Guest guest Posted August 23, 2001 Report Share Posted August 23, 2001 Ruthie did really badly in his AS levels, I'm upset but as rotten as it sounds this is the 'kick up the a**' the over-confident so and so needed as he hasn't worked this last year and certainly didn't revise enough. Couldn't help but feel for him when he was so devastated but it has put him in a position where he has to now take responsibility and decide what *he* wants to do next ... does Yeshaya really know what he wants yet? On a more positive note my niece got 3Bs, 6As and 2A* in her GCSE's - she has worked hard and I'm really glad it's paid off for her but her Granny thinks it's such a waste because she wants to be a fashion designer Jenni (& Gethyn) 17yrs, Mari 3yrs (H/B), Babi Bach exp.09/2001 = 36wks+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2001 Report Share Posted August 23, 2001 > Ruthie > > did really badly in his AS levels, I'm upset but as rotten as it sounds > this is the 'kick up the a**' the over-confident so and so needed as he > hasn't worked this last year and certainly didn't revise enough. Couldn't > help but feel for him when he was so devastated but it has put him in a > position where he has to now take responsibility and decide what *he* wants > to do next ... does Yeshaya really know what he wants yet? Bummer about . I wish I could say my son's results have given him a massive kick up the backside too, but he knew he'd get results like these and can't be bothered to care about it too much. I know what he *doesn't* want to do..resit them. *sigh*. Yeshaya is still very much immature about life. He's getting more and more into the idea of this yeshivah. He came back from the basketball game last night, really really excited, not only by the game itself but by the boys who seem to be, thankfully " just his type " of orthodoxy, cool dudes but still orthdodox. What put him off about previous yeshivas he has looked at is what he considers the " loser " element of the boys, who look to him as if they would have nothing in common with him. In this yeshivah the boys are like him, the only difference is that they enjoy studying the Talmud and Torah, which as yet he needs to be inspired to do. Personally I think this yeshivah will be the making of him. Its warm and relaxed attitude yet its dedication to Torah study and its sensible attitude to fun times make it a very unusual place. Rabbi M took the *entire* yeshivah on safari in South Africa this summer (!!!) He didn't even see it as a side activity, he said it was part of the boys' education! He is, indeed, a very special Yeshivah dean. (reminds me a bit of Dead Poets Society and Robin !) If Yeshaya stays here a few years, he will mature from the atmosphere and from being away from home, he will learn a lot (Torah wise) and also in the discipline of study itself, which will serve him in *very* good stead in anything he eventually chooses to do or study at once he leaves. DH plans to ask Rabbi M to have another chat to him before we go back, give him a final burst of inspiration, but Yeshaya now thinks of this yeshivah as a cool place to be and visit, and is talking about popping in there over Sabbath. Previously, yeshivas were to Yeshaya, like places of worship to Damien in the Omen! > On a more positive note my niece got 3Bs, 6As and 2A* in her GCSE's - she > has worked hard and I'm really glad it's paid off for her but her Granny > thinks it's such a waste because she wants to be a fashion designer > > Jenni It will never be a waste. You need qualifications to be a fashion designer too, and she might need those exams to " fall back on " one day. Well done! Ruthie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2001 Report Share Posted August 23, 2001 > Ruthie > > did really badly in his AS levels, I'm upset but as rotten as it sounds > this is the 'kick up the a**' the over-confident so and so needed as he > hasn't worked this last year and certainly didn't revise enough. Couldn't > help but feel for him when he was so devastated but it has put him in a > position where he has to now take responsibility and decide what *he* wants > to do next ... does Yeshaya really know what he wants yet? Bummer about . I wish I could say my son's results have given him a massive kick up the backside too, but he knew he'd get results like these and can't be bothered to care about it too much. I know what he *doesn't* want to do..resit them. *sigh*. Yeshaya is still very much immature about life. He's getting more and more into the idea of this yeshivah. He came back from the basketball game last night, really really excited, not only by the game itself but by the boys who seem to be, thankfully " just his type " of orthodoxy, cool dudes but still orthdodox. What put him off about previous yeshivas he has looked at is what he considers the " loser " element of the boys, who look to him as if they would have nothing in common with him. In this yeshivah the boys are like him, the only difference is that they enjoy studying the Talmud and Torah, which as yet he needs to be inspired to do. Personally I think this yeshivah will be the making of him. Its warm and relaxed attitude yet its dedication to Torah study and its sensible attitude to fun times make it a very unusual place. Rabbi M took the *entire* yeshivah on safari in South Africa this summer (!!!) He didn't even see it as a side activity, he said it was part of the boys' education! He is, indeed, a very special Yeshivah dean. (reminds me a bit of Dead Poets Society and Robin !) If Yeshaya stays here a few years, he will mature from the atmosphere and from being away from home, he will learn a lot (Torah wise) and also in the discipline of study itself, which will serve him in *very* good stead in anything he eventually chooses to do or study at once he leaves. DH plans to ask Rabbi M to have another chat to him before we go back, give him a final burst of inspiration, but Yeshaya now thinks of this yeshivah as a cool place to be and visit, and is talking about popping in there over Sabbath. Previously, yeshivas were to Yeshaya, like places of worship to Damien in the Omen! > On a more positive note my niece got 3Bs, 6As and 2A* in her GCSE's - she > has worked hard and I'm really glad it's paid off for her but her Granny > thinks it's such a waste because she wants to be a fashion designer > > Jenni It will never be a waste. You need qualifications to be a fashion designer too, and she might need those exams to " fall back on " one day. Well done! Ruthie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2001 Report Share Posted August 24, 2001 >Ruthie > > did really badly in his AS levels, I'm upset but as rotten as it sounds >this is the 'kick up the a**' the over-confident so and so needed as he >hasn't worked this last year and certainly didn't revise enough. Couldn't >help but feel for him when he was so devastated but it has put him in a >position where he has to now take responsibility and decide what *he* wants >to do next ... does Yeshaya really know what he wants yet? > >On a more positive note my niece got 3Bs, 6As and 2A* in her GCSE's - she >has worked hard and I'm really glad it's paid off for her but her Granny >thinks it's such a waste because she wants to be a fashion designer > >Jenni My Dad was a bit like that over my sister wanting to do textile design - not a proper subject and all that, though my mother put him firmly straight on that one. My Granny went one better and said to my sister's face " At least [cousin] is doing something [psychology] which will help people " My aunt and another cousin coo and gush (quite rightly) over my sister's work and then talk about how ridiculous it is that a dress could cost X (which is why my sister can't make a living at it) -- jennifer@... Vaudin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2001 Report Share Posted August 24, 2001 >Ruthie > > did really badly in his AS levels, I'm upset but as rotten as it sounds >this is the 'kick up the a**' the over-confident so and so needed as he >hasn't worked this last year and certainly didn't revise enough. Couldn't >help but feel for him when he was so devastated but it has put him in a >position where he has to now take responsibility and decide what *he* wants >to do next ... does Yeshaya really know what he wants yet? > >On a more positive note my niece got 3Bs, 6As and 2A* in her GCSE's - she >has worked hard and I'm really glad it's paid off for her but her Granny >thinks it's such a waste because she wants to be a fashion designer > >Jenni My Dad was a bit like that over my sister wanting to do textile design - not a proper subject and all that, though my mother put him firmly straight on that one. My Granny went one better and said to my sister's face " At least [cousin] is doing something [psychology] which will help people " My aunt and another cousin coo and gush (quite rightly) over my sister's work and then talk about how ridiculous it is that a dress could cost X (which is why my sister can't make a living at it) -- jennifer@... Vaudin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2001 Report Share Posted August 24, 2001 Ruthie From what you said about the Yeshivah it sounds like you are pretty sure it's the best thing for him and that Yeshaya is starting to think that too, guess best thing is that he does get refused that 6th form place (hope you don't mind me saying that!). It certainly sounds like he's just not ready for 6th form which is 'fair enough' and that he would really benefit from the 'time out' and maybe return to studying in a year or so when he's more mature. Jenni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2001 Report Share Posted August 25, 2001 > Ruthie > > From what you said about the Yeshivah it sounds like you are pretty sure > it's the best thing for him and that Yeshaya is starting to think that too, > guess best thing is that he does get refused that 6th form place (hope you > don't mind me saying that!). It certainly sounds like he's just not ready > for 6th form which is 'fair enough' and that he would really benefit from > the 'time out' and maybe return to studying in a year or so when he's more > mature. > > Jenni We have had another long talk with him on the subject, this time specifically on whether he can have access to our house here whilst in yeshivah and if so, how much. ie. NOT to sleep here rather than in Yeshivah dorms, as it will look snobby and superior, not to bring crowds of guys here, but yes to using the washing machine/dryer, and to chill out occasionally. It will all be built on trust, we told him, if after the first term Rabbi M says the use of our house is affecting his ability to integrate, we will withdraw privileges. It was a very productive talk, but the most amazing thing was, at the end of it, I said to him: " Yeshaya one thing. Do you still want us to ask if you can get into sixth form? " He paused a couple of beats, then said " no. " I thought " WOW! " but Dh played devils advocate/reverse psychology and said " don't make any hasty decisions, think it over... " I think he has more or less made his mind up now. I have had a chat with Rabbi M too, he will make sure he settles in. Also several yeshivah students (some from his hated old grammar school) came for Sabbath lunch today, all helping to make him feel part of the place. Ruthie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2001 Report Share Posted August 25, 2001 > Ruthie > > From what you said about the Yeshivah it sounds like you are pretty sure > it's the best thing for him and that Yeshaya is starting to think that too, > guess best thing is that he does get refused that 6th form place (hope you > don't mind me saying that!). It certainly sounds like he's just not ready > for 6th form which is 'fair enough' and that he would really benefit from > the 'time out' and maybe return to studying in a year or so when he's more > mature. > > Jenni We have had another long talk with him on the subject, this time specifically on whether he can have access to our house here whilst in yeshivah and if so, how much. ie. NOT to sleep here rather than in Yeshivah dorms, as it will look snobby and superior, not to bring crowds of guys here, but yes to using the washing machine/dryer, and to chill out occasionally. It will all be built on trust, we told him, if after the first term Rabbi M says the use of our house is affecting his ability to integrate, we will withdraw privileges. It was a very productive talk, but the most amazing thing was, at the end of it, I said to him: " Yeshaya one thing. Do you still want us to ask if you can get into sixth form? " He paused a couple of beats, then said " no. " I thought " WOW! " but Dh played devils advocate/reverse psychology and said " don't make any hasty decisions, think it over... " I think he has more or less made his mind up now. I have had a chat with Rabbi M too, he will make sure he settles in. Also several yeshivah students (some from his hated old grammar school) came for Sabbath lunch today, all helping to make him feel part of the place. Ruthie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2001 Report Share Posted August 25, 2001 > Ruthie > > From what you said about the Yeshivah it sounds like you are pretty sure > it's the best thing for him and that Yeshaya is starting to think that too, > guess best thing is that he does get refused that 6th form place (hope you > don't mind me saying that!). It certainly sounds like he's just not ready > for 6th form which is 'fair enough' and that he would really benefit from > the 'time out' and maybe return to studying in a year or so when he's more > mature. > > Jenni We have had another long talk with him on the subject, this time specifically on whether he can have access to our house here whilst in yeshivah and if so, how much. ie. NOT to sleep here rather than in Yeshivah dorms, as it will look snobby and superior, not to bring crowds of guys here, but yes to using the washing machine/dryer, and to chill out occasionally. It will all be built on trust, we told him, if after the first term Rabbi M says the use of our house is affecting his ability to integrate, we will withdraw privileges. It was a very productive talk, but the most amazing thing was, at the end of it, I said to him: " Yeshaya one thing. Do you still want us to ask if you can get into sixth form? " He paused a couple of beats, then said " no. " I thought " WOW! " but Dh played devils advocate/reverse psychology and said " don't make any hasty decisions, think it over... " I think he has more or less made his mind up now. I have had a chat with Rabbi M too, he will make sure he settles in. Also several yeshivah students (some from his hated old grammar school) came for Sabbath lunch today, all helping to make him feel part of the place. Ruthie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2001 Report Share Posted August 25, 2001 It > was a very productive talk, but the most amazing thing was, at the > end of it, I said to him: " Yeshaya one thing. Do you still want us > to ask if you can get into sixth form? " He paused a couple of beats, > then said " no. " > > I thought " WOW! " > . > > Ruthie Ruthie I hope and pray that the time ahead is good for Yeshaya, and peaceful for all of your family, but mainly for you. You are right, the most difficult decision has now been made. Lets hope that this is the first step into the adult world. Beverly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2001 Report Share Posted August 25, 2001 > I hope and pray that the time ahead is good for Yeshaya, and peaceful > for all of your family, but mainly for you. You are right, the most > difficult decision has now been made. Lets hope that this is the > first step into the adult world. > > Beverly Thanks so much Beverley. He said to Tavya this afternoon: " I am going to yeshivah not just to please Mummy and Daddy but because I want to be a better person, and more religious. " I know, however, that he is *very* scared of this new step. He has never really been away from home before and is a big baby really. Ruthie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2001 Report Share Posted August 25, 2001 > I hope and pray that the time ahead is good for Yeshaya, and peaceful > for all of your family, but mainly for you. You are right, the most > difficult decision has now been made. Lets hope that this is the > first step into the adult world. > > Beverly Thanks so much Beverley. He said to Tavya this afternoon: " I am going to yeshivah not just to please Mummy and Daddy but because I want to be a better person, and more religious. " I know, however, that he is *very* scared of this new step. He has never really been away from home before and is a big baby really. Ruthie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2001 Report Share Posted August 25, 2001 > I hope and pray that the time ahead is good for Yeshaya, and peaceful > for all of your family, but mainly for you. You are right, the most > difficult decision has now been made. Lets hope that this is the > first step into the adult world. > > Beverly Thanks so much Beverley. He said to Tavya this afternoon: " I am going to yeshivah not just to please Mummy and Daddy but because I want to be a better person, and more religious. " I know, however, that he is *very* scared of this new step. He has never really been away from home before and is a big baby really. Ruthie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2001 Report Share Posted August 25, 2001 Ruthie > I think he has more or less made his mind up now. I have had a > chat with Rabbi M too, he will make sure he settles in. Excellent, sounds like you are all feeling comfortable with this decision, at last a resolution Jenni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2001 Report Share Posted August 25, 2001 Ruthie > I think he has more or less made his mind up now. I have had a > chat with Rabbi M too, he will make sure he settles in. Excellent, sounds like you are all feeling comfortable with this decision, at last a resolution Jenni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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