Guest guest Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 In frequent-dose-chelation topbrokersf wrote: question so I know in the chemical world there are many things that you can take to offset/counter balance excess minerals..ie does anything mop up sulphur... ie Copper..AI has a whole section on what to do for this to cut the levels So is there anything to minimize levels of sulphur?? and would this be a viable treatment program? ---------Not that I'm aware of, and if there were supplements to take that could help, Andy would know. So my understanding is the only thing to do is to avoid/minimize intake of sulfury (high thiol) foods and supplements.---------Jackie Question 2 so it appears ALA is sulphur based from recent questions, Is this so?? -----------All the chelators are sulfury, or have thiols. The true chelators, ALA, DMSA, and DMPS, all have double thiols. That's what sets them apart from the foods/supps that have single thiols. The double thiols hang onto the mercury much tighter, and that's why they are much more effective chelators. Read page 199 of AI. The first paragraph in the second column is one of the most important parts of the book and one of the most important things to understand about safe chelation, IMO. I didn't get alot of the other stuff when I first started, but that was a nugget I grabbed onto. That and the fact that the chelators have to be dosed on their half-lives are probably two of the most important things to understand about Andy's protocol, IMO.---Jackie That might partly explain why i had the bad reaction Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 > > question > so I know in the chemical world there are many things that you can take > to offset/counter balance excess minerals..ie does anything mop up > sulphur... > > ie Copper..AI has a whole section on what to do for this to cut the > levels > > So is there anything to minimize levels of sulphur?? and would this be > a viable treatment program? If you want your sulfur levels to go down, don't eat any or take any in supplements. Eventually levels will go down, but I think you have to be very strict and avoid it for awhile. Do I remember one of your posts recently when you mentioned a green drink? These are usually sulfury. Probably good to check your diet against the various lists and make sure you aren't getting any. -- > Question 2 > so it appears ALA is sulphur based from recent questions, Is this so?? > That might partly explain why i had the bad reaction > > Thanks > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 - the first question here is, are you high in sulfur? Remember, you need it to function. Indeed, if you are low, then consuming more can help. So don't restrict it unless you have figured out that you are high. Now, that said, all you have to do is go on a low sulfur diet, and in a short time the amount in your blood will decrease. (I gather this is a kidney issue - some of us retain whereas some of us excrete more sulfur, or so I've taken it from Andy.) As for ALA, of course it is sulfur based. It is sulfur based things that bind tightly to mercury. The difference between it and most of the sulfur in your body is that it is a di-thiol (two S-H groups on the same molecule) rather than a mono-thiol. That's what makes it a chelator. You want it in order to chelate, but you need to use it properly, on the right schedule. Perhaps there is one element of confusion here. According to something Andy said off-hand at one point on the AM list, my understanding is that taking ALA for an extended period of time significantly increases sulfur (ie mono-thiols) in the body. This is how he explained the increase in side effects as we get later and later into an ALA chelation round. Why this should be, I don't know because I don't know the biochemistry of sulfur metabolism well enough. Now, as far as your bad reaction goes, I tried to describe what you had done wrong in an earlier post. I hoped that helped. What you need to do now is not decrease sulfur in your body (though that is something you should do as a general matter if you have determined that you are high in sulfur), but take a lot-lot of anti-oxidants. Dave. --------------------------- Posted by: " topbrokersf " topbrokersf@... topbrokersf@...?Subject=%20Re%3Awhat%20can%20you%20do%20to%20cut%2\ 0your%20body%20stores%20of%20sulphur> topbrokersf http://profiles.yahoo.com/topbrokersf> Fri Mar 7, 2008 11:58 am (PST) question so I know in the chemical world there are many things that you can take to offset/counter balance excess minerals..ie does anything mop up sulphur... ie Copper..AI has a whole section on what to do for this to cut the levels So is there anything to minimize levels of sulphur?? and would this be a viable treatment program? Question 2 so it appears ALA is sulphur based from recent questions, Is this so?? That might partly explain why i had the bad reaction Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 - the first question here is, are you high in sulfur? Remember, you need it to function. Indeed, if you are low, then consuming more can help. So don't restrict it unless you have figured out that you are high. Now, that said, all you have to do is go on a low sulfur diet, and in a short time the amount in your blood will decrease. (I gather this is a kidney issue - some of us retain whereas some of us excrete more sulfur, or so I've taken it from Andy.) As for ALA, of course it is sulfur based. It is sulfur based things that bind tightly to mercury. The difference between it and most of the sulfur in your body is that it is a di-thiol (two S-H groups on the same molecule) rather than a mono-thiol. That's what makes it a chelator. You want it in order to chelate, but you need to use it properly, on the right schedule. Perhaps there is one element of confusion here. According to something Andy said off-hand at one point on the AM list, my understanding is that taking ALA for an extended period of time significantly increases sulfur (ie mono-thiols) in the body. This is how he explained the increase in side effects as we get later and later into an ALA chelation round. Why this should be, I don't know because I don't know the biochemistry of sulfur metabolism well enough. Now, as far as your bad reaction goes, I tried to describe what you had done wrong in an earlier post. I hoped that helped. What you need to do now is not decrease sulfur in your body (though that is something you should do as a general matter if you have determined that you are high in sulfur), but take a lot-lot of anti-oxidants. Dave. --------------------------- Posted by: " topbrokersf " topbrokersf@... topbrokersf@...?Subject=%20Re%3Awhat%20can%20you%20do%20to%20cut%2\ 0your%20body%20stores%20of%20sulphur> topbrokersf http://profiles.yahoo.com/topbrokersf> Fri Mar 7, 2008 11:58 am (PST) question so I know in the chemical world there are many things that you can take to offset/counter balance excess minerals..ie does anything mop up sulphur... ie Copper..AI has a whole section on what to do for this to cut the levels So is there anything to minimize levels of sulphur?? and would this be a viable treatment program? Question 2 so it appears ALA is sulphur based from recent questions, Is this so?? That might partly explain why i had the bad reaction Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 - the first question here is, are you high in sulfur? Remember, you need it to function. Indeed, if you are low, then consuming more can help. So don't restrict it unless you have figured out that you are high. Now, that said, all you have to do is go on a low sulfur diet, and in a short time the amount in your blood will decrease. (I gather this is a kidney issue - some of us retain whereas some of us excrete more sulfur, or so I've taken it from Andy.) As for ALA, of course it is sulfur based. It is sulfur based things that bind tightly to mercury. The difference between it and most of the sulfur in your body is that it is a di-thiol (two S-H groups on the same molecule) rather than a mono-thiol. That's what makes it a chelator. You want it in order to chelate, but you need to use it properly, on the right schedule. Perhaps there is one element of confusion here. According to something Andy said off-hand at one point on the AM list, my understanding is that taking ALA for an extended period of time significantly increases sulfur (ie mono-thiols) in the body. This is how he explained the increase in side effects as we get later and later into an ALA chelation round. Why this should be, I don't know because I don't know the biochemistry of sulfur metabolism well enough. Now, as far as your bad reaction goes, I tried to describe what you had done wrong in an earlier post. I hoped that helped. What you need to do now is not decrease sulfur in your body (though that is something you should do as a general matter if you have determined that you are high in sulfur), but take a lot-lot of anti-oxidants. Dave. --------------------------- Posted by: " topbrokersf " topbrokersf@... topbrokersf@...?Subject=%20Re%3Awhat%20can%20you%20do%20to%20cut%2\ 0your%20body%20stores%20of%20sulphur> topbrokersf http://profiles.yahoo.com/topbrokersf> Fri Mar 7, 2008 11:58 am (PST) question so I know in the chemical world there are many things that you can take to offset/counter balance excess minerals..ie does anything mop up sulphur... ie Copper..AI has a whole section on what to do for this to cut the levels So is there anything to minimize levels of sulphur?? and would this be a viable treatment program? Question 2 so it appears ALA is sulphur based from recent questions, Is this so?? That might partly explain why i had the bad reaction Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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