Re: Can Adrenal support cause skipped heartbeats?

[Guest guest]

>

> Anybody know if adrenal glandular support can cause skipped

> heartbeats? I'm just trying to figure out why I experience skipped

> beats very frequently (sometimes 7 or so per minute), but only when

That's a lot of skipped beats. If you think this started or worsened

after starting the glandular, I would consider dropping it to see if

the problem goes away.

I wonder if improvement in your adrenal hormone levels may have

thrown off other hormone levels. I believe estrogen or thyroid

imbalance can cause symptoms like that.

Another thought is better adrenal hormone levels can help your

body fight underlying infections (yeast, parasites, virus, etc).

Sometimes die-off of pathogens can cause some odd symptoms,

including heart symptoms, twitches, and all sorts of other stuff.

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[Guest guest]

>> Anybody know if adrenal glandular support can cause skipped

>> heartbeats? I'm just trying to figure out why I experience skipped

>> beats very frequently (sometimes 7 or so per minute), but only when

Hi,

Are these new?

Cortisol can help thyroid hormone enter the cells causing this.

You might want to look into this supplement

http://www.wilsonsyndrome.com/Products/cardiac_px_capsules.htm

- I don't know if it conflicts with Andy's protocol.

Many of the WT3 dr's put their patients on it, plus high doses of magnesium

and some Vit D to stabalise the heart before adding thyroid hormone.

As said the estrogen could also be a problem, and you might even

be reacting to the brand.

Glandulars might alter potassium balance that could affect this heart?? I

don't know if that statement is correct, but seems plausible.

DeanSA

[Guest guest]

>> Anybody know if adrenal glandular support can cause skipped

>> heartbeats? I'm just trying to figure out why I experience skipped

>> beats very frequently (sometimes 7 or so per minute), but only when

Hi,

Are these new?

Cortisol can help thyroid hormone enter the cells causing this.

You might want to look into this supplement

http://www.wilsonsyndrome.com/Products/cardiac_px_capsules.htm

- I don't know if it conflicts with Andy's protocol.

Many of the WT3 dr's put their patients on it, plus high doses of magnesium

and some Vit D to stabalise the heart before adding thyroid hormone.

As said the estrogen could also be a problem, and you might even

be reacting to the brand.

Glandulars might alter potassium balance that could affect this heart?? I

don't know if that statement is correct, but seems plausible.

DeanSA

[Guest guest]

>> Anybody know if adrenal glandular support can cause skipped

>> heartbeats? I'm just trying to figure out why I experience skipped

>> beats very frequently (sometimes 7 or so per minute), but only when

Hi,

Are these new?

Cortisol can help thyroid hormone enter the cells causing this.

You might want to look into this supplement

http://www.wilsonsyndrome.com/Products/cardiac_px_capsules.htm

- I don't know if it conflicts with Andy's protocol.

Many of the WT3 dr's put their patients on it, plus high doses of magnesium

and some Vit D to stabalise the heart before adding thyroid hormone.

As said the estrogen could also be a problem, and you might even

be reacting to the brand.

Glandulars might alter potassium balance that could affect this heart?? I

don't know if that statement is correct, but seems plausible.

DeanSA

[Guest guest]

I'm a member of the " natural thyroid adrenals " group, and your

question is a very common experience for people also taking thyroid

meds...some people call it a " thyroid dump " .

Some of the adrenal supplements have a stimulant such as adrenline?

(cant remember the exact name) and that can cause the racing heart.

Or, if you just started the supplement, you could still be low and the

racing heart is a low symptom.

Search for the adrenal group....It has been SO helpful for me, along

with this group.

Tasia

>

>

> >> Anybody know if adrenal glandular support can cause skipped

> >> heartbeats? >

[Guest guest]

I'm a member of the " natural thyroid adrenals " group, and your

question is a very common experience for people also taking thyroid

meds...some people call it a " thyroid dump " .

Some of the adrenal supplements have a stimulant such as adrenline?

(cant remember the exact name) and that can cause the racing heart.

Or, if you just started the supplement, you could still be low and the

racing heart is a low symptom.

Search for the adrenal group....It has been SO helpful for me, along

with this group.

Tasia

>

>

> >> Anybody know if adrenal glandular support can cause skipped

> >> heartbeats? >

[Guest guest]

I'm a member of the " natural thyroid adrenals " group, and your

question is a very common experience for people also taking thyroid

meds...some people call it a " thyroid dump " .

Some of the adrenal supplements have a stimulant such as adrenline?

(cant remember the exact name) and that can cause the racing heart.

Or, if you just started the supplement, you could still be low and the

racing heart is a low symptom.

Search for the adrenal group....It has been SO helpful for me, along

with this group.

Tasia

>

>

> >> Anybody know if adrenal glandular support can cause skipped

> >> heartbeats? >

[Guest guest]

Interesting. And I'll throw this in which I should've already

mentioned: I don't have a thyroid gland anymore thanks to thyroid

cancer 3 years ago. So I take synthroid and my TSH is suppressed

to .1, so the thyroid hormone situation in my body is not normal. I

wonder what kind of impact this has on trying to get proper adrenal

support, etc. I need to call my doc today, because I did get a RT3

test (results should be in), along with T4 and thyroid antibodies

(chose to do the RT3 test to see if I could switch to Armour). But

I'd read that you need to helps adrenals before working on the

thyroid.

I bet the heartbeats are due to the hormone situation (on 4/10 I

will find out results of my echocardiogram and holter monitor test

which I just had - to make sure nothing's wrong with the heart).

>

>

> >> Anybody know if adrenal glandular support can cause skipped

> >> heartbeats? I'm just trying to figure out why I experience

skipped

> >> beats very frequently (sometimes 7 or so per minute), but only

when

>

> Hi,

> Are these new?

> Cortisol can help thyroid hormone enter the cells causing this.

> You might want to look into this supplement

> http://www.wilsonsyndrome.com/Products/cardiac_px_capsules.htm

> - I don't know if it conflicts with Andy's protocol.

> Many of the WT3 dr's put their patients on it, plus high doses of

magnesium

> and some Vit D to stabalise the heart before adding thyroid

hormone.

> As said the estrogen could also be a problem, and you

might even

> be reacting to the brand.

> Glandulars might alter potassium balance that could affect this

heart?? I

> don't know if that statement is correct, but seems plausible.

> DeanSA

>

[Guest guest]

Interesting. And I'll throw this in which I should've already

mentioned: I don't have a thyroid gland anymore thanks to thyroid

cancer 3 years ago. So I take synthroid and my TSH is suppressed

to .1, so the thyroid hormone situation in my body is not normal. I

wonder what kind of impact this has on trying to get proper adrenal

support, etc. I need to call my doc today, because I did get a RT3

test (results should be in), along with T4 and thyroid antibodies

(chose to do the RT3 test to see if I could switch to Armour). But

I'd read that you need to helps adrenals before working on the

thyroid.

I bet the heartbeats are due to the hormone situation (on 4/10 I

will find out results of my echocardiogram and holter monitor test

which I just had - to make sure nothing's wrong with the heart).

>

>

> >> Anybody know if adrenal glandular support can cause skipped

> >> heartbeats? I'm just trying to figure out why I experience

skipped

> >> beats very frequently (sometimes 7 or so per minute), but only

when

>

> Hi,

> Are these new?

> Cortisol can help thyroid hormone enter the cells causing this.

> You might want to look into this supplement

> http://www.wilsonsyndrome.com/Products/cardiac_px_capsules.htm

> - I don't know if it conflicts with Andy's protocol.

> Many of the WT3 dr's put their patients on it, plus high doses of

magnesium

> and some Vit D to stabalise the heart before adding thyroid

hormone.

> As said the estrogen could also be a problem, and you

might even

> be reacting to the brand.

> Glandulars might alter potassium balance that could affect this

heart?? I

> don't know if that statement is correct, but seems plausible.

> DeanSA

>

[Guest guest]

Hi .

I don't know about the glandular, but I do have this problem, including

the muscle twitches, and for me it's all related to electrolytes. The

electrolytes are needed by the muscle cells to signal contraction or

release - for this calcium and magnesium are critical. So, I take an

electrolyte mix with both of them, along with table salt, potassium

chloride, and baking soda.

This is an adrenal, and perhaps also thyroid, problem, as there are

certain hormones that regulate electrolytes and which are not being

properly produced.

Dave.

Posted by: " elizascha " timeliza@...

Sun Mar 30, 2008 2:42 pm (PDT)

Anybody know if adrenal glandular support can cause skipped

heartbeats? I'm just trying to figure out why I experience skipped

beats very frequently (sometimes 7 or so per minute), but only when

resting (lying down mostly, sometimes while sitting - but have to be

pretty relaxed). In the past, I would experience them occasionally

while resting or active. But now I don't really get them at all while

active, which is great. I do get other minor muscle twitches on

different parts of my body, again while resting; maybe this is a part

of that. Or, my alt med doctor suggested possible gluten intolerance

or other food. These resting skipped beats did start around the time

that I began adrenal glandular support, and when I started straying

off my anti-candida diet (I may have created an intolerance to

sugar). I'm not chelating yet, and am most of the AI supps.

[Guest guest]

Hi .

I don't know about the glandular, but I do have this problem, including

the muscle twitches, and for me it's all related to electrolytes. The

electrolytes are needed by the muscle cells to signal contraction or

release - for this calcium and magnesium are critical. So, I take an

electrolyte mix with both of them, along with table salt, potassium

chloride, and baking soda.

This is an adrenal, and perhaps also thyroid, problem, as there are

certain hormones that regulate electrolytes and which are not being

properly produced.

Dave.

Posted by: " elizascha " timeliza@...

Sun Mar 30, 2008 2:42 pm (PDT)

Anybody know if adrenal glandular support can cause skipped

heartbeats? I'm just trying to figure out why I experience skipped

beats very frequently (sometimes 7 or so per minute), but only when

resting (lying down mostly, sometimes while sitting - but have to be

pretty relaxed). In the past, I would experience them occasionally

while resting or active. But now I don't really get them at all while

active, which is great. I do get other minor muscle twitches on

different parts of my body, again while resting; maybe this is a part

of that. Or, my alt med doctor suggested possible gluten intolerance

or other food. These resting skipped beats did start around the time

that I began adrenal glandular support, and when I started straying

off my anti-candida diet (I may have created an intolerance to

sugar). I'm not chelating yet, and am most of the AI supps.

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Dave. I take cal and mag. About 750 mg calcium citrate and

400 mg magnesium glycinate. Maybe it's not enough? Or not the best

kinds? What is the electrolyte mix you take? I should probably do

that. And is baking soda bad for your stomach acidity? How much

potassium? How much baking soda?

Thank you,

>

> Hi .

>

> I don't know about the glandular, but I do have this problem,

including

> the muscle twitches, and for me it's all related to electrolytes.

The

> electrolytes are needed by the muscle cells to signal contraction

or

> release - for this calcium and magnesium are critical. So, I take

an

> electrolyte mix with both of them, along with table salt,

potassium

> chloride, and baking soda.

>

> This is an adrenal, and perhaps also thyroid, problem, as there

are

> certain hormones that regulate electrolytes and which are not

being

> properly produced.

>

> Dave.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

I take baking soda for my acid stomach and

I just love it .....works instantly !! Just follow

the instruction on the box ...I believe its 1/2

teaspoon per glass and make sure its dissoved

all the way ....I also use this for brushing my teeth

and just love it .

Love

Re: Can Adrenal support cause skipped

heartbeats?

Thanks, Dave. I take cal and mag. About 750 mg calcium citrate and

400 mg magnesium glycinate. Maybe it's not enough? Or not the best

kinds? What is the electrolyte mix you take? I should probably do

that. And is baking soda bad for your stomach acidity? How much

potassium? How much baking soda?

Thank you,

>

> Hi .

>

> I don't know about the glandular, but I do have this problem,

including

> the muscle twitches, and for me it's all related to electrolytes.

The

> electrolytes are needed by the muscle cells to signal contraction

or

> release - for this calcium and magnesium are critical. So, I take

an

> electrolyte mix with both of them, along with table salt,

potassium

> chloride, and baking soda.

>

> This is an adrenal, and perhaps also thyroid, problem, as there

are

> certain hormones that regulate electrolytes and which are not

being

> properly produced.

>

> Dave.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

I take baking soda for my acid stomach and

I just love it .....works instantly !! Just follow

the instruction on the box ...I believe its 1/2

teaspoon per glass and make sure its dissoved

all the way ....I also use this for brushing my teeth

and just love it .

Love

Re: Can Adrenal support cause skipped

heartbeats?

Thanks, Dave. I take cal and mag. About 750 mg calcium citrate and

400 mg magnesium glycinate. Maybe it's not enough? Or not the best

kinds? What is the electrolyte mix you take? I should probably do

that. And is baking soda bad for your stomach acidity? How much

potassium? How much baking soda?

Thank you,

>

> Hi .

>

> I don't know about the glandular, but I do have this problem,

including

> the muscle twitches, and for me it's all related to electrolytes.

The

> electrolytes are needed by the muscle cells to signal contraction

or

> release - for this calcium and magnesium are critical. So, I take

an

> electrolyte mix with both of them, along with table salt,

potassium

> chloride, and baking soda.

>

> This is an adrenal, and perhaps also thyroid, problem, as there

are

> certain hormones that regulate electrolytes and which are not

being

> properly produced.

>

> Dave.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

these sound like palpitations. What glandular are you on? Is it a

whole adrenal glandular or is it adrenal cortex??

Many people cant' take whole adrenal because it contains adrenaline

which can cause this to happen. I have had it happen myself. Cortex

won't do that usually.

>

> Anybody know if adrenal glandular support can cause skipped

> heartbeats? I'm just trying to figure out why I experience skipped

> beats very frequently (sometimes 7 or so per minute), but only when

> resting (lying down mostly, sometimes while sitting - but have to be

> pretty relaxed). In the past, I would experience them occasionally

> while resting or active. But now I don't really get them at all while

> active, which is great. I do get other minor muscle twitches on

> different parts of my body, again while resting; maybe this is a part

> of that. Or, my alt med doctor suggested possible gluten intolerance

> or other food. These resting skipped beats did start around the time

> that I began adrenal glandular support, and when I started straying

> off my anti-candida diet (I may have created an intolerance to

> sugar). I'm not chelating yet, and am most of the AI supps.

>

>

[Guest guest]

these sound like palpitations. What glandular are you on? Is it a

whole adrenal glandular or is it adrenal cortex??

Many people cant' take whole adrenal because it contains adrenaline

which can cause this to happen. I have had it happen myself. Cortex

won't do that usually.

>

> Anybody know if adrenal glandular support can cause skipped

> heartbeats? I'm just trying to figure out why I experience skipped

> beats very frequently (sometimes 7 or so per minute), but only when

> resting (lying down mostly, sometimes while sitting - but have to be

> pretty relaxed). In the past, I would experience them occasionally

> while resting or active. But now I don't really get them at all while

> active, which is great. I do get other minor muscle twitches on

> different parts of my body, again while resting; maybe this is a part

> of that. Or, my alt med doctor suggested possible gluten intolerance

> or other food. These resting skipped beats did start around the time

> that I began adrenal glandular support, and when I started straying

> off my anti-candida diet (I may have created an intolerance to

> sugar). I'm not chelating yet, and am most of the AI supps.

>

>

[Guest guest]

- I'm not sure, but that may not be enough. I've been taking

about 1gm of calcium, in the form of calcium ascorbate.

Here is my mix, modified from Andy's:

(1) 2 tsp calcium asocrbate

(2) 1/2 tsp table salt

(3) 1/4 tsp baking soda

(4) 1/8 tsp potassium salt.

All mixed in a quart jar with 3/4 quart of water and 1/4 quart of some

sweet juice (the latter is necessary to avoid stomach upset). I drink

from 1 to 2 Qt of that mixture a day. Instead of calcium ascorbate, I

used some magnesium ascorbate for a while, but found that I got loose

stools.

Andy's mix does not include the calcium/magnesium ascorbate, but does

include some magnesium sulfate - which is really icky tasting and caused

some symptoms for me - could be different for you. You can play around

with this a little, but don't increase the potassium salt, as more than

about 1/2tsp a day can potentially be dangerous. Be aware that both the

magensium and the vitamin C can cause loose stools, so adjust as needed.

I noticed that Andy had said that those of us with adrenal problems

would become " adequately messed up " without replacing electrolytes, so I

started taking this and found that my heart arrhythmia (and muscle

cramps/tightness) went away. (The heart arrhythmia had been noted by my

doctor when I was 17.) In trying to understand why it worked, I

discovered that there is a hormone produced by the adrenals that

regulates electrolytes, and mercury blocks the production of that

hormone - which I believe is why Andy suggests electrolyte replacement.

(In Andy's first book, which I don't have here, but it's the page where

he has pictures of the horomonal system.) In most of his book he talks

about lots of magnesium for FM/cramps, but someone on the A-M list had

mentioned that they got rid of TMJ with calcium. I also noticed that

there is a thyroid hormone that affects specifically calcium levels, and

that hormone is implicated in certain types of heart arrythmias. So,

< > this is why calcium, particularly, is helping.

In any case, experimenting with this a bit can't hurt.

.... Oh, and I understand that there may be absorption issues with

calcium. You might want to search around to find what forms are most

easily assimilated.

Dave.

Posted by: " elizascha " timeliza@... elizascha

Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:16 pm (PDT)

Thanks, Dave. I take cal and mag. About 750 mg calcium citrate and

400 mg magnesium glycinate. Maybe it's not enough? Or not the best

kinds? What is the electrolyte mix you take? I should probably do

that. And is baking soda bad for your stomach acidity? How much

potassium? How much baking soda?

Thank you,