Guest guest Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 I don't know the answer to all your questions, but if exercising is making you feel better, then I would keep doing it. You didn't say how long you chelated before taking a break, but possibly it was enough to lower your body burden so that exercise doesn't release too much mercury for you to handle. I would caution you to proceed slowly though, so that you do not over-do-it and crash. And I would think that too rapid of weight loss could release too much toxins, so keep that in mind also.----------Jackie In frequent-dose-chelation beestherbub wrote: hi all - been a while since i've posted. been taking a break from chelation - i started again with DMSA last week and strangely i was angry all day at every little thing. this is not a symptom i've had before with chelation. my poor husband. it might have just been a bad day but about 3-4 hrs after my last dose the anger went away and nothing bugged me anymore. this would correspond to the decrease of dmsa in my system. wierd. this is my question. is it advisable to try to lose weight while chelating? if merc has an affinity to fat cells wouldn't losing fat mobilize merc? or perhaps it is ok cause the body is flushing out the fat and the merc goes with it? does your liver process fat being flushed from the body and if so would this put merc into the liver again? i'm curious. i started back on an exercise program and eating plan but my mother is really worried that i'm going to be hurting myself again and doesn't think i should as she thinks i've got a lot of merc stored in my fat. i am not sure if this is an erroneous conclusion or if i should be worried. i definitely feel better when i get some exercise and eat right and ive lost some pounds already and feel fine (except for that chelation round where i was really angry that i mentioned above.) esther Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 I don't know the answer to all your questions, but if exercising is making you feel better, then I would keep doing it. You didn't say how long you chelated before taking a break, but possibly it was enough to lower your body burden so that exercise doesn't release too much mercury for you to handle. I would caution you to proceed slowly though, so that you do not over-do-it and crash. And I would think that too rapid of weight loss could release too much toxins, so keep that in mind also.----------Jackie In frequent-dose-chelation beestherbub wrote: hi all - been a while since i've posted. been taking a break from chelation - i started again with DMSA last week and strangely i was angry all day at every little thing. this is not a symptom i've had before with chelation. my poor husband. it might have just been a bad day but about 3-4 hrs after my last dose the anger went away and nothing bugged me anymore. this would correspond to the decrease of dmsa in my system. wierd. this is my question. is it advisable to try to lose weight while chelating? if merc has an affinity to fat cells wouldn't losing fat mobilize merc? or perhaps it is ok cause the body is flushing out the fat and the merc goes with it? does your liver process fat being flushed from the body and if so would this put merc into the liver again? i'm curious. i started back on an exercise program and eating plan but my mother is really worried that i'm going to be hurting myself again and doesn't think i should as she thinks i've got a lot of merc stored in my fat. i am not sure if this is an erroneous conclusion or if i should be worried. i definitely feel better when i get some exercise and eat right and ive lost some pounds already and feel fine (except for that chelation round where i was really angry that i mentioned above.) esther Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 Don't know the answer either, but I had wondered about this as well. Figured that the fat being burned would release what ever toxins were in them. In fact I had wondered if perhaps the release of mercury was somehow related to the Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness (DOMS) that I and others get after not exercising for a while. They used to think that it was due to release of lactic acid, but they don't think that's the case. They seem to think that it's inflamation of connective tissue. This has me wondering if it was mercury in the connective tissue that gets released when exercising. DOMS ususally are the pain you get 2 days or so after exercising. Especially when you do a new exercise, haven't exercised for a long time or do eccentric stress movements on the muscles. Wonder if Andy has any thoughts on this. Thanks, Mike > > I don't know the answer to all your questions, but if exercising is making you feel better, then I would keep doing it. You didn't say how long you chelated before taking a break, but possibly it was enough to lower your body burden so that exercise doesn't release too much mercury for you to handle. I would caution you to proceed slowly though, so that you do not over-do-it and crash. And I would think that too rapid of weight loss could release too much toxins, so keep that in mind also.----------Jackie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 Don't know the answer either, but I had wondered about this as well. Figured that the fat being burned would release what ever toxins were in them. In fact I had wondered if perhaps the release of mercury was somehow related to the Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness (DOMS) that I and others get after not exercising for a while. They used to think that it was due to release of lactic acid, but they don't think that's the case. They seem to think that it's inflamation of connective tissue. This has me wondering if it was mercury in the connective tissue that gets released when exercising. DOMS ususally are the pain you get 2 days or so after exercising. Especially when you do a new exercise, haven't exercised for a long time or do eccentric stress movements on the muscles. Wonder if Andy has any thoughts on this. Thanks, Mike > > I don't know the answer to all your questions, but if exercising is making you feel better, then I would keep doing it. You didn't say how long you chelated before taking a break, but possibly it was enough to lower your body burden so that exercise doesn't release too much mercury for you to handle. I would caution you to proceed slowly though, so that you do not over-do-it and crash. And I would think that too rapid of weight loss could release too much toxins, so keep that in mind also.----------Jackie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 My track coach in high school back in 1961 said the same thing. When we begin a new track season and we have not been working out, we can expect muscle soreness for about 3 days. The cause is supposed to be anaerobic exercise. The muscles being worked at a very high rate cannot get enough oxygen via the bloodstream to maintain their energy conversion. So the muscles go into an anerobic mode that produces lactic acid. (This is also thought to be a chelator. It relates to people with mercury exposure who don't show any symptoms. Heavy physical activity helps rid the body of mercury.) If we didn't do anything we could expect about 3 days for the soreness to go away. If we simply ate some bananas it would go away in about 1 day. The theory was that the anaerobic exercise was using a lot of potassium. Bananas are high in potassium and replace what is used. It worked for me then and still does. If you start some new physical activity using a new group of muscles you can expect about 3 days of soreness as these muscles get toned and functioning. If you eat a banana or two it will only be about 1 day of soreness. K. --- mle_ii mle_ii@...> wrote: > Don't know the answer either, but I had wondered > about this as well. > Figured that the fat being burned would release what > ever toxins were > in them. In fact I had wondered if perhaps the > release of mercury was > somehow related to the Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness > (DOMS) that I and > others get after not exercising for a while. They > used to think that > it was due to release of lactic acid, but they don't > think that's the > case. They seem to think that it's inflamation of > connective tissue. > This has me wondering if it was mercury in the > connective tissue that > gets released when exercising. > > DOMS ususally are the pain you get 2 days or so > after exercising. > Especially when you do a new exercise, haven't > exercised for a long > time or do eccentric stress movements on the > muscles. > > Wonder if Andy has any thoughts on this. > > Thanks, > Mike > > > > > > I don't know the answer to all your questions, but > if exercising is > making you feel better, then I would keep doing it. > You didn't say how > long you chelated before taking a break, but > possibly it was enough to > lower your body burden so that exercise doesn't > release too much > mercury for you to handle. I would caution you to > proceed slowly > though, so that you do not over-do-it and crash. > And I would think > that too rapid of weight loss could release too much > toxins, so keep > that in mind also.----------Jackie > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 My track coach in high school back in 1961 said the same thing. When we begin a new track season and we have not been working out, we can expect muscle soreness for about 3 days. The cause is supposed to be anaerobic exercise. The muscles being worked at a very high rate cannot get enough oxygen via the bloodstream to maintain their energy conversion. So the muscles go into an anerobic mode that produces lactic acid. (This is also thought to be a chelator. It relates to people with mercury exposure who don't show any symptoms. Heavy physical activity helps rid the body of mercury.) If we didn't do anything we could expect about 3 days for the soreness to go away. If we simply ate some bananas it would go away in about 1 day. The theory was that the anaerobic exercise was using a lot of potassium. Bananas are high in potassium and replace what is used. It worked for me then and still does. If you start some new physical activity using a new group of muscles you can expect about 3 days of soreness as these muscles get toned and functioning. If you eat a banana or two it will only be about 1 day of soreness. K. --- mle_ii mle_ii@...> wrote: > Don't know the answer either, but I had wondered > about this as well. > Figured that the fat being burned would release what > ever toxins were > in them. In fact I had wondered if perhaps the > release of mercury was > somehow related to the Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness > (DOMS) that I and > others get after not exercising for a while. They > used to think that > it was due to release of lactic acid, but they don't > think that's the > case. They seem to think that it's inflamation of > connective tissue. > This has me wondering if it was mercury in the > connective tissue that > gets released when exercising. > > DOMS ususally are the pain you get 2 days or so > after exercising. > Especially when you do a new exercise, haven't > exercised for a long > time or do eccentric stress movements on the > muscles. > > Wonder if Andy has any thoughts on this. > > Thanks, > Mike > > > > > > I don't know the answer to all your questions, but > if exercising is > making you feel better, then I would keep doing it. > You didn't say how > long you chelated before taking a break, but > possibly it was enough to > lower your body burden so that exercise doesn't > release too much > mercury for you to handle. I would caution you to > proceed slowly > though, so that you do not over-do-it and crash. > And I would think > that too rapid of weight loss could release too much > toxins, so keep > that in mind also.----------Jackie > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 > > I am also wondering if losing weight makes mercury worse. > > I lost 100+ lbs in the past year and seem to have gotten a lot worse... > > Does it cause redistribution? > Others have reported increased symptoms with weight loss. I think it would be from the mercury in the fat cells finding some other place to go and settle in (redistribution). If a person chelated during the weight loss it wouldn't happen as much. How did you lose so much weight? (I have gained and need to think about losing) J > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 In frequent-dose-chelation richard_furr2000 wrote: I am also wondering if losing weight makes mercury worse. I lost 100+ lbs in the past year and seem to have gotten a lot worse... Does it cause redistribution? -----------I have no proof, but in theory this certainly makes sense that losing alot of weight would release alot of toxins, and could be more than your body can handle or eliminate, so then it would cause redistribution, which would make you feel worse. Of course this would vary by person and how much body burden of mercury and other toxins they have. Have you been chelating during this time of weight loss? How long ago did you get your amalgams removed?---------Jackie > > hi all - been a while since i've posted. been taking a break from > chelation - i started again with DMSA last week and strangely i was > angry all day at every little thing. this is not a symptom i've had > before with chelation. my poor husband. it might have just been a bad > day but about 3-4 hrs after my last dose the anger went away and > nothing bugged me anymore. this would correspond to the decrease of > dmsa in my system. wierd. > > this is my question. is it advisable to try to lose weight while > chelating? if merc has an affinity to fat cells wouldn't losing fat > mobilize merc? or perhaps it is ok cause the body is flushing out the > fat and the merc goes with it? does your liver process fat being > flushed from the body and if so would this put merc into the liver > again? > > i'm curious. i started back on an exercise program and eating plan > but my mother is really worried that i'm going to be hurting myself > again and doesn't think i should as she thinks i've got a lot of merc > stored in my fat. i am not sure if this is an erroneous conclusion or > if i should be worried. i definitely feel better when i get some > exercise and eat right and ive lost some pounds already and feel fine > (except for that chelation round where i was really angry that i > mentioned above.) > > esther ,_.___ Messages in this topic (8) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages MARKETPLACE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Earn your degree in as few as 2 years - Advance your career with an AS, BS, MS degree - College-Finder.net. Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Recent Activity a.. 12New Members Visit Your Group Yahoo! Health Live Better Longer Find new ways to stay healthy. FruitaBü Parents Healthy Eating Zone A parenting resource on Yahoo! Groups. Yahoo! Groups Dog Zone Connect w/others who love dogs. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 In frequent-dose-chelation richard_furr2000 wrote: I am also wondering if losing weight makes mercury worse. I lost 100+ lbs in the past year and seem to have gotten a lot worse... Does it cause redistribution? -----------I have no proof, but in theory this certainly makes sense that losing alot of weight would release alot of toxins, and could be more than your body can handle or eliminate, so then it would cause redistribution, which would make you feel worse. Of course this would vary by person and how much body burden of mercury and other toxins they have. Have you been chelating during this time of weight loss? How long ago did you get your amalgams removed?---------Jackie > > hi all - been a while since i've posted. been taking a break from > chelation - i started again with DMSA last week and strangely i was > angry all day at every little thing. this is not a symptom i've had > before with chelation. my poor husband. it might have just been a bad > day but about 3-4 hrs after my last dose the anger went away and > nothing bugged me anymore. this would correspond to the decrease of > dmsa in my system. wierd. > > this is my question. is it advisable to try to lose weight while > chelating? if merc has an affinity to fat cells wouldn't losing fat > mobilize merc? or perhaps it is ok cause the body is flushing out the > fat and the merc goes with it? does your liver process fat being > flushed from the body and if so would this put merc into the liver > again? > > i'm curious. i started back on an exercise program and eating plan > but my mother is really worried that i'm going to be hurting myself > again and doesn't think i should as she thinks i've got a lot of merc > stored in my fat. i am not sure if this is an erroneous conclusion or > if i should be worried. i definitely feel better when i get some > exercise and eat right and ive lost some pounds already and feel fine > (except for that chelation round where i was really angry that i > mentioned above.) > > esther ,_.___ Messages in this topic (8) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages MARKETPLACE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Earn your degree in as few as 2 years - Advance your career with an AS, BS, MS degree - College-Finder.net. Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Recent Activity a.. 12New Members Visit Your Group Yahoo! Health Live Better Longer Find new ways to stay healthy. FruitaBü Parents Healthy Eating Zone A parenting resource on Yahoo! Groups. Yahoo! Groups Dog Zone Connect w/others who love dogs. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 > How did you lose so much weight? (I have gained and need to think > about losing) RF: I ate(and still do) pretty much perfect paleolithic diet. No grains, beans, potatoes, sugars. Just meat, fruit, non starchy vegetables, nuts. google " paleo diet " for more info. There are many different variations amd theories on proper ratios. I also exercised daily at a fairly intense pace on an elliptical machine. The weight just falls off. I lost the 100lbs in a less than 6 month period. > > > > I am also wondering if losing weight makes mercury worse. > > > > I lost 100+ lbs in the past year and seem to have gotten a lot worse... > > > > Does it cause redistribution? > > > > > Others have reported increased symptoms with weight loss. I think it > would be from the mercury in the fat cells finding some other place to > go and settle in (redistribution). If a person chelated during the > weight loss it wouldn't happen as much. > > How did you lose so much weight? (I have gained and need to think > about losing) > > J > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 > How did you lose so much weight? (I have gained and need to think > about losing) RF: I ate(and still do) pretty much perfect paleolithic diet. No grains, beans, potatoes, sugars. Just meat, fruit, non starchy vegetables, nuts. google " paleo diet " for more info. There are many different variations amd theories on proper ratios. I also exercised daily at a fairly intense pace on an elliptical machine. The weight just falls off. I lost the 100lbs in a less than 6 month period. > > > > I am also wondering if losing weight makes mercury worse. > > > > I lost 100+ lbs in the past year and seem to have gotten a lot worse... > > > > Does it cause redistribution? > > > > > Others have reported increased symptoms with weight loss. I think it > would be from the mercury in the fat cells finding some other place to > go and settle in (redistribution). If a person chelated during the > weight loss it wouldn't happen as much. > > How did you lose so much weight? (I have gained and need to think > about losing) > > J > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 > How did you lose so much weight? (I have gained and need to think > about losing) RF: I ate(and still do) pretty much perfect paleolithic diet. No grains, beans, potatoes, sugars. Just meat, fruit, non starchy vegetables, nuts. google " paleo diet " for more info. There are many different variations amd theories on proper ratios. I also exercised daily at a fairly intense pace on an elliptical machine. The weight just falls off. I lost the 100lbs in a less than 6 month period. > > > > I am also wondering if losing weight makes mercury worse. > > > > I lost 100+ lbs in the past year and seem to have gotten a lot worse... > > > > Does it cause redistribution? > > > > > Others have reported increased symptoms with weight loss. I think it > would be from the mercury in the fat cells finding some other place to > go and settle in (redistribution). If a person chelated during the > weight loss it wouldn't happen as much. > > How did you lose so much weight? (I have gained and need to think > about losing) > > J > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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