Re: Roland--Thyroid and Adrenals

[Guest guest]

Roland, did you get any feedback on your hair test? I have it printed out, but

don't recall if I got around to commenting. Did or Dean look at it?

More below--------Jackie

In frequent-dose-chelation Roland wrote:

T-3 Uptake 31 Range 22.5 -37

T-4 Total 9.0 Range 3.2-12.6

T-4 Free 2.8 Range 1.0 - 4.0

TSH 1.52 0.45 - 4.50

-----------I'm not the thyroid expert, but these don't look too bad. Not

optimal, but not terrible either. They say your Free T3 and T4 should be in the

upper 1/3 to 1/4 of the range, to feel best. You look kind of in the middle.

If you do have hypothyroid symptoms, then you should probably have thyroid

antibodies tested also. TSH doesn't always mean much, especially if you have

mercury poisoning and/or Hashi's (antibodies). High TSH means hypothyroid, low

TSH means hyper. I don't remember what your symptoms are, so here's a link to a

chart that lists thyroid and adrenal symptoms.----------Jackie

http://www.drrind.com/scorecardmatrix.asp

This link, and others, are in the Links section of the group, under Adrenal

Information, I believe.----------Jackie

DHEA 184 180 - 1300

-----------Like we discussed below, this looks low, and hopefully

supplementing it should help.----------Jackie

Cortisol Total 15

----------This is a blood test, and I'm only familiar with saliva tests, and

without a reference range, doesn't mean much to me. Sorry. Your cortisol level

natural fluctuates during the day, so a one time test doesn't tell much either.

The 4x/day saliva tests are more informative.----------Jackie

--------Did you check out the links I gave below?--------Jackie

Jackie here are the rest of my test.The blood was drawn at like 12:30pm

In frequent-dose-chelation Roland wrote:

I just got my blood work back.My DHEA was 184

Scale is 180 to 1300.I am 43 yr old male.

-----------I have only had this tested by saliva and am female, so can't

compare actual numbers. But, you are very low in the normal range, and most lab

ranges are very wide, so I would consider this low. Did they test any other

hormones, like cortisol, testosterone, etc.?----------Jackie

Is this from low adrenals?

------------Your adrenal glands produce DHEA and cortisol, and some other

hormones, so yes, this can be a sign of low adrenals. MY DHEA and cortisol were

low on my last test from ZRT, and this is what it said, " Chronic low DHEA may

suggest adrenal fatigue, particularly if cortisol is also low and symptoms are

indicative of low adrenal function. " -----------Jackie

Could this be causing my weight loss and joint pain?

------------The links below have symptom checklists (for men and women), and

at the Lee website, it lists weight loss under testosterone deficiency. The

ZRT website lists aches and pains under adrenals. These were under the men's

checklists on both sites. I believe weight loss or unable to gain weight is a

general symptom of low cortisol.

It sounds like you definitely have hormone imbalances, and a saliva hormone

panel of tests might be a good idea. Do some reading at the links

below.-------Jackie

http://www.johnleemd.com/store/resource_hormonetest.html#answer

http://www.zrtlab.com/Page.aspx?hid=463

I am currently taking 75mg of DHEA.Good idea or not?

-----------Yes I think so. DHEA is a precursor to testosterone, so might help

if that is part of the problem. I currently take 50mg of DHEA and pregnenolone.

Pregnenolone is a precursor to many hormones. Not sure if it's prescribed more

for women, or not. Were you taking the 75mg of DHEA before you had the testing

done, or did you start this after the testing?----------Jackie

Roland

[Guest guest]

Yes reviewed it.It does not show anything.

I am almost at my end,not sure were to turn.Can hardly walk now due to feet

pain.Hands and feet both filling with blood.I thought it was mercury,but now I

guess I better be looking for another cause.

Thanks for your reply Jackie.

Re: Roland--Thyroid and Adrenals

Roland, did you get any feedback on your hair test? I have it printed out, but

don't recall if I got around to commenting. Did or Dean look at it?

More below--------Jackie

In frequent-dose-chelation Roland wrote:

T-3 Uptake 31 Range 22.5 -37

T-4 Total 9.0 Range 3.2-12.6

T-4 Free 2.8 Range 1.0 - 4.0

TSH 1.52 0.45 - 4.50

-----------I'm not the thyroid expert, but these don't look too bad. Not

optimal, but not terrible either. They say your Free T3 and T4 should be in the

upper 1/3 to 1/4 of the range, to feel best. You look kind of in the middle. If

you do have hypothyroid symptoms, then you should probably have thyroid

antibodies tested also. TSH doesn't always mean much, especially if you have

mercury poisoning and/or Hashi's (antibodies). High TSH means hypothyroid, low

TSH means hyper. I don't remember what your symptoms are, so here's a link to a

chart that lists thyroid and adrenal symptoms.----------Jackie

http://www.drrind.com/scorecardmatrix.asp

This link, and others, are in the Links section of the group, under Adrenal

Information, I believe.----------Jackie

DHEA 184 180 - 1300

-----------Like we discussed below, this looks low, and hopefully

supplementing it should help.----------Jackie

Cortisol Total 15

----------This is a blood test, and I'm only familiar with saliva tests, and

without a reference range, doesn't mean much to me. Sorry. Your cortisol level

natural fluctuates during the day, so a one time test doesn't tell much either.

The 4x/day saliva tests are more informative.----------Jackie

--------Did you check out the links I gave below?--------Jackie

Jackie here are the rest of my test.The blood was drawn at like 12:30pm

In frequent-dose-chelation Roland wrote:

I just got my blood work back.My DHEA was 184

Scale is 180 to 1300.I am 43 yr old male.

-----------I have only had this tested by saliva and am female, so can't

compare actual numbers. But, you are very low in the normal range, and most lab

ranges are very wide, so I would consider this low. Did they test any other

hormones, like cortisol, testosterone, etc.?----------Jackie

Is this from low adrenals?

------------Your adrenal glands produce DHEA and cortisol, and some other

hormones, so yes, this can be a sign of low adrenals. MY DHEA and cortisol were

low on my last test from ZRT, and this is what it said, " Chronic low DHEA may

suggest adrenal fatigue, particularly if cortisol is also low and symptoms are

indicative of low adrenal function. " -----------Jackie

Could this be causing my weight loss and joint pain?

------------The links below have symptom checklists (for men and women), and

at the Lee website, it lists weight loss under testosterone deficiency. The

ZRT website lists aches and pains under adrenals. These were under the men's

checklists on both sites. I believe weight loss or unable to gain weight is a

general symptom of low cortisol.

It sounds like you definitely have hormone imbalances, and a saliva hormone

panel of tests might be a good idea. Do some reading at the links

below.-------Jackie

http://www.johnleemd.com/store/resource_hormonetest.html#answer

http://www.zrtlab.com/Page.aspx?hid=463

I am currently taking 75mg of DHEA.Good idea or not?

-----------Yes I think so. DHEA is a precursor to testosterone, so might help

if that is part of the problem. I currently take 50mg of DHEA and pregnenolone.

Pregnenolone is a precursor to many hormones. Not sure if it's prescribed more

for women, or not. Were you taking the 75mg of DHEA before you had the testing

done, or did you start this after the testing?----------Jackie

Roland

[Guest guest]

Yes reviewed it.It does not show anything.

I am almost at my end,not sure were to turn.Can hardly walk now due to feet

pain.Hands and feet both filling with blood.I thought it was mercury,but now I

guess I better be looking for another cause.

Thanks for your reply Jackie.

Re: Roland--Thyroid and Adrenals

Roland, did you get any feedback on your hair test? I have it printed out, but

don't recall if I got around to commenting. Did or Dean look at it?

More below--------Jackie

In frequent-dose-chelation Roland wrote:

T-3 Uptake 31 Range 22.5 -37

T-4 Total 9.0 Range 3.2-12.6

T-4 Free 2.8 Range 1.0 - 4.0

TSH 1.52 0.45 - 4.50

-----------I'm not the thyroid expert, but these don't look too bad. Not

optimal, but not terrible either. They say your Free T3 and T4 should be in the

upper 1/3 to 1/4 of the range, to feel best. You look kind of in the middle. If

you do have hypothyroid symptoms, then you should probably have thyroid

antibodies tested also. TSH doesn't always mean much, especially if you have

mercury poisoning and/or Hashi's (antibodies). High TSH means hypothyroid, low

TSH means hyper. I don't remember what your symptoms are, so here's a link to a

chart that lists thyroid and adrenal symptoms.----------Jackie

http://www.drrind.com/scorecardmatrix.asp

This link, and others, are in the Links section of the group, under Adrenal

Information, I believe.----------Jackie

DHEA 184 180 - 1300

-----------Like we discussed below, this looks low, and hopefully

supplementing it should help.----------Jackie

Cortisol Total 15

----------This is a blood test, and I'm only familiar with saliva tests, and

without a reference range, doesn't mean much to me. Sorry. Your cortisol level

natural fluctuates during the day, so a one time test doesn't tell much either.

The 4x/day saliva tests are more informative.----------Jackie

--------Did you check out the links I gave below?--------Jackie

Jackie here are the rest of my test.The blood was drawn at like 12:30pm

In frequent-dose-chelation Roland wrote:

I just got my blood work back.My DHEA was 184

Scale is 180 to 1300.I am 43 yr old male.

-----------I have only had this tested by saliva and am female, so can't

compare actual numbers. But, you are very low in the normal range, and most lab

ranges are very wide, so I would consider this low. Did they test any other

hormones, like cortisol, testosterone, etc.?----------Jackie

Is this from low adrenals?

------------Your adrenal glands produce DHEA and cortisol, and some other

hormones, so yes, this can be a sign of low adrenals. MY DHEA and cortisol were

low on my last test from ZRT, and this is what it said, " Chronic low DHEA may

suggest adrenal fatigue, particularly if cortisol is also low and symptoms are

indicative of low adrenal function. " -----------Jackie

Could this be causing my weight loss and joint pain?

------------The links below have symptom checklists (for men and women), and

at the Lee website, it lists weight loss under testosterone deficiency. The

ZRT website lists aches and pains under adrenals. These were under the men's

checklists on both sites. I believe weight loss or unable to gain weight is a

general symptom of low cortisol.

It sounds like you definitely have hormone imbalances, and a saliva hormone

panel of tests might be a good idea. Do some reading at the links

below.-------Jackie

http://www.johnleemd.com/store/resource_hormonetest.html#answer

http://www.zrtlab.com/Page.aspx?hid=463

I am currently taking 75mg of DHEA.Good idea or not?

-----------Yes I think so. DHEA is a precursor to testosterone, so might help

if that is part of the problem. I currently take 50mg of DHEA and pregnenolone.

Pregnenolone is a precursor to many hormones. Not sure if it's prescribed more

for women, or not. Were you taking the 75mg of DHEA before you had the testing

done, or did you start this after the testing?----------Jackie

Roland

[Guest guest]

Roland,

were you vaccinated? Did you or do you have any metal fillings?

If you answered yes to any or both you should not rule out mercury.

Some people do not meet the counting rules on hair testing but are

still toxic. It depends on how long ago your exposures were. And some

people never show deranged minerals.

In this case, if you know the exposure was there, you can try a French

Porphoryn test to look for mercury. Or you can try doing a trial of

chelation with a low dose of dmsa or ala to see if you find

improvement or see symptoms.

Someone who does not have a mercury problem will notice no effects in

taking ALA. It's a cheap way to see if you do have Hg.

Cq10 is good for circulation and the heart...something to try.

>

> I just got my blood work back.My DHEA was 184

> Scale is 180 to 1300.I am 43 yr old male.

>

> -----------I have only had this tested by saliva and am female, so

can't compare actual numbers. But, you are very low in the normal

range, and most lab ranges are very wide, so I would consider this

low. Did they test any other hormones, like cortisol, testosterone,

etc.?----------Jackie

>

> Is this from low adrenals?

>

> ------------Your adrenal glands produce DHEA and cortisol, and

some other hormones, so yes, this can be a sign of low adrenals. MY

DHEA and cortisol were low on my last test from ZRT, and this is what

it said, " Chronic low DHEA may suggest adrenal fatigue, particularly

if cortisol is also low and symptoms are indicative of low adrenal

function. " -----------Jackie

>

> Could this be causing my weight loss and joint pain?

>

> ------------The links below have symptom checklists (for men and

women), and at the Lee website, it lists weight loss under

testosterone deficiency. The ZRT website lists aches and pains under

adrenals. These were under the men's checklists on both sites. I

believe weight loss or unable to gain weight is a general symptom of

low cortisol.

>

> It sounds like you definitely have hormone imbalances, and a

saliva hormone panel of tests might be a good idea. Do some reading at

the links below.-------Jackie

>

> http://www.johnleemd.com/store/resource_hormonetest.html#answer

>

> http://www.zrtlab.com/Page.aspx?hid=463

>

> I am currently taking 75mg of DHEA.Good idea or not?

>

> -----------Yes I think so. DHEA is a precursor to testosterone, so

might help if that is part of the problem. I currently take 50mg of

DHEA and pregnenolone. Pregnenolone is a precursor to many hormones.

Not sure if it's prescribed more for women, or not. Were you taking

the 75mg of DHEA before you had the testing done, or did you start

this after the testing?----------Jackie

>

> Roland

>

>

[Guest guest]

Roland,

were you vaccinated? Did you or do you have any metal fillings?

If you answered yes to any or both you should not rule out mercury.

Some people do not meet the counting rules on hair testing but are

still toxic. It depends on how long ago your exposures were. And some

people never show deranged minerals.

In this case, if you know the exposure was there, you can try a French

Porphoryn test to look for mercury. Or you can try doing a trial of

chelation with a low dose of dmsa or ala to see if you find

improvement or see symptoms.

Someone who does not have a mercury problem will notice no effects in

taking ALA. It's a cheap way to see if you do have Hg.

Cq10 is good for circulation and the heart...something to try.

>

> I just got my blood work back.My DHEA was 184

> Scale is 180 to 1300.I am 43 yr old male.

>

> -----------I have only had this tested by saliva and am female, so

can't compare actual numbers. But, you are very low in the normal

range, and most lab ranges are very wide, so I would consider this

low. Did they test any other hormones, like cortisol, testosterone,

etc.?----------Jackie

>

> Is this from low adrenals?

>

> ------------Your adrenal glands produce DHEA and cortisol, and

some other hormones, so yes, this can be a sign of low adrenals. MY

DHEA and cortisol were low on my last test from ZRT, and this is what

it said, " Chronic low DHEA may suggest adrenal fatigue, particularly

if cortisol is also low and symptoms are indicative of low adrenal

function. " -----------Jackie

>

> Could this be causing my weight loss and joint pain?

>

> ------------The links below have symptom checklists (for men and

women), and at the Lee website, it lists weight loss under

testosterone deficiency. The ZRT website lists aches and pains under

adrenals. These were under the men's checklists on both sites. I

believe weight loss or unable to gain weight is a general symptom of

low cortisol.

>

> It sounds like you definitely have hormone imbalances, and a

saliva hormone panel of tests might be a good idea. Do some reading at

the links below.-------Jackie

>

> http://www.johnleemd.com/store/resource_hormonetest.html#answer

>

> http://www.zrtlab.com/Page.aspx?hid=463

>

> I am currently taking 75mg of DHEA.Good idea or not?

>

> -----------Yes I think so. DHEA is a precursor to testosterone, so

might help if that is part of the problem. I currently take 50mg of

DHEA and pregnenolone. Pregnenolone is a precursor to many hormones.

Not sure if it's prescribed more for women, or not. Were you taking

the 75mg of DHEA before you had the testing done, or did you start

this after the testing?----------Jackie

>

> Roland

>

>

[Guest guest]

Roland,

were you vaccinated? Did you or do you have any metal fillings?

If you answered yes to any or both you should not rule out mercury.

Some people do not meet the counting rules on hair testing but are

still toxic. It depends on how long ago your exposures were. And some

people never show deranged minerals.

In this case, if you know the exposure was there, you can try a French

Porphoryn test to look for mercury. Or you can try doing a trial of

chelation with a low dose of dmsa or ala to see if you find

improvement or see symptoms.

Someone who does not have a mercury problem will notice no effects in

taking ALA. It's a cheap way to see if you do have Hg.

Cq10 is good for circulation and the heart...something to try.

>

> I just got my blood work back.My DHEA was 184

> Scale is 180 to 1300.I am 43 yr old male.

>

> -----------I have only had this tested by saliva and am female, so

can't compare actual numbers. But, you are very low in the normal

range, and most lab ranges are very wide, so I would consider this

low. Did they test any other hormones, like cortisol, testosterone,

etc.?----------Jackie

>

> Is this from low adrenals?

>

> ------------Your adrenal glands produce DHEA and cortisol, and

some other hormones, so yes, this can be a sign of low adrenals. MY

DHEA and cortisol were low on my last test from ZRT, and this is what

it said, " Chronic low DHEA may suggest adrenal fatigue, particularly

if cortisol is also low and symptoms are indicative of low adrenal

function. " -----------Jackie

>

> Could this be causing my weight loss and joint pain?

>

> ------------The links below have symptom checklists (for men and

women), and at the Lee website, it lists weight loss under

testosterone deficiency. The ZRT website lists aches and pains under

adrenals. These were under the men's checklists on both sites. I

believe weight loss or unable to gain weight is a general symptom of

low cortisol.

>

> It sounds like you definitely have hormone imbalances, and a

saliva hormone panel of tests might be a good idea. Do some reading at

the links below.-------Jackie

>

> http://www.johnleemd.com/store/resource_hormonetest.html#answer

>

> http://www.zrtlab.com/Page.aspx?hid=463

>

> I am currently taking 75mg of DHEA.Good idea or not?

>

> -----------Yes I think so. DHEA is a precursor to testosterone, so

might help if that is part of the problem. I currently take 50mg of

DHEA and pregnenolone. Pregnenolone is a precursor to many hormones.

Not sure if it's prescribed more for women, or not. Were you taking

the 75mg of DHEA before you had the testing done, or did you start

this after the testing?----------Jackie

>

> Roland

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes to both Jada,

I had 15 merc fillings that have all been removed except 4 more and they are

gone next week.

I was vaccinated as a child and was vaccinated not once but twice for Hepititis

b,because the first one " s did not take.

Roland

Re: Roland--Thyroid and Adrenals

Roland,

were you vaccinated? Did you or do you have any metal fillings?

If you answered yes to any or both you should not rule out mercury.

Some people do not meet the counting rules on hair testing but are

still toxic. It depends on how long ago your exposures were. And some

people never show deranged minerals.

In this case, if you know the exposure was there, you can try a French

Porphoryn test to look for mercury. Or you can try doing a trial of

chelation with a low dose of dmsa or ala to see if you find

improvement or see symptoms.

Someone who does not have a mercury problem will notice no effects in

taking ALA. It's a cheap way to see if you do have Hg.

Cq10 is good for circulation and the heart...something to try.

[Guest guest]

Yes to both Jada,

I had 15 merc fillings that have all been removed except 4 more and they are

gone next week.

I was vaccinated as a child and was vaccinated not once but twice for Hepititis

b,because the first one " s did not take.

Roland

Re: Roland--Thyroid and Adrenals

Roland,

were you vaccinated? Did you or do you have any metal fillings?

If you answered yes to any or both you should not rule out mercury.

Some people do not meet the counting rules on hair testing but are

still toxic. It depends on how long ago your exposures were. And some

people never show deranged minerals.

In this case, if you know the exposure was there, you can try a French

Porphoryn test to look for mercury. Or you can try doing a trial of

chelation with a low dose of dmsa or ala to see if you find

improvement or see symptoms.

Someone who does not have a mercury problem will notice no effects in

taking ALA. It's a cheap way to see if you do have Hg.

Cq10 is good for circulation and the heart...something to try.

[Guest guest]

roland,

It's safe to say you have mercury then.

>

> Yes to both Jada,

> I had 15 merc fillings that have all been removed except 4 more and

they are gone next week.

> I was vaccinated as a child and was vaccinated not once but twice

for Hepititis b,because the first one " s did not take.

> Roland

> Re: Roland--Thyroid and Adrenals

>

>

> Roland,

> were you vaccinated? Did you or do you have any metal fillings?

> If you answered yes to any or both you should not rule out mercury.

> Some people do not meet the counting rules on hair testing but are

> still toxic. It depends on how long ago your exposures were. And some

> people never show deranged minerals.

> In this case, if you know the exposure was there, you can try a French

> Porphoryn test to look for mercury. Or you can try doing a trial of

> chelation with a low dose of dmsa or ala to see if you find

> improvement or see symptoms.

> Someone who does not have a mercury problem will notice no effects in

> taking ALA. It's a cheap way to see if you do have Hg.

>

> Cq10 is good for circulation and the heart...something to try.

>

[Guest guest]

roland,

It's safe to say you have mercury then.

>

> Yes to both Jada,

> I had 15 merc fillings that have all been removed except 4 more and

they are gone next week.

> I was vaccinated as a child and was vaccinated not once but twice

for Hepititis b,because the first one " s did not take.

> Roland

> Re: Roland--Thyroid and Adrenals

>

>

> Roland,

> were you vaccinated? Did you or do you have any metal fillings?

> If you answered yes to any or both you should not rule out mercury.

> Some people do not meet the counting rules on hair testing but are

> still toxic. It depends on how long ago your exposures were. And some

> people never show deranged minerals.

> In this case, if you know the exposure was there, you can try a French

> Porphoryn test to look for mercury. Or you can try doing a trial of

> chelation with a low dose of dmsa or ala to see if you find

> improvement or see symptoms.

> Someone who does not have a mercury problem will notice no effects in

> taking ALA. It's a cheap way to see if you do have Hg.

>

> Cq10 is good for circulation and the heart...something to try.

>