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>Kirsten:

> I am just about to either string myself up or my DS.

I sympathise Kirsten - mine always spat everything out and we resorted

to the syringe method - though you feel so utterly horrid doing it, as

if you are about to choke them.

Is is poss to take them as suppositories? (me being a non-medical

person - someone may know). just a thought

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Kirsten I really feel for you. We had a major wrestle with DD when she was

12m and spiked a huge temperature. I found what worked was a mixture of the

following:

1. Pouring onto measuring spoon but actually giving it a little at a time

with a " Heinz " baby spoon. It takes about 3-4 of these spoons to do a whole

5ml but if any is spat out it's only a small amount. I also sat her in her

high chair to give it otherwise I end up tipping it all over me!

2. Counting 1,2,3....put into mouth on 4.

3. Attention from big bro & Dad while she's taking it with lots of clapping

and cheering after each mouthful.

4. If it tastes yucky then a piece of strawberry after each spoonful.

Now at 20m the only part of the " routine " we still use is no. 1. She has

got a stinking cold now, so she's having a dose of Medised before bed

(otherwise she can't feed in the night because of her runny nose) and I've

given it to her in the bath tonight with no problems.

Try to relax, take deep breaths and make it look like not a big deal. I

found the more effort *I* put into giving it to her the more effort *she*

put into fighting me off!

HTH,

Crawley

Newsletter Editor, Jersey Branch.

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Kirsten I really feel for you. We had a major wrestle with DD when she was

12m and spiked a huge temperature. I found what worked was a mixture of the

following:

1. Pouring onto measuring spoon but actually giving it a little at a time

with a " Heinz " baby spoon. It takes about 3-4 of these spoons to do a whole

5ml but if any is spat out it's only a small amount. I also sat her in her

high chair to give it otherwise I end up tipping it all over me!

2. Counting 1,2,3....put into mouth on 4.

3. Attention from big bro & Dad while she's taking it with lots of clapping

and cheering after each mouthful.

4. If it tastes yucky then a piece of strawberry after each spoonful.

Now at 20m the only part of the " routine " we still use is no. 1. She has

got a stinking cold now, so she's having a dose of Medised before bed

(otherwise she can't feed in the night because of her runny nose) and I've

given it to her in the bath tonight with no problems.

Try to relax, take deep breaths and make it look like not a big deal. I

found the more effort *I* put into giving it to her the more effort *she*

put into fighting me off!

HTH,

Crawley

Newsletter Editor, Jersey Branch.

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Kirsten I really feel for you. We had a major wrestle with DD when she was

12m and spiked a huge temperature. I found what worked was a mixture of the

following:

1. Pouring onto measuring spoon but actually giving it a little at a time

with a " Heinz " baby spoon. It takes about 3-4 of these spoons to do a whole

5ml but if any is spat out it's only a small amount. I also sat her in her

high chair to give it otherwise I end up tipping it all over me!

2. Counting 1,2,3....put into mouth on 4.

3. Attention from big bro & Dad while she's taking it with lots of clapping

and cheering after each mouthful.

4. If it tastes yucky then a piece of strawberry after each spoonful.

Now at 20m the only part of the " routine " we still use is no. 1. She has

got a stinking cold now, so she's having a dose of Medised before bed

(otherwise she can't feed in the night because of her runny nose) and I've

given it to her in the bath tonight with no problems.

Try to relax, take deep breaths and make it look like not a big deal. I

found the more effort *I* put into giving it to her the more effort *she*

put into fighting me off!

HTH,

Crawley

Newsletter Editor, Jersey Branch.

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I found mixing it with ice cream worked! (But as a sanity solution I

backed myself up with suppositories of Calpol...very expensive @ £2

per one)

Good luck.

phine

(Mum to 3.5 & Ben 2.5, Cambridge NCT)

?). He won't eat anything but raisins,

> and is refusing to take his medicine.

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Caroline,

He is drinking flat lemonade and has just had some very weak

ribena(toothkind) in his cot, cos he woke. He won't touch water and

usually still drinks a good pint of milk a day, but his is (sort of)

telling me that milk hurts at the moment.

I was threatened with having my tonsils out until I was 14, but then

the hospital appointment never came through, and strangely the

tonsilitus never came back either, but I had it badly and quite often

when I was young.

Mum phoned tonight and said that she had an ulcer on her tonsil which

came up today. I didn't know that it was infectious, is it?

Kirsten

>DD2 used to be a little horror about taking medicine - we used a

syringe and put a little in the mouth at a time - we had to resort to

the towel & body hug a few times as it was like trying to hold an

octopus, I used to end up wearing most of it and wondering just how

many legs and arms a child could possible have:-). You can get

suppositories for calpol and some antibiotics but I think you might

need to see Dr again for perscription (sp?). Is he taking any fluids?

maybe a bit of calpol (or what ever else is needed) followed by a

spoon of ice-cream. Injection would be more traumatic (IM orIV

antibiotics hurt). Poor little fellow I feel for him I used to suffer

from the most awful throat infections until I had my tonsils out at 32

>

>Caroline

>Jersey

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>> ** Original Subject: Administering Medicine (long

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>> ** Original Sender: " Kirsten Boustred "

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>> ** Original Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 20:28:44 +0100

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>> HELPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>

>> I am just about to either string myself up or my DS. I know it is

not

>> really his fault. He has tonsillitis, and has a very inflamed

throat

>> with ulcers. He won't drink anything but flat lemonade without

>> screaming in pain (even milk?). He won't eat anything but raisins,

>> and is refusing to take his medicine.

>

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Kirsten,

Do go for the Hagen Das/Ben & Jerry's or DD's favourite (shared with Mum of

course) Magnum! Neither of us like the chocolate on the outside though. As

a long term tonsillitis sufferer I can understand how he feels. Ice chips

( as in chips of ice), or frozen peas were my " throat soothers " as a child.

Propolis throat spray totally solved my problem as an adult, but I wouldn't

have taken it as a child - it tastes awful!

I think the unseasonally hot weather has just made the bugs multiply

tenfold.

Crawley

Newsletter Editor, Jersey Branch.

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Hagen Das it is then, and if he doesn't like it, know I do!

Kirsten

>Kirsten,

>Do go for the Hagen Das/Ben & Jerry's or DD's favourite (shared with

Mum of

>course) Magnum! Neither of us like the chocolate on the outside

though. As

>a long term tonsillitis sufferer I can understand how he feels. Ice

chips

>( as in chips of ice), or frozen peas were my " throat soothers " as a

child.

>Propolis throat spray totally solved my problem as an adult, but I

wouldn't

>have taken it as a child - it tastes awful!

>I think the unseasonally hot weather has just made the bugs multiply

>tenfold.

>

> Crawley

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Caroline

has he been snogging his granny? .

Don't think so! well, I hope not anyway, She is coming tommorrow so I

shall ask!

the ENT chap felt that DD1 could be at 'risk'.

DS seems to have had been poorly every few weeks since the winter. I

am putting it down to his age and starting playgroups etc. Lots more

mixing with other grubby little kids. yuck ;-) te he.

>Another thought - how about mixing the calpol with a little of his

ribena? not to dilute but enough to let it down a bit

I know that his antibiotics won't mix with anything, cos I tried and

they just turned to sludge. But I might try the Calpol or baby

Neurophenwith his breakfast.

Thanks

Kirsten

>

>> Caroline,

>>

>>

>> He is drinking flat lemonade and has just had some very weak

>> ribena(toothkind) in his cot, cos he woke. He won't touch water

and

>> usually still drinks a good pint of milk a day, but his is (sort

of)

>> telling me that milk hurts at the moment.

>

>> Mum phoned tonight and said that she had an ulcer on her tonsil

which

>> came up today. I didn't know that it was infectious, is it?

>>

>> Kirsten

>

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>Jersey, British Isles

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I am honestly not sure - It would depend on the bacteria present I would think

i.e. wether a strep or staff infection - has he been snogging his granny?

........I think it is low grade infectious in that in schools you get clusters of

children going down with usually those that work closely together. I do know

that I was given priority for my op. as DD1 was only 1 and I had been living off

antibiotics for 6 months and every time I stopped them the infection returned

and the ENT chap felt that DD1 could be at 'risk'.

Another thought - how about mixing the calpol with a little of his ribena? not

to dilute but enough to let it down a bit

Caroline

Jersey

> Caroline,

>

>

> He is drinking flat lemonade and has just had some very weak

> ribena(toothkind) in his cot, cos he woke. He won't touch water and

> usually still drinks a good pint of milk a day, but his is (sort of)

> telling me that milk hurts at the moment.

> Mum phoned tonight and said that she had an ulcer on her tonsil which

> came up today. I didn't know that it was infectious, is it?

>

> Kirsten

Jersey, British Isles

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When DS1 had such a severe throat infection that he couldn't bear to take

*anything* orally, the emergency GP prescribed some paracetomol suppositories.

These at least numbed the pain sufficiently for us to get the antibiotics into

him. You'll probably need 2 of you to administer them - and I'll bet your dh

opts to stay away from the business end! - but they work.

Alison

HELPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am just about to either string myself up or my DS. I know it is not

really his fault. He has tonsillitis, and has a very inflamed throat

with ulcers. He won't drink anything but flat lemonade without

screaming in pain (even milk?). He won't eat anything but raisins,

and is refusing to take his medicine.

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When DS1 had such a severe throat infection that he couldn't bear to take

*anything* orally, the emergency GP prescribed some paracetomol suppositories.

These at least numbed the pain sufficiently for us to get the antibiotics into

him. You'll probably need 2 of you to administer them - and I'll bet your dh

opts to stay away from the business end! - but they work.

Alison

HELPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am just about to either string myself up or my DS. I know it is not

really his fault. He has tonsillitis, and has a very inflamed throat

with ulcers. He won't drink anything but flat lemonade without

screaming in pain (even milk?). He won't eat anything but raisins,

and is refusing to take his medicine.

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When DS1 had such a severe throat infection that he couldn't bear to take

*anything* orally, the emergency GP prescribed some paracetomol suppositories.

These at least numbed the pain sufficiently for us to get the antibiotics into

him. You'll probably need 2 of you to administer them - and I'll bet your dh

opts to stay away from the business end! - but they work.

Alison

HELPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am just about to either string myself up or my DS. I know it is not

really his fault. He has tonsillitis, and has a very inflamed throat

with ulcers. He won't drink anything but flat lemonade without

screaming in pain (even milk?). He won't eat anything but raisins,

and is refusing to take his medicine.

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He has tonsillitis, and has a very inflamed throat

> with ulcers. He won't drink anything but flat lemonade without

> screaming in pain (even milk?). He won't eat anything but raisins,

> and is refusing to take his medicine.

> I have tried a spoon, a cup, a medicine dummy, a long medicine spoon

> he can hold himself and every time we have had to resort to a

syringe

> forced into his mouth, with me administering and DH holding him

> wrapped in a towel, so he can't fight. I hate it<<

You poor thing! I have been there too with DS2 at exactly that age.

I remember actually laying him on the bed and sitting on him so that

my legs were pinning his arms down and getting dh (if he was around)

to hold his head still whilst I shot the medicine in with the syringe.

I wish I had a solution to it all but honestly I tried everything

(same as you) including mixing it with drinks which he then refused to

drink! I has a similar problem with DS3 but not on such a grand scale

and I mixed it with a little yoghurt which he ate, but if your DS is

only eating raisins then you can't really do that!

So all I can give is my utmost sympathy and to say that by the time he

was 3 we had no problems giving him medicine.

Lorraine

Mum to 10, Natasha 8, 5, ph 3

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He has tonsillitis, and has a very inflamed throat

> with ulcers. He won't drink anything but flat lemonade without

> screaming in pain (even milk?). He won't eat anything but raisins,

> and is refusing to take his medicine.

> I have tried a spoon, a cup, a medicine dummy, a long medicine spoon

> he can hold himself and every time we have had to resort to a

syringe

> forced into his mouth, with me administering and DH holding him

> wrapped in a towel, so he can't fight. I hate it<<

You poor thing! I have been there too with DS2 at exactly that age.

I remember actually laying him on the bed and sitting on him so that

my legs were pinning his arms down and getting dh (if he was around)

to hold his head still whilst I shot the medicine in with the syringe.

I wish I had a solution to it all but honestly I tried everything

(same as you) including mixing it with drinks which he then refused to

drink! I has a similar problem with DS3 but not on such a grand scale

and I mixed it with a little yoghurt which he ate, but if your DS is

only eating raisins then you can't really do that!

So all I can give is my utmost sympathy and to say that by the time he

was 3 we had no problems giving him medicine.

Lorraine

Mum to 10, Natasha 8, 5, ph 3

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Kirsten

Milk is a rather horrible feeling in your throat when you have ulcers

and a sore throat (I suffered from cronic tonsillities from age 12 to

18 when they finally took out my toncils) so I would forget about it.

Also some people (myself included) find that when you are taking

antibiotic's that makes the milk taste very weird..

At 23 months your little one may be to old for this but in a baby if

you blow on his/her face just after having put something into their

mouth they have a reflex that makes them swallow (you could try it on

him without anything in as you can clearly see if this works) I think

they loose this around 2 years so yours may or may not have..

The Ice cream is a great idea but try to make is lolly crushed up as

if he wont take the milk I doubt he will take dairy ice cream either..

but yes do ring up your gg s/he can give you something else that may

be easier to get into a reluctant child.. (dont worry about what he

is eating when you have ulcers in your mouth it is so painfull to get

anything down I am amazed that he is eating raisins.. once they

start to do appetite will return)

Lonnie

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>If he's drinking flat lemonade could you put it in that?

>

>Joanne King

>SAHM to Ethan - HB 29.06.00

>Minute Secretary Colchester & District

Yes I tried with the antibiotics and the whole mixture, just turned

into porridge. To be honest I am a bit worried about creating a new

chemical substance, by mixing medicine with things. Although I have

tried a couple of times.

Kirsten

Mum to (23 months) Step-mom to Shelby (6yrs)

Trainee ANT, and Memb-sec Woking and Knaphill Branches.

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>If he's drinking flat lemonade could you put it in that?

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>Joanne King

>SAHM to Ethan - HB 29.06.00

>Minute Secretary Colchester & District

Yes I tried with the antibiotics and the whole mixture, just turned

into porridge. To be honest I am a bit worried about creating a new

chemical substance, by mixing medicine with things. Although I have

tried a couple of times.

Kirsten

Mum to (23 months) Step-mom to Shelby (6yrs)

Trainee ANT, and Memb-sec Woking and Knaphill Branches.

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Just thought of something When I used to work in a residential home we had a

couple of ladies who refused to take their medicine so we used to crunch it up

in a teaspoon and give it to them with a little jam that worked do you think it

would here?

Lonnie Phoebe & Eloisa's mama

& expecting a Christmas delivery...

My therapist told me the way to achieve true inner peace is to finish what you

start.

So far today, I have finished 2 bags of chips and a Chocolate cake.

I feel better already.

Re: Administering Medicine (long rant)

If he's drinking flat lemonade could you put it in that?

Joanne King

SAHM to Ethan - HB 29.06.00

Minute Secretary Colchester & District

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Kirsten said:

> Yes I tried with the antibiotics and the whole mixture, just turned

> into porridge. To be honest I am a bit worried about creating a new

> chemical substance, by mixing medicine with things. Although I have

> tried a couple of times.

>

I'm sure you won't be making a new chemical substance after all it mixes

with everything once in the stomach! - if you worked on that theory you

wouldn't be able to eat or drink for several hours before and after taking

any medication would you?

Joanne King

SAHM to Ethan - HB 29.06.00

Minute Secretary Colchester & District

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> Now no one could detect the antibiotics in Marmite

> could they????

>

> Well I suppose you either love it or hate it - I love it, DS hates

it! He also hates banana flavoured antibiotics but I have managed to

get him to pinch his nose while swallowing (deadens the taste)and

then he gets a lovely orange flavoured vitamin chewy sweet, the only

sweets he likes!

Ruth

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I wouldn't be so sure, my mother was always amazed that I could tell when

she'd used something other than butter in my marmite sandwiches.

Cerys

Basingstoke

www.Basingstokenct.co.uk

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Now no one could detect the antibiotics in Marmite

could they????

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I wouldn't be so sure, my mother was always amazed that I could tell when

she'd used something other than butter in my marmite sandwiches.

Cerys

Basingstoke

www.Basingstokenct.co.uk

-----Original Message-----

Now no one could detect the antibiotics in Marmite

could they????

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