Guest guest Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 Hi Alessa this all sounds very familiar, although my peaks and troughs have eased a bit, 19 months after amalgam removal and after 8 months chelation with DMSA. I put the erratic nature of recovery down to the body's own detox - some days you're dumping mercury, some days you're not - and this can effect energy and mood. After two years on HC and thyroid hormone (Armour and T3) I have found it nigh impossible to find the right dose for a body that is in a state of flux, and whose requirements also vary from winter to summer. Female hormone swings also come into play, and can knock me out for a day (like yesterday). Personally I would stay away from psychiatric drugs, and concentrate on chelating and balancing hormones, as far as you can. I have also learned to go with the flow - if my body is tired one day, then I rest up with my cats and a DVD. On a higher energy day, I get done what I can. It is difficult and irritating to have such energy swings, but this is a long process and we might as well get used to it ... My two cents... Nicola -- In frequent-dose-chelation , " foralessa " wrote: > > Hi there, > I've written about thyroid/adrenal issues and depression/fatigue here before. > But what's really baffling to me is how much it changes. I'd like to hear if anyone else > experiences the shifts. > One day I can be so fatigued/low blood pressure/depression/cold/slow metabolism that I > can barely get out of bed and a shower takes too much energy. I'm out of breath. My hair > falls out and I can't concentrate or read. > Then, the very next day, I'm completely different - energy revived, clear thinking, > metabolism up and running and back in action. But I haven't changed anything. > I've had doctors suggest I'm bipolar but that doesn't make sense to me because why would > I get cold and have my hair fall out, etc. if it were bipolar disorder. I don't think that fits. > But I haven't heard much about the back and forth on this list. > It seems like just when I prepare for one thing (setting up friends to help with groceries, > apply for disability, ask family to send movies when I'm down), the change happens and I > find myself up and running again. > On the other hand, I can be up and running - feeling fine and I'll do something really crazy > (like get a job, lol) and then crash so hard I can't actually do the job. > My family has suggested I go on psychiatric meds which I've tried many times in the past > (almost always with horrendous results) and I'm reticent to try again but I will if I have to. > Does this scenario sound familiar to anyone else? > Have you found any way to stabilize yourself? > I'm already on HC and thyroid meds and thinking about trying ACE as well (as per the > recent posts). > As always, suggestions are HUGELY appreciated. > I'm so grateful to this list. > :^) > Alessa > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 Hi Alessa this all sounds very familiar, although my peaks and troughs have eased a bit, 19 months after amalgam removal and after 8 months chelation with DMSA. I put the erratic nature of recovery down to the body's own detox - some days you're dumping mercury, some days you're not - and this can effect energy and mood. After two years on HC and thyroid hormone (Armour and T3) I have found it nigh impossible to find the right dose for a body that is in a state of flux, and whose requirements also vary from winter to summer. Female hormone swings also come into play, and can knock me out for a day (like yesterday). Personally I would stay away from psychiatric drugs, and concentrate on chelating and balancing hormones, as far as you can. I have also learned to go with the flow - if my body is tired one day, then I rest up with my cats and a DVD. On a higher energy day, I get done what I can. It is difficult and irritating to have such energy swings, but this is a long process and we might as well get used to it ... My two cents... Nicola -- In frequent-dose-chelation , " foralessa " wrote: > > Hi there, > I've written about thyroid/adrenal issues and depression/fatigue here before. > But what's really baffling to me is how much it changes. I'd like to hear if anyone else > experiences the shifts. > One day I can be so fatigued/low blood pressure/depression/cold/slow metabolism that I > can barely get out of bed and a shower takes too much energy. I'm out of breath. My hair > falls out and I can't concentrate or read. > Then, the very next day, I'm completely different - energy revived, clear thinking, > metabolism up and running and back in action. But I haven't changed anything. > I've had doctors suggest I'm bipolar but that doesn't make sense to me because why would > I get cold and have my hair fall out, etc. if it were bipolar disorder. I don't think that fits. > But I haven't heard much about the back and forth on this list. > It seems like just when I prepare for one thing (setting up friends to help with groceries, > apply for disability, ask family to send movies when I'm down), the change happens and I > find myself up and running again. > On the other hand, I can be up and running - feeling fine and I'll do something really crazy > (like get a job, lol) and then crash so hard I can't actually do the job. > My family has suggested I go on psychiatric meds which I've tried many times in the past > (almost always with horrendous results) and I'm reticent to try again but I will if I have to. > Does this scenario sound familiar to anyone else? > Have you found any way to stabilize yourself? > I'm already on HC and thyroid meds and thinking about trying ACE as well (as per the > recent posts). > As always, suggestions are HUGELY appreciated. > I'm so grateful to this list. > :^) > Alessa > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 In frequent-dose-chelation Nicola wrote: Hi Alessa this all sounds very familiar, although my peaks and troughs have eased a bit, 19 months after amalgam removal and after 8 months chelation with DMSA. I put the erratic nature of recovery down to the body's own detox - some days you're dumping mercury, some days you're not - and this can effect energy and mood. After two years on HC and thyroid hormone (Armour and T3) I have found it nigh impossible to find the right dose for a body that is in a state of flux, and whose requirements also vary from winter to summer. Female hormone swings also come into play, and can knock me out for a day (like yesterday). Personally I would stay away from psychiatric drugs, and concentrate on chelating and balancing hormones, as far as you can. I have also learned to go with the flow - if my body is tired one day, then I rest up with my cats and a DVD. On a higher energy day, I get done what I can. It is difficult and irritating to have such energy swings, but this is a long process and we might as well get used to it ... --------------Very well put, Nicola, and I would have to agree, the fluctuations are hard to figure out and to handle. But like you, I have learned to not push myself, and only do so much, and I think that is the way to go. I think our bodies have alot of detoxing and healing to do, and this is all very taxing on them, and rest is important. And avoiding as much stress as possible and babying our adrenals as much as we can is important too. I think I'm finally getting that.-----------Jackie My two cents... Nicola -- In frequent-dose-chelation , " foralessa " wrote: > > Hi there, > I've written about thyroid/adrenal issues and depression/fatigue here before. > But what's really baffling to me is how much it changes. I'd like to hear if anyone else > experiences the shifts. > One day I can be so fatigued/low blood pressure/depression/cold/slow metabolism that I > can barely get out of bed and a shower takes too much energy. I'm out of breath. My hair > falls out and I can't concentrate or read. > Then, the very next day, I'm completely different - energy revived, clear thinking, > metabolism up and running and back in action. But I haven't changed anything. > I've had doctors suggest I'm bipolar but that doesn't make sense to me because why would > I get cold and have my hair fall out, etc. if it were bipolar disorder. I don't think that fits. > But I haven't heard much about the back and forth on this list. > It seems like just when I prepare for one thing (setting up friends to help with groceries, > apply for disability, ask family to send movies when I'm down), the change happens and I > find myself up and running again. > On the other hand, I can be up and running - feeling fine and I'll do something really crazy > (like get a job, lol) and then crash so hard I can't actually do the job. > My family has suggested I go on psychiatric meds which I've tried many times in the past > (almost always with horrendous results) and I'm reticent to try again but I will if I have to. > Does this scenario sound familiar to anyone else? > Have you found any way to stabilize yourself? > I'm already on HC and thyroid meds and thinking about trying ACE as well (as per the > recent posts). > As always, suggestions are HUGELY appreciated. > I'm so grateful to this list. > :^) > Alessa > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 In frequent-dose-chelation Nicola wrote: Hi Alessa this all sounds very familiar, although my peaks and troughs have eased a bit, 19 months after amalgam removal and after 8 months chelation with DMSA. I put the erratic nature of recovery down to the body's own detox - some days you're dumping mercury, some days you're not - and this can effect energy and mood. After two years on HC and thyroid hormone (Armour and T3) I have found it nigh impossible to find the right dose for a body that is in a state of flux, and whose requirements also vary from winter to summer. Female hormone swings also come into play, and can knock me out for a day (like yesterday). Personally I would stay away from psychiatric drugs, and concentrate on chelating and balancing hormones, as far as you can. I have also learned to go with the flow - if my body is tired one day, then I rest up with my cats and a DVD. On a higher energy day, I get done what I can. It is difficult and irritating to have such energy swings, but this is a long process and we might as well get used to it ... --------------Very well put, Nicola, and I would have to agree, the fluctuations are hard to figure out and to handle. But like you, I have learned to not push myself, and only do so much, and I think that is the way to go. I think our bodies have alot of detoxing and healing to do, and this is all very taxing on them, and rest is important. And avoiding as much stress as possible and babying our adrenals as much as we can is important too. I think I'm finally getting that.-----------Jackie My two cents... Nicola -- In frequent-dose-chelation , " foralessa " wrote: > > Hi there, > I've written about thyroid/adrenal issues and depression/fatigue here before. > But what's really baffling to me is how much it changes. I'd like to hear if anyone else > experiences the shifts. > One day I can be so fatigued/low blood pressure/depression/cold/slow metabolism that I > can barely get out of bed and a shower takes too much energy. I'm out of breath. My hair > falls out and I can't concentrate or read. > Then, the very next day, I'm completely different - energy revived, clear thinking, > metabolism up and running and back in action. But I haven't changed anything. > I've had doctors suggest I'm bipolar but that doesn't make sense to me because why would > I get cold and have my hair fall out, etc. if it were bipolar disorder. I don't think that fits. > But I haven't heard much about the back and forth on this list. > It seems like just when I prepare for one thing (setting up friends to help with groceries, > apply for disability, ask family to send movies when I'm down), the change happens and I > find myself up and running again. > On the other hand, I can be up and running - feeling fine and I'll do something really crazy > (like get a job, lol) and then crash so hard I can't actually do the job. > My family has suggested I go on psychiatric meds which I've tried many times in the past > (almost always with horrendous results) and I'm reticent to try again but I will if I have to. > Does this scenario sound familiar to anyone else? > Have you found any way to stabilize yourself? > I'm already on HC and thyroid meds and thinking about trying ACE as well (as per the > recent posts). > As always, suggestions are HUGELY appreciated. > I'm so grateful to this list. > :^) > Alessa > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 In frequent-dose-chelation Nicola wrote: Hi Alessa this all sounds very familiar, although my peaks and troughs have eased a bit, 19 months after amalgam removal and after 8 months chelation with DMSA. I put the erratic nature of recovery down to the body's own detox - some days you're dumping mercury, some days you're not - and this can effect energy and mood. After two years on HC and thyroid hormone (Armour and T3) I have found it nigh impossible to find the right dose for a body that is in a state of flux, and whose requirements also vary from winter to summer. Female hormone swings also come into play, and can knock me out for a day (like yesterday). Personally I would stay away from psychiatric drugs, and concentrate on chelating and balancing hormones, as far as you can. I have also learned to go with the flow - if my body is tired one day, then I rest up with my cats and a DVD. On a higher energy day, I get done what I can. It is difficult and irritating to have such energy swings, but this is a long process and we might as well get used to it ... --------------Very well put, Nicola, and I would have to agree, the fluctuations are hard to figure out and to handle. But like you, I have learned to not push myself, and only do so much, and I think that is the way to go. I think our bodies have alot of detoxing and healing to do, and this is all very taxing on them, and rest is important. And avoiding as much stress as possible and babying our adrenals as much as we can is important too. I think I'm finally getting that.-----------Jackie My two cents... Nicola -- In frequent-dose-chelation , " foralessa " wrote: > > Hi there, > I've written about thyroid/adrenal issues and depression/fatigue here before. > But what's really baffling to me is how much it changes. I'd like to hear if anyone else > experiences the shifts. > One day I can be so fatigued/low blood pressure/depression/cold/slow metabolism that I > can barely get out of bed and a shower takes too much energy. I'm out of breath. My hair > falls out and I can't concentrate or read. > Then, the very next day, I'm completely different - energy revived, clear thinking, > metabolism up and running and back in action. But I haven't changed anything. > I've had doctors suggest I'm bipolar but that doesn't make sense to me because why would > I get cold and have my hair fall out, etc. if it were bipolar disorder. I don't think that fits. > But I haven't heard much about the back and forth on this list. > It seems like just when I prepare for one thing (setting up friends to help with groceries, > apply for disability, ask family to send movies when I'm down), the change happens and I > find myself up and running again. > On the other hand, I can be up and running - feeling fine and I'll do something really crazy > (like get a job, lol) and then crash so hard I can't actually do the job. > My family has suggested I go on psychiatric meds which I've tried many times in the past > (almost always with horrendous results) and I'm reticent to try again but I will if I have to. > Does this scenario sound familiar to anyone else? > Have you found any way to stabilize yourself? > I'm already on HC and thyroid meds and thinking about trying ACE as well (as per the > recent posts). > As always, suggestions are HUGELY appreciated. > I'm so grateful to this list. > :^) > Alessa > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 Alessa, I can relate to your story as far as body symptoms. One day my body hurts in one particular spot or all over then the next day , no pain. Also my energy levels vary from days days. Have you notice if the weather makes you feel different? I have headaches, sl inflammation of the head the days when the weather changes, incoming storm like some people do in their joints. Mine is scary thought due to it being my head. Reason enough to chelate using ala and dmsa. Are you eating diff things on diff days? You had amalgam in your mouth, root canals and vaccines? If you aren't on supplements those that Andy recommends , start rt away. Also how are your thyroid and adrenals? Are you staying away from process foods that contain things like msg, sulfites etc? Lots of luck, Vivian > > Hi there, > I've written about thyroid/adrenal issues and depression/fatigue here before. > But what's really baffling to me is how much it changes. I'd like to hear if anyone else > experiences the shifts. > One day I can be so fatigued/low blood pressure/depression/cold/slow metabolism that I > can barely get out of bed and a shower takes too much energy. I'm out of breath. My hair > falls out and I can't concentrate or read. > Then, the very next day, I'm completely different - energy revived, clear thinking, > metabolism up and running and back in action. But I haven't changed anything. > I've had doctors suggest I'm bipolar but that doesn't make sense to me because why would > I get cold and have my hair fall out, etc. if it were bipolar disorder. I don't think that fits. > But I haven't heard much about the back and forth on this list. > It seems like just when I prepare for one thing (setting up friends to help with groceries, > apply for disability, ask family to send movies when I'm down), the change happens and I > find myself up and running again. > On the other hand, I can be up and running - feeling fine and I'll do something really crazy > (like get a job, lol) and then crash so hard I can't actually do the job. > My family has suggested I go on psychiatric meds which I've tried many times in the past > (almost always with horrendous results) and I'm reticent to try again but I will if I have to. > Does this scenario sound familiar to anyone else? > Have you found any way to stabilize yourself? > I'm already on HC and thyroid meds and thinking about trying ACE as well (as per the > recent posts). > As always, suggestions are HUGELY appreciated. > I'm so grateful to this list. > :^) > Alessa > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 > > Hi there, > I've written about thyroid/adrenal issues and depression/fatigue here before. > But what's really baffling to me is how much it changes. I'd like to hear if anyone else > experiences the shifts. > One day I can be so fatigued/low blood pressure/depression/cold/slow metabolism that I > can barely get out of bed and a shower takes too much energy. I'm out of breath. My hair > falls out and I can't concentrate or read. > Then, the very next day, I'm completely different - energy revived, clear thinking, > metabolism up and running and back in action. But I haven't changed anything. I can identify with this. > I've had doctors suggest I'm bipolar but that doesn't make sense to me because why would > I get cold and have my hair fall out, etc. if it were bipolar disorder. I don't think that fits. It could fit with some type of bipolar. In a way, I think bipolar is an extreme presentation of a type of adrenal problem. From what you described, it doesn't sound like you are doing anything inappropriate or troubling during the " up " periods. Sounds more like you feel " normal " in the up periods and non-functional during the down periods. If this is the case, then I would work on treating your hormones vs using medications for now. Another thought that comes to mind is a problem with sulfur foods. You can't be sure about this until you exclude them for at least a week and then challenge. Have you read Andy's comments on depression in the files section? See depression under the Andy index subject links. Maybe this will give you some ideas to try. > But I haven't heard much about the back and forth on this list. > It seems like just when I prepare for one thing (setting up friends to help with groceries, > apply for disability, ask family to send movies when I'm down), the change happens and I > find myself up and running again. > On the other hand, I can be up and running - feeling fine and I'll do something really crazy > (like get a job, lol) and then crash so hard I can't actually do the job. > My family has suggested I go on psychiatric meds which I've tried many times in the past > (almost always with horrendous results) and I'm reticent to try again but I will if I have to. If you had horrendous results with the meds you tried, then they were the wrong ones or maybe a dosage problem. Also maybe you need the hormones in a better place before trying meds? Not sure about that, just an idea. For me, menstrual cycle had a huge effect on how my body and mind were functioning - I wonder if that is a factor for you? Balancing sex hormones might make a difference. > Does this scenario sound familiar to anyone else? The difference with me was that I could be up and down multiple times in one day. And my ups and downs were a bit different and the issues this caused were a bit different. But I definitely identify with the confusion and uncertainty it causes. > Have you found any way to stabilize yourself? I am much more stable on hormone support and various supplements. > I'm already on HC and thyroid meds and thinking about trying ACE as well (as per the > recent posts). DHEA and sex hormones might be an issue, too. If you haven't addressed those, it could make a big difference. -- > As always, suggestions are HUGELY appreciated. > I'm so grateful to this list. > :^) > Alessa > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Hi Alessa, Stress changes so much from day to day. Normally our body would adapt and make extra cortisol. When we have adrenal fatigue that doesn't happen and we crash with stress. Replacing cortisol helps to a certain point, but doesn't give us extra for stress unless we add extra. Most doctors will only let their patients add extra for the obvious physical stress of illness and big psychological stress like divorce and death. Yes, I am just about as unstable, even with all of the extra medications and supplements. I haven't used adrenal cortex consistently. I do think it would help. Sustained release T3 has helped me plus extra salt. I have been trying to resolve some of the things that give me stress. Pain, for example, gives me huge stress - because of the pain itself and all the things I can't get done. The addition of adequate pain medication has helped enormously. That is just one example. I'm going to a meditation workshop soon that is given by someone who specializes in treating people with chronic pain and chronic illness. I have always found that meditation and music and laughter help me a lot. J > > Hi there, > I've written about thyroid/adrenal issues and depression/fatigue here before. > But what's really baffling to me is how much it changes. I'd like to hear if anyone else > experiences the shifts. > One day I can be so fatigued/low blood pressure/depression/cold/slow metabolism that I > can barely get out of bed and a shower takes too much energy. I'm out of breath. My hair > falls out and I can't concentrate or read. > Then, the very next day, I'm completely different - energy revived, clear thinking, > metabolism up and running and back in action. But I haven't changed anything. > I've had doctors suggest I'm bipolar but that doesn't make sense to me because why would > I get cold and have my hair fall out, etc. if it were bipolar disorder. I don't think that fits. > But I haven't heard much about the back and forth on this list. > It seems like just when I prepare for one thing (setting up friends to help with groceries, > apply for disability, ask family to send movies when I'm down), the change happens and I > find myself up and running again. > On the other hand, I can be up and running - feeling fine and I'll do something really crazy > (like get a job, lol) and then crash so hard I can't actually do the job. > My family has suggested I go on psychiatric meds which I've tried many times in the past > (almost always with horrendous results) and I'm reticent to try again but I will if I have to. > Does this scenario sound familiar to anyone else? > Have you found any way to stabilize yourself? > I'm already on HC and thyroid meds and thinking about trying ACE as well (as per the > recent posts). > As always, suggestions are HUGELY appreciated. > I'm so grateful to this list. > :^) > Alessa > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Hi Alessa, Stress changes so much from day to day. Normally our body would adapt and make extra cortisol. When we have adrenal fatigue that doesn't happen and we crash with stress. Replacing cortisol helps to a certain point, but doesn't give us extra for stress unless we add extra. Most doctors will only let their patients add extra for the obvious physical stress of illness and big psychological stress like divorce and death. Yes, I am just about as unstable, even with all of the extra medications and supplements. I haven't used adrenal cortex consistently. I do think it would help. Sustained release T3 has helped me plus extra salt. I have been trying to resolve some of the things that give me stress. Pain, for example, gives me huge stress - because of the pain itself and all the things I can't get done. The addition of adequate pain medication has helped enormously. That is just one example. I'm going to a meditation workshop soon that is given by someone who specializes in treating people with chronic pain and chronic illness. I have always found that meditation and music and laughter help me a lot. J > > Hi there, > I've written about thyroid/adrenal issues and depression/fatigue here before. > But what's really baffling to me is how much it changes. I'd like to hear if anyone else > experiences the shifts. > One day I can be so fatigued/low blood pressure/depression/cold/slow metabolism that I > can barely get out of bed and a shower takes too much energy. I'm out of breath. My hair > falls out and I can't concentrate or read. > Then, the very next day, I'm completely different - energy revived, clear thinking, > metabolism up and running and back in action. But I haven't changed anything. > I've had doctors suggest I'm bipolar but that doesn't make sense to me because why would > I get cold and have my hair fall out, etc. if it were bipolar disorder. I don't think that fits. > But I haven't heard much about the back and forth on this list. > It seems like just when I prepare for one thing (setting up friends to help with groceries, > apply for disability, ask family to send movies when I'm down), the change happens and I > find myself up and running again. > On the other hand, I can be up and running - feeling fine and I'll do something really crazy > (like get a job, lol) and then crash so hard I can't actually do the job. > My family has suggested I go on psychiatric meds which I've tried many times in the past > (almost always with horrendous results) and I'm reticent to try again but I will if I have to. > Does this scenario sound familiar to anyone else? > Have you found any way to stabilize yourself? > I'm already on HC and thyroid meds and thinking about trying ACE as well (as per the > recent posts). > As always, suggestions are HUGELY appreciated. > I'm so grateful to this list. > :^) > Alessa > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Hello > Hi there, > I've written about thyroid/adrenal issues and depression/fatigue here before. But what's really baffling to me is how much it changes. I'd like to hear if anyone else experiences the shifts. > One day I can be so fatigued/low blood pressure/depression/cold/slow metabolism that I can barely get out of bed and a shower takes too much energy. I'm out of breath. My hair falls out and I can't concentrate or read. * i get fatigue due to fibromyalgia, circulation is depending on how bad my raynaurds is. i have been breathless when i had chronic fatigue syndrome. Reading and concentration require me to take omega oils, magnesium, calcium, milk thistle and 5htp each day so im ok. i find 30mins of reading wears me out on a good day but thats dyslexia for you. > Then, the very next day, I'm completely different - energy revived, clear thinking, metabolism up and running and back in action. But I haven't changed anything. * Yes that happens to me as well. Why dont you try going on butyoudontlooksick.com and putting your symptoms on there? They might be able to advise better than me but it sound like fibromylagia/chronic fatigue syndrome to me. Both conditions can occur with your adrenal and thyroid issues. > I've had doctors suggest I'm bipolar but that doesn't make sense to me because why would I get cold and have my hair fall out, etc. if it were bipolar disorder. I don't think that fits. * im inclined to agree with you. > But I haven't heard much about the back and forth on this list. > It seems like just when I prepare for one thing (setting up friends to help with groceries, apply for disability, ask family to send movies when I'm down), the change happens and I find myself up and running again. On the other hand, I can be up and running - feeling fine and I'll do something really crazy (like get a job, lol) and then crash so hard I can't actually do the job. * Sounds like you are doing too much so your bodys telling you " im slowing down as you wont " sort of thing. > My family has suggested I go on psychiatric meds which I've tried many times in the past (almost always with horrendous results) and I'm reticent to try again but I will if I have to. * Some antidepressants can help with pain and stiffness such as amyltriptyline (sp?). > Does this scenario sound familiar to anyone else? > Have you found any way to stabilize yourself? * Sounds like fibro to me. i just take each day one at a time and have an understanding college (high school) which is ok if i dont feel well enough to attend class (im part time). > I'm already on HC and thyroid meds and thinking about trying ACE as well (as per the recent posts). > As always, suggestions are HUGELY appreciated. > I'm so grateful to this list. * Me too and ive been here less than a week! is > :^) > Alessa > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Alessa, I understand your feelings completely. I have taken a break from chelation until I can get my adrenals and thyroid functioning more normally. Because I must hold down a full time job, my fatigue and emotional swings make it particularly difficult to function on the days when I don't feel well. The two supplements that have helped me most so far are HC and Omega 6. Michele > > Hi there, > I've written about thyroid/adrenal issues and depression/fatigue here before. > But what's really baffling to me is how much it changes. I'd like to hear if anyone else > experiences the shifts. > One day I can be so fatigued/low blood pressure/depression/cold/slow metabolism that I > can barely get out of bed and a shower takes too much energy. I'm out of breath. My hair > falls out and I can't concentrate or read. > Then, the very next day, I'm completely different - energy revived, clear thinking, > metabolism up and running and back in action. But I haven't changed anything. > I've had doctors suggest I'm bipolar but that doesn't make sense to me because why would > I get cold and have my hair fall out, etc. if it were bipolar disorder. I don't think that fits. > But I haven't heard much about the back and forth on this list. > It seems like just when I prepare for one thing (setting up friends to help with groceries, > apply for disability, ask family to send movies when I'm down), the change happens and I > find myself up and running again. > On the other hand, I can be up and running - feeling fine and I'll do something really crazy > (like get a job, lol) and then crash so hard I can't actually do the job. > My family has suggested I go on psychiatric meds which I've tried many times in the past > (almost always with horrendous results) and I'm reticent to try again but I will if I have to. > Does this scenario sound familiar to anyone else? > Have you found any way to stabilize yourself? > I'm already on HC and thyroid meds and thinking about trying ACE as well (as per the > recent posts). > As always, suggestions are HUGELY appreciated. > I'm so grateful to this list. > :^) > Alessa > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 Thanks to everyone for their responses. Sorry it's taken me so long to follow up. To answer some of the questions: I'm already on all the suppliments I can tolerate. I definitely can't tolerate iron though I'm always very low ferritin. I've also had trouble tolerating various hormones. Even small amounts of testosterone make me super angry even though my testerone is low. When I tried to go on progesterone, I got an ovarian cyst and wound up in emergency, and DHEA and pregnenalone made me very dopey and tired. I'm recently trying DHEA cream at 1/2 dose and have been able to tolerate it so far. Could be because my liver is in better shape now. I'm also trying ACE and upped my intake of milk thistle. I also just finished a long round (7 days) of DMSA 25mg. So far so good. After a good night sleep (which I hardly ever get), I woke up feeling energetic and downright hopeful. I have a job interview tomorrow and will have to be careful about the stress level. If I have to leave the job - well, so be it. My plan is to up my Cortef (I'm on 10mg now) and ACE if I feel myself slipping and see if that works. And I know I can get warm and fuzzy at the end of my emails but I do have to say thanks again. This group has so many intelligent, knowledgeable, giving and kind people on it. You have saved my life. :^) Alessa PS Did anyone see on PBS yesterday? http://www.brendawatson.com/ " Those who think they're too small to make a difference have never been in bed with a mosquito. " -Unknown ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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