Re: O/T Root Canal Question

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In frequent-dose-chelation alexseeold wrote:

Snapped off a crowned tooth at the gumline last week and found it had a

tiny sliver of amalgam in it. Evidently the original butcher dentist

drilled a long hole and somehow rounded out the bottom to " anchor " the

amalgam above. We had popped the cap last September and thought we had

gotten it all but discovered this sliver when the tooth broke off.

Anyways, it's out but that tooth also has a receded nerve from a long-

standing abcess below. The dentist recommends a root canal and a post,

then reglue the crown. Any advice?

Thanks, Mark

------------Where is the tooth, front, back? I would ask what your options

are. Is the dentist recommending the root canal a mercury free dentist? I have

read alot of nasty stuff about root canals causing lots of health problems, so

personally, I would never get one. If there is already an abcess below this

tooth, I would be very concerned about getting a root canal, and having

continuing trouble with infection in and around that tooth. Now all that being

said, I will honestly admit that I have never had a root canal and have never

had to make that decision, so no personal experience with having one. So

hopefully someone with personal experience will comment. My sister recently had

to make this decision, and decided to have the tooth pulled.---------Jackie

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In frequent-dose-chelation alexseeold wrote:

Snapped off a crowned tooth at the gumline last week and found it had a

tiny sliver of amalgam in it. Evidently the original butcher dentist

drilled a long hole and somehow rounded out the bottom to " anchor " the

amalgam above. We had popped the cap last September and thought we had

gotten it all but discovered this sliver when the tooth broke off.

Anyways, it's out but that tooth also has a receded nerve from a long-

standing abcess below. The dentist recommends a root canal and a post,

then reglue the crown. Any advice?

Thanks, Mark

------------Where is the tooth, front, back? I would ask what your options

are. Is the dentist recommending the root canal a mercury free dentist? I have

read alot of nasty stuff about root canals causing lots of health problems, so

personally, I would never get one. If there is already an abcess below this

tooth, I would be very concerned about getting a root canal, and having

continuing trouble with infection in and around that tooth. Now all that being

said, I will honestly admit that I have never had a root canal and have never

had to make that decision, so no personal experience with having one. So

hopefully someone with personal experience will comment. My sister recently had

to make this decision, and decided to have the tooth pulled.---------Jackie

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Mark its a personal call

My first dopey dentist did a crappy job of drilling out a cracked

amalgam filling (I had to have it removed very quickly as it broke

off). This was 8 months ago. A root canal was needed

It occasionally aches in the middle of the night, so I am having all

cavitations cleaned out and this root canal removed in the next

month..My view is it (root canal) cannot be helping matters

MY huggins dentist who was fantastic said he hears from his oral

surgeon friends who remove root canals that there they regularly find

a lot of gnarly stuff when they are removed (NOT IN ALL CASES)

but my personal view is it has to go

> Snapped off a crowned tooth at the gumline last week and found

> it had a tiny sliver of amalgam in it. Evidently the original

> butcher dentist drilled a long hole and somehow rounded out the

> bottom to " anchor " the amalgam above. We had popped the cap last

> September and thought we had gotten it all but discovered this

> sliver when the tooth broke off.

> Anyways, it's out but that tooth also has a receded nerve from a

> standing abcess below. The dentist recommends a root canal and a

> post, then reglue the crown. Any advice?

> Thanks, Mark

> ------------Where is the tooth, front, back? I would ask what

your options are. Is the dentist recommending the root canal a

mercury free dentist? I have read alot of nasty stuff about root

canals causing lots of health problems, so personally, I would never

get one. If there is already an abcess below this tooth, I would be

very concerned about getting a root canal, and having continuing

trouble with infection in and around that tooth. Now all that being

said, I will honestly admit that I have never had a root canal and

have never had to make that decision, so no personal experience with

having one. So hopefully someone with personal experience will

comment. My sister recently had to make this decision, and decided

to have the tooth pulled.---------Jackie

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Mark its a personal call

My first dopey dentist did a crappy job of drilling out a cracked

amalgam filling (I had to have it removed very quickly as it broke

off). This was 8 months ago. A root canal was needed

It occasionally aches in the middle of the night, so I am having all

cavitations cleaned out and this root canal removed in the next

month..My view is it (root canal) cannot be helping matters

MY huggins dentist who was fantastic said he hears from his oral

surgeon friends who remove root canals that there they regularly find

a lot of gnarly stuff when they are removed (NOT IN ALL CASES)

but my personal view is it has to go

> Snapped off a crowned tooth at the gumline last week and found

> it had a tiny sliver of amalgam in it. Evidently the original

> butcher dentist drilled a long hole and somehow rounded out the

> bottom to " anchor " the amalgam above. We had popped the cap last

> September and thought we had gotten it all but discovered this

> sliver when the tooth broke off.

> Anyways, it's out but that tooth also has a receded nerve from a

> standing abcess below. The dentist recommends a root canal and a

> post, then reglue the crown. Any advice?

> Thanks, Mark

> ------------Where is the tooth, front, back? I would ask what

your options are. Is the dentist recommending the root canal a

mercury free dentist? I have read alot of nasty stuff about root

canals causing lots of health problems, so personally, I would never

get one. If there is already an abcess below this tooth, I would be

very concerned about getting a root canal, and having continuing

trouble with infection in and around that tooth. Now all that being

said, I will honestly admit that I have never had a root canal and

have never had to make that decision, so no personal experience with

having one. So hopefully someone with personal experience will

comment. My sister recently had to make this decision, and decided

to have the tooth pulled.---------Jackie

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Pull it. Save yourself the headache and money. Root canaled teeth are

dead and toxic to the immune system. Worse than the abscess. This is a

constant chronic infection in your jaw. Look into a metal free partial

or bridge.

It's very common for dentist to leave or put amalgam under

crowns..they figure it's cheap and no one will see it. However, it

leaks more mercury when in contact with the metal from the crown.

I am not speaking from the hip...I needed a root canal because I had

an abscessed molar..I chose to have it pulled. It's a hard decision,

but basically once it needs root canal..it's dead..

And we would not leave a dead finger or arm on our body...it would be

gangrenous and cause septicemias (blood poisoning). What makes a dead

tooth much different?

>

> Snapped off a crowned tooth at the gumline last week and found it

had a

> tiny sliver of amalgam in it. Evidently the original butcher dentist

> drilled a long hole and somehow rounded out the bottom to " anchor "

the

> amalgam above. We had popped the cap last September and thought we

had

> gotten it all but discovered this sliver when the tooth broke off.

> Anyways, it's out but that tooth also has a receded nerve from a long-

> standing abcess below. The dentist recommends a root canal and a

post,

> then reglue the crown. Any advice?

> Thanks, Mark

>

>

>

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from what i understand its called a bridge or partial.

my root canalled tooth is a molar

>

> >My sister recently had to make this decision, and decided to have the

> tooth pulled.--------->Jackie

>

> >MY huggins dentist who was fantastic said he hears from his oral

> >surgeon friends who remove root canals that there they regularly find

> >a lot of gnarly stuff when they are removed (NOT IN ALL CASES)

> >but my personal view is it has to go

>

>

> ------Did she just leave a whole? I have 2 root canals that I am

> thinking of having removed, but my vanity is flaring up at the thought

> of 2 great big gaps in my jaw... Are there safe things that can be

> done to create a " tooth' ______ deborah

>

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In frequent-dose-chelation Deborah Edmeades wrote:

>My sister recently had to make this decision, and decided to have the

tooth pulled.--------->Jackie

>MY huggins dentist who was fantastic said he hears from his oral

>surgeon friends who remove root canals that there they regularly find

>a lot of gnarly stuff when they are removed (NOT IN ALL CASES)

>but my personal view is it has to go

------Did she just leave a whole? I have 2 root canals that I am

thinking of having removed, but my vanity is flaring up at the thought

of 2 great big gaps in my jaw... Are there safe things that can be

done to create a " tooth' ______ deborah

---------For right now she has a gap and has one of those temporary flippers

(or flapper?). It fills the gap, but is not meant for chewing on, and she can

easily take it in and out. She wasn't sure if she wanted a bridge, because of

the grinding down of the adjacent teeth, so this was a good option for now. I

don't know alot about all the options, because I have never had a crown or

bridge or root canal myself. And if you believe Huggins, he says that posts

aren't good either, because he says any metal put into bone will eventually

cause problems, even if its titanium. I'm not sure what Andy thinks about that.

Otherwise, I think Leo Cashman at DAMS (1-) is very knowledgeable

about dental options, just don't follow their chelation advice. Hopefully some

other members with personal experience can give you some more information.

Where are your root canals, in front or back?-------Jackie

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Hi Mark, I had a root canal and it was nothing but trouble. I even had

it refilled when a dentist suggested this. It finally formed a fistula

so I had it extracted. Come to find out when it was extracted the oral

surgeon said I had one heck of an infection well into my jaw bone, and

thus I was on antibiotics for some time to clear that up. Oddly enough

after it was extracted and cleaned out, the pulsating tinnitus in that

ear stopped. Previously an ENT doc had me go through a kazillion tests

to find the cause of the pulsating tinnitus. All test results were

negative and I was sent home to just deal with it. Also, since it was a

back tooth and unseen, I just left well enough alone. I can even chew

on that side with no problem. I just decided I didn't want any more

foreign garbage in my mouth. I will never ever had another root canal,

as I have been reading they are nothing but trouble anyway. V

>

> Snapped off a crowned tooth at the gumline last week and found it had

a

> tiny sliver of amalgam in it. Evidently the original butcher dentist

> drilled a long hole and somehow rounded out the bottom to " anchor "

the

> amalgam above. We had popped the cap last September and thought we

had

> gotten it all but discovered this sliver when the tooth broke off.

> Anyways, it's out but that tooth also has a receded nerve from a long-

> standing abcess below. The dentist recommends a root canal and a

post,

> then reglue the crown. Any advice?

> Thanks, Mark

>

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You can get a partial that is metal free. This would be one tooth that

you could remove. I agree on the bridge..I wouldn't grind down two

healthy teeth either.

I currently have that gap in my jaw you speak of, but no one can see

it..it's a back molar...and once it was healed up..I can chew on it.

Albeit not as well as when there was a tooth there, but I get by.

When I get some money..I will get a metal free partial for it.

This was the safest, non toxic thing I found. Implants are not good,

due to titanium and lack of jaw healing...etc. So the metal free

tooth..Your Huggins dentist should be able to make that for you. It is

acrylic I think with a porcelain tooth on it..kind of like a mini

retainer of sorts.

> ------Did she just leave a whole? I have 2 root canals that I am

> thinking of having removed, but my vanity is flaring up at the thought

> of 2 great big gaps in my jaw... Are there safe things that can be

> done to create a " tooth' ______ deborah

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Hi Mark

I was deadly ill, couldn't find out what was wrong, on DeanSA and Dr Hulda

's advice, I had 5 root canals removed and IMMEDIATELY started feeling

better.Or as we refer to them now, as " Rot Canals "

The more dentists and dental surgeons that become aware of cavitations and the

toxicity of root canals the better.

But don't hold your breath for too long....

At the end of the day, it is likely to be yourself that makes the decision about

whether you believe root canals are toxic or not.

And then take responsibility for leaving it or extracting it.

You are unlikely to find many dentists that outright stand-up and say " Root

canals are toxic. Get them out " .

There is a lot of literature available on the subject. The best is a book called

Root Canal Cover-up. You can buy it from Amazon for 19 UK Pounds.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0945196199?ie=UTF8&tag=livingnetwork-21&linkC\

ode=as2&camp=1634&creative=6738&creativeASIN=0945196199

" Root Canal Cover-Up was written by E. Meinig, D.D.S., F.A.C.D., one of

the 19 founding members of the official root canal therapy organization, the

American Association of Endodontists (Root canal specialists). "

Root canals are always infected to a greater or lesser degree. Since you don't

have a nerve in you,you usually cannot feel the infection, or it is produced by

non-puss forming bacteria. All root canals become surrounded by necrotic bone

the longer they are in as the toxins seep into the bone and cause damage, as

evidenced by the cavitat machine.

A root canal is really a dead tooth, and as they say, 'would you keep a dead

kidney in your body' :-)

Thanks for this answer DeanSA

KAI

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Hi Mark, I had a root canal and it was nothing but trouble. I even had

it refilled when a dentist suggested this. It finally formed a fistula

so I had it extracted. Come to find out when it was extracted the oral

surgeon said I had one heck of an infection well into my jaw bone, and

thus I was on antibiotics for some time to clear that up. Oddly enough

after it was extracted and cleaned out, the pulsating tinnitus in that

ear stopped. Previously an ENT doc had me go through a kazillion tests

to find the cause of the pulsating tinnitus. All test results were

negative and I was sent home to just deal with it. Also, since it was a

back tooth and unseen, I just left well enough alone. I can even chew

on that side with no problem. I just decided I didn't want any more

foreign garbage in my mouth. I will never ever had another root canal,

as I have been reading they are nothing but trouble anyway. V

>

> Snapped off a crowned tooth at the gumline last week and found it had

a

> tiny sliver of amalgam in it. Evidently the original butcher dentist

> drilled a long hole and somehow rounded out the bottom to " anchor "

the

> amalgam above. We had popped the cap last September and thought we

had

> gotten it all but discovered this sliver when the tooth broke off.

> Anyways, it's out but that tooth also has a receded nerve from a long-

> standing abcess below. The dentist recommends a root canal and a

post,

> then reglue the crown. Any advice?

> Thanks, Mark

>

[Guest guest]

I had 4 root canals removed end of Sept in Mexico because 3 dentist in

the usa wanted between 10 thou to 15 thou to do all sorts of things

form ozone to rebuilding the root canals. I had one holistic dentist

tell me that I looked well and if I had cancer then he would say to

remove them, I told him I dint want to wait to have cancer. It took

me a year to decide btw I had 2 metal post under 2 root canals and 3

of them were infected. I didnt feel comfortable chelating with metal

in my mouth. I know its a very hard decision and it depends on what

else is going on in your body , can your body handle the extra

stress?, mine coulndt.I hear some many are better after removing the

root canals rt away that has not been my case but I still think I made

the rt choice for me and I have been chelating for almost 3 months

with ups and downs but I feel moving in the rt direction. Good luck

and def read and do your research.

>

>

> >

> > Snapped off a crowned tooth at the gumline last week and found

it had

> a

> > tiny sliver of amalgam in it. Evidently the original butcher

dentist

> > drilled a long hole and somehow rounded out the bottom to " anchor "

> the

> > amalgam above. We had popped the cap last September and thought we

> had

> > gotten it all but discovered this sliver when the tooth broke off.

> > Anyways, it's out but that tooth also has a receded nerve from a

long-

> > standing abcess below. The dentist recommends a root canal and a

> post,

> > then reglue the crown. Any advice?

> > Thanks, Mark

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I had 4 root canals removed end of Sept in Mexico because 3 dentist in

the usa wanted between 10 thou to 15 thou to do all sorts of things

form ozone to rebuilding the root canals. I had one holistic dentist

tell me that I looked well and if I had cancer then he would say to

remove them, I told him I dint want to wait to have cancer. It took

me a year to decide btw I had 2 metal post under 2 root canals and 3

of them were infected. I didnt feel comfortable chelating with metal

in my mouth. I know its a very hard decision and it depends on what

else is going on in your body , can your body handle the extra

stress?, mine coulndt.I hear some many are better after removing the

root canals rt away that has not been my case but I still think I made

the rt choice for me and I have been chelating for almost 3 months

with ups and downs but I feel moving in the rt direction. Good luck

and def read and do your research.

>

>

> >

> > Snapped off a crowned tooth at the gumline last week and found

it had

> a

> > tiny sliver of amalgam in it. Evidently the original butcher

dentist

> > drilled a long hole and somehow rounded out the bottom to " anchor "

> the

> > amalgam above. We had popped the cap last September and thought we

> had

> > gotten it all but discovered this sliver when the tooth broke off.

> > Anyways, it's out but that tooth also has a receded nerve from a

long-

> > standing abcess below. The dentist recommends a root canal and a

> post,

> > then reglue the crown. Any advice?

> > Thanks, Mark

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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In frequent-dose-chelation Deborah Edmeades wrote:

>I had 4 root canals removed end of Sept in Mexico because 3 dentist in

>the usa wanted between 10 thou to 15 thou to do all sorts of things

>form ozone to rebuilding the root canals.

Where in Mexico did you go? I had no idea that t was that expensive

just to remove them.

---------I don't think she meant just removing them would cost this much, it

was all the other stuff they wanted to do that would cost alot

more.---------Jackie

Have others had to pay this much or go to Mexico for it? I was

thinking that I could remove them and live with the temporary filler

(or gap) while I save up to get the partial... or whatever... (have

not researched it yet)

------------My sister had a tooth pulled instead of getting a root canal done,

and made that decision with her mercury free dentist. She had it done by an

oral surgeon familiar with mercury free dentistry and proper cleaning of

cavitations, etc. here in the US (Minnesota, Mpls area). You could ask your

dentist for a referral to an oral surgeon that is familiar with these things, or

possibly Leo Cashman at DAMS could help you find someone.----------Jackie

deborah

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In frequent-dose-chelation Deborah Edmeades wrote:

>------------My sister had a tooth pulled instead of getting a root

canal done, and made that >decision with her mercury free dentist. She

had it done by an oral surgeon familiar with >mercury free dentistry

and proper cleaning of cavitations, etc. here in the US (Minnesota,

>Mpls area). You could ask your dentist for a referral to an oral

surgeon that is familiar with >these things, or possibly Leo Cashman

at DAMS could help you find someone.---------->Jackie

thanks. I am in Canada, but Cashman could probably still help me

out... oral surgery - ugghh

deborah

----------- J is from Canada, so maybe you could ask her, if you guys

happen to be anywhere near each other.---------Jackie

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