RE: Way of lowering high cysteine?

[Guest guest]

>

> Just a thought, and I have *no idea* if this works or makes any

sense, but here goes.

>

> In AI, Andy says if you are low glutathione, you can raise it by

taking the precursors in this ratio:

> 4 parts NAC to 2 parts glutamine to 1 part glycine.

>

> Now, if you are high cysteine, you won't tolerate the NAC, and

shouldn't take it. And I believe Andy has said (I might have heard

say it) that in this case, to just take the glutamine and

glycine, because you already have the cysteine. So this all makes

sense to me.

I think this came up long ago on the amc list. Andy mentioned it as

a possibility at one point and then a few months later said it

doesn't work.

> Here's my question. Would doing this help to lower your cysteine

levels? Would some of your high or excess cysteine be used with the

glutamine and glycine to make glutathione, thus lowering your cysteine

levles? Does this make sense? Maybe a question for Andy? Comments

anyone?

I suppose the problem is you can throw the glutamine and glycine

into the mix, but the process of putting them together with cysteine

doesn't necessarily work. Besides, in AI, he says you need to take

glutamine, glycine, and NAC (not just plain cysteine) to make

glutathione.

--

> Jackie

[Guest guest]

In frequent-dose-chelation wrote:

>

> Just a thought, and I have *no idea* if this works or makes any

sense, but here goes.

>

> In AI, Andy says if you are low glutathione, you can raise it by

taking the precursors in this ratio:

> 4 parts NAC to 2 parts glutamine to 1 part glycine.

>

> Now, if you are high cysteine, you won't tolerate the NAC, and

shouldn't take it. And I believe Andy has said (I might have heard

say it) that in this case, to just take the glutamine and

glycine, because you already have the cysteine. So this all makes

sense to me.

I think this came up long ago on the amc list. Andy mentioned it as

a possibility at one point and then a few months later said it

doesn't work.

----------Thanks . I must have missed that or not been around for

awhile. And I should have known that if it was that simple, then Andy would

know about it and have people doing it! Too bad it doesn't work

though!----Jackie

> Here's my question. Would doing this help to lower your cysteine

levels? Would some of your high or excess cysteine be used with the

glutamine and glycine to make glutathione, thus lowering your cysteine

levles? Does this make sense? Maybe a question for Andy? Comments

anyone?

I suppose the problem is you can throw the glutamine and glycine

into the mix, but the process of putting them together with cysteine

doesn't necessarily work. Besides, in AI, he says you need to take

glutamine, glycine, and NAC (not just plain cysteine) to make

glutathione.

--

> Jackie

[Guest guest]

I was never aware that I was sulphur intolerant. My favourite foods seem to be

all sulphur.it does not affect me immediately but from a few hours to a few days

later I feel bad from it. And I never made the connection until very recently

(only about one and a half years into chelating) I also tried to up my

glutothione by taking the NAC mix, got really unwell but kept using it in the

hope that it eventually will help make me feeling better. I finally had to give

that up as well.After a year and 10 months of chelating ,I still can only Barely

tolerate 3mg ALA. I've now taken 2 months off all chelation, I feel FANTASTIC.(

Just 2 years ago I was totally disfunctional, feeling every day like dying.) I'm

starting chelation again in a weeks time, lowering my DMSA from 33mg to 25mg and

slowly working up again, and 3mg ALA

I really want to solve this sulpher thing which I'm so suffering from. I found

in the archives something Andy said:

Again, as mentioned by Dr Cutler : " If you have elevated cysteine and you want

to convert some glutathione, take 2:1 weight ratio of glutamine and glycine and

your body will do the rest. "

I have been doing it the last 2 weeks when I suspect I've taken sulphur in

something (it seems to be hidden everywhere :-)). It really is helping me,

taken with Vit C and glad I've discovered that it helps, I don't feel so

anxious about the sulphur issue. Even if it is just a placebo that works for me,

becuse I see Stephani mentions that Andy later said it doesn't work.

I guess we're all such individuals. Maybe others with sulphur issues can try. I

don't think we have anything to loose.DeanSa suggested I take it daily to help

my liver pathway. I've done it for a week ,feel better and will continue taking

it until I have something to report about it.

Sorry that I don't have the link though,

Hope it's goin g to help some others too.

Kai

Re: Re: Way of lowering high cysteine?

In frequent-dose-chelation wrote:

>

> Just a thought, and I have *no idea* if this works or makes any

sense, but here goes.

>

> In AI, Andy says if you are low glutathione, you can raise it by

taking the precursors in this ratio:

> 4 parts NAC to 2 parts glutamine to 1 part glycine.

>

> Now, if you are high cysteine, you won't tolerate the NAC, and

shouldn't take it. And I believe Andy has said (I might have heard

say it) that in this case, to just take the glutamine and

glycine, because you already have the cysteine. So this all makes

sense to me.

I think this came up long ago on the amc list. Andy mentioned it as

a possibility at one point and then a few months later said it

doesn't work.

----------Thanks . I must have missed that or not been around for

awhile. And I should have known that if it was that simple, then Andy would know

about it and have people doing it! Too bad it doesn't work though!----Jackie

> Here's my question. Would doing this help to lower your cysteine

levels? Would some of your high or excess cysteine be used with the

glutamine and glycine to make glutathione, thus lowering your cysteine

levles? Does this make sense? Maybe a question for Andy? Comments

anyone?

I suppose the problem is you can throw the glutamine and glycine

into the mix, but the process of putting them together with cysteine

doesn't necessarily work. Besides, in AI, he says you need to take

glutamine, glycine, and NAC (not just plain cysteine) to make

glutathione.

--

> Jackie

[Guest guest]

I was never aware that I was sulphur intolerant. My favourite foods seem to be

all sulphur.it does not affect me immediately but from a few hours to a few days

later I feel bad from it. And I never made the connection until very recently

(only about one and a half years into chelating) I also tried to up my

glutothione by taking the NAC mix, got really unwell but kept using it in the

hope that it eventually will help make me feeling better. I finally had to give

that up as well.After a year and 10 months of chelating ,I still can only Barely

tolerate 3mg ALA. I've now taken 2 months off all chelation, I feel FANTASTIC.(

Just 2 years ago I was totally disfunctional, feeling every day like dying.) I'm

starting chelation again in a weeks time, lowering my DMSA from 33mg to 25mg and

slowly working up again, and 3mg ALA

I really want to solve this sulpher thing which I'm so suffering from. I found

in the archives something Andy said:

Again, as mentioned by Dr Cutler : " If you have elevated cysteine and you want

to convert some glutathione, take 2:1 weight ratio of glutamine and glycine and

your body will do the rest. "

I have been doing it the last 2 weeks when I suspect I've taken sulphur in

something (it seems to be hidden everywhere :-)). It really is helping me,

taken with Vit C and glad I've discovered that it helps, I don't feel so

anxious about the sulphur issue. Even if it is just a placebo that works for me,

becuse I see Stephani mentions that Andy later said it doesn't work.

I guess we're all such individuals. Maybe others with sulphur issues can try. I

don't think we have anything to loose.DeanSa suggested I take it daily to help

my liver pathway. I've done it for a week ,feel better and will continue taking

it until I have something to report about it.

Sorry that I don't have the link though,

Hope it's goin g to help some others too.

Kai

Re: Re: Way of lowering high cysteine?

In frequent-dose-chelation wrote:

>

> Just a thought, and I have *no idea* if this works or makes any

sense, but here goes.

>

> In AI, Andy says if you are low glutathione, you can raise it by

taking the precursors in this ratio:

> 4 parts NAC to 2 parts glutamine to 1 part glycine.

>

> Now, if you are high cysteine, you won't tolerate the NAC, and

shouldn't take it. And I believe Andy has said (I might have heard

say it) that in this case, to just take the glutamine and

glycine, because you already have the cysteine. So this all makes

sense to me.

I think this came up long ago on the amc list. Andy mentioned it as

a possibility at one point and then a few months later said it

doesn't work.

----------Thanks . I must have missed that or not been around for

awhile. And I should have known that if it was that simple, then Andy would know

about it and have people doing it! Too bad it doesn't work though!----Jackie

> Here's my question. Would doing this help to lower your cysteine

levels? Would some of your high or excess cysteine be used with the

glutamine and glycine to make glutathione, thus lowering your cysteine

levles? Does this make sense? Maybe a question for Andy? Comments

anyone?

I suppose the problem is you can throw the glutamine and glycine

into the mix, but the process of putting them together with cysteine

doesn't necessarily work. Besides, in AI, he says you need to take

glutamine, glycine, and NAC (not just plain cysteine) to make

glutathione.

--

> Jackie

[Guest guest]

I was never aware that I was sulphur intolerant. My favourite foods seem to be

all sulphur.it does not affect me immediately but from a few hours to a few days

later I feel bad from it. And I never made the connection until very recently

(only about one and a half years into chelating) I also tried to up my

glutothione by taking the NAC mix, got really unwell but kept using it in the

hope that it eventually will help make me feeling better. I finally had to give

that up as well.After a year and 10 months of chelating ,I still can only Barely

tolerate 3mg ALA. I've now taken 2 months off all chelation, I feel FANTASTIC.(

Just 2 years ago I was totally disfunctional, feeling every day like dying.) I'm

starting chelation again in a weeks time, lowering my DMSA from 33mg to 25mg and

slowly working up again, and 3mg ALA

I really want to solve this sulpher thing which I'm so suffering from. I found

in the archives something Andy said:

Again, as mentioned by Dr Cutler : " If you have elevated cysteine and you want

to convert some glutathione, take 2:1 weight ratio of glutamine and glycine and

your body will do the rest. "

I have been doing it the last 2 weeks when I suspect I've taken sulphur in

something (it seems to be hidden everywhere :-)). It really is helping me,

taken with Vit C and glad I've discovered that it helps, I don't feel so

anxious about the sulphur issue. Even if it is just a placebo that works for me,

becuse I see Stephani mentions that Andy later said it doesn't work.

I guess we're all such individuals. Maybe others with sulphur issues can try. I

don't think we have anything to loose.DeanSa suggested I take it daily to help

my liver pathway. I've done it for a week ,feel better and will continue taking

it until I have something to report about it.

Sorry that I don't have the link though,

Hope it's goin g to help some others too.

Kai

Re: Re: Way of lowering high cysteine?

In frequent-dose-chelation wrote:

>

> Just a thought, and I have *no idea* if this works or makes any

sense, but here goes.

>

> In AI, Andy says if you are low glutathione, you can raise it by

taking the precursors in this ratio:

> 4 parts NAC to 2 parts glutamine to 1 part glycine.

>

> Now, if you are high cysteine, you won't tolerate the NAC, and

shouldn't take it. And I believe Andy has said (I might have heard

say it) that in this case, to just take the glutamine and

glycine, because you already have the cysteine. So this all makes

sense to me.

I think this came up long ago on the amc list. Andy mentioned it as

a possibility at one point and then a few months later said it

doesn't work.

----------Thanks . I must have missed that or not been around for

awhile. And I should have known that if it was that simple, then Andy would know

about it and have people doing it! Too bad it doesn't work though!----Jackie

> Here's my question. Would doing this help to lower your cysteine

levels? Would some of your high or excess cysteine be used with the

glutamine and glycine to make glutathione, thus lowering your cysteine

levles? Does this make sense? Maybe a question for Andy? Comments

anyone?

I suppose the problem is you can throw the glutamine and glycine

into the mix, but the process of putting them together with cysteine

doesn't necessarily work. Besides, in AI, he says you need to take

glutamine, glycine, and NAC (not just plain cysteine) to make

glutathione.

--

> Jackie

[Guest guest]

Jackie -

The suggestion to take the precursors is for people who are low in

sulfur. For the rest of us, the way to increase glutathione, is to take

other anti-oxidants, which will help preserve some of the glutathione

which is being gobbled up by oxidative activity.

As for lowering cysteine, you do that by restricting it in the diet.

There will still be more anyway, you can't get it all out. If, in

addition, you want to take the other precursors to glutathione, I

suppose it couldn't do any harm. I don't think it's going to solve the

high sulfur problem though. You will still need to restrict dietary intake.

Dave.

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Posted by: " Jackie " jtrunt@...

jtrunt@...?Subject=%20Re%3AWay%20of%20lowering%20high%20cyst\

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jackietutts http://profiles.yahoo.com/jackietutts>

Sat Mar 29, 2008 8:55 pm (PDT)

Just a thought, and I have *no idea* if this works or makes any sense,

but here goes.

In AI, Andy says if you are low glutathione, you can raise it by taking

the precursors in this ratio:

4 parts NAC to 2 parts glutamine to 1 part glycine.

Now, if you are high cysteine, you won't tolerate the NAC, and shouldn't

take it. And I believe Andy has said (I might have heard say it)

that in this case, to just take the glutamine and glycine, because you

already have the cysteine. So this all makes sense to me.

Here's my question. Would doing this help to lower your cysteine levels?

Would some of your high or excess cysteine be used with the glutamine

and glycine to make glutathione, thus lowering your cysteine levles?

Does this make sense? Maybe a question for Andy? Comments anyone?

Jackie

[Guest guest]

>

> Jackie -

>

> The suggestion to take the precursors is for people who are low in

> sulfur.

People who are high sulfur will benefit from glutamine and glycine

(two precursors) too. They just leave out NAC (a source of cysteine,

the other precursor, and increase other antioxidants.

For the rest of us, the way to increase glutathione, is to take

> other anti-oxidants, which will help preserve some of the glutathione

> which is being gobbled up by oxidative activity.

>

> As for lowering cysteine, you do that by restricting it in the diet.

Yes, of course, that helps a lot.

> There will still be more anyway, you can't get it all out. If, in

> addition, you want to take the other precursors to glutathione, I

> suppose it couldn't do any harm. I don't think it's going to solve the

> high sulfur problem though.

Adding the glutamine and glycine isn't going to solve the high sulfur

problem (in this case). It is meant to give the necessary building

blocks to make glutathione, plus the other various body components

that need those two amino acids.

You will still need to restrict dietary intake.

>

> Dave.

> -----------

>

>

> Posted by: " Jackie " jtrunt@...

>

> jackietutts http://profiles.yahoo.com/jackietutts>

>

>

> Sat Mar 29, 2008 8:55 pm (PDT)

>

> Just a thought, and I have *no idea* if this works or makes any sense,

> but here goes.

>

> In AI, Andy says if you are low glutathione, you can raise it by taking

> the precursors in this ratio:

> 4 parts NAC to 2 parts glutamine to 1 part glycine.

>

> Now, if you are high cysteine, you won't tolerate the NAC, and

shouldn't

> take it. And I believe Andy has said (I might have heard say it)

> that in this case, to just take the glutamine and glycine, because you

> already have the cysteine. So this all makes sense to me.

>

> Here's my question. Would doing this help to lower your cysteine

levels?

It might help a bit. It makes sense. The enzymes might be blocked.

When enzyme reactions are proceeding slowly one of the ways to push

the reaction is to add more precursors.

The biggest thing to do to help is restrict dietary intake until

sulfur foods are tolerated.

J

> Would some of your high or excess cysteine be used with the glutamine

> and glycine to make glutathione, thus lowering your cysteine levles?

> Does this make sense? Maybe a question for Andy? Comments anyone?

>

> Jackie

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Jackie -

>

> The suggestion to take the precursors is for people who are low in

> sulfur.

People who are high sulfur will benefit from glutamine and glycine

(two precursors) too. They just leave out NAC (a source of cysteine,

the other precursor, and increase other antioxidants.

For the rest of us, the way to increase glutathione, is to take

> other anti-oxidants, which will help preserve some of the glutathione

> which is being gobbled up by oxidative activity.

>

> As for lowering cysteine, you do that by restricting it in the diet.

Yes, of course, that helps a lot.

> There will still be more anyway, you can't get it all out. If, in

> addition, you want to take the other precursors to glutathione, I

> suppose it couldn't do any harm. I don't think it's going to solve the

> high sulfur problem though.

Adding the glutamine and glycine isn't going to solve the high sulfur

problem (in this case). It is meant to give the necessary building

blocks to make glutathione, plus the other various body components

that need those two amino acids.

You will still need to restrict dietary intake.

>

> Dave.

> -----------

>

>

> Posted by: " Jackie " jtrunt@...

>

> jackietutts http://profiles.yahoo.com/jackietutts>

>

>

> Sat Mar 29, 2008 8:55 pm (PDT)

>

> Just a thought, and I have *no idea* if this works or makes any sense,

> but here goes.

>

> In AI, Andy says if you are low glutathione, you can raise it by taking

> the precursors in this ratio:

> 4 parts NAC to 2 parts glutamine to 1 part glycine.

>

> Now, if you are high cysteine, you won't tolerate the NAC, and

shouldn't

> take it. And I believe Andy has said (I might have heard say it)

> that in this case, to just take the glutamine and glycine, because you

> already have the cysteine. So this all makes sense to me.

>

> Here's my question. Would doing this help to lower your cysteine

levels?

It might help a bit. It makes sense. The enzymes might be blocked.

When enzyme reactions are proceeding slowly one of the ways to push

the reaction is to add more precursors.

The biggest thing to do to help is restrict dietary intake until

sulfur foods are tolerated.

J

> Would some of your high or excess cysteine be used with the glutamine

> and glycine to make glutathione, thus lowering your cysteine levles?

> Does this make sense? Maybe a question for Andy? Comments anyone?

>

> Jackie

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Jackie -

>

> The suggestion to take the precursors is for people who are low in

> sulfur.

People who are high sulfur will benefit from glutamine and glycine

(two precursors) too. They just leave out NAC (a source of cysteine,

the other precursor, and increase other antioxidants.

For the rest of us, the way to increase glutathione, is to take

> other anti-oxidants, which will help preserve some of the glutathione

> which is being gobbled up by oxidative activity.

>

> As for lowering cysteine, you do that by restricting it in the diet.

Yes, of course, that helps a lot.

> There will still be more anyway, you can't get it all out. If, in

> addition, you want to take the other precursors to glutathione, I

> suppose it couldn't do any harm. I don't think it's going to solve the

> high sulfur problem though.

Adding the glutamine and glycine isn't going to solve the high sulfur

problem (in this case). It is meant to give the necessary building

blocks to make glutathione, plus the other various body components

that need those two amino acids.

You will still need to restrict dietary intake.

>

> Dave.

> -----------

>

>

> Posted by: " Jackie " jtrunt@...

>

> jackietutts http://profiles.yahoo.com/jackietutts>

>

>

> Sat Mar 29, 2008 8:55 pm (PDT)

>

> Just a thought, and I have *no idea* if this works or makes any sense,

> but here goes.

>

> In AI, Andy says if you are low glutathione, you can raise it by taking

> the precursors in this ratio:

> 4 parts NAC to 2 parts glutamine to 1 part glycine.

>

> Now, if you are high cysteine, you won't tolerate the NAC, and

shouldn't

> take it. And I believe Andy has said (I might have heard say it)

> that in this case, to just take the glutamine and glycine, because you

> already have the cysteine. So this all makes sense to me.

>

> Here's my question. Would doing this help to lower your cysteine

levels?

It might help a bit. It makes sense. The enzymes might be blocked.

When enzyme reactions are proceeding slowly one of the ways to push

the reaction is to add more precursors.

The biggest thing to do to help is restrict dietary intake until

sulfur foods are tolerated.

J

> Would some of your high or excess cysteine be used with the glutamine

> and glycine to make glutathione, thus lowering your cysteine levles?

> Does this make sense? Maybe a question for Andy? Comments anyone?

>

> Jackie

>