Re: celiac vs. gluten allergy

[Guest guest]

Both of these conditions are what happens when you get a permeable gut

wall that allows gluten through into the blood stream. People with

" gluten allergies " and I use the term loosely because it almost seems

these conditions are one in the same, also test for gluten antibodies.

The immune system recognizes the gluten as foreign and mounts an

attack on it. Because gluten does not belong in the blood, nor does

any partially digested food particle. This is the basis for food

allergies. So the same thing happens with corn, or whatever.

From what I have read, and what we have all discussed on AM, these

conditions seem to be one in the same thing.

As to whether or not one could heal the gut and get the immune system

out of overdrive following chelation...and be able to eat gluten

again..I have heard some day they have, and some have not. It probably

depends on the person, the condition of the disease, how long they

have had it...many things I am sure.

>

> My understanding of celiac, compared to an allergy, is that

different immune responses are involved. Celiac involves the

anti-gliadin antibody, which I think is different from the antibodies

in play with allergies, and it causes the villi in the intestine to

erode. Much as I'd like to go back to gluten grains now that I've

chelated the mercury out, all the celiac literature I've come across

has said that once celiac is triggered, it's permanent, unlike

allergies which can come and go depending on one's levels of toxicity

and reactivity. To see whether a person is dealing with an allergy or

celiac, there are tests for the IgA antibody or a biopsy. Marcia

>

[Guest guest]

Both of these conditions are what happens when you get a permeable gut

wall that allows gluten through into the blood stream. People with

" gluten allergies " and I use the term loosely because it almost seems

these conditions are one in the same, also test for gluten antibodies.

The immune system recognizes the gluten as foreign and mounts an

attack on it. Because gluten does not belong in the blood, nor does

any partially digested food particle. This is the basis for food

allergies. So the same thing happens with corn, or whatever.

From what I have read, and what we have all discussed on AM, these

conditions seem to be one in the same thing.

As to whether or not one could heal the gut and get the immune system

out of overdrive following chelation...and be able to eat gluten

again..I have heard some day they have, and some have not. It probably

depends on the person, the condition of the disease, how long they

have had it...many things I am sure.

>

> My understanding of celiac, compared to an allergy, is that

different immune responses are involved. Celiac involves the

anti-gliadin antibody, which I think is different from the antibodies

in play with allergies, and it causes the villi in the intestine to

erode. Much as I'd like to go back to gluten grains now that I've

chelated the mercury out, all the celiac literature I've come across

has said that once celiac is triggered, it's permanent, unlike

allergies which can come and go depending on one's levels of toxicity

and reactivity. To see whether a person is dealing with an allergy or

celiac, there are tests for the IgA antibody or a biopsy. Marcia

>

[Guest guest]

> >

> > My understanding of celiac, compared to an allergy, is that

> different immune responses are involved. Celiac involves the

> anti-gliadin antibody, which I think is different from the antibodies

> in play with allergies, and it causes the villi in the intestine to

> erode. Much as I'd like to go back to gluten grains now that I've

> chelated the mercury out, all the celiac literature I've come across

> has said that once celiac is triggered, it's permanent, unlike

> allergies which can come and go depending on one's levels of toxicity

> and reactivity. To see whether a person is dealing with an allergy or

> celiac, there are tests for the IgA antibody or a biopsy. Marcia

> >

>

In people with celiac disease, gluten(gliadin)creates the leaky

gut. Once they follow a gluten free diet, the gut heals again.

It's my understanding that in people with CD, the INTESTINES

recognise gluten as an enemy. This leads to inflammation, leaky

gut.

It could be that some people start having celiac disease after

having leaky gut.

Greetings,

Ali