Re: --Re: STARTING ALA-comments and questions

[Guest guest]

In frequent-dose-chelation topbrokersf wrote:

I too think I have gone through bad reaction due to likely too high

dose of ala (25mgs every 3 hrs with 15 mgs of dmps evry 3 hours)) and

still having too high body/blood stores of mercury

-----------How much DMPS were you taking every 6 hours before this? Did you

split it in half? Just curious. And yes, 25mg of ALA was probably way too much

for you to start out with. There seems to be so much variation in this, it's

hard to know where to start. But your symptoms below are certainly a sign that

the dose was too high. If and when you do try ALA again, I would suggest a much

lower dose, 12.5mg or even less, maybe 6.------------Jackie

i am having very bad head symptoms (anxiety, depression, head fog

fatigue burning in hands, feet, heart, head)..just want to lay in bed

and cry/pray..was actually pretty good mid way through these rounds

(have done 2)

-------------Sorry you're going through this. I would take *lots* of Vit C,

if I were you, and selenium, if you're not already taking it.-------------Jackie

I spent the last two days reading through sections in AI as it is so

valuable

I know in my case and probably many others our bodies are toxic...

probably more toxic now (post amalagms) as stores of mercury get

released after removal. I know that now (post amalgam removal) I get

mercury symptoms after massage (burning, aches, fatigue), so i guess

it will just have to be more gentle dpms/dmsa

------------Yes, you still probably have too much body stores yet, hence the

bad reaction to ALA. I still can't tolerate ALA.----------Jackie

pg 204:

" Problem. lipoic acid isn't a one way street. It just makes it easier

for mercury to go back and forth between the blood and the brain. If

you have a lot in the brain, then taking LA will help...However if

you have more in the blood stream than in the brain and you take LA,

it will move it into the brain "

pg 202

" NB: since lipoic acid allows mercury to move through nerve cell

membranes, using it when there is a high blood level of mercury...

can lead to redistribution of large amounts of mercury into the

nervous system with consequent exacerbation of symptoms "

-----------The above statements is why you should never take any ALA with

amalgams still in the mouth, and why you're supposed to wait at least three

months after amalgam removal before using it. And for some of us, it needs to

be longer than that, and some, much longer.---------Jackie

so i guess its no ala for a while...somewhere in here (AI) I also

found some of the symptoms of what i remember to be bad effects of

I guess wrong dosages of dmsa and dmps

I am trying vitamin c and more mag (as suggests) as in my case

the mercury seems to be not getting out through my bowels as i get

constipated..so hopefuly this will help

-----------Yes you need to get things moving, and enough C and mag might help.

I hope you start feeling better soon!------------Jackie

any thoughts

Good luck

[Guest guest]

In frequent-dose-chelation topbrokersf wrote:

I too think I have gone through bad reaction due to likely too high

dose of ala (25mgs every 3 hrs with 15 mgs of dmps evry 3 hours)) and

still having too high body/blood stores of mercury

-----------How much DMPS were you taking every 6 hours before this? Did you

split it in half? Just curious. And yes, 25mg of ALA was probably way too much

for you to start out with. There seems to be so much variation in this, it's

hard to know where to start. But your symptoms below are certainly a sign that

the dose was too high. If and when you do try ALA again, I would suggest a much

lower dose, 12.5mg or even less, maybe 6.------------Jackie

i am having very bad head symptoms (anxiety, depression, head fog

fatigue burning in hands, feet, heart, head)..just want to lay in bed

and cry/pray..was actually pretty good mid way through these rounds

(have done 2)

-------------Sorry you're going through this. I would take *lots* of Vit C,

if I were you, and selenium, if you're not already taking it.-------------Jackie

I spent the last two days reading through sections in AI as it is so

valuable

I know in my case and probably many others our bodies are toxic...

probably more toxic now (post amalagms) as stores of mercury get

released after removal. I know that now (post amalgam removal) I get

mercury symptoms after massage (burning, aches, fatigue), so i guess

it will just have to be more gentle dpms/dmsa

------------Yes, you still probably have too much body stores yet, hence the

bad reaction to ALA. I still can't tolerate ALA.----------Jackie

pg 204:

" Problem. lipoic acid isn't a one way street. It just makes it easier

for mercury to go back and forth between the blood and the brain. If

you have a lot in the brain, then taking LA will help...However if

you have more in the blood stream than in the brain and you take LA,

it will move it into the brain "

pg 202

" NB: since lipoic acid allows mercury to move through nerve cell

membranes, using it when there is a high blood level of mercury...

can lead to redistribution of large amounts of mercury into the

nervous system with consequent exacerbation of symptoms "

-----------The above statements is why you should never take any ALA with

amalgams still in the mouth, and why you're supposed to wait at least three

months after amalgam removal before using it. And for some of us, it needs to

be longer than that, and some, much longer.---------Jackie

so i guess its no ala for a while...somewhere in here (AI) I also

found some of the symptoms of what i remember to be bad effects of

I guess wrong dosages of dmsa and dmps

I am trying vitamin c and more mag (as suggests) as in my case

the mercury seems to be not getting out through my bowels as i get

constipated..so hopefuly this will help

-----------Yes you need to get things moving, and enough C and mag might help.

I hope you start feeling better soon!------------Jackie

any thoughts

Good luck

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. I " ll add that if you can't stand much ALA, then it probably

means that you are high in sulfur and should try a low sulfur diet.

(Start out restricting dairy, which is really high, eggs, coffee,

onions, garlic, beans/peas, cabbage, broccali et al, but those are the

big ones in descending order.)

Dave.

In frequent-dose-chelation

topbrokersf wrote:

I too think I have gone through bad reaction due to likely too high

dose of ala (25mgs every 3 hrs with 15 mgs of dmps evry 3 hours)) and

still having too high body/blood stores of mercury

-----------How much DMPS were you taking every 6 hours before this? Did

you split it in half? Just curious. And yes, 25mg of ALA was probably

way too much for you to start out with. There seems to be so much

variation in this, it's hard to know where to start. But your symptoms

below are certainly a sign that the dose was too high. If and when you

do try ALA again, I would suggest a much lower dose, 12.5mg or even

less, maybe 6.----------

--Jackie

[Guest guest]

> Thank you Jackie and Dave

>

> actually i cut out sulfur about 5 months ago, it was the first thing

> i figured out from reading AI that was bothering me...

Hi ,

Do you know if sulfur intolerance is a lifetime thing, or only a problem

while you are mercury toxic?

I mean do you have avoid sulfur foods forever even after you have finsihed

chelating?

>I also have eliminated dairy as

> food allergy test showed dairy as being quite bad

What food allergy test does she used?

Thanks,

DeanSA

[Guest guest]

Sulfur is a problem because it causes mercury redistribution. So, when

the mercury goes down, the side effects caused by its redistribution

also go down. After 2 1/2 years of chelation, I can now consume some

sulfur foods. If I keep it up for a week or so though, then I'm in

trouble....

(I can also eat wheat once in a while, as long as I wait a week or so

between times. Corn allergy went completely away. Oranges, particularly

satsumas, are still a problem (salicilates). Haven't tested out my

problems with things like grapes (phenoics) and strawberries (??).)

Dave.

> Hi , Do you know if sulfur intolerance is a lifetime thing, or

> only a problem while you are mercury toxic? I mean do you have avoid

> sulfur foods forever even after you have finsihed chelating?