-- LEM, was Re: Which multi-vitamin/mineral (if any) are people using?

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In frequent-dose-chelation wrote:

> I take most vits and mins individually. I also take a multi mineral

> supp and some Life Extension Mix, too. I got the LEM for my husband.

> He was so confused by having several bottles of supplements and could

> never remember how much to take, so he loves the LEM!

>

> ----------, or anyone who uses LEM. Is this the product

you are talking about? I didn't look at all the others, but someone

showed me this one, who may be sulfur sensitive, and I noticed it

contains NAC and broccoli. So I'm just curious if anyone has used it

and noticed if it's enough to make a difference. The NAC worries me,

because it was 600mg.----------Jackie

>

> http://www.lef.org/newshop/items/item01246.html

Jackie,

That's a good point and I wasn't thinking about the NAC and other

sulfury stuff, particularly for my husband. He has never done sulfur

exclusion, and judging from his spontaneous avoidance of many sulfur

foods he might be high cysteine. The trouble is it is hard to get

him to take supplements if there are multiple bottles of stuff to

juggle. I will have to get him to try sulfur exclusion to clarify

his sulfur status, or find another multi for him. Thanks for pointing

this out.

---------Yes, the convenience of a good multi would be great, and the person

pointed out the broccoli to me, asking if this would be too much sulfur, and

then when I looked, I noticed the NAC too. This concerned me more, because I am

normal cysteine, eat sulfur foods, but when I have tried NAC or MSM, I have had

reactions to them. Andy has said that is common/normal, to react more strongly

to the supps than to food. So, if this would have only had the broccoli, I was

going to tell him to try it, but with the NAC too, I am more leary of

it.-------Jackie

I consider myself normal cysteine since I don't seem to fit either

of the extremes, and I only take about 1/3 the daily dose of the LEM.

I'm not aware of it being a problem (but it wouldn't be the first

time that I'm not aware of something that's a problem). In any case,

if I stop using it for him, I won't bother getting it just for me.

--------Has your husband been taking the LEM? For how long? Does he take a

full dose? Has he noticed anything? Maybe he can tolerate it?

It's too bad the sulfury stuff is in there, because this sounds like a good

product otherwise. But it should be fine for some people.---------Jackie

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In frequent-dose-chelation wrote:

> I take most vits and mins individually. I also take a multi mineral

> supp and some Life Extension Mix, too. I got the LEM for my husband.

> He was so confused by having several bottles of supplements and could

> never remember how much to take, so he loves the LEM!

>

> ----------, or anyone who uses LEM. Is this the product

you are talking about? I didn't look at all the others, but someone

showed me this one, who may be sulfur sensitive, and I noticed it

contains NAC and broccoli. So I'm just curious if anyone has used it

and noticed if it's enough to make a difference. The NAC worries me,

because it was 600mg.----------Jackie

>

> http://www.lef.org/newshop/items/item01246.html

Jackie,

That's a good point and I wasn't thinking about the NAC and other

sulfury stuff, particularly for my husband. He has never done sulfur

exclusion, and judging from his spontaneous avoidance of many sulfur

foods he might be high cysteine. The trouble is it is hard to get

him to take supplements if there are multiple bottles of stuff to

juggle. I will have to get him to try sulfur exclusion to clarify

his sulfur status, or find another multi for him. Thanks for pointing

this out.

---------Yes, the convenience of a good multi would be great, and the person

pointed out the broccoli to me, asking if this would be too much sulfur, and

then when I looked, I noticed the NAC too. This concerned me more, because I am

normal cysteine, eat sulfur foods, but when I have tried NAC or MSM, I have had

reactions to them. Andy has said that is common/normal, to react more strongly

to the supps than to food. So, if this would have only had the broccoli, I was

going to tell him to try it, but with the NAC too, I am more leary of

it.-------Jackie

I consider myself normal cysteine since I don't seem to fit either

of the extremes, and I only take about 1/3 the daily dose of the LEM.

I'm not aware of it being a problem (but it wouldn't be the first

time that I'm not aware of something that's a problem). In any case,

if I stop using it for him, I won't bother getting it just for me.

--------Has your husband been taking the LEM? For how long? Does he take a

full dose? Has he noticed anything? Maybe he can tolerate it?

It's too bad the sulfury stuff is in there, because this sounds like a good

product otherwise. But it should be fine for some people.---------Jackie

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> ---------Yes, the convenience of a good multi would be great, and

the person pointed out the broccoli to me, asking if this would be too

much sulfur, and then when I looked, I noticed the NAC too. This

concerned me more, because I am normal cysteine, eat sulfur foods, but

when I have tried NAC or MSM, I have had reactions to them. Andy has

said that is common/normal, to react more strongly to the supps than

to food. So, if this would have only had the broccoli, I was going to

tell him to try it, but with the NAC too, I am more leary of

it.-------Jackie

I think the best thing would be for the person to establish cysteine

status first. Then, if appropriate, try NAC alone. If NAC is

tolerated and desired, and if they have good reason to believe they

would be okay with the other ingredients, then they could try the

Life Extension Mix.

> I consider myself normal cysteine since I don't seem to fit either

> of the extremes, and I only take about 1/3 the daily dose of the LEM.

> I'm not aware of it being a problem (but it wouldn't be the first

> time that I'm not aware of something that's a problem). In any case,

> if I stop using it for him, I won't bother getting it just for me.

>

> --------Has your husband been taking the LEM? For how long? Does

he take a full dose? Has he noticed anything? Maybe he can tolerate it?

Heh - I just asked him and he says he's only been taking 5 caps per

day. Interesting. I think I will try to get him back on a minimal

set of individual supps. That's what he was doing for awhile, but

he (1) seems to have trouble opening bottles sometimes (I believe

this is a consequence of his long term inappropriate use of ALA

once a day with amalgams), and (2) he can't remember how much to

take of each thing and when, so I have to put them into other small

bottles labeled like " zinc - 2 tabs per day with food " , " vit C - 4

caps per day with food " , etc. Since he gets impatient with too many

of these, I tend to give him a set of 5 at a time and then rotate

supps in and out every month or so.

Anyway, false hope I'm afraid. You shouldn't assume you've found

someone who tolerates LEM okay. I suspect he probably doesn't.

I also asked him if he noticed any changes since he started taking

it (maybe a couple months now). First he said he might be more

tired, then he waved it off as working long hours, etc. Don't know

how I will get him to try sulfur exclusion. He has just decided

in the past couple of months to become a coffee drinker. Sigh.

> It's too bad the sulfury stuff is in there, because this sounds

like a good product otherwise. But it should be fine for some

people.---------Jackie

Yep.

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