Re: change 12.5 DMSA dose mid round?

March 23, 2008

Hi Robin, and welcome home from Hawaii ! Some comments below.----------Jackie

In frequent-dose-chelation robin wrote:

I've tried to be light about this (denial?) but this afternoon I'm

getting a bit scared; feel anxious, dizzy, brainfogged -- kind of

speedy but tired at the same time..

----------Some of that could be adrenals. I don't remember if you're taking

anything for those? Maybe even extra sea salt in water would help, and C and

B's are good too. If you are taking/using ACE or HC, then try more of that

too.-----Jackie

I'm 32 hours into my 1st round after a 2 month break of no chelating

whatsoever. Didn't feel that great before starting round but felt

better after second dose yesterday.

----------There is alot of nasty stuff (viruses) going around, and you may

just still be wiped out from the trip, it sounded rather exhausting. So maybe

chelation on top of not feeling great was just too much right

now.-----------Jackie

Should I lower 12.5mg to half that amount at the next dose of THIS

round?

---------No. You should never lower doses during a round. This will cause

redistribution. It is better to just end the round and start lower next

time.------Jackie

Or should I wait until the end of the whole round which is the

day after tomorrow? Then, after a few days, start up again at half

the dose? Or?

------------Yes. You'll have to decide if you can tolerate and finish this

round as is. If the symptoms get too bad, then just end the round early. Then

in a few days, if you feel well enough, then maybe try a lower

dose.---------Jackie

I've tried the various helping treatments like glutamine, taurine,

gaba -- all a few hours apart because I know they compete. Also lots

of C and some b's and my usual magnesium in the form of Ionic Fizz.

I'm a bit confused because, all together, I've done about 6

successful rounds of DMSA at 12.5mg and always seem to feel okay. Not

great but okay. I don't want to step backward.

----------It is frustrating to go backward, but it does happen, probably to

most of us at some point for some reason or another. And many people have said

that after taking a break from chelation that they have had to lower their dose

for awhile, so this isn't uncommon. Nobody likes taking a step backward, but it

almost seems to be part of the process, so I guess I just want to prepare you

that this more than likely will happen to you along the way. Just hang in

there, and as somebody said recently, just keep plodding along

--------Jackie

Confusing the matter is that I just haven't been feeling very well

for a couple months and assumed I'd be gradually getting better. Not

worse. Any help appreciated...

-----------First of all, it is part of the natural progression of mercury

detox, to feel worse for awhile, before getting better. Andy has said many

times to study the graph on page 52 of AI and understand it. Secondly, people

react differently to amalgam removal and how they feel afterwards. Some feel

better right away, some feel worse, and some have a honeymoon period and then

feel worse, before getting better, and maybe some feel about the same. And

thirdly, and I think I can relate to this very well, been there done that, is

that you have been under alot of stress taking care of others and not yourself,

and maybe you don't realize how hard this has been on you. If you want to chat

about this personally, just drop me a line, because I went through alot with my

mother during this whole mercury/chelation nightmare, and I think I am now just

realizing what a toll it has taken on me, and is part of the reason it is taking

me so long to get well. Don't underestimate how hard on your adrenals that

emotional stress is. And throw mercury poisoning in on top of it all, you have

alot on your plate, and your poor body can only handle so much. So my advice to

you is to be as kind to yourself as you can. You just did a wonderful thing for

your parents, but now it's time to take care of yourself. If you don't, you

might not be able to help them the next time they need you. Take

care-----------Jackie

~robin

March 23, 2008

>> getting a bit scared; feel anxious, dizzy, brainfogged -- kind

>> of speedy but tired at the same time.. ~robin

> ----------Some of that could be adrenals. -Jackie

Thanks Jackie, Like many here, I was diagnosed years ago with CFS,

couldn't hold down a full-time job since the late 80's, just couldn't

predict the energy for the day. Went through all the hoops finally to

arrive, ONLY 5 months ago, at this business of heavy metals.

I got the test because I'd developed super bad chemical sensitivity.

(And yes car exhaust makes me instantly anxious like Andy says.

That's so weird...) There was simply nowhere else to look except

metals.

And I've tried adrenal supplementation but, oddly enough, I can't

sleep, get too revved. So I think my adrenals may actually be okay?

I think it's more what you say later in your nice post: the recent

teeth stuff combined with the fact that, prior to learning about

Andy's wonderful work, the test I took was the provoked urine test,

followed by several courses of intraveneous DMPS/EDTA, with, of

course chlorella and cilantro thrown in. Just a few months ago I

nearly went bonkers with vertigo so bad I thought I might die right

then and there so......... I think you're right about how it hits

people differently, later. That stuff is just all stirred up..

And, yes, the stress of the parents thing: y'know it's hard when we

metal people all look so healthy on the outside. (I project amazing

good health and energy and then crash later,) No one can imagine how

sick we really are. And with parents you get the double thing of, you

don't want them to be so sorry and disappointed especially when

they're sick and need your care. It gets all mixed up..

So thanks for your very kind support Jackie. It helped to hear that..

~robin

March 23, 2008