Guest guest Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 Below is Phil's original **recovered** message with line feeds added to help out those people who had difficulty reading the original message. **Please*** skip past this message if you read the original message. Thanks J ********************************************************************** http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/frequent-dose-chelation/message/24072 Hi I thought I better post this now, I should have months ago. I have not been here for quite a while because all of my symptoms cleared up. When the last few issues started to clear up I began to reduce the supplements I took. I am not just taking a few supplements, B comp, magnesium, zinc & selenium. I went from having issues with arthritis, allergies to everything, diet was the bare minmum based on low carb because of really bad digestion and related issues, really bad fatigue, brain fog, chemical sensitivities to name a few. The last things to clear were the digestive issues, e.g. 6 months in I could tolerate carots, squashes, a few months later foods like leeks, garlic, onions. Then rice, 3 months after that potatoes, another 3 months bread. At this point I was a good 15 months in. Then finally casein (bovine protein). I had been fine all the way through with fermented goats milk but could never tolerate anything from a cow. Also worth mentioning throughout the time I was chelating I was trying foods out and then all of a sudden I would not get fatigued, or have digestive issues. So it was not just a one off, I think I will try that and I was fine. Going back to the other issues, I had been experimenting with things for 2 yrs before doing chelation mainly because I was worried about it being dangerous and I was hoping my issues were not mercury related. I had all sorts of people like Bee with her diet, nutritionists, doctors etc advising or promoting something, none of which worked. Not to say that what they were saying was useless, each had a point but they just did not focus on the root issues, just specific points. e.g. Doctors with antibiotics for the gut, parasites, bacteria etc. Bee with her diet, this could be any of the low carb diets though, hamptoms, atkins, jordon rubin, body ecology, protein power you name it, again in this instance I viewed this as something to help control gut issues/symptoms and to also allow the gut to try and heal up whilst chelating. The worst advise for me was probably from the nutrionists, I am sure there are good ones out there though but none seemed to even understand any of the issues. I was on practically 100% carb, 0 protein, 0 fat at one point, being given all sorts of things like paragone, various herbs, primal defence etc. To me looking back these sort of approaches seem crazy, I did not really know anything about nutrition myself back then though. But I had to waste lots of money on people before thinking right lets have a go myself because everyone else just seemed interested in money. So I used low carb to control symtoms with oils/fats for calories and then chelated to resolve the issues. After 3 months I could run for 5 mins and walk for a few miles. At first I had real recovery issues but after the first few occasions I started to tolerate exercise better. I had all the digestive issues clear gradually as mentioned above as did all the other issues. But in comparision to everything I tried this was very fast, don't get me wrong it was a good 6 months in before I could really start doing things and it was not much but in comparion to the previous 2-3 yrs I went no where. My weight is now normal and I weight train again, I can also work long hours. Not to say this is the norm just that I can do it. I can literally do very aggresive training again with normal recovery times and this really surprised me the most. I had various issues along the way as did and do most people, you can find all the various posts though I expect in the archives. I am now at round 107 just about 2yrs of chelation. Started out at 25mg dmsa/4hrs. 5 rounds went to 50mg, 10 rounds went to 25mg dmsa/50mg ala. Stopped DMSA round 45. Increase ALA to 100mg shortly after but started getting issues with pains in my fingers after 8 rounds or so. So then just stayed at 50mg ALA per dose each round for the rest of the time till now. During this time the only other thing I could think of is my magnesium requirement went down, e.g diarrhea so dropped down 100mg which resoved it. I started out a 600mg with cider vinegar which I found helped with absorbtion. Saying that without the vineger to bring it (mag glycinate) to base PH I could not tolerate it anyway, it made me really tired. B comp did the same at first, more pure versions were not too bad. Its difficult to cover everything and I hope I have not waffled too much. But everyone always posted at some point, wheres the recovery stories, not just feeling better but 100% done. So I thought I would wait till this point and post it. Hope this helps with any motivation with any of your approaches. Obviously a big thanks to Cutler, he did help me personally a few times with posts but his work on this and his book for me was a life saver. The book was spot on. If I can help with anything or if anyone has any specific questions please let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 Hello > > Below is Phil's original **recovered** message with line feeds added > to help out those people who had difficulty reading the original message. Thanks for doing this for me. This story is very inspirational. I am 28 years old and just starting out. Once i can afford a DAN! doctor then i will go so he/seh can help me chelate and recover quicker. > > is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 Hello > > Below is Phil's original **recovered** message with line feeds added > to help out those people who had difficulty reading the original message. Thanks for doing this for me. This story is very inspirational. I am 28 years old and just starting out. Once i can afford a DAN! doctor then i will go so he/seh can help me chelate and recover quicker. > > is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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