Guest guest Posted August 22, 2001 Report Share Posted August 22, 2001 > We've finally found out today that the reason dd2 (18 months) has had a high temperature and been looking/behaving unwell on and off for the last ten days is that she has a UTI. What's UTI, Cath? If it is what I think it is (ie urinary tract infection) I had it every few months when I was a child and had major tests done when I was 5, but luckily grew out of it (they didn't find any 'fault' or specific reason I should get it, I just did). I've had it a few times as an adult but it has always gone away again with antibiotics. WARNING: Apologies if the following is a bit medical - so don't read if you are eating your dinner (but how else to talk about UTI!!!) I just read up on it, as I was wondering how to notice if DD got it, and apparently it's hard for kids under 2 to reliably tell you about the first symptoms (painful to pee etc) so it sometimes develops further into an infection with fever etc. It's quite common (in Norway they quote 8% of girls get it at least once before they are 5) - one of the main reason is bacteria entering in the area outside the UT, which is difficult to avoid with babies in nappies!! (But that's the reason it's always recommended to wipe from front to back - so bacteria from the intestines don't get a chance to crawl up the unitary tracts). Another preventive measure is lots to drink all the time, as this flushes out any bacteria more frequently. When I was little they also thought that being very cold (eg wet pants for ages or sitting in the snow for hours :-)) could give you UTI but I don't think that's seen as a cause anymore. Apparently amongst girls with recurring UTI about 1/3 have some form of 'fault' or 'complication' in the UT system, but that leaves a lot that haven't! If you do have a 'fault' they sometimes operate - but quite often it's just treated with antibiotics even then. The reason why they want you to come back is presumably that they want to check progress - but also they always send samples away to grow so they can find out what type of bacteria was involved - if any (at least this is what happens in Norway). In my experience they will often give you a form of antibiotics right away, but then when they get the results they can change the medication of necessary (or tell you that you never had it in the first place - in which case you are still asked to continue the course of antibiotics). Hopefully it's just a one-off for your DD! HTH Karina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2001 Report Share Posted August 22, 2001 > We've finally found out today that the reason dd2 (18 months) has had a high temperature and been looking/behaving unwell on and off for the last ten days is that she has a UTI. What's UTI, Cath? If it is what I think it is (ie urinary tract infection) I had it every few months when I was a child and had major tests done when I was 5, but luckily grew out of it (they didn't find any 'fault' or specific reason I should get it, I just did). I've had it a few times as an adult but it has always gone away again with antibiotics. WARNING: Apologies if the following is a bit medical - so don't read if you are eating your dinner (but how else to talk about UTI!!!) I just read up on it, as I was wondering how to notice if DD got it, and apparently it's hard for kids under 2 to reliably tell you about the first symptoms (painful to pee etc) so it sometimes develops further into an infection with fever etc. It's quite common (in Norway they quote 8% of girls get it at least once before they are 5) - one of the main reason is bacteria entering in the area outside the UT, which is difficult to avoid with babies in nappies!! (But that's the reason it's always recommended to wipe from front to back - so bacteria from the intestines don't get a chance to crawl up the unitary tracts). Another preventive measure is lots to drink all the time, as this flushes out any bacteria more frequently. When I was little they also thought that being very cold (eg wet pants for ages or sitting in the snow for hours :-)) could give you UTI but I don't think that's seen as a cause anymore. Apparently amongst girls with recurring UTI about 1/3 have some form of 'fault' or 'complication' in the UT system, but that leaves a lot that haven't! If you do have a 'fault' they sometimes operate - but quite often it's just treated with antibiotics even then. The reason why they want you to come back is presumably that they want to check progress - but also they always send samples away to grow so they can find out what type of bacteria was involved - if any (at least this is what happens in Norway). In my experience they will often give you a form of antibiotics right away, but then when they get the results they can change the medication of necessary (or tell you that you never had it in the first place - in which case you are still asked to continue the course of antibiotics). Hopefully it's just a one-off for your DD! HTH Karina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2001 Report Share Posted August 22, 2001 > If it is what I think it is (ie urinary tract infection) I had it > every few months when I was a child and had major tests done when I > was 5, but luckily grew out of it (they didn't find any 'fault' or > specific reason I should get it, I just did). I've had it a few times > as an adult but it has always gone away again with antibiotics. I agree with Karina - my niece (now 10) was checked frequently around the age of 2 onwards because of UTIs and she eventually grew out of it. DS2 has had 3 bouts so far and had a kidney scan too - he is the one with the poo problem (holding it in for weeks and then having problems getting it out)...maybe it does run in families as my niece (she is my brother's daughter) and DS2 look like they could be brother and sister!..I suppose we'll end up with a long discussion on genetics again... Anyway the main thing is that they are taking it seriously with Ellie and keeping an eye on it - I'm sure it will be fine. Caroline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2001 Report Share Posted August 22, 2001 > If it is what I think it is (ie urinary tract infection) I had it > every few months when I was a child and had major tests done when I > was 5, but luckily grew out of it (they didn't find any 'fault' or > specific reason I should get it, I just did). I've had it a few times > as an adult but it has always gone away again with antibiotics. I agree with Karina - my niece (now 10) was checked frequently around the age of 2 onwards because of UTIs and she eventually grew out of it. DS2 has had 3 bouts so far and had a kidney scan too - he is the one with the poo problem (holding it in for weeks and then having problems getting it out)...maybe it does run in families as my niece (she is my brother's daughter) and DS2 look like they could be brother and sister!..I suppose we'll end up with a long discussion on genetics again... Anyway the main thing is that they are taking it seriously with Ellie and keeping an eye on it - I'm sure it will be fine. Caroline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2001 Report Share Posted August 22, 2001 > > And does this mean I should give all her cloth nappies a very hot wash, > or am I just being ridiculous?! > > Thanks > > -- > Cath ------ It wouldn't do any harm, and would be one less thing for you to worry about. HTH Tupman Mum to Matt 13, 10, Jonty 2 & Phil 36 Torbay & S.Devon Branch NCT Houseswap Register Coordinator NCT UK Trustee Go placidly amidst noise and haste. Why not visit www.nctpregnancyandbabycare.com Or go shopping with NCT Maternity Sales www.nctms.co.uk _________________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2001 Report Share Posted August 22, 2001 I've heard that cranberry juice can help those prone to UTI's. IIRC it works because it makes the inside of the tubes more slipery and less sticky so that the germs are more easily washed out. I think it was Belinda who said that one of the hospitals she 'looked after' had a geriatric ward which tried out having cranberry juice available so that if one of the patients showed signs of a UTI then the nurses could offer them some canberry juice straight away. Previously they had to wait until the next time a Dr was around to prescribe something - apparently it made a significant difference to the infection rates and the patients liked it to. You might want to check with your GP that it is OK for a little one to have this (can't think why not!). You might even find some info about it on the web. (I've had a quick look and can find quite a few articles saying that it helps but nothing that refers to any formal resarch) HTH Liz Goudie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2001 Report Share Posted August 23, 2001 So true. My mom is very prone to UTI's and she now takes some sort of cranberry pill(?) every morning (recommended by her doctor). I try to drink it as often as I can, and I haven't had one now in a number of years. I've started Ella on it as well... she's just 1 now and has been having it since around 7/8 months. She has some (watered down) every morning. Sara > I've heard that cranberry juice can help those prone to UTI's. > IIRC it works because it makes the inside of the tubes more slipery and less > sticky so that the germs are more easily washed out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2001 Report Share Posted August 23, 2001 Gosh , how do you find sufficiently ripe kiwis? I gave up giving them to Tim because they're always rock hard in the UK and gave him terrible indigestion - the only thing that ever gives us bad nights with tim is tummy ache, when he'll cry and cry with pain. Anneliese and worn out Toddler Tim - 3 days in a row at nursery! Re: Re: UTIs > > In NZ, Christchurch, I think, a special blend of crushed/pulped kiwi > fruit is offered to people with constipation. The drink also contains > honey IIRC. It is offered to patients such as those with stomach cancer > (which is how I found out about it when MIL had that last year) as well > as suggested to pregnant women who are constipated. I don't think you > can even buy commercially prepared kiwi juice over here but I think the > concoction MIL was given was prepared in a certain way, rather than just > being a juice. > > -- > Sue > ------ I can certainly vouch for kiwis moving things!! My little ones have one every day with their lunch, and they have no problem producing a dirty nappy for me each day. Tupman Mum to Matt 13, 10, Jonty 2 & Phil 36 Torbay & S.Devon Branch NCT Houseswap Register Coordinator NCT UK Trustee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2001 Report Share Posted August 23, 2001 Gosh , how do you find sufficiently ripe kiwis? I gave up giving them to Tim because they're always rock hard in the UK and gave him terrible indigestion - the only thing that ever gives us bad nights with tim is tummy ache, when he'll cry and cry with pain. Anneliese and worn out Toddler Tim - 3 days in a row at nursery! Re: Re: UTIs > > In NZ, Christchurch, I think, a special blend of crushed/pulped kiwi > fruit is offered to people with constipation. The drink also contains > honey IIRC. It is offered to patients such as those with stomach cancer > (which is how I found out about it when MIL had that last year) as well > as suggested to pregnant women who are constipated. I don't think you > can even buy commercially prepared kiwi juice over here but I think the > concoction MIL was given was prepared in a certain way, rather than just > being a juice. > > -- > Sue > ------ I can certainly vouch for kiwis moving things!! My little ones have one every day with their lunch, and they have no problem producing a dirty nappy for me each day. Tupman Mum to Matt 13, 10, Jonty 2 & Phil 36 Torbay & S.Devon Branch NCT Houseswap Register Coordinator NCT UK Trustee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2001 Report Share Posted August 23, 2001 Gosh , how do you find sufficiently ripe kiwis? I gave up giving them to Tim because they're always rock hard in the UK and gave him terrible indigestion - the only thing that ever gives us bad nights with tim is tummy ache, when he'll cry and cry with pain. Anneliese and worn out Toddler Tim - 3 days in a row at nursery! Re: Re: UTIs > > In NZ, Christchurch, I think, a special blend of crushed/pulped kiwi > fruit is offered to people with constipation. The drink also contains > honey IIRC. It is offered to patients such as those with stomach cancer > (which is how I found out about it when MIL had that last year) as well > as suggested to pregnant women who are constipated. I don't think you > can even buy commercially prepared kiwi juice over here but I think the > concoction MIL was given was prepared in a certain way, rather than just > being a juice. > > -- > Sue > ------ I can certainly vouch for kiwis moving things!! My little ones have one every day with their lunch, and they have no problem producing a dirty nappy for me each day. Tupman Mum to Matt 13, 10, Jonty 2 & Phil 36 Torbay & S.Devon Branch NCT Houseswap Register Coordinator NCT UK Trustee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2001 Report Share Posted August 23, 2001 >We've finally found out today that the reason dd2 (18 months) has had a >high temperature and been looking/behaving unwell on and off for the >last ten days is that she has a UTI. (Not particularly impressed with >the hospital which took from last Thursday until today to get the >results back to my GP!) > >The GP has told me I must take her back in a weeks time so it can be >followed up - anyone know what this means, and what it might entail? Is >it possible that she has inherited dh's rather muddled & deformed >urinary system? And are there any websites where I can get more >information without frightening myself silly! > >And does this mean I should give all her cloth nappies a very hot wash, >or am I just being ridiculous?! > >Thanks > >-- >Cath We were told that DS2 had had a UTI - it was a bit of a shock as we were there about DS1. However, we reckoned that it wasn't a reliable result as due to a tale far too long to tell, the sample had been hanging about too long and although it showed bacterial growth, there were no white cells IIRC. He was well again. We were given antibiotics and a urology referral. After some thought we decided we weren't happy giving antibiotics to a child who seemed to have recovered, and were quite pleased that the urologist endorsed our decision. His view was that had it been a UTI he wouldn't have recovered. He did have a scan of his kidneys (really no big deal at all - like a pregnancy one, opportunity for radiologist to admire cloth nappies) but DHs family have polycystic kidneys (DH has chosen not to be screened for it) -- jennifer@... Vaudin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2001 Report Share Posted August 23, 2001 > Gosh , how do you find sufficiently ripe kiwis? I gave up giving them > to Tim because they're always rock hard in the UK and gave him terrible > indigestion - the only thing that ever gives us bad nights with tim is tummy > ache, when he'll cry and cry with pain. > > Anneliese and worn out Toddler Tim - 3 days in a row at nursery! > --- Well I get them from Sainsbury's or rather DH does, organic ones no less:-) We have to leave them a week before we eat them. Tupman Mum to Matt 13, 10, Jonty 2 & Phil 36 Torbay & S.Devon Branch NCT Houseswap Register Coordinator NCT UK Trustee Go placidly amidst noise and haste. Why not visit www.nctpregnancyandbabycare.com Or go shopping with NCT Maternity Sales www.nctms.co.uk _________________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2001 Report Share Posted August 23, 2001 > Gosh , how do you find sufficiently ripe kiwis? I gave up giving them > to Tim because they're always rock hard in the UK and gave him terrible > indigestion - the only thing that ever gives us bad nights with tim is tummy > ache, when he'll cry and cry with pain. > > Anneliese and worn out Toddler Tim - 3 days in a row at nursery! > --- Well I get them from Sainsbury's or rather DH does, organic ones no less:-) We have to leave them a week before we eat them. Tupman Mum to Matt 13, 10, Jonty 2 & Phil 36 Torbay & S.Devon Branch NCT Houseswap Register Coordinator NCT UK Trustee Go placidly amidst noise and haste. Why not visit www.nctpregnancyandbabycare.com Or go shopping with NCT Maternity Sales www.nctms.co.uk _________________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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