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sunny can you clarify

A) ALA stores CU ???

do you mean ala causes your body to store up CU whatever this is?

B) what is CU

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michael

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> ALA stores Cu, and Cu causes racing mind along with other symptoms.

> I'll say it is ALA causing insomnia. Vit C and Zinc depletes Cu, so

> you may want to add this to your supplement list. Last but not

least,

> Magnesium really helps with sleep issues.

>

> Sunny

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sunny can you clarify

A) ALA stores CU ???

do you mean ala causes your body to store up CU whatever this is?

B) what is CU

thanks

michael

>

> ALA stores Cu, and Cu causes racing mind along with other symptoms.

> I'll say it is ALA causing insomnia. Vit C and Zinc depletes Cu, so

> you may want to add this to your supplement list. Last but not

least,

> Magnesium really helps with sleep issues.

>

> Sunny

>

>

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sunny can you clarify

A) ALA stores CU ???

do you mean ala causes your body to store up CU whatever this is?

B) what is CU

thanks

michael

>

> ALA stores Cu, and Cu causes racing mind along with other symptoms.

> I'll say it is ALA causing insomnia. Vit C and Zinc depletes Cu, so

> you may want to add this to your supplement list. Last but not

least,

> Magnesium really helps with sleep issues.

>

> Sunny

>

>

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If one were following Andy's protocol you would be on Zinc and

molybdenum and this would maintain a balance with copper levels.

....where the problem lies is if you are copper toxic already, you

should reduce it with dmsa before using ala so that it does not get

higher than it already is or should be using dmsa with the lipoic acid.

This is not usually an issue for someone who has normal copper

levels...which you would see in your hair test. If you are chelating

with just ala you'd want to be on zinc and moly to keep copper in

check, which you should be on anyway. Andy's book says that you do not

want to chelate more than half the time with ala or you can raise body

levels of copper and zinc which will cause other mineral to go out of

balance. (pg 90 Amalgam Illness)

> >

> > ALA stores Cu, and Cu causes racing mind along with other symptoms.

> > I'll say it is ALA causing insomnia. Vit C and Zinc depletes Cu, so

> > you may want to add this to your supplement list. Last but not

> least,

> > Magnesium really helps with sleep issues.

> >

> > Sunny

> >

> >

> >

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Jada. I don't believe DMSA will chelate out any copper. It won't lead

to accumulation of copper, which could be an issue with ALA, but I don't

think it will take it out.

I'm unclear on whether there might be any problem chelating with DMSA

while copper toxic.

Dave.

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Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:56 pm (PDT)

If one were following Andy's protocol you would be on Zinc and

molybdenum and this would maintain a balance with copper levels.

....where the problem lies is if you are copper toxic already, you

should reduce it with dmsa before using ala so that it does not get

higher than it already is or should be using dmsa with the lipoic acid.

This is not usually an issue for someone who has normal copper

levels...which you would see in your hair test. If you are chelating

with just ala you'd want to be on zinc and moly to keep copper in

check, which you should be on anyway. Andy's book says that you do not

want to chelate more than half the time with ala or you can raise body

levels of copper and zinc which will cause other mineral to go out of

balance. (pg 90 Amalgam Illness)

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Jada. I don't believe DMSA will chelate out any copper. It won't lead

to accumulation of copper, which could be an issue with ALA, but I don't

think it will take it out.

I'm unclear on whether there might be any problem chelating with DMSA

while copper toxic.

Dave.

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paxlforme@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20ALA%20stores%20CU%20%3F%3F%3F>

paxlforme http://profiles.yahoo.com/paxlforme>

Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:56 pm (PDT)

If one were following Andy's protocol you would be on Zinc and

molybdenum and this would maintain a balance with copper levels.

....where the problem lies is if you are copper toxic already, you

should reduce it with dmsa before using ala so that it does not get

higher than it already is or should be using dmsa with the lipoic acid.

This is not usually an issue for someone who has normal copper

levels...which you would see in your hair test. If you are chelating

with just ala you'd want to be on zinc and moly to keep copper in

check, which you should be on anyway. Andy's book says that you do not

want to chelate more than half the time with ala or you can raise body

levels of copper and zinc which will cause other mineral to go out of

balance. (pg 90 Amalgam Illness)

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In frequent-dose-chelation Dave - AM&FDC Posts wrote:

Jada. I don't believe DMSA will chelate out any copper. It won't lead

to accumulation of copper, which could be an issue with ALA, but I don't

think it will take it out.

-----------I agree Dave, I have never heard that DMSA chelates copper. It is

fine to use it to chelate mercury when you have high copper, but it does not

chelate copper. On page 256 of HTI, Andy says when hair copper levels are over

75, then chelation with ALA for other metals should be restricted somewhat. And

as Jada said, Andy says to take zinc and molybdenum when copper is high to help

reduce it. Andy also says to take things to promote bile flow like taurine,

glycine, milk thistle, and phosphatidylcholine with meals.----------Jackie

I'm unclear on whether there might be any problem chelating with DMSA

while copper toxic.

-------I don't believe there is, as long as you address the high copper with

the appropriate supplements, especially zinc. On page 256 of HTI, Andy says,

" Generally people with mixed copper plus other heavy metal toxicity respond more

rapidly to interventions directed at reducing copper levels than they do to

interventions directed at the other metal. " --------Jackie

Dave.

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Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:56 pm (PDT)

If one were following Andy's protocol you would be on Zinc and

molybdenum and this would maintain a balance with copper levels.

...where the problem lies is if you are copper toxic already, you

should reduce it with dmsa before using ala so that it does not get

higher than it already is or should be using dmsa with the lipoic acid.

This is not usually an issue for someone who has normal copper

levels...which you would see in your hair test. If you are chelating

with just ala you'd want to be on zinc and moly to keep copper in

check, which you should be on anyway. Andy's book says that you do not

want to chelate more than half the time with ala or you can raise body

levels of copper and zinc which will cause other mineral to go out of

balance. (pg 90 Amalgam Illness)

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