Guest guest Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 Excellent, I thought I read something about that recently. I wonder if perhaps this explains why it was always so difficult for me to make progress excersise wise. I'd start working out, in a good program, good food, making good gains and then WHAM, I'd get an injury, every time. Something kept blocking me from progressing no matter the method. It'd usually end where my back muscles would just sieze up, and after several weeks of therapy it'd be back to normal, and so I'd start back up and boom again. It'd seize up. Not fun. Thanks, Mike > TK--- exercise mobilizes [redistributes] Hg it does not chelate it. > If you are toxic and not eliminating Hg well excercise should be kept > within moderation as it can make things much worse - the amount of > exercise one tollerates will vary per individual . > AI -page 86: " Exercise mobilizes mercury and needs to > be done in MODERATION. It is NOT always good for you. Exercise is > STRESS... " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 Excellent, I thought I read something about that recently. I wonder if perhaps this explains why it was always so difficult for me to make progress excersise wise. I'd start working out, in a good program, good food, making good gains and then WHAM, I'd get an injury, every time. Something kept blocking me from progressing no matter the method. It'd usually end where my back muscles would just sieze up, and after several weeks of therapy it'd be back to normal, and so I'd start back up and boom again. It'd seize up. Not fun. Thanks, Mike > TK--- exercise mobilizes [redistributes] Hg it does not chelate it. > If you are toxic and not eliminating Hg well excercise should be kept > within moderation as it can make things much worse - the amount of > exercise one tollerates will vary per individual . > AI -page 86: " Exercise mobilizes mercury and needs to > be done in MODERATION. It is NOT always good for you. Exercise is > STRESS... " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 Andy also discusses this in HTI page 114. If your calcium and magnesium are really low, or lower than your sodium and potassium, then you will probably be exercise intolerant, and too much of it will make you worse. If your calcium and magnesium are higher than sodium and potassium, then exercise might be more helpful for you. My hair test has very low cal and mag, so this holds true for me.---------Jackie In frequent-dose-chelation mle_ii wrote: Excellent, I thought I read something about that recently. I wonder if perhaps this explains why it was always so difficult for me to make progress excersise wise. I'd start working out, in a good program, good food, making good gains and then WHAM, I'd get an injury, every time. Something kept blocking me from progressing no matter the method. It'd usually end where my back muscles would just sieze up, and after several weeks of therapy it'd be back to normal, and so I'd start back up and boom again. It'd seize up. Not fun. Thanks, Mike > TK--- exercise mobilizes [redistributes] Hg it does not chelate it. > If you are toxic and not eliminating Hg well excercise should be kept > within moderation as it can make things much worse - the amount of > exercise one tollerates will vary per individual . > AI -page 86: " Exercise mobilizes mercury and needs to > be done in MODERATION. It is NOT always good for you. Exercise is > STRESS... " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 Andy also discusses this in HTI page 114. If your calcium and magnesium are really low, or lower than your sodium and potassium, then you will probably be exercise intolerant, and too much of it will make you worse. If your calcium and magnesium are higher than sodium and potassium, then exercise might be more helpful for you. My hair test has very low cal and mag, so this holds true for me.---------Jackie In frequent-dose-chelation mle_ii wrote: Excellent, I thought I read something about that recently. I wonder if perhaps this explains why it was always so difficult for me to make progress excersise wise. I'd start working out, in a good program, good food, making good gains and then WHAM, I'd get an injury, every time. Something kept blocking me from progressing no matter the method. It'd usually end where my back muscles would just sieze up, and after several weeks of therapy it'd be back to normal, and so I'd start back up and boom again. It'd seize up. Not fun. Thanks, Mike > TK--- exercise mobilizes [redistributes] Hg it does not chelate it. > If you are toxic and not eliminating Hg well excercise should be kept > within moderation as it can make things much worse - the amount of > exercise one tollerates will vary per individual . > AI -page 86: " Exercise mobilizes mercury and needs to > be done in MODERATION. It is NOT always good for you. Exercise is > STRESS... " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 Hmmm... seems mine is't as clear. Calcium and Magnesium are to the left in the middle of the green. Sodium is a tiny bit to the right, just in the green. Potassium is far to the left in the middle of the yellow. Do any of these things mean anything? Here are my hair test results: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/frequent-dose- chelation/message/20482 Thanks, Mike > > Andy also discusses this in HTI page 114. If your calcium and magnesium are really low, or lower than your sodium and potassium, then you will probably be exercise intolerant, and too much of it will make you worse. If your calcium and magnesium are higher than sodium and potassium, then exercise might be more helpful for you. My hair test has very low cal and mag, so this holds true for me.----- ----Jackie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 Hmmm... seems mine is't as clear. Calcium and Magnesium are to the left in the middle of the green. Sodium is a tiny bit to the right, just in the green. Potassium is far to the left in the middle of the yellow. Do any of these things mean anything? Here are my hair test results: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/frequent-dose- chelation/message/20482 Thanks, Mike > > Andy also discusses this in HTI page 114. If your calcium and magnesium are really low, or lower than your sodium and potassium, then you will probably be exercise intolerant, and too much of it will make you worse. If your calcium and magnesium are higher than sodium and potassium, then exercise might be more helpful for you. My hair test has very low cal and mag, so this holds true for me.----- ----Jackie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 I had saliva testing done for cortisol. It showed low within range during the day and night time low out of range. Supposedly this indicated adrenal fatigue. But all of my blood tests showed normal. I do remember some tests that the natruopath indicated were fatigued adrenals. All he did was put me on some supplement that supported adrenals called Thorne Phytisone. Here's what it contains in 2 capsules: Vitamin C (as Ascorbic Acid) 250 mg 417% Thiamine (from 30 mg Thiamine HCl) 24 mg 1600% Vitamin B6 (from 10 mg Pyridoxal 5'-Phosphate) 6.8 mg 340% Zinc (as Zinc Picolinate) 2 mg 14% Pantethine Octahydrate 100 mg * Licorice (root) (Glycyrrhiza glabra) 25 mg * Eleuthero extract (root) (Eleutherococcus senticosus) (0.8% total Eleutherosides) 75 mg * Oriental ginseng extract (root) (Panax ginseng) (20% total Ginsenosides) 75 mg * Ashwagandha extract (root) (Withania somnifera) (1.5% Withanolides) 150 mg * Astragalus (Huang-Qi) (root) 100 mg * Ginger extract (root) (Zinglber officinalis) (5% Gingerols) 50 mg * Asked about HC but wouldn't go for it. Boy, I hope I can get back to exercising like I used to. I miss it. Thanks, Mike > ---------My first hair test was similar, but more extreme. Cal and Mag very low to the left in the red and yellow, sodium up a little to the right in the green, and my potassium was low red all the way to the right. So I also had 3 to the left and only one to the right, and didn't know what to make of it. Andy does not say this in HTI, but told me in her experience, that very low potassium is always a sign of adrenal stress. This held true in my case. On my second hair test, after using Isocort (like HC) for a number of months, my potassium came up to the middle with sodium, and my cal and mag stayed very low to the left, almost in the red. I have had exercise intolerance throughout this whole time, and adrenal fatigue, which now makes sense, knowing that the adrenal stress can cause the low potassium. > > So, in your case, things aren't as extreme as mine and I don't remember your situation exactly and what you have/are doing already, but I would learn about adrenal fatigue and possibly get tested if you think it may be a problem, and then consider supporting your adrenals somehow (because of the low potassium), and I would be careful about exercising and really pay attention to how it makes you feel and don't over-do-it (because of the low cal and mag).-------- Jackie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 Another thing. I noticed in Andy's HTI book, page 111, that low hair potassium is possibly related to low thyroid. This page seems to confirm it: http://www.drlwilson.com/Articles/thyroid.htm Yet, it's conflicting. As it indicates I am low thyroid (thyroid tests indicate otherwise) but says I cannot supplement with thyroid as I'm a fast motabolizer. As indicated by my Ca/P ratio of 1.54. Yet on page 113 of HTI my ratio of Na/K indicates I'm within range for thyroid. And again on page 113 my ratio of K/Ca .02 indicates low thyroid. I do have symptoms that indicate low thyroid (cold hands/feet and low body temperature) and low adrenal (difficulty in stressful situations, anxiety). So darn confusing. Mike > > ---------My first hair test was similar, but more extreme. Cal > and Mag very low to the left in the red and yellow, sodium up a > little to the right in the green, and my potassium was low red all > the way to the right. So I also had 3 to the left and only one to > the right, and didn't know what to make of it. Andy does not say > this in HTI, but told me in her experience, that very > low potassium is always a sign of adrenal stress. This held true in > my case. On my second hair test, after using Isocort (like HC) for a > number of months, my potassium came up to the middle with sodium, and > my cal and mag stayed very low to the left, almost in the red. I > have had exercise intolerance throughout this whole time, and adrenal > fatigue, which now makes sense, knowing that the adrenal stress can > cause the low potassium. > > > > So, in your case, things aren't as extreme as mine and I don't > remember your situation exactly and what you have/are doing already, > but I would learn about adrenal fatigue and possibly get tested if > you think it may be a problem, and then consider supporting your > adrenals somehow (because of the low potassium), and I would be > careful about exercising and really pay attention to how it makes you > feel and don't over-do-it (because of the low cal and mag).-------- > Jackie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 Sorry, I swear my brain is worse than normal, I find myself pretty often lately walking into a room to do something and once I get there forgetting why I was there. Though a bit longer term seems fine. Anyway, some things to add to this discussion. According to my hair test. I have low iodine (affects thyroid), low selenium (also affects thyroid) and low maganese (which I think also affects thyroid). Seems that something would show up on a thyroid test if all these things were affecting it. Mike > > > ---------My first hair test was similar, but more extreme. Cal > > and Mag very low to the left in the red and yellow, sodium up a > > little to the right in the green, and my potassium was low red all > > the way to the right. So I also had 3 to the left and only one to > > the right, and didn't know what to make of it. Andy does not say > > this in HTI, but told me in her experience, that > very > > low potassium is always a sign of adrenal stress. This held true > in > > my case. On my second hair test, after using Isocort (like HC) for > a > > number of months, my potassium came up to the middle with sodium, > and > > my cal and mag stayed very low to the left, almost in the red. I > > have had exercise intolerance throughout this whole time, and > adrenal > > fatigue, which now makes sense, knowing that the adrenal stress can > > cause the low potassium. > > > > > > So, in your case, things aren't as extreme as mine and I don't > > remember your situation exactly and what you have/are doing > already, > > but I would learn about adrenal fatigue and possibly get tested if > > you think it may be a problem, and then consider supporting your > > adrenals somehow (because of the low potassium), and I would be > > careful about exercising and really pay attention to how it makes > you > > feel and don't over-do-it (because of the low cal and mag).------- - > > Jackie > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 > > > > ---------My first hair test was similar, but more extreme. > Cal > > > and Mag very low to the left in the red and yellow, sodium up a > > > little to the right in the green, and my potassium was low red > all > > > the way to the right. So I also had 3 to the left and only one > to > > > the right, and didn't know what to make of it. Andy does not say > > > this in HTI, but told me in her experience, that > > very > > > low potassium is always a sign of adrenal stress. This held true > > in > > > my case. On my second hair test, after using Isocort (like HC) > for > > a > > > number of months, my potassium came up to the middle with sodium, > > and > > > my cal and mag stayed very low to the left, almost in the red. I > > > have had exercise intolerance throughout this whole time, and > > adrenal > > > fatigue, which now makes sense, knowing that the adrenal stress > can > > > cause the low potassium. > > > > > > > > So, in your case, things aren't as extreme as mine and I > don't > > > remember your situation exactly and what you have/are doing > > already, > > > but I would learn about adrenal fatigue and possibly get tested > if > > > you think it may be a problem, and then consider supporting your > > > adrenals somehow (because of the low potassium), and I would be > > > careful about exercising and really pay attention to how it makes > > you > > > feel and don't over-do-it (because of the low cal and mag).------- > - > > > Jackie > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 > > > > ---------My first hair test was similar, but more extreme. > Cal > > > and Mag very low to the left in the red and yellow, sodium up a > > > little to the right in the green, and my potassium was low red > all > > > the way to the right. So I also had 3 to the left and only one > to > > > the right, and didn't know what to make of it. Andy does not say > > > this in HTI, but told me in her experience, that > > very > > > low potassium is always a sign of adrenal stress. This held true > > in > > > my case. On my second hair test, after using Isocort (like HC) > for > > a > > > number of months, my potassium came up to the middle with sodium, > > and > > > my cal and mag stayed very low to the left, almost in the red. I > > > have had exercise intolerance throughout this whole time, and > > adrenal > > > fatigue, which now makes sense, knowing that the adrenal stress > can > > > cause the low potassium. > > > > > > > > So, in your case, things aren't as extreme as mine and I > don't > > > remember your situation exactly and what you have/are doing > > already, > > > but I would learn about adrenal fatigue and possibly get tested > if > > > you think it may be a problem, and then consider supporting your > > > adrenals somehow (because of the low potassium), and I would be > > > careful about exercising and really pay attention to how it makes > > you > > > feel and don't over-do-it (because of the low cal and mag).------- > - > > > Jackie > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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