Guest guest Posted March 9, 2008 Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 Hello Im sure i have a lead issue as i used to lick windowsills when i was a kid. How long should i use DMSA post extraction before adding in ALA? is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2008 Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 > > Hello > > Im sure i have a lead issue as i used to lick windowsills when i was a > kid. How long should i use DMSA post extraction before adding in ALA? > ALA can be added 3 months after all amalgam has been removed and sources of exposure to heavy metals stopped. J > is > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 hello > is. Notice that these are two different issues. One issue is how > long to wait, after amalgam removal, before using ALA. That's 3 months, > and the reason is to make sure that the mercury that you were exposed to > on removal has settled into the tissues of the body, and that some > equilibrium has been reached between the body and brain. Before this > point, you can use DMSA and DMPS, because they won't have the effect of > moving the higher body concentration of mercury into the brain. After > this point, when equilibrium is reached, you can start using ALA. Thanks for letting me know that. > > The other issue is how to deal with lead poisoning. For that you need > DMSA on a schedule of 3 days a month for years. The reason is that the > lead is in the bones (rather than the soft tissues, as in the case of > mercury) and takes a long time to leech out. So, little by little, you > clean out the bloodstream, which allows more to slowly leech out. 3 days a month? That doesnt seem like its often enough to me. > > Notice that DMSA will not take lead out of the brain. Andy has said > that ALA _might_ take some lead out of the brain. I take that to mean > that there is very little data. Ok thanks > > Dave. > > > is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 > > > >The other issue is how to deal with lead poisoning. For that you need > > >DMSA on a schedule of 3 days a month for years. The reason is that the > > >lead is in the bones (rather than the soft tissues, as in the case of > > >mercury) and takes a long time to leech out. So, little by little, you > > >clean out the bloodstream, which allows more to slowly leech out. > > >3 days a month? That doesnt seem like its often enough to me. > > I know, but it won't go any faster. Once you use the DMSA for 3 days, > the lead in the blood has been removed. It then takes a couple of weeks > for more to leech out from the bones. My understanding is that in the beginning the lead will come out faster and chelating more often makes sense. After some time (I think a few months is an estimate), then it slows down and once a month is sufficient to chelate for lead with DMSA. However, most people with lead have some mercury, too, so chelating with (at least) ALA more often usually makes sense. > Of course, since you're mercury toxic too, more DMSA chelation can help > with that, though it would be more helpful to spend that time with ALA > (assuming the initial 3 months post amalgam removal have passed). Also, > DMSA does have a potential and rare (but quite dangerous) effect on > neutrophils, and I tend to be cautious, so I don't use it more than I While caution is certainly reasonable, I have had low neutrophil counts for years. I used DMSA regularly for 1.5 years and I still do a round (with 75 mg doses) at least every other month. I haven't had a significant problem, though I think there might have been more neutrophil-reducing effect in the beginning. I can't say for sure since I didn't do lots of blood tests. That said, I probably do have underlying infections, but those very likely existed before I started chelating. -- > have to. (I'm both mercury and lead toxic too. The lead is coming down > slowly ... I just hope the ALA can get it out of the brain.) > > Dave. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 > > > >The other issue is how to deal with lead poisoning. For that you need > > >DMSA on a schedule of 3 days a month for years. The reason is that the > > >lead is in the bones (rather than the soft tissues, as in the case of > > >mercury) and takes a long time to leech out. So, little by little, you > > >clean out the bloodstream, which allows more to slowly leech out. > > >3 days a month? That doesnt seem like its often enough to me. > > I know, but it won't go any faster. Once you use the DMSA for 3 days, > the lead in the blood has been removed. It then takes a couple of weeks > for more to leech out from the bones. My understanding is that in the beginning the lead will come out faster and chelating more often makes sense. After some time (I think a few months is an estimate), then it slows down and once a month is sufficient to chelate for lead with DMSA. However, most people with lead have some mercury, too, so chelating with (at least) ALA more often usually makes sense. > Of course, since you're mercury toxic too, more DMSA chelation can help > with that, though it would be more helpful to spend that time with ALA > (assuming the initial 3 months post amalgam removal have passed). Also, > DMSA does have a potential and rare (but quite dangerous) effect on > neutrophils, and I tend to be cautious, so I don't use it more than I While caution is certainly reasonable, I have had low neutrophil counts for years. I used DMSA regularly for 1.5 years and I still do a round (with 75 mg doses) at least every other month. I haven't had a significant problem, though I think there might have been more neutrophil-reducing effect in the beginning. I can't say for sure since I didn't do lots of blood tests. That said, I probably do have underlying infections, but those very likely existed before I started chelating. -- > have to. (I'm both mercury and lead toxic too. The lead is coming down > slowly ... I just hope the ALA can get it out of the brain.) > > Dave. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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