Guest guest Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 sunshine I feel for your shoulder pain. I think you are right in the parasites/liver gallbladder connection. I have frozen shoulder off and on for the past 3 years I experienced renewed painful back burning/shoulder tenderness (liver/parasitic actions I also believe from waht i have read) beginning with first two rounds of dmsa. I was also taking larger dosages of Kroeger Herbs anti parasitic herbs at this time. I backed off the anti parasitic herbs and have just done dmsa for last 5-6 rounds. ( am on round 8 I believe-8mgs-4 hrs).Parasitic pain has lessened. Also this last round I have added reduced amounts of Kroeger herbs-anti parasitics and so far no parasite flair up However in my case I think what helped (this shoulder pain and liver cleansing) was two treatments with a very good crainial sacral lady and two vitamin C IV's Afetr the last crainial sacral treatment I had heavy discharge of what I belive is parasite debris from liver and shoulder pain/back buring has lessened significantly. MY crainial sacral lady said my liver was in a state of spasmatic action...no kidding!! I think the dmsa chelation in conjunction with body releasing mercury burden -post amalgam removal (and liver detoxing) is what is causing this renewed parasitic activity and mercury movement (I think the two go together...some on line artciles also infer this). The good news is the pain/burning has lessened the last week Good luck with your treatment > > ---------Why are you taking essiac tea? I thought it was for cancer > patients mostly? Or is it a general immune booster? Why do you think > it gave you shoulder pains? (This could be put in a separate thread > with appropriate title.)------Jackie > > Sunshine: Jackie, you asked why I'm trying Essiac Tea? I do not have > cancer. > What is in Essiac Tea? Burdock Root, Sheep Sorrel powder, Slippery > Elm (inner bark) powder and Turkish Rhubarb Root powder. The Sheep > Sorrel is the primary healing herb in the tea. The others support > blood cleansing and elimination of toxins. > > I am trying to find out why my shoulders hurt all the time. Chronic > shoulder pain for years and years. Comes and goes, but for the last > 12 months it is with me everyday. > > I see the osteopath regular and weekly for 2 months now and from the > osteopaths point of view, my shoulders should not hurt as much as > they do. > > My shoulder pains are also parasite related. They come when I eat > things that are anti-parasitic. Like coconut oil. pumpkin seeds. A > Parasite cleanse. Pau d'arco tea. Each of these things makes the pain > flare-up and intensifies. > > According to Hulda shoulder pain is gallstones stuck in my bile > duct. She says to test this, do an Epsom salt flush, if the pain > recedes then I have gallstones stuck. I did the Epsom salt flush and > the pain receded for an evening. Her cure for this is liver flushing. > > I have much experience with liver flushing, this was prior to my > mercury knowledge. I know I cannot liver flushing until I have > parasite cleansed recently. But Andy frowns upon Liver flushing and > it is against protocol. It stresses the already over taxed liver. > > So the reason I am taking Essiac tea is to try and detox my liver > without liver flushing. Andy's protocol makes good sense to me and if > I can stay in protocol that would be perfect. But….my shoulders hurt > like hell every single day. > > Essiac tea is a good immune booster and specifically is good for the > liver, a blood detoxer and is anti-parasitic, it is fairly heavy > duty, but that depends the dosage you take. I am low-medium dosing at > the moment. > > Sunshine. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2007 Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 > > sunshine > > I feel for your shoulder pain. I think you are right in the > parasites/liver gallbladder connection. I have frozen shoulder off > and on for the past 3 years > > I experienced renewed painful back burning/shoulder tenderness > (liver/parasitic actions I also believe from waht i have read) > beginning with first two rounds of dmsa. I was also taking larger > dosages of Kroeger Herbs anti parasitic herbs at this time. I backed > off the anti parasitic herbs and have just done dmsa for last 5-6 > rounds. ( am on round 8 I believe-8mgs-4 hrs).Parasitic pain has > lessened. Also this last round I have added reduced amounts of > Kroeger herbs-anti parasitics and so far no parasite flair up > > > However in my case I think what helped (this shoulder pain and liver > cleansing) was two treatments with a very good crainial sacral lady > and two vitamin C IV's > > > Afetr the last crainial sacral treatment I had heavy discharge of > what I belive is parasite debris from liver and shoulder pain/back > buring has lessened significantly. MY crainial sacral lady said my > liver was in a state of spasmatic action...no kidding!! > > I think the dmsa chelation in conjunction with body releasing mercury > burden -post amalgam removal (and liver detoxing) is what is causing > this renewed parasitic activity and mercury movement (I think the two > go together...some on line artciles also infer this). > > The good news is the pain/burning has lessened the last week > > Good luck with your treatment > > Thanks Micheal. I am pretty sure the shoulder pain is parasites AND gallstone related. I've been getting better and better these last 3 months and it is frustrating when some bits of me refuse to mend! Which is why I'm doing parasite cleanse, bowel cleanse and essiac tea all together at the same time. Heavy duty actions for sure and no way can I chelate with DMSA at the same time as all that. Although I was tempted. I have a multitude of symptoms from the parasite cleanse happening now anyway, so I'm glad I am breaking from dmsa. My muscle weakness is from the mercury. When I had a bad round on round 4, the muscle weakness returned….i guess chelating with dmsa is what is needed for muscle weakness. Time will tell. Sunshine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 I found the shoulder pain and frozen shoulder was from a virus which lodges in the neck and head area.. It is called simian virus.. I could not move my left arm very high and with using homeopathic simian virus from Hannah Kroegers line of homeopathics it went away... The simian virus was introduced to us through bad batches of the polio vaccine .. as monkeys with this virus were used to make these batches.. Body1million.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 > > I found the shoulder pain and frozen shoulder was from a > virus which lodges in the neck and head area.. It is called > simian virus.. I could not move my left arm very high and > with using homeopathic simian virus from Hannah Kroegers line > of homeopathics it went away... The simian virus was > introduced to us through bad batches of the polio vaccine .. as > monkeys with this virus were used to make these batches.. > > Body1million.. > I have now completed my 1 month bowel cleanse and 1 month parasite cleanse. My chronic shoulder pain is now 75pct better. During the cleanses i passed at least 6 feet of muqoid plaque. It was jet black and must have been full of toxins. i saw parasites in every BM for the duration of the cleanses. I had to break from chelation to do these cleanses but i feel much much better from doing them:-) I will repeat them again in 3 months time. Chelation with DMSA will restart this week. Sunshine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 > > I found the shoulder pain and frozen shoulder was from a > virus which lodges in the neck and head area.. It is called > simian virus.. I could not move my left arm very high and > with using homeopathic simian virus from Hannah Kroegers line > of homeopathics it went away... The simian virus was > introduced to us through bad batches of the polio vaccine .. as > monkeys with this virus were used to make these batches.. > > Body1million.. > I have now completed my 1 month bowel cleanse and 1 month parasite cleanse. My chronic shoulder pain is now 75pct better. During the cleanses i passed at least 6 feet of muqoid plaque. It was jet black and must have been full of toxins. i saw parasites in every BM for the duration of the cleanses. I had to break from chelation to do these cleanses but i feel much much better from doing them:-) I will repeat them again in 3 months time. Chelation with DMSA will restart this week. Sunshine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 > > I found the shoulder pain and frozen shoulder was from a > virus which lodges in the neck and head area.. It is called > simian virus.. I could not move my left arm very high and > with using homeopathic simian virus from Hannah Kroegers line > of homeopathics it went away... The simian virus was > introduced to us through bad batches of the polio vaccine .. as > monkeys with this virus were used to make these batches.. > > Body1million.. > I have now completed my 1 month bowel cleanse and 1 month parasite cleanse. My chronic shoulder pain is now 75pct better. During the cleanses i passed at least 6 feet of muqoid plaque. It was jet black and must have been full of toxins. i saw parasites in every BM for the duration of the cleanses. I had to break from chelation to do these cleanses but i feel much much better from doing them:-) I will repeat them again in 3 months time. Chelation with DMSA will restart this week. Sunshine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 what did you take for bowel and parasite cleanse ? Nadeem Khan To: frequent-dose-chelation@...: danielproudfoot2001@...: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 11:56:57 +0000Subject: Re: O/T Essiac Tea--->frozen shoulder--->parasites---->chelation >> I found the shoulder pain and frozen shoulder was from a > virus which lodges in the neck and head area.. It is called > simian virus.. I could not move my left arm very high and > with using homeopathic simian virus from Hannah Kroegers line > of homeopathics it went away... The simian virus was > introduced to us through bad batches of the polio vaccine .. as > monkeys with this virus were used to make these batches.. > > Body1million..>I have now completed my 1 month bowel cleanse and 1 month parasite cleanse. My chronic shoulder pain is now 75pct better. During the cleanses i passed at least 6 feet of muqoid plaque. It was jet black and must have been full of toxins. i saw parasites in every BM for the duration of the cleanses. I had to break from chelation to do these cleanses but i feel much much better from doing them:-) I will repeat them again in 3 months time. Chelation with DMSA will restart this week. Sunshine. _________________________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 I did both cleanses from www.humaworm.com. The parasite cleanse also has herbs for bowel cleansing too…it is an all-in-one thing, but I did the bowel cleanse too at the same time, because when I did my first parasite cleanse 4 months ago I had a lot of things needing removing in a very short space of time…..and I got very blocked up and needed colonics to unblock the works. Doing these bowel cleanses and parasite cleanses has played a gigantic part in me getting better. Until I started these cleanses I was in big big trouble. These herbs cleaned me out good and proper. Getting that muquoid plaque out of me has been a blessing. I am over- the-moon happy these herbs worked so well on me. I had been impossible for me to even start healing until these cleanses cleaned me up. I am now digesting the healthy food I eat. The supplements I take I am now actually absorbing. I have put on 10Kg in weight in the 4 months since I started all this body cleansing, which was needed and wanted. In my opinion, no one will ever get better if they don't body cleanse. Sunshine >> I found the shoulder pain and frozen shoulder was from a > virus which lodges in the neck and head area.. It is called > simian virus.. I could not move my left arm very high and > with using homeopathic simian virus from Hannah Kroegers line > of homeopathics it went away... The simian virus was > introduced to us through bad batches of the polio vaccine .. as > monkeys with this virus were used to make these batches.. > > Body1million..>I have now completed my 1 month bowel cleanse and 1 month parasite cleanse. My chronic shoulder pain is now 75pct better. During the cleanses i passed at least 6 feet of muqoid plaque. It was jet black and must have been full of toxins. i saw parasites in every BM for the duration of the cleanses. I had to break from chelation to do these cleanses but i feel much much better from doing them:-) I will repeat them again in 3 months time. Chelation with DMSA will restart this week. Sunshine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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