Guest guest Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 sunny can you clarify A) ALA stores CU ??? do you mean ala causes your body to store up CU whatever this is? what is CU thanks michael > > ALA stores Cu, and Cu causes racing mind along with other symptoms. > I'll say it is ALA causing insomnia. Vit C and Zinc depletes Cu, so > you may want to add this to your supplement list. Last but not least, > Magnesium really helps with sleep issues. > > Sunny > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 sunny can you clarify A) ALA stores CU ??? do you mean ala causes your body to store up CU whatever this is? what is CU thanks michael > > ALA stores Cu, and Cu causes racing mind along with other symptoms. > I'll say it is ALA causing insomnia. Vit C and Zinc depletes Cu, so > you may want to add this to your supplement list. Last but not least, > Magnesium really helps with sleep issues. > > Sunny > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 sunny can you clarify A) ALA stores CU ??? do you mean ala causes your body to store up CU whatever this is? what is CU thanks michael > > ALA stores Cu, and Cu causes racing mind along with other symptoms. > I'll say it is ALA causing insomnia. Vit C and Zinc depletes Cu, so > you may want to add this to your supplement list. Last but not least, > Magnesium really helps with sleep issues. > > Sunny > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 If one were following Andy's protocol you would be on Zinc and molybdenum and this would maintain a balance with copper levels. ....where the problem lies is if you are copper toxic already, you should reduce it with dmsa before using ala so that it does not get higher than it already is or should be using dmsa with the lipoic acid. This is not usually an issue for someone who has normal copper levels...which you would see in your hair test. If you are chelating with just ala you'd want to be on zinc and moly to keep copper in check, which you should be on anyway. Andy's book says that you do not want to chelate more than half the time with ala or you can raise body levels of copper and zinc which will cause other mineral to go out of balance. (pg 90 Amalgam Illness) > > > > ALA stores Cu, and Cu causes racing mind along with other symptoms. > > I'll say it is ALA causing insomnia. Vit C and Zinc depletes Cu, so > > you may want to add this to your supplement list. Last but not > least, > > Magnesium really helps with sleep issues. > > > > Sunny > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 Jada. I don't believe DMSA will chelate out any copper. It won't lead to accumulation of copper, which could be an issue with ALA, but I don't think it will take it out. I'm unclear on whether there might be any problem chelating with DMSA while copper toxic. Dave. Posted by: " Jada " paxlforme@... paxlforme@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20ALA%20stores%20CU%20%3F%3F%3F> paxlforme http://profiles.yahoo.com/paxlforme> Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:56 pm (PDT) If one were following Andy's protocol you would be on Zinc and molybdenum and this would maintain a balance with copper levels. ....where the problem lies is if you are copper toxic already, you should reduce it with dmsa before using ala so that it does not get higher than it already is or should be using dmsa with the lipoic acid. This is not usually an issue for someone who has normal copper levels...which you would see in your hair test. If you are chelating with just ala you'd want to be on zinc and moly to keep copper in check, which you should be on anyway. Andy's book says that you do not want to chelate more than half the time with ala or you can raise body levels of copper and zinc which will cause other mineral to go out of balance. (pg 90 Amalgam Illness) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 Jada. I don't believe DMSA will chelate out any copper. It won't lead to accumulation of copper, which could be an issue with ALA, but I don't think it will take it out. I'm unclear on whether there might be any problem chelating with DMSA while copper toxic. Dave. Posted by: " Jada " paxlforme@... paxlforme@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20ALA%20stores%20CU%20%3F%3F%3F> paxlforme http://profiles.yahoo.com/paxlforme> Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:56 pm (PDT) If one were following Andy's protocol you would be on Zinc and molybdenum and this would maintain a balance with copper levels. ....where the problem lies is if you are copper toxic already, you should reduce it with dmsa before using ala so that it does not get higher than it already is or should be using dmsa with the lipoic acid. This is not usually an issue for someone who has normal copper levels...which you would see in your hair test. If you are chelating with just ala you'd want to be on zinc and moly to keep copper in check, which you should be on anyway. Andy's book says that you do not want to chelate more than half the time with ala or you can raise body levels of copper and zinc which will cause other mineral to go out of balance. (pg 90 Amalgam Illness) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 In frequent-dose-chelation Dave - AM&FDC Posts wrote: Jada. I don't believe DMSA will chelate out any copper. It won't lead to accumulation of copper, which could be an issue with ALA, but I don't think it will take it out. -----------I agree Dave, I have never heard that DMSA chelates copper. It is fine to use it to chelate mercury when you have high copper, but it does not chelate copper. On page 256 of HTI, Andy says when hair copper levels are over 75, then chelation with ALA for other metals should be restricted somewhat. And as Jada said, Andy says to take zinc and molybdenum when copper is high to help reduce it. Andy also says to take things to promote bile flow like taurine, glycine, milk thistle, and phosphatidylcholine with meals.----------Jackie I'm unclear on whether there might be any problem chelating with DMSA while copper toxic. -------I don't believe there is, as long as you address the high copper with the appropriate supplements, especially zinc. On page 256 of HTI, Andy says, " Generally people with mixed copper plus other heavy metal toxicity respond more rapidly to interventions directed at reducing copper levels than they do to interventions directed at the other metal. " --------Jackie Dave. Posted by: " Jada " paxlforme@... Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:56 pm (PDT) If one were following Andy's protocol you would be on Zinc and molybdenum and this would maintain a balance with copper levels. ...where the problem lies is if you are copper toxic already, you should reduce it with dmsa before using ala so that it does not get higher than it already is or should be using dmsa with the lipoic acid. This is not usually an issue for someone who has normal copper levels...which you would see in your hair test. If you are chelating with just ala you'd want to be on zinc and moly to keep copper in check, which you should be on anyway. Andy's book says that you do not want to chelate more than half the time with ala or you can raise body levels of copper and zinc which will cause other mineral to go out of balance. (pg 90 Amalgam Illness) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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