fibrosis...but how can that be???? Joyce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Rudy Joyce so sorry to hear about your difficult experience Pink Joyce IPF 3/06 Pennsylvania Donate Life Listed 1/09 inactive 4/09 www.transplantfund.org--- Subject: VATSTo: "Breathe-Support" <Breathe-Support >Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2009, 2:09 PM Just got home from my Thursday in and out vats. The Vats almost killed me. I have been in ICU. My lungs wouldn't saturate after the surgery. I was intibated and everything on large amounts of oxygen to just maintain a 88. I am home now but very tired and weak and can barely function. I sit up and I lie down and that is about all I can do...but if you ask me now would I have the VATS it would be NO! JoyceRudyAZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Rudy Joyce so sorry to hear about your difficult experience Pink Joyce IPF 3/06 Pennsylvania Donate Life Listed 1/09 inactive 4/09 www.transplantfund.org--- Subject: VATSTo: "Breathe-Support" <Breathe-Support >Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2009, 2:09 PM Just got home from my Thursday in and out vats. The Vats almost killed me. I have been in ICU. My lungs wouldn't saturate after the surgery. I was intibated and everything on large amounts of oxygen to just maintain a 88. I am home now but very tired and weak and can barely function. I sit up and I lie down and that is about all I can do...but if you ask me now would I have the VATS it would be NO! JoyceRudyAZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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