Re: phase 1-phase 2 issues/questions-and related MCS

[Guest guest]

>

> Background

> I had the liver metabolism tests done and yes I have fast phase 1

> slow phase 2, just like AI summarizes. So my question is

>

> A) I have quite severe MCS which has I think become more pronounced

> this last year by taking chorella/cilantro BUT in retrospect I feel

> many of my particular problems seem to have been aggravated by being

> more exposed to fumes in our downtown San Francisco for the last 2-10

> years.

>

> My question is this, do phase 1-phase 2 problems become more

> problematic DUE to mercury/heavy metals being stirred up? OR

Yes.

> Are the phase 1-phase 2 problems more just our genetic makeup that

> weaken our liver to be able to deal with the heavy metals?

Doesn't matter - you need to treat yourself the same way regardless,

by reducing exposure, addressing symptoms, and detoxing the toxins.

> I realize this is like a chicken or the egg question ie which problem

> comes first, or maybe the two problems play off each other

>

>

> B)does this liver problem (hence MCS) lessen as we chelate and get

> the heavy metals out. I guess this is my " hope-springs-eternal "

> question...

If there was a time when you did not have MCS, then you may be

able to get back there.

> THE AI protocol of niacinamide,grapefruit juice and selenium has

> helped a lot

>

> I saw Dean's post the other day, which was very informative. I am

> trying the licorice supplement mentioned.

Licorice speeds up phase 1, according to Andy. This is consistent

with my experience.

> I also have had bad reactions to the DHEA (taking for low DHEA-

> adrenals) which AI says phase 1-phase 2 can cause and have tried

> epsom salts (orally) but this does not seem to help

I don't think a one-time dose of epsom salt would do you any good -

you need to replace your body's supply of sulfate. You will get

farther faster with epsom salt baths and/or cream. Molybdenum can

help, too.

I use a transdermal of DHEA - works much better for me than oral.

May or may not help you, but worth a try.

--

> Thanks

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Background

> I had the liver metabolism tests done and yes I have fast phase 1

> slow phase 2, just like AI summarizes. So my question is

>

> A) I have quite severe MCS which has I think become more pronounced

> this last year by taking chorella/cilantro BUT in retrospect I feel

> many of my particular problems seem to have been aggravated by being

> more exposed to fumes in our downtown San Francisco for the last 2-10

> years.

>

> My question is this, do phase 1-phase 2 problems become more

> problematic DUE to mercury/heavy metals being stirred up? OR

Yes.

> Are the phase 1-phase 2 problems more just our genetic makeup that

> weaken our liver to be able to deal with the heavy metals?

Doesn't matter - you need to treat yourself the same way regardless,

by reducing exposure, addressing symptoms, and detoxing the toxins.

> I realize this is like a chicken or the egg question ie which problem

> comes first, or maybe the two problems play off each other

>

>

> B)does this liver problem (hence MCS) lessen as we chelate and get

> the heavy metals out. I guess this is my " hope-springs-eternal "

> question...

If there was a time when you did not have MCS, then you may be

able to get back there.

> THE AI protocol of niacinamide,grapefruit juice and selenium has

> helped a lot

>

> I saw Dean's post the other day, which was very informative. I am

> trying the licorice supplement mentioned.

Licorice speeds up phase 1, according to Andy. This is consistent

with my experience.

> I also have had bad reactions to the DHEA (taking for low DHEA-

> adrenals) which AI says phase 1-phase 2 can cause and have tried

> epsom salts (orally) but this does not seem to help

I don't think a one-time dose of epsom salt would do you any good -

you need to replace your body's supply of sulfate. You will get

farther faster with epsom salt baths and/or cream. Molybdenum can

help, too.

I use a transdermal of DHEA - works much better for me than oral.

May or may not help you, but worth a try.

--

> Thanks

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Background

> I had the liver metabolism tests done and yes I have fast phase 1

> slow phase 2, just like AI summarizes. So my question is

>

> A) I have quite severe MCS which has I think become more pronounced

> this last year by taking chorella/cilantro BUT in retrospect I feel

> many of my particular problems seem to have been aggravated by being

> more exposed to fumes in our downtown San Francisco for the last 2-10

> years.

>

> My question is this, do phase 1-phase 2 problems become more

> problematic DUE to mercury/heavy metals being stirred up? OR

Yes.

> Are the phase 1-phase 2 problems more just our genetic makeup that

> weaken our liver to be able to deal with the heavy metals?

Doesn't matter - you need to treat yourself the same way regardless,

by reducing exposure, addressing symptoms, and detoxing the toxins.

> I realize this is like a chicken or the egg question ie which problem

> comes first, or maybe the two problems play off each other

>

>

> B)does this liver problem (hence MCS) lessen as we chelate and get

> the heavy metals out. I guess this is my " hope-springs-eternal "

> question...

If there was a time when you did not have MCS, then you may be

able to get back there.

> THE AI protocol of niacinamide,grapefruit juice and selenium has

> helped a lot

>

> I saw Dean's post the other day, which was very informative. I am

> trying the licorice supplement mentioned.

Licorice speeds up phase 1, according to Andy. This is consistent

with my experience.

> I also have had bad reactions to the DHEA (taking for low DHEA-

> adrenals) which AI says phase 1-phase 2 can cause and have tried

> epsom salts (orally) but this does not seem to help

I don't think a one-time dose of epsom salt would do you any good -

you need to replace your body's supply of sulfate. You will get

farther faster with epsom salt baths and/or cream. Molybdenum can

help, too.

I use a transdermal of DHEA - works much better for me than oral.

May or may not help you, but worth a try.

--

> Thanks

>

>

[Guest guest]

What form of licorice would that be?

Mark

[Guest guest]

What form of licorice would that be?

Mark

[Guest guest]

>

> What form of licorice would that be?

> Mark

>

I think was referring to DGL (deglycyrrhizinated licorice)

for digestive problems. This might be okay with MCS, I'm not sure.

The glycyrrhizin is removed and perhaps that is the component that

speeds up phase 1.

Regular licorice (hard licorice candy, or sold as an herbal product)

can speed up phase 1 and cause more problems for people with MCS.

At least that is my experience and Andy includes it in his list of

things that speed up phase 1.

--

[Guest guest]

yes your are correct . That is the licorice (DGL type) I had

been using, but I stopped based upon 's earlier post.

Interestingly enough I did show on the bioenergetic pulse testing

that i have done that this dgl licorice was being well received by my

body...BUT then thee same tests also showed that cilantro was a

benefit and I know that cilantro totally messed my head up to where I

could hardly function.

I have found that large doses of fish/flax oil along with what Andy

recommends for mcs has (I think) helped compensate for the fast phase

1-slow phase 2 issues. These supplemnts for MCS are niacinamide,

grapefruit juice and selenium (the kind that is in AI...sorry its a

monster to spell)

--

I think was referring to DGL (deglycyrrhizinated licorice)

for digestive problems. This might be okay with MCS, I'm not sure.

The glycyrrhizin is removed and perhaps that is the component that

speeds up phase 1.

Regular licorice (hard licorice candy, or sold as an herbal product)

can speed up phase 1 and cause more problems for people with MCS.

At least that is my experience and Andy includes it in his list of

things that speed up phase 1.

--

[Guest guest]

yes your are correct . That is the licorice (DGL type) I had

been using, but I stopped based upon 's earlier post.

Interestingly enough I did show on the bioenergetic pulse testing

that i have done that this dgl licorice was being well received by my

body...BUT then thee same tests also showed that cilantro was a

benefit and I know that cilantro totally messed my head up to where I

could hardly function.

I have found that large doses of fish/flax oil along with what Andy

recommends for mcs has (I think) helped compensate for the fast phase

1-slow phase 2 issues. These supplemnts for MCS are niacinamide,

grapefruit juice and selenium (the kind that is in AI...sorry its a

monster to spell)

--

I think was referring to DGL (deglycyrrhizinated licorice)

for digestive problems. This might be okay with MCS, I'm not sure.

The glycyrrhizin is removed and perhaps that is the component that

speeds up phase 1.

Regular licorice (hard licorice candy, or sold as an herbal product)

can speed up phase 1 and cause more problems for people with MCS.

At least that is my experience and Andy includes it in his list of

things that speed up phase 1.

--

[Guest guest]

>

> Interestingly enough I did show on the bioenergetic pulse testing

> that i have done that this dgl licorice was being well received by my

> body...BUT then thee same tests also showed that cilantro was a

> benefit and I know that cilantro totally messed my head up to where I

> could hardly function.

If bioenergetic pulse testing is anything like muscle testing,

keep in mind that it only tests the direct effects of the substance

on the body, not the downstream effects it may have on things like

liver metabolism, gut dysbiosis, mercury mobilization, etc. In other

words, it might trigger a chain of events that causes problems, but

the test cannot " look ahead " down this chain of events, it can only

see the first effect in the causal chain.

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[Guest guest]

>

> Interestingly enough I did show on the bioenergetic pulse testing

> that i have done that this dgl licorice was being well received by my

> body...BUT then thee same tests also showed that cilantro was a

> benefit and I know that cilantro totally messed my head up to where I

> could hardly function.

If bioenergetic pulse testing is anything like muscle testing,

keep in mind that it only tests the direct effects of the substance

on the body, not the downstream effects it may have on things like

liver metabolism, gut dysbiosis, mercury mobilization, etc. In other

words, it might trigger a chain of events that causes problems, but

the test cannot " look ahead " down this chain of events, it can only

see the first effect in the causal chain.

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