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Hi Alessa

this all sounds very familiar, although my peaks and troughs have

eased a bit, 19 months after amalgam removal and after 8 months

chelation with DMSA. I put the erratic nature of recovery down to

the body's own detox - some days you're dumping mercury, some days

you're not - and this can effect energy and mood. After two years on

HC and thyroid hormone (Armour and T3) I have found it nigh

impossible to find the right dose for a body that is in a state of

flux, and whose requirements also vary from winter to summer. Female

hormone swings also come into play, and can knock me out for a day

(like yesterday).

Personally I would stay away from psychiatric drugs, and concentrate

on chelating and balancing hormones, as far as you can. I have also

learned to go with the flow - if my body is tired one day, then I

rest up with my cats and a DVD. On a higher energy day, I get done

what I can. It is difficult and irritating to have such energy

swings, but this is a long process and we might as well get used to

it ...

My two cents...

Nicola

-- In frequent-dose-chelation , " foralessa "

wrote:

>

> Hi there,

> I've written about thyroid/adrenal issues and depression/fatigue

here before.

> But what's really baffling to me is how much it changes. I'd like

to hear if anyone else

> experiences the shifts.

> One day I can be so fatigued/low blood

pressure/depression/cold/slow metabolism that I

> can barely get out of bed and a shower takes too much energy. I'm

out of breath. My hair

> falls out and I can't concentrate or read.

> Then, the very next day, I'm completely different - energy revived,

clear thinking,

> metabolism up and running and back in action. But I haven't changed

anything.

> I've had doctors suggest I'm bipolar but that doesn't make sense to

me because why would

> I get cold and have my hair fall out, etc. if it were bipolar

disorder. I don't think that fits.

> But I haven't heard much about the back and forth on this list.

> It seems like just when I prepare for one thing (setting up friends

to help with groceries,

> apply for disability, ask family to send movies when I'm down), the

change happens and I

> find myself up and running again.

> On the other hand, I can be up and running - feeling fine and I'll

do something really crazy

> (like get a job, lol) and then crash so hard I can't actually do

the job.

> My family has suggested I go on psychiatric meds which I've tried

many times in the past

> (almost always with horrendous results) and I'm reticent to try

again but I will if I have to.

> Does this scenario sound familiar to anyone else?

> Have you found any way to stabilize yourself?

> I'm already on HC and thyroid meds and thinking about trying ACE as

well (as per the

> recent posts).

> As always, suggestions are HUGELY appreciated.

> I'm so grateful to this list.

> :^)

> Alessa

>

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Hi Alessa

this all sounds very familiar, although my peaks and troughs have

eased a bit, 19 months after amalgam removal and after 8 months

chelation with DMSA. I put the erratic nature of recovery down to

the body's own detox - some days you're dumping mercury, some days

you're not - and this can effect energy and mood. After two years on

HC and thyroid hormone (Armour and T3) I have found it nigh

impossible to find the right dose for a body that is in a state of

flux, and whose requirements also vary from winter to summer. Female

hormone swings also come into play, and can knock me out for a day

(like yesterday).

Personally I would stay away from psychiatric drugs, and concentrate

on chelating and balancing hormones, as far as you can. I have also

learned to go with the flow - if my body is tired one day, then I

rest up with my cats and a DVD. On a higher energy day, I get done

what I can. It is difficult and irritating to have such energy

swings, but this is a long process and we might as well get used to

it ...

My two cents...

Nicola

-- In frequent-dose-chelation , " foralessa "

wrote:

>

> Hi there,

> I've written about thyroid/adrenal issues and depression/fatigue

here before.

> But what's really baffling to me is how much it changes. I'd like

to hear if anyone else

> experiences the shifts.

> One day I can be so fatigued/low blood

pressure/depression/cold/slow metabolism that I

> can barely get out of bed and a shower takes too much energy. I'm

out of breath. My hair

> falls out and I can't concentrate or read.

> Then, the very next day, I'm completely different - energy revived,

clear thinking,

> metabolism up and running and back in action. But I haven't changed

anything.

> I've had doctors suggest I'm bipolar but that doesn't make sense to

me because why would

> I get cold and have my hair fall out, etc. if it were bipolar

disorder. I don't think that fits.

> But I haven't heard much about the back and forth on this list.

> It seems like just when I prepare for one thing (setting up friends

to help with groceries,

> apply for disability, ask family to send movies when I'm down), the

change happens and I

> find myself up and running again.

> On the other hand, I can be up and running - feeling fine and I'll

do something really crazy

> (like get a job, lol) and then crash so hard I can't actually do

the job.

> My family has suggested I go on psychiatric meds which I've tried

many times in the past

> (almost always with horrendous results) and I'm reticent to try

again but I will if I have to.

> Does this scenario sound familiar to anyone else?

> Have you found any way to stabilize yourself?

> I'm already on HC and thyroid meds and thinking about trying ACE as

well (as per the

> recent posts).

> As always, suggestions are HUGELY appreciated.

> I'm so grateful to this list.

> :^)

> Alessa

>

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In frequent-dose-chelation Nicola wrote:

Hi Alessa

this all sounds very familiar, although my peaks and troughs have

eased a bit, 19 months after amalgam removal and after 8 months

chelation with DMSA. I put the erratic nature of recovery down to

the body's own detox - some days you're dumping mercury, some days

you're not - and this can effect energy and mood. After two years on

HC and thyroid hormone (Armour and T3) I have found it nigh

impossible to find the right dose for a body that is in a state of

flux, and whose requirements also vary from winter to summer. Female

hormone swings also come into play, and can knock me out for a day

(like yesterday).

Personally I would stay away from psychiatric drugs, and concentrate

on chelating and balancing hormones, as far as you can. I have also

learned to go with the flow - if my body is tired one day, then I

rest up with my cats and a DVD. On a higher energy day, I get done

what I can. It is difficult and irritating to have such energy

swings, but this is a long process and we might as well get used to

it ...

--------------Very well put, Nicola, and I would have to agree, the

fluctuations are hard to figure out and to handle. But like you, I have learned

to not push myself, and only do so much, and I think that is the way to go. I

think our bodies have alot of detoxing and healing to do, and this is all very

taxing on them, and rest is important. And avoiding as much stress as possible

and babying our adrenals as much as we can is important too. I think I'm

finally getting that.-----------Jackie

My two cents...

Nicola

-- In frequent-dose-chelation , " foralessa "

wrote:

>

> Hi there,

> I've written about thyroid/adrenal issues and depression/fatigue

here before.

> But what's really baffling to me is how much it changes. I'd like

to hear if anyone else

> experiences the shifts.

> One day I can be so fatigued/low blood

pressure/depression/cold/slow metabolism that I

> can barely get out of bed and a shower takes too much energy. I'm

out of breath. My hair

> falls out and I can't concentrate or read.

> Then, the very next day, I'm completely different - energy revived,

clear thinking,

> metabolism up and running and back in action. But I haven't changed

anything.

> I've had doctors suggest I'm bipolar but that doesn't make sense to

me because why would

> I get cold and have my hair fall out, etc. if it were bipolar

disorder. I don't think that fits.

> But I haven't heard much about the back and forth on this list.

> It seems like just when I prepare for one thing (setting up friends

to help with groceries,

> apply for disability, ask family to send movies when I'm down), the

change happens and I

> find myself up and running again.

> On the other hand, I can be up and running - feeling fine and I'll

do something really crazy

> (like get a job, lol) and then crash so hard I can't actually do

the job.

> My family has suggested I go on psychiatric meds which I've tried

many times in the past

> (almost always with horrendous results) and I'm reticent to try

again but I will if I have to.

> Does this scenario sound familiar to anyone else?

> Have you found any way to stabilize yourself?

> I'm already on HC and thyroid meds and thinking about trying ACE as

well (as per the

> recent posts).

> As always, suggestions are HUGELY appreciated.

> I'm so grateful to this list.

> :^)

> Alessa

>

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In frequent-dose-chelation Nicola wrote:

Hi Alessa

this all sounds very familiar, although my peaks and troughs have

eased a bit, 19 months after amalgam removal and after 8 months

chelation with DMSA. I put the erratic nature of recovery down to

the body's own detox - some days you're dumping mercury, some days

you're not - and this can effect energy and mood. After two years on

HC and thyroid hormone (Armour and T3) I have found it nigh

impossible to find the right dose for a body that is in a state of

flux, and whose requirements also vary from winter to summer. Female

hormone swings also come into play, and can knock me out for a day

(like yesterday).

Personally I would stay away from psychiatric drugs, and concentrate

on chelating and balancing hormones, as far as you can. I have also

learned to go with the flow - if my body is tired one day, then I

rest up with my cats and a DVD. On a higher energy day, I get done

what I can. It is difficult and irritating to have such energy

swings, but this is a long process and we might as well get used to

it ...

--------------Very well put, Nicola, and I would have to agree, the

fluctuations are hard to figure out and to handle. But like you, I have learned

to not push myself, and only do so much, and I think that is the way to go. I

think our bodies have alot of detoxing and healing to do, and this is all very

taxing on them, and rest is important. And avoiding as much stress as possible

and babying our adrenals as much as we can is important too. I think I'm

finally getting that.-----------Jackie

My two cents...

Nicola

-- In frequent-dose-chelation , " foralessa "

wrote:

>

> Hi there,

> I've written about thyroid/adrenal issues and depression/fatigue

here before.

> But what's really baffling to me is how much it changes. I'd like

to hear if anyone else

> experiences the shifts.

> One day I can be so fatigued/low blood

pressure/depression/cold/slow metabolism that I

> can barely get out of bed and a shower takes too much energy. I'm

out of breath. My hair

> falls out and I can't concentrate or read.

> Then, the very next day, I'm completely different - energy revived,

clear thinking,

> metabolism up and running and back in action. But I haven't changed

anything.

> I've had doctors suggest I'm bipolar but that doesn't make sense to

me because why would

> I get cold and have my hair fall out, etc. if it were bipolar

disorder. I don't think that fits.

> But I haven't heard much about the back and forth on this list.

> It seems like just when I prepare for one thing (setting up friends

to help with groceries,

> apply for disability, ask family to send movies when I'm down), the

change happens and I

> find myself up and running again.

> On the other hand, I can be up and running - feeling fine and I'll

do something really crazy

> (like get a job, lol) and then crash so hard I can't actually do

the job.

> My family has suggested I go on psychiatric meds which I've tried

many times in the past

> (almost always with horrendous results) and I'm reticent to try

again but I will if I have to.

> Does this scenario sound familiar to anyone else?

> Have you found any way to stabilize yourself?

> I'm already on HC and thyroid meds and thinking about trying ACE as

well (as per the

> recent posts).

> As always, suggestions are HUGELY appreciated.

> I'm so grateful to this list.

> :^)

> Alessa

>

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In frequent-dose-chelation Nicola wrote:

Hi Alessa

this all sounds very familiar, although my peaks and troughs have

eased a bit, 19 months after amalgam removal and after 8 months

chelation with DMSA. I put the erratic nature of recovery down to

the body's own detox - some days you're dumping mercury, some days

you're not - and this can effect energy and mood. After two years on

HC and thyroid hormone (Armour and T3) I have found it nigh

impossible to find the right dose for a body that is in a state of

flux, and whose requirements also vary from winter to summer. Female

hormone swings also come into play, and can knock me out for a day

(like yesterday).

Personally I would stay away from psychiatric drugs, and concentrate

on chelating and balancing hormones, as far as you can. I have also

learned to go with the flow - if my body is tired one day, then I

rest up with my cats and a DVD. On a higher energy day, I get done

what I can. It is difficult and irritating to have such energy

swings, but this is a long process and we might as well get used to

it ...

--------------Very well put, Nicola, and I would have to agree, the

fluctuations are hard to figure out and to handle. But like you, I have learned

to not push myself, and only do so much, and I think that is the way to go. I

think our bodies have alot of detoxing and healing to do, and this is all very

taxing on them, and rest is important. And avoiding as much stress as possible

and babying our adrenals as much as we can is important too. I think I'm

finally getting that.-----------Jackie

My two cents...

Nicola

-- In frequent-dose-chelation , " foralessa "

wrote:

>

> Hi there,

> I've written about thyroid/adrenal issues and depression/fatigue

here before.

> But what's really baffling to me is how much it changes. I'd like

to hear if anyone else

> experiences the shifts.

> One day I can be so fatigued/low blood

pressure/depression/cold/slow metabolism that I

> can barely get out of bed and a shower takes too much energy. I'm

out of breath. My hair

> falls out and I can't concentrate or read.

> Then, the very next day, I'm completely different - energy revived,

clear thinking,

> metabolism up and running and back in action. But I haven't changed

anything.

> I've had doctors suggest I'm bipolar but that doesn't make sense to

me because why would

> I get cold and have my hair fall out, etc. if it were bipolar

disorder. I don't think that fits.

> But I haven't heard much about the back and forth on this list.

> It seems like just when I prepare for one thing (setting up friends

to help with groceries,

> apply for disability, ask family to send movies when I'm down), the

change happens and I

> find myself up and running again.

> On the other hand, I can be up and running - feeling fine and I'll

do something really crazy

> (like get a job, lol) and then crash so hard I can't actually do

the job.

> My family has suggested I go on psychiatric meds which I've tried

many times in the past

> (almost always with horrendous results) and I'm reticent to try

again but I will if I have to.

> Does this scenario sound familiar to anyone else?

> Have you found any way to stabilize yourself?

> I'm already on HC and thyroid meds and thinking about trying ACE as

well (as per the

> recent posts).

> As always, suggestions are HUGELY appreciated.

> I'm so grateful to this list.

> :^)

> Alessa

>

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Alessa,

I can relate to your story as far as body symptoms. One day my

body hurts in one particular spot or all over then the next day , no

pain. Also my energy levels vary from days days. Have you notice if

the weather makes you feel different? I have headaches, sl

inflammation of the head the days when the weather changes, incoming

storm like some people do in their joints. Mine is scary thought due

to it being my head. Reason enough to chelate using ala and dmsa. Are

you eating diff things on diff days? You had amalgam in your mouth,

root canals and vaccines? If you aren't on supplements those that

Andy recommends , start rt away. Also how are your thyroid and

adrenals? Are you staying away from process foods that contain things

like msg, sulfites etc? Lots of luck,

Vivian

>

> Hi there,

> I've written about thyroid/adrenal issues and depression/fatigue

here before.

> But what's really baffling to me is how much it changes. I'd like to

hear if anyone else

> experiences the shifts.

> One day I can be so fatigued/low blood pressure/depression/cold/slow

metabolism that I

> can barely get out of bed and a shower takes too much energy. I'm

out of breath. My hair

> falls out and I can't concentrate or read.

> Then, the very next day, I'm completely different - energy revived,

clear thinking,

> metabolism up and running and back in action. But I haven't changed

anything.

> I've had doctors suggest I'm bipolar but that doesn't make sense to

me because why would

> I get cold and have my hair fall out, etc. if it were bipolar

disorder. I don't think that fits.

> But I haven't heard much about the back and forth on this list.

> It seems like just when I prepare for one thing (setting up friends

to help with groceries,

> apply for disability, ask family to send movies when I'm down), the

change happens and I

> find myself up and running again.

> On the other hand, I can be up and running - feeling fine and I'll

do something really crazy

> (like get a job, lol) and then crash so hard I can't actually do the

job.

> My family has suggested I go on psychiatric meds which I've tried

many times in the past

> (almost always with horrendous results) and I'm reticent to try

again but I will if I have to.

> Does this scenario sound familiar to anyone else?

> Have you found any way to stabilize yourself?

> I'm already on HC and thyroid meds and thinking about trying ACE as

well (as per the

> recent posts).

> As always, suggestions are HUGELY appreciated.

> I'm so grateful to this list.

> :^)

> Alessa

>

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>

> Hi there,

> I've written about thyroid/adrenal issues and depression/fatigue

here before.

> But what's really baffling to me is how much it changes. I'd like to

hear if anyone else

> experiences the shifts.

> One day I can be so fatigued/low blood pressure/depression/cold/slow

metabolism that I

> can barely get out of bed and a shower takes too much energy. I'm

out of breath. My hair

> falls out and I can't concentrate or read.

> Then, the very next day, I'm completely different - energy revived,

clear thinking,

> metabolism up and running and back in action. But I haven't changed

anything.

I can identify with this.

> I've had doctors suggest I'm bipolar but that doesn't make sense to

me because why would

> I get cold and have my hair fall out, etc. if it were bipolar

disorder. I don't think that fits.

It could fit with some type of bipolar. In a way, I think bipolar

is an extreme presentation of a type of adrenal problem. From what

you described, it doesn't sound like you are doing anything

inappropriate or troubling during the " up " periods. Sounds more like

you feel " normal " in the up periods and non-functional during the

down periods. If this is the case, then I would work on treating

your hormones vs using medications for now.

Another thought that comes to mind is a problem with sulfur foods.

You can't be sure about this until you exclude them for at least a

week and then challenge.

Have you read Andy's comments on depression in the files section?

See depression under the Andy index subject links. Maybe this will

give you some ideas to try.

> But I haven't heard much about the back and forth on this list.

> It seems like just when I prepare for one thing (setting up friends

to help with groceries,

> apply for disability, ask family to send movies when I'm down), the

change happens and I

> find myself up and running again.

> On the other hand, I can be up and running - feeling fine and I'll

do something really crazy

> (like get a job, lol) and then crash so hard I can't actually do the

job.

> My family has suggested I go on psychiatric meds which I've tried

many times in the past

> (almost always with horrendous results) and I'm reticent to try

again but I will if I have to.

If you had horrendous results with the meds you tried, then they were

the wrong ones or maybe a dosage problem. Also maybe you need the

hormones in a better place before trying meds? Not sure about that,

just an idea.

For me, menstrual cycle had a huge effect on how my body and mind

were functioning - I wonder if that is a factor for you? Balancing

sex hormones might make a difference.

> Does this scenario sound familiar to anyone else?

The difference with me was that I could be up and down multiple times

in one day. And my ups and downs were a bit different and the issues

this caused were a bit different. But I definitely identify with

the confusion and uncertainty it causes.

> Have you found any way to stabilize yourself?

I am much more stable on hormone support and various supplements.

> I'm already on HC and thyroid meds and thinking about trying ACE as

well (as per the

> recent posts).

DHEA and sex hormones might be an issue, too. If you haven't

addressed those, it could make a big difference.

--

> As always, suggestions are HUGELY appreciated.

> I'm so grateful to this list.

> :^)

> Alessa

>

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Hi Alessa,

Stress changes so much from day to day. Normally our body would adapt

and make extra cortisol. When we have adrenal fatigue that doesn't

happen and we crash with stress. Replacing cortisol helps to a

certain point, but doesn't give us extra for stress unless we add

extra. Most doctors will only let their patients add extra for the

obvious physical stress of illness and big psychological stress like

divorce and death.

Yes, I am just about as unstable, even with all of the extra

medications and supplements.

I haven't used adrenal cortex consistently. I do think it would help.

Sustained release T3 has helped me plus extra salt.

I have been trying to resolve some of the things that give me stress.

Pain, for example, gives me huge stress - because of the pain itself

and all the things I can't get done. The addition of adequate pain

medication has helped enormously. That is just one example. I'm

going to a meditation workshop soon that is given by someone who

specializes in treating people with chronic pain and chronic illness.

I have always found that meditation and music and laughter help me a lot.

J

>

> Hi there,

> I've written about thyroid/adrenal issues and depression/fatigue

here before.

> But what's really baffling to me is how much it changes. I'd like to

hear if anyone else

> experiences the shifts.

> One day I can be so fatigued/low blood pressure/depression/cold/slow

metabolism that I

> can barely get out of bed and a shower takes too much energy. I'm

out of breath. My hair

> falls out and I can't concentrate or read.

> Then, the very next day, I'm completely different - energy revived,

clear thinking,

> metabolism up and running and back in action. But I haven't changed

anything.

> I've had doctors suggest I'm bipolar but that doesn't make sense to

me because why would

> I get cold and have my hair fall out, etc. if it were bipolar

disorder. I don't think that fits.

> But I haven't heard much about the back and forth on this list.

> It seems like just when I prepare for one thing (setting up friends

to help with groceries,

> apply for disability, ask family to send movies when I'm down), the

change happens and I

> find myself up and running again.

> On the other hand, I can be up and running - feeling fine and I'll

do something really crazy

> (like get a job, lol) and then crash so hard I can't actually do the

job.

> My family has suggested I go on psychiatric meds which I've tried

many times in the past

> (almost always with horrendous results) and I'm reticent to try

again but I will if I have to.

> Does this scenario sound familiar to anyone else?

> Have you found any way to stabilize yourself?

> I'm already on HC and thyroid meds and thinking about trying ACE as

well (as per the

> recent posts).

> As always, suggestions are HUGELY appreciated.

> I'm so grateful to this list.

> :^)

> Alessa

>

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Hi Alessa,

Stress changes so much from day to day. Normally our body would adapt

and make extra cortisol. When we have adrenal fatigue that doesn't

happen and we crash with stress. Replacing cortisol helps to a

certain point, but doesn't give us extra for stress unless we add

extra. Most doctors will only let their patients add extra for the

obvious physical stress of illness and big psychological stress like

divorce and death.

Yes, I am just about as unstable, even with all of the extra

medications and supplements.

I haven't used adrenal cortex consistently. I do think it would help.

Sustained release T3 has helped me plus extra salt.

I have been trying to resolve some of the things that give me stress.

Pain, for example, gives me huge stress - because of the pain itself

and all the things I can't get done. The addition of adequate pain

medication has helped enormously. That is just one example. I'm

going to a meditation workshop soon that is given by someone who

specializes in treating people with chronic pain and chronic illness.

I have always found that meditation and music and laughter help me a lot.

J

>

> Hi there,

> I've written about thyroid/adrenal issues and depression/fatigue

here before.

> But what's really baffling to me is how much it changes. I'd like to

hear if anyone else

> experiences the shifts.

> One day I can be so fatigued/low blood pressure/depression/cold/slow

metabolism that I

> can barely get out of bed and a shower takes too much energy. I'm

out of breath. My hair

> falls out and I can't concentrate or read.

> Then, the very next day, I'm completely different - energy revived,

clear thinking,

> metabolism up and running and back in action. But I haven't changed

anything.

> I've had doctors suggest I'm bipolar but that doesn't make sense to

me because why would

> I get cold and have my hair fall out, etc. if it were bipolar

disorder. I don't think that fits.

> But I haven't heard much about the back and forth on this list.

> It seems like just when I prepare for one thing (setting up friends

to help with groceries,

> apply for disability, ask family to send movies when I'm down), the

change happens and I

> find myself up and running again.

> On the other hand, I can be up and running - feeling fine and I'll

do something really crazy

> (like get a job, lol) and then crash so hard I can't actually do the

job.

> My family has suggested I go on psychiatric meds which I've tried

many times in the past

> (almost always with horrendous results) and I'm reticent to try

again but I will if I have to.

> Does this scenario sound familiar to anyone else?

> Have you found any way to stabilize yourself?

> I'm already on HC and thyroid meds and thinking about trying ACE as

well (as per the

> recent posts).

> As always, suggestions are HUGELY appreciated.

> I'm so grateful to this list.

> :^)

> Alessa

>

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Hello

> Hi there,

> I've written about thyroid/adrenal issues and depression/fatigue here before.

But what's really baffling to me is how much it changes. I'd like to hear if

anyone else experiences the shifts.

> One day I can be so fatigued/low blood pressure/depression/cold/slow

metabolism that I can barely get out of bed and a shower takes too much energy.

I'm out of breath. My hair falls out and I can't concentrate or read.

* i get fatigue due to fibromyalgia, circulation is depending on how

bad my raynaurds is. i have been breathless when i had chronic fatigue

syndrome. Reading and concentration require me to take omega oils,

magnesium, calcium, milk thistle and 5htp each day so im ok. i find

30mins of reading wears me out on a good day but thats dyslexia for

you.

> Then, the very next day, I'm completely different - energy revived, clear

thinking, metabolism up and running and back in action. But I haven't changed

anything.

* Yes that happens to me as well. Why dont you try going on

butyoudontlooksick.com and putting your symptoms on there? They might

be able to advise better than me but it sound like

fibromylagia/chronic fatigue syndrome to me. Both conditions can occur

with your adrenal and thyroid issues.

> I've had doctors suggest I'm bipolar but that doesn't make sense to me because

why would I get cold and have my hair fall out, etc. if it were bipolar

disorder. I don't think that fits.

* im inclined to agree with you.

> But I haven't heard much about the back and forth on this list.

> It seems like just when I prepare for one thing (setting up friends to help

with groceries, apply for disability, ask family to send movies when I'm down),

the change happens and I find myself up and running again. On the other hand, I

can be up and running - feeling fine and I'll do something really crazy (like

get a job, lol) and then crash so hard I can't actually do the job.

* Sounds like you are doing too much so your bodys telling you " im

slowing down as you wont " sort of thing.

> My family has suggested I go on psychiatric meds which I've tried many times

in the past (almost always with horrendous results) and I'm reticent to try

again but I will if I have to.

* Some antidepressants can help with pain and stiffness such as

amyltriptyline (sp?).

> Does this scenario sound familiar to anyone else?

> Have you found any way to stabilize yourself?

* Sounds like fibro to me. i just take each day one at a time and have

an understanding college (high school) which is ok if i dont feel well

enough to attend class (im part time).

> I'm already on HC and thyroid meds and thinking about trying ACE as well (as

per the recent posts).

> As always, suggestions are HUGELY appreciated.

> I'm so grateful to this list.

* Me too and ive been here less than a week!

is

> :^)

> Alessa

>

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Alessa,

I understand your feelings completely. I have taken a break from

chelation until I can get my adrenals and thyroid functioning more

normally. Because I must hold down a full time job, my fatigue and

emotional swings make it particularly difficult to function on the

days when I don't feel well. The two supplements that have helped me

most so far are HC and Omega 6.

Michele

>

> Hi there,

> I've written about thyroid/adrenal issues and depression/fatigue

here before.

> But what's really baffling to me is how much it changes. I'd like

to hear if anyone else

> experiences the shifts.

> One day I can be so fatigued/low blood

pressure/depression/cold/slow metabolism that I

> can barely get out of bed and a shower takes too much energy. I'm

out of breath. My hair

> falls out and I can't concentrate or read.

> Then, the very next day, I'm completely different - energy revived,

clear thinking,

> metabolism up and running and back in action. But I haven't changed

anything.

> I've had doctors suggest I'm bipolar but that doesn't make sense to

me because why would

> I get cold and have my hair fall out, etc. if it were bipolar

disorder. I don't think that fits.

> But I haven't heard much about the back and forth on this list.

> It seems like just when I prepare for one thing (setting up friends

to help with groceries,

> apply for disability, ask family to send movies when I'm down), the

change happens and I

> find myself up and running again.

> On the other hand, I can be up and running - feeling fine and I'll

do something really crazy

> (like get a job, lol) and then crash so hard I can't actually do

the job.

> My family has suggested I go on psychiatric meds which I've tried

many times in the past

> (almost always with horrendous results) and I'm reticent to try

again but I will if I have to.

> Does this scenario sound familiar to anyone else?

> Have you found any way to stabilize yourself?

> I'm already on HC and thyroid meds and thinking about trying ACE as

well (as per the

> recent posts).

> As always, suggestions are HUGELY appreciated.

> I'm so grateful to this list.

> :^)

> Alessa

>

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Thanks to everyone for their responses. Sorry it's taken me so long to

follow up.

To answer some of the questions:

I'm already on all the suppliments I can tolerate. I definitely can't

tolerate iron though I'm always very low ferritin. I've also had

trouble tolerating various hormones. Even small amounts of testosterone

make me super angry even though my testerone is low. When I tried to go

on progesterone, I got an ovarian cyst and wound up in emergency, and

DHEA and pregnenalone made me very dopey and tired. I'm recently trying

DHEA cream at 1/2 dose and have been able to tolerate it so far. Could

be because my liver is in better shape now.

I'm also trying ACE and upped my intake of milk thistle.

I also just finished a long round (7 days) of DMSA 25mg.

So far so good. After a good night sleep (which I hardly ever get), I

woke up feeling energetic and downright hopeful.

I have a job interview tomorrow and will have to be careful about the

stress level. If I have to leave the job - well, so be it.

My plan is to up my Cortef (I'm on 10mg now) and ACE if I feel myself

slipping and see if that works.

And I know I can get warm and fuzzy at the end of my emails but I do

have to say thanks again.

This group has so many intelligent, knowledgeable, giving and kind

people on it.

You have saved my life.

:^)

Alessa

PS Did anyone see on PBS yesterday?

http://www.brendawatson.com/

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