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I finished my round yesterday, and as usual this great phenomenon that

happens to me the first day off is that I feel like someone snuck in

my room at night and drained my of my essential life forces....so I

feel drop over drained, and have a real good headache. This happens

every time..I know it's redistribution..

Which is why I am always sad to have to stop a round....

I have been popping Vitamin C since I woke up..up to 3,000mg already...

Any ideas on how to get rid of these headaches and minimize the fatigue...

I can ride it out, which is what I have been doing with chelation, but

I am wondering if maybe someone has found a way to handle these

effects better?

It could entirely be due to my low adrenals and my low thyroid yes I

know. Thank you for any suggestions....

The fog is creeping back in....

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From: Jada

I finished my round yesterday, and as usual this great phenomenon that

happens to me the first day off is that I feel like someone snuck in

my room at night and drained my of my essential life forces....so I

feel drop over drained, and have a real good headache.

===>Our little first grader has been complaining of an occasional headache ON

rounds, points to her right frontal lobe area. We've been giving extra magnesium

when she complains and/or oranje juice, high in both mag and C, seems to help,

you might try that.

She doesn't quite say it's a headache, says her head feels funny so think this

might be pulling sensations, but might work for a headache also. Let us know,

Jan, so we can maybe tell what is happening with the little ones.

This happens

every time..I know it's redistribution..

Which is why I am always sad to have to stop a round....

I have been popping Vitamin C since I woke up..up to 3,000mg already...

Any ideas on how to get rid of these headaches and minimize the fatigue...

I can ride it out, which is what I have been doing with chelation, but

I am wondering if maybe someone has found a way to handle these

effects better?

It could entirely be due to my low adrenals and my low thyroid yes I

know. Thank you for any suggestions....

The fog is creeping back in....

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,

Have you ever tried coenzyme q10? I get occasional headaches on a

round and coenzyme q10 helps with that. I feel it as a specific kind

of headache, not caused by muscle tension - it feels like a stuffy

dullness. Your mention of frontal lobe area reminded me of this post:

http://onibasu.com/archives/am/168170.html

Jay

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Jada

>

>

>

> I finished my round yesterday, and as usual this great phenomenon that

> happens to me the first day off is that I feel like someone snuck in

> my room at night and drained my of my essential life forces....so I

> feel drop over drained, and have a real good headache.

>

> ===>Our little first grader has been complaining of an occasional

headache ON rounds, points to her right frontal lobe area. We've been

giving extra magnesium when she complains and/or oranje juice, high in

both mag and C, seems to help, you might try that.

>

> She doesn't quite say it's a headache, says her head feels funny

so think this might be pulling sensations, but might work for a

headache also. Let us know, Jan, so we can maybe tell what is

happening with the little ones.

>

>

>

>

>

> This happens

> every time..I know it's redistribution..

> Which is why I am always sad to have to stop a round....

>

> I have been popping Vitamin C since I woke up..up to 3,000mg

already...

>

> Any ideas on how to get rid of these headaches and minimize the

fatigue...

> I can ride it out, which is what I have been doing with chelation, but

> I am wondering if maybe someone has found a way to handle these

> effects better?

>

> It could entirely be due to my low adrenals and my low thyroid yes I

> know. Thank you for any suggestions....

>

> The fog is creeping back in....

>

>

>

>

>

>

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That sounds like it. It's a frontal headache, and you feel a bit

foggy, out of it sort of..I am a bit clumsy and disoriented.

I just made one of my " don't know what to do drinks " which is Kirkman

Buffered C and Kirkman Mag powder. Also took some more milk thistle.

Still feeling odd but going to lay down for a bit.

I did have headaches on rounds when I first tried taking ALA. I had to

stop using it and do more dmsa rounds. After a while I was able to

tolerate 6mg of ala for two days of the rounds. Then finally I

graduated to 12.5mg the whole round. I am thinking next round I will

stop the ALA on the last day and do the last few rounds of just dmsa.

Maybe that will help me reduce this post round icky. I did find ala

was causing the bad headaches in the beginning on rounds....I don't

know how much she's on, but maybe going a bit lower or doing some dmsa

only rounds. I also have to take tons of C...so your right with that.

My research of combing Andy's book and this board let me to stopping

the ala and doing more dmsa for a while. From what I read, if your

body levels of Hg are too high, the ala will give you headaches while

your on it. Lower the body levels with dmsa only rounds then proceed

to ala..so that is what I ended up doing...hope that helps her some!

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Jada

>

>

>

> I finished my round yesterday, and as usual this great phenomenon that

> happens to me the first day off is that I feel like someone snuck in

> my room at night and drained my of my essential life forces....so I

> feel drop over drained, and have a real good headache.

>

> ===>Our little first grader has been complaining of an occasional

headache ON rounds, points to her right frontal lobe area. We've been

giving extra magnesium when she complains and/or oranje juice, high in

both mag and C, seems to help, you might try that.

>

> She doesn't quite say it's a headache, says her head feels funny

so think this might be pulling sensations, but might work for a

headache also. Let us know, Jan, so we can maybe tell what is

happening with the little ones.

>

>

>

>

>

> This happens

> every time..I know it's redistribution..

> Which is why I am always sad to have to stop a round....

>

> I have been popping Vitamin C since I woke up..up to 3,000mg

already...

>

> Any ideas on how to get rid of these headaches and minimize the

fatigue...

> I can ride it out, which is what I have been doing with chelation, but

> I am wondering if maybe someone has found a way to handle these

> effects better?

>

> It could entirely be due to my low adrenals and my low thyroid yes I

> know. Thank you for any suggestions....

>

> The fog is creeping back in....

>

>

>

>

>

>

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I have not finished getting my mercury out yet, so have not started chelating,

but when I've had those nasty detox type headaches, sometimes a little

molybdenum has made them go away. I dont' know if you have any or have tried

that, but it might be worth a try.

Marcia

>

> I finished my round yesterday, and as usual this great phenomenon that

> happens to me the first day off is that I feel like someone snuck in

> my room at night and drained my of my essential life forces....so I

> feel drop over drained, and have a real good headache.

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From: Jada ?

===>I'm doubting, here, it could be too high body burden of mercury after 115+

rounds. In her case she never complained of headaches until this summer. In my

thinking, which may be delusional, it's pulling the last of the mercury from her

brain as she is NT, very indisguishable from her peers, language off the charts,

social is stellar. We have reduced the Ala by 1/2 and also the Dmsa to a low,

low 5 mgs.

She only complained once this last round and some extra buffered C with

cal/mag/pot did the trick.

I did have headaches on rounds when I first tried taking ALA. I had to

stop using it and do more dmsa rounds. After a while I was able to

tolerate 6mg of ala for two days of the rounds. Then finally I

graduated to 12.5mg the whole round. I am thinking next round I will

stop the ALA on the last day and do the last few rounds of just dmsa.

Maybe that will help me reduce this post round icky. I did find ala

was causing the bad headaches in the beginning on rounds....I don't

know how much she's on, but maybe going a bit lower or doing some dmsa

only rounds. I also have to take tons of C...so your right with that.

My research of combing Andy's book and this board let me to stopping

the ala and doing more dmsa for a while. From what I read, if your

body levels of Hg are too high, the ala will give you headaches while

your on it. Lower the body levels with dmsa only rounds then proceed

to ala..so that is what I ended up doing...hope that helps her some!

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Jada

>

>

>

> I finished my round yesterday, and as usual this great phenomenon that

> happens to me the first day off is that I feel like someone snuck in

> my room at night and drained my of my essential life forces....so I

> feel drop over drained, and have a real good headache.

>

> ===>Our little first grader has been complaining of an occasional

headache ON rounds, points to her right frontal lobe area. We've been

giving extra magnesium when she complains and/or oranje juice, high in

both mag and C, seems to help, you might try that.

>

> She doesn't quite say it's a headache, says her head feels funny

so think this might be pulling sensations, but might work for a

headache also. Let us know, Jan, so we can maybe tell what is

happening with the little ones.

>

>

>

>

>

> This happens

> every time..I know it's redistribution..

> Which is why I am always sad to have to stop a round....

>

> I have been popping Vitamin C since I woke up..up to 3,000mg

already...

>

> Any ideas on how to get rid of these headaches and minimize the

fatigue...

> I can ride it out, which is what I have been doing with chelation, but

> I am wondering if maybe someone has found a way to handle these

> effects better?

>

> It could entirely be due to my low adrenals and my low thyroid yes I

> know. Thank you for any suggestions....

>

> The fog is creeping back in....

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Thanks, Jay,

This is something to consider. I appreciate your attention.

Re: post round headache?

,

Have you ever tried coenzyme q10? I get occasional headaches on a

round and coenzyme q10 helps with that. I feel it as a specific kind

of headache, not caused by muscle tension - it feels like a stuffy

dullness. Your mention of frontal lobe area reminded me of this post:

http://onibasu.com/archives/am/168170.html

Jay

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Jada

>

>

>

> I finished my round yesterday, and as usual this great phenomenon that

> happens to me the first day off is that I feel like someone snuck in

> my room at night and drained my of my essential life forces....so I

> feel drop over drained, and have a real good headache.

>

> ===>Our little first grader has been complaining of an occasional

headache ON rounds, points to her right frontal lobe area. We've been

giving extra magnesium when she complains and/or oranje juice, high in

both mag and C, seems to help, you might try that.

>

> She doesn't quite say it's a headache, says her head feels funny

so think this might be pulling sensations, but might work for a

headache also. Let us know, Jan, so we can maybe tell what is

happening with the little ones.

>

>

>

>

>

> This happens

> every time..I know it's redistribution..

> Which is why I am always sad to have to stop a round....

>

> I have been popping Vitamin C since I woke up..up to 3,000mg

already...

>

> Any ideas on how to get rid of these headaches and minimize the

fatigue...

> I can ride it out, which is what I have been doing with chelation, but

> I am wondering if maybe someone has found a way to handle these

> effects better?

>

> It could entirely be due to my low adrenals and my low thyroid yes I

> know. Thank you for any suggestions....

>

> The fog is creeping back in....

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Thanks, Jay,

This is something to consider. I appreciate your attention.

Re: post round headache?

,

Have you ever tried coenzyme q10? I get occasional headaches on a

round and coenzyme q10 helps with that. I feel it as a specific kind

of headache, not caused by muscle tension - it feels like a stuffy

dullness. Your mention of frontal lobe area reminded me of this post:

http://onibasu.com/archives/am/168170.html

Jay

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Jada

>

>

>

> I finished my round yesterday, and as usual this great phenomenon that

> happens to me the first day off is that I feel like someone snuck in

> my room at night and drained my of my essential life forces....so I

> feel drop over drained, and have a real good headache.

>

> ===>Our little first grader has been complaining of an occasional

headache ON rounds, points to her right frontal lobe area. We've been

giving extra magnesium when she complains and/or oranje juice, high in

both mag and C, seems to help, you might try that.

>

> She doesn't quite say it's a headache, says her head feels funny

so think this might be pulling sensations, but might work for a

headache also. Let us know, Jan, so we can maybe tell what is

happening with the little ones.

>

>

>

>

>

> This happens

> every time..I know it's redistribution..

> Which is why I am always sad to have to stop a round....

>

> I have been popping Vitamin C since I woke up..up to 3,000mg

already...

>

> Any ideas on how to get rid of these headaches and minimize the

fatigue...

> I can ride it out, which is what I have been doing with chelation, but

> I am wondering if maybe someone has found a way to handle these

> effects better?

>

> It could entirely be due to my low adrenals and my low thyroid yes I

> know. Thank you for any suggestions....

>

> The fog is creeping back in....

>

>

>

>

>

>

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>I have not finished getting my mercury out yet, so have not started

>chelating, but when I've had those nasty detox type headaches, sometimes a

>little molybdenum has made them go away. I dont' know if you have any or

>have tried that, but it might be worth a try.

>

> Marcia

Could your headaches be from Copper movement/redistribution and molybdenum

lowers the copper?

I know that copper is able to cause migraines with ease.

Thanks,

DeanSA

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> ===>I'm doubting, here, it could be too high body burden of mercury after

> 115+ rounds. In her case she never complained of headaches until this

> summer. In my thinking, which may be delusional, it's pulling the last of

> the mercury from her brain as she is NT, very indisguishable from her

> peers, language off the charts, social is stellar. We have reduced the Ala

> by 1/2 and also the Dmsa to a low, low 5 mgs.

>

> She only complained once this last round and some extra buffered C with

> cal/mag/pot did the trick.

>

>

Hi ,

Did you add buffered vit c to the capsules? If so how did you get it/make

it?

We are filling capsules with Ascorbic acid when making capsules and would

like to consider buffered Vit C.

What are its chemical components?

Thanks,

DeanSA

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From: DeanNetwork

Hi ,

Did you add buffered vit c to the capsules? If so how did you get it/make

it?

Hi Dean,

No we didn't add the buffered C to the capsules. I made them up with buffered

C, then wondered about it so I asked Andy and he said that it was probably okay

but he would use them up quickly.

I avoided the Ascorbic acid we usually use as she had just had 5th's disease

and her stomach was a little touchy.

So I don't think that adding buffered C to the chelator capsules is a good

idea.

We are filling capsules with Ascorbic acid when making capsules and would

like to consider buffered Vit C.

What are its chemical components?

Thanks,

DeanSA

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----- Original Message -----

From: DeanNetwork

Hi ,

Did you add buffered vit c to the capsules? If so how did you get it/make

it?

Hi Dean,

No we didn't add the buffered C to the capsules. I made them up with buffered

C, then wondered about it so I asked Andy and he said that it was probably okay

but he would use them up quickly.

I avoided the Ascorbic acid we usually use as she had just had 5th's disease

and her stomach was a little touchy.

So I don't think that adding buffered C to the chelator capsules is a good

idea.

We are filling capsules with Ascorbic acid when making capsules and would

like to consider buffered Vit C.

What are its chemical components?

Thanks,

DeanSA

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115 rounds is a differnt story...

I did not realize you that was the case when I posted my experience.

C often does get rid of my hg headaches here when on or off a round.

We do use Kirkman Buffered C in the caps of chelators as a filler,

sometimes we use Kirkman Mag, or Milk thistle and have not had a

problem with it. Others may be different.

> >

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: Jada

> >

> >

> >

> > I finished my round yesterday, and as usual this great

phenomenon that

> > happens to me the first day off is that I feel like someone snuck in

> > my room at night and drained my of my essential life forces....so I

> > feel drop over drained, and have a real good headache.

> >

> > ===>Our little first grader has been complaining of an occasional

> headache ON rounds, points to her right frontal lobe area. We've been

> giving extra magnesium when she complains and/or oranje juice, high in

> both mag and C, seems to help, you might try that.

> >

> > She doesn't quite say it's a headache, says her head feels funny

> so think this might be pulling sensations, but might work for a

> headache also. Let us know, Jan, so we can maybe tell what is

> happening with the little ones.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > This happens

> > every time..I know it's redistribution..

> > Which is why I am always sad to have to stop a round....

> >

> > I have been popping Vitamin C since I woke up..up to 3,000mg

> already...

> >

> > Any ideas on how to get rid of these headaches and minimize the

> fatigue...

> > I can ride it out, which is what I have been doing with

chelation, but

> > I am wondering if maybe someone has found a way to handle these

> > effects better?

> >

> > It could entirely be due to my low adrenals and my low thyroid yes I

> > know. Thank you for any suggestions....

> >

> > The fog is creeping back in....

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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115 rounds is a differnt story...

I did not realize you that was the case when I posted my experience.

C often does get rid of my hg headaches here when on or off a round.

We do use Kirkman Buffered C in the caps of chelators as a filler,

sometimes we use Kirkman Mag, or Milk thistle and have not had a

problem with it. Others may be different.

> >

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: Jada

> >

> >

> >

> > I finished my round yesterday, and as usual this great

phenomenon that

> > happens to me the first day off is that I feel like someone snuck in

> > my room at night and drained my of my essential life forces....so I

> > feel drop over drained, and have a real good headache.

> >

> > ===>Our little first grader has been complaining of an occasional

> headache ON rounds, points to her right frontal lobe area. We've been

> giving extra magnesium when she complains and/or oranje juice, high in

> both mag and C, seems to help, you might try that.

> >

> > She doesn't quite say it's a headache, says her head feels funny

> so think this might be pulling sensations, but might work for a

> headache also. Let us know, Jan, so we can maybe tell what is

> happening with the little ones.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > This happens

> > every time..I know it's redistribution..

> > Which is why I am always sad to have to stop a round....

> >

> > I have been popping Vitamin C since I woke up..up to 3,000mg

> already...

> >

> > Any ideas on how to get rid of these headaches and minimize the

> fatigue...

> > I can ride it out, which is what I have been doing with

chelation, but

> > I am wondering if maybe someone has found a way to handle these

> > effects better?

> >

> > It could entirely be due to my low adrenals and my low thyroid yes I

> > know. Thank you for any suggestions....

> >

> > The fog is creeping back in....

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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