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We had an Alhambra and were very happy with it. As you said, it's much cheaper

than the Ford/VW and more loaded.

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We're looking at the Seat Alhambra, Galaxy/Sharan clone but way

cheaper with more bits.

(will test drive of course , as always ;-) )

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We had an Alhambra and were very happy with it. As you said, it's much cheaper

than the Ford/VW and more loaded.

Joyce

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From: Angi Nutt [sMTP:angi.nutt@...]

We're looking at the Seat Alhambra, Galaxy/Sharan clone but way

cheaper with more bits.

(will test drive of course , as always ;-) )

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DH drives our MPV, a Nissan Serena which I hate, mainly cos it's so

hard to get in and out of, has no handle on the inside of the driving

side to help me lever myself in (and I'm short and arthritic). It has

no sunroof (older models did) but drives OK.

I love convertibles. I have had 2 second hand Ford Escort Cabriolets,

the most recent one is an N reg so not that recent, but still goes

beautifully and everyone admires it, it's so cool and zippy. When I

change it eventually I am looking at one that does NOT have a central

bar between front and rear seats, (so uncool!) and maybe has a remote

control electric roof like the ads for the new Vauxhall Astra,

although I wonder if it's as simple as in the advert, where he beeps

the remote from the train window cos he sees it's raining. In my car,

after the roof closes electrically, you still have to clip the roof

down on both sides. I wonder if that is the case with the Astra.

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DH drives our MPV, a Nissan Serena which I hate, mainly cos it's so

hard to get in and out of, has no handle on the inside of the driving

side to help me lever myself in (and I'm short and arthritic). It has

no sunroof (older models did) but drives OK.

I love convertibles. I have had 2 second hand Ford Escort Cabriolets,

the most recent one is an N reg so not that recent, but still goes

beautifully and everyone admires it, it's so cool and zippy. When I

change it eventually I am looking at one that does NOT have a central

bar between front and rear seats, (so uncool!) and maybe has a remote

control electric roof like the ads for the new Vauxhall Astra,

although I wonder if it's as simple as in the advert, where he beeps

the remote from the train window cos he sees it's raining. In my car,

after the roof closes electrically, you still have to clip the roof

down on both sides. I wonder if that is the case with the Astra.

Ruthie

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> Also you always see

> these *better* prices for cars imported into the Country but has

> anyone dared to do that?

You do need to be a bit careful as cars built for a different market could have

a lower build specification. For instance, cars built for southern Europe

might rust more quickly as they are not built to withstand northern weather.

There could be safety implications as well if other countries have different

safety standards.

Lynda

SAHM to (8), (6), Fraser (3), Callum (15/5/00)

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<<>Still thinking about this - or a

>Renault Scenic - would like to know thoughts on this as well.>>>>

Oh...

well apologies in advance but you said the word(s) that gets me started....

We had a Renault Scenic before the Picasso and I hated it (as did dh) it was

without a doubt the worst buy we ever did..

I think to be truthful we had a bad specimen in the nearly 3 years we had it -

from new-

it had twice problems with the air-conditioning

once alternator gave out after a year and a half - me on my own with 2 young

children on M 25 Eloisa back then 6 weeks NEVER in my life been that pleased I

was breastfeeding as I had left my sil's 2 hours later than I had intended had I

been bottle feeding I would not have had enough bottles with me even if I had

taken a extra we arrived home 6 hours after we had left (a 1 hour journey)

reversing light system went after 12.5 months (and they would not cover it under

standard warranty)

powersteering went wrong

and once it needed new brakes (after 9K)

ALL in a car that had driven 20K at the end of the 3 years)

BUT even taking that aside...

I found it difficult to park (as I didn't find the visibility in the back very

good)

The gears are so close together that even nearly 3 years down the lane both me

and dh was at least once a day putting it into 1st when wanting 3rd or 2nd when

wanting 4th..

Brakes not wonderful (really need to bash them - unless your foot is straight on

- also it is something you don't notice so much in a test drive as it is a

unknown car and you are thinking oh I will get used to that...) and aps is not

standard

Also it stalls SO easily it is just stupid

dh say's he feels gear box is like a woodenspoon and cakemix..

I liked

The versatility it offered with the seats and the space it had inside..

3 point harness in the middle seat at the back.

Good dashboard design

Very good stork radio controls

2 electronic key's

Generally it was a well designed car it was just very badly put together.. (dh

says to point out this was the old model they have slightly updated it since)

Our local garage was really awful about all repairs and general maintenance

(obviously did not help our liking of the car)

Also I just want to point out that in a recent car survey I saw with regards to

whiplash injuries the Scenic came out the worst in fact it came out with a

recommendation that they redesign the neckrests as they offered no support..

Very interesting to me as our Scenic came to a end in a carcrash I was in, that

resulted in me having a whiplash injury..

But whist this was a horrible time in a way it was the best that could happen

for us as Renault had worked out the original balloon payment wrongly and we had

actually lost our initial laydown payment and was standing to loose at least 1 -

1.5k more but as it was a accident write off we got a payoff according to " book "

price and got out of it " only " loosing our original laydown a lot better than we

had thought we would get from it.. But I for one am never buying a Renault

again..

Lonnie Phoebe & Eloisa's mama

& expecting a Christmas delivery...

My therapist told me the way to achieve true inner peace is to finish what you

start.

So far today, I have finished 2 bags of chips and a Chocolate cake.

I feel better already.

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> Come on ladies - do a test drive and forget what it looks like, feel how it

> handles!

> I test drove most of the small cars in the range before settleing on my

> Micra

Did you know that the Micra was specifically designed to appeal to women?

Lynda

whose DH builds the things

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Kirsten

we went into Yahoo put in Citroen dealers and then went into the web pages of

the dealers that was within reasonable distance (no more than 2 hours we felt)

when we got to the dealer (Broad's Chalfont St Giles) we bought from they had a

great offer on (around the same you have been quoted) then we rang them up and

it took us about 15 mins (with them faxing us details) to settle the deal with

them must have been the quickest ever commission that guy ever made..

Dh says that Citroen dealers are trained to do deal's as they have a rather

small market share and are aiming to get it up so if you are paying cash you

should be able to get a good deal. However he also warns that this may not be

the case on the Picasso as they are becoming a very popular car..

Lonnie Phoebe & Eloisa's mama

& expecting a Christmas delivery...

My therapist told me the way to achieve true inner peace is to finish what you

start.

So far today, I have finished 2 bags of chips and a Chocolate cake.

I feel better already.

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>we have one had it since November and I LOVE IT.. NOTHING to complain

about I just adore it..

>Oh can I btw suggest that you have a little surf on the internet we

found ours in Chalfont (north of London) and live in Surrey but they

had the car nearly 2k cheaper and a 1.8 model as opposed to the 1.6 we

where looking at down in Kingston.. obviously took a little longer to

collect than going the 20 mins down the road to Kingston but for 2k

saving I didn't mind and it gave us a lovely chance to give it a good

test drive going home via the m25..

Lonnie,

We have been quoted £11,245 for a 1.8 16-valve SX model. Does this

sound good to you? I know it is cheaper than the list price but I

would like to know if I can get it cheaper as we are paying cash.

We are in Surrey too and have seen that price up in Croydon near my

parents, so looks like we will be travelling to pick it up! We are

also planning on getting the new no.plate so collecting on 1st Sept,

but we are off on Hols on the 2nd. I seem to be doing everything with

a tight deadline this summer!!

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we went into Yahoo put in Citroen dealers and then went into the web pages of

the dealers that was within reasonable distance (no more than 2 hours we felt)

when we got to the dealer (Broad's Chalfont St Giles) we bought from they had a

great offer on (around the same you have been quoted) then we rang them up and

it took us about 15 mins (with them faxing us details) to settle the deal with

them must have been the quickest ever commission that guy ever made..

Dh says that Citroen dealers are trained to do deal's as they have a rather

small market share and are aiming to get it up so if you are paying cash you

should be able to get a good deal. However he also warns that this may not be

the case on the Picasso as they are becoming a very popular car..

Lonnie Phoebe & Eloisa's mama

& expecting a Christmas delivery...

My therapist told me the way to achieve true inner peace is to finish what you

start.

So far today, I have finished 2 bags of chips and a Chocolate cake.

I feel better already.

Re: New Car!

>we have one had it since November and I LOVE IT.. NOTHING to complain

about I just adore it..

>Oh can I btw suggest that you have a little surf on the internet we

found ours in Chalfont (north of London) and live in Surrey but they

had the car nearly 2k cheaper and a 1.8 model as opposed to the 1.6 we

where looking at down in Kingston.. obviously took a little longer to

collect than going the 20 mins down the road to Kingston but for 2k

saving I didn't mind and it gave us a lovely chance to give it a good

test drive going home via the m25..

Lonnie,

We have been quoted £11,245 for a 1.8 16-valve SX model. Does this

sound good to you? I know it is cheaper than the list price but I

would like to know if I can get it cheaper as we are paying cash.

We are in Surrey too and have seen that price up in Croydon near my

parents, so looks like we will be travelling to pick it up! We are

also planning on getting the new no.plate so collecting on 1st Sept,

but we are off on Hols on the 2nd. I seem to be doing everything with

a tight deadline this summer!!

Kirsten

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Yes, our last family car (Nissan Sunny) was an import. Actually, we bought

it when it was a year old, at auction, so we didn't realise for quite a

while. I have to say, it's the best car we've ever had. It had been a

company car - which we would have avoided at a dealership as most people

just don't bother to take good care of them, in our experience :( But we

needed a big car and couldn't afford dealership prices....

In the 4 years we had it, the only thing that ever went wrong was a hole in

the exhaust, which is how we came to discover it was an import as the listed

part didn't fit it and we either had to get a new exhaust from Japan or

bodge one from Kwikfit - guess which option we chose? We gave it to SIL

when we bought the Serena, and she's letting it rot outside her house, blast

her eyes!

We asked for it back last summer as DH's car is old and unreliable and the

kit he's building is taking longer than he expected and she wasn't using it

and he'd have appreciated the air con. But she wasn't playing.......:((

Vicki Portman

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>

> Otherwise I would agree with checking the web. Also you always see

> these *better* prices for cars imported into the Country but has

> anyone dared to do that?

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Yes, our last family car (Nissan Sunny) was an import. Actually, we bought

it when it was a year old, at auction, so we didn't realise for quite a

while. I have to say, it's the best car we've ever had. It had been a

company car - which we would have avoided at a dealership as most people

just don't bother to take good care of them, in our experience :( But we

needed a big car and couldn't afford dealership prices....

In the 4 years we had it, the only thing that ever went wrong was a hole in

the exhaust, which is how we came to discover it was an import as the listed

part didn't fit it and we either had to get a new exhaust from Japan or

bodge one from Kwikfit - guess which option we chose? We gave it to SIL

when we bought the Serena, and she's letting it rot outside her house, blast

her eyes!

We asked for it back last summer as DH's car is old and unreliable and the

kit he's building is taking longer than he expected and she wasn't using it

and he'd have appreciated the air con. But she wasn't playing.......:((

Vicki Portman

http://www.plushpants.co.uk

>

> Otherwise I would agree with checking the web. Also you always see

> these *better* prices for cars imported into the Country but has

> anyone dared to do that?

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Yes, our last family car (Nissan Sunny) was an import. Actually, we bought

it when it was a year old, at auction, so we didn't realise for quite a

while. I have to say, it's the best car we've ever had. It had been a

company car - which we would have avoided at a dealership as most people

just don't bother to take good care of them, in our experience :( But we

needed a big car and couldn't afford dealership prices....

In the 4 years we had it, the only thing that ever went wrong was a hole in

the exhaust, which is how we came to discover it was an import as the listed

part didn't fit it and we either had to get a new exhaust from Japan or

bodge one from Kwikfit - guess which option we chose? We gave it to SIL

when we bought the Serena, and she's letting it rot outside her house, blast

her eyes!

We asked for it back last summer as DH's car is old and unreliable and the

kit he's building is taking longer than he expected and she wasn't using it

and he'd have appreciated the air con. But she wasn't playing.......:((

Vicki Portman

http://www.plushpants.co.uk

>

> Otherwise I would agree with checking the web. Also you always see

> these *better* prices for cars imported into the Country but has

> anyone dared to do that?

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Excuse me but I just could not drive an ugly car. DH keeps threatening to

buy me a Multipla - if he does I'll leave him

Cerys

who *really* wants an MG Midget - some chance with 2 kids!

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Come on ladies - do a test drive and forget what it looks like, feel how it

handles!

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Much as I know an MPV would be practical, I'd love a sports car, especially

while the boys are still small and could all fit in to it. The Audi TT

looks nice, but I'm not sure I can get two child seats plus a baby onto the

back seat.... Oh well, I can have a dream :o)))

Hannah

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Excuse me but I just could not drive an ugly car. DH keeps threatening to

buy me a Multipla - if he does I'll leave him

Cerys

who *really* wants an MG Midget - some chance with 2 kids!

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Much as I know an MPV would be practical, I'd love a sports car, especially

while the boys are still small and could all fit in to it. The Audi TT

looks nice, but I'm not sure I can get two child seats plus a baby onto the

back seat.... Oh well, I can have a dream :o)))

Hannah

RE: Re: New Car!

Excuse me but I just could not drive an ugly car. DH keeps threatening to

buy me a Multipla - if he does I'll leave him

Cerys

who *really* wants an MG Midget - some chance with 2 kids!

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> Did you know that the Micra was specifically designed to appeal to women?

In what respect? If looks then I didn't think so! It just felt better for

me.

I am quite small, height and feet!

In the Clio I had to bend down to reach the handbrake - a big no no

In the Metro I had to sit with my nose on the windscreen to reach the

clutch.

(I prefer to sit at arms length (with slight bend in arm) to the steering

wheel)

The Fiesta didn't seem to have any go in it.

Shall I stop there?????

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> Excuse me but I just could not drive an ugly car. DH keeps

threatening to

> buy me a Multipla - if he does I'll leave him

>

agreed - it really is an odd looking thing!

> Cerys

> who *really* wants an MG Midget - some chance with 2 kids!

This was our family car when I was little (Dad's car was a Lotus

Elan!!) Steve (DB) and I sat on the shelf at the back!!! Can't see

this being allowed these days LOL!

Caroline

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> Excuse me but I just could not drive an ugly car. DH keeps

threatening to

> buy me a Multipla - if he does I'll leave him

>

agreed - it really is an odd looking thing!

> Cerys

> who *really* wants an MG Midget - some chance with 2 kids!

This was our family car when I was little (Dad's car was a Lotus

Elan!!) Steve (DB) and I sat on the shelf at the back!!! Can't see

this being allowed these days LOL!

Caroline

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> > Did you know that the Micra was specifically designed to appeal to women?

>

> In what respect?

In all respects - appearance, trim, handling (light steering for example),

size, economy, luggage space. Apparently men and women want different things

from a car and lots of research went into building the Micra as the ideal

" woman's car " . (Must be aimed at a single woman with no children though as in

my experience the most important things are enough boot space for a double

buggy and room to get three car seats across the back!)

Lynda

SAHM to (8), (6), Fraser (3), Callum (15/5/00)

Newsletter editor, Mid-Northumberland Branch

Area Rep, Region 7

www.familygarland.co.uk

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> > Did you know that the Micra was specifically designed to appeal to women?

>

> In what respect?

In all respects - appearance, trim, handling (light steering for example),

size, economy, luggage space. Apparently men and women want different things

from a car and lots of research went into building the Micra as the ideal

" woman's car " . (Must be aimed at a single woman with no children though as in

my experience the most important things are enough boot space for a double

buggy and room to get three car seats across the back!)

Lynda

SAHM to (8), (6), Fraser (3), Callum (15/5/00)

Newsletter editor, Mid-Northumberland Branch

Area Rep, Region 7

www.familygarland.co.uk

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The people who lived opposite us when we were children had a Midget and

their boys used to go everywhere on the back shelf. Pity we know so much

more about car safety now.

Cerys

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> Cerys

> who *really* wants an MG Midget - some chance with 2 kids!

This was our family car when I was little (Dad's car was a Lotus

Elan!!) Steve (DB) and I sat on the shelf at the back!!! Can't see

this being allowed these days LOL!

Caroline

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The people who lived opposite us when we were children had a Midget and

their boys used to go everywhere on the back shelf. Pity we know so much

more about car safety now.

Cerys

-----Original Message-----

> Cerys

> who *really* wants an MG Midget - some chance with 2 kids!

This was our family car when I was little (Dad's car was a Lotus

Elan!!) Steve (DB) and I sat on the shelf at the back!!! Can't see

this being allowed these days LOL!

Caroline

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Angi Nutt wrote:

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> I think would have applied his adage to cars if he'd

> had one!

> (badly remembered quote but roughly -have nothing in your house

> (?garage!) that is not both?/ either (which was it?!) beautiful and

> useful.

> Angi

> ----

Have nothing in your house that you don't know to be useful or believe to be

beautiful

Hmm... where does that leave DH!?!

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Angi Nutt wrote:

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> I think would have applied his adage to cars if he'd

> had one!

> (badly remembered quote but roughly -have nothing in your house

> (?garage!) that is not both?/ either (which was it?!) beautiful and

> useful.

> Angi

> ----

Have nothing in your house that you don't know to be useful or believe to be

beautiful

Hmm... where does that leave DH!?!

http://www.foxstitch.co.uk/

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Hm better not show this to dh after this weekend he was not usefull and even

with my best will in the world he is certainly no beautiful either ...

mind it could be useful to get rid of all those darn single socks he insists

that we will find the partner to lol

Lonnie Phoebe & Eloisa's mama

& expecting a Christmas delivery...

My therapist told me the way to achieve true inner peace is to finish what you

start.

So far today, I have finished 2 bags of chips and a Chocolate cake.

I feel better already.

Re: Re: New Car!

Angi Nutt wrote:

>

> I think would have applied his adage to cars if he'd

> had one!

> (badly remembered quote but roughly -have nothing in your house

> (?garage!) that is not both?/ either (which was it?!) beautiful and

> useful.

> Angi

> ----

Have nothing in your house that you don't know to be useful or believe to be

beautiful

Hmm... where does that leave DH!?!

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