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In a message dated 8/13/01 5:44:20 PM W. writes:

> I object to you and your

> " supporters " turning this into an anti-Semitism issue.

>

Hang on - I can't remember any anti-Semitism being mentioned in this list.

If I have come out in support of Ruth on this issue - it as a supporter of

the right to free speech, and nothing else.

I was just surprised that someone/ somepeople should complain to someone else

about another party regarding what they said. To take the coffee morning

analogy - if I had a problem with something being said, then I would approach

that person, and say I had been offended. I wouldn't go to the hostess and

tell her to go and tell the other person she had offended. Likewise - I

wouldn't expect to turn up at a coffee morning and be told what I could and

couldn't say.

Please, please let's move on.

Debbie Slater

Perth, WA

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Gladly, I will move on but may I point out that Ruthie was the one who

mentioned bigotry and anti-semitism is, as I understand it, the

correct term for being discriminated against or disliked for reason of

being

Jewish.

You might well be forthright enough to approach someone with a problem

at a coffee morning, other people aren't. I once had to tell my best

friend that she had deeply upset someone at a coffee morning by an

unthinking remarkl. No-one told her this to her face but this person

phoned me

afterwards as chair and hostess and expected me to deal with it just

as whoever complained to the moderator did.

As for not being told what you can talk about at a coffee morning, I

was merely trying to establish that it is a fairly standard

convention that people do not discuss religion or politics at a social

event.

I mentioned you by name only in the context of your quite correct

assertion that at least

in an email environment people can hit the delete key.

Now shall we be terribly polite and talk about the weather for a

while, whilst we all calm down :))

> Hang on - I can't remember any anti-Semitism being mentioned in this

list.

>

- if I had a problem with something being said, then I would

approach

> that person, and say I had been offended. I wouldn't go to the

hostess and

> tell her to go and tell the other person she had offended.

Likewise - I

> wouldn't expect to turn up at a coffee morning and be told what I

could and

> couldn't say.

>

> Please, please let's move on.

>

> Debbie Slater

> Perth, WA

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Gladly, I will move on but may I point out that Ruthie was the one who

mentioned bigotry and anti-semitism is, as I understand it, the

correct term for being discriminated against or disliked for reason of

being

Jewish.

You might well be forthright enough to approach someone with a problem

at a coffee morning, other people aren't. I once had to tell my best

friend that she had deeply upset someone at a coffee morning by an

unthinking remarkl. No-one told her this to her face but this person

phoned me

afterwards as chair and hostess and expected me to deal with it just

as whoever complained to the moderator did.

As for not being told what you can talk about at a coffee morning, I

was merely trying to establish that it is a fairly standard

convention that people do not discuss religion or politics at a social

event.

I mentioned you by name only in the context of your quite correct

assertion that at least

in an email environment people can hit the delete key.

Now shall we be terribly polite and talk about the weather for a

while, whilst we all calm down :))

> Hang on - I can't remember any anti-Semitism being mentioned in this

list.

>

- if I had a problem with something being said, then I would

approach

> that person, and say I had been offended. I wouldn't go to the

hostess and

> tell her to go and tell the other person she had offended.

Likewise - I

> wouldn't expect to turn up at a coffee morning and be told what I

could and

> couldn't say.

>

> Please, please let's move on.

>

> Debbie Slater

> Perth, WA

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