Re: O/T - Specific Carbohydrate Diet & Hypoglycemia??

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>

> I've read how the SCD has worked for some. I would like to try it

> (to fix gut issues including candida) but am concerned about the

> fruit and honey and blood sugar effects. I'm not sure if I have

If I understand the diet correctly, it is allowed, but not required

to eat fruit and honey on this diet.

> hypoglycemia or not but do know that something is not right with my

> blood sugar. Eating processed carbs makes me feel like I am having a

> milder blood sugar reaction than sugar (which i no longer eat). I've

> had regular fasting blood sugar tests and test fine.

>

> Can the yeast make me have blood sugar reactions? I was wonering if

> SCD cleared up or put yeast under control if that would make the

> fruit & honey ok for me.

I don't know. It is an empirical question. If you have not been

eating these, I would add them slowly if you want to try them out.

> Also, the SCD sounds too good to be true b/c of the fruit & honey.

> But I can't go on any longer on just meat & vegetables. I've been

> doing this for a few years & go through cheating periods (like right

> now) and figure SCD would just be better (more well rounded) then

> going from one extreme to the other.

I have tried SCD a couple of times just for a few days. All I tried

was the Welch's grape juice that they recommend. I do not tolerate

it. Haven't tried the honey, but pretty sure I would not tolerate

that.

> I know not to go overboard on the fruit & honey. But am still

> concerned as I become addicted (to put it mildly) to sugar & put on

> weight quickly (which i can't afford to do).

>

> My hair test is all low suggesting that I am malnourished (but

> overweight) and really feel nutrients are a big issue for me.

Digestive enzymes and betaine hcl are likely to help.

When was your hair test and what did it say about blood sugar?

Ca/Mg ratio is the blood sugar ratio - should be in 4-30 range.

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> Can anyone give me any guidance on how yeast affects blood sugar and

> also if SCD (w/fruit & honey) would effect blood sugar?

>

> Sam

>

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>

> I've read how the SCD has worked for some. I would like to try it

> (to fix gut issues including candida) but am concerned about the

> fruit and honey and blood sugar effects.

If you are interested in the SCD you really need to read the book,

" Breaking the Vicious Cycle " , and read as much as you can find on

internet sites.

The advise is to start on the beginner diet, which is very limited,

and stay on the beginner diet for 2 days to a week depending on how

bad symptoms are. Then there is a sequence of how soon certain things

can be added and rules about what can be added when.

Starting on the beginner diet is very important. When I first tried

SCD I didn't know this and I wasn't getting better until I searched

and found the beginner diet.

First off, the list of legal and illegal foods has to be handy because

at first a person needs to refer to that list all the time and read

every single ingredient on any packaged foods.

I remember reading that honey can be added only if tolerated and that

some people can't tolerate honey at first.

Another point was that any food that could not be tolerated before

trying the SCD should not be introduced until after a long time on the

diet and all symptoms (diarrhea, gas, cramping, bloating, etc) had

cleared.

At first vegetables are to be cooked.

And seeds weren't to be introduced until I forget how many months on

the diet.

It's not like all fruits are legal. Some are. Bananas, for example,

have to be overripe, mostly black. I don't care for them that way so

only use them to make banana cake. Dole juices and welch's juices are

legal because they don't have any added sugar. Every other juice is

illegal.

If some food is added and it causes diarrhea, gas, or some other

symptom it is to be taken away!

> I'm not sure if I have

> hypoglycemia or not but do know that something is not right with my

> blood sugar. Eating processed carbs makes me feel like I am having a

> milder blood sugar reaction than sugar (which i no longer eat). I've

> had regular fasting blood sugar tests and test fine.

>

If you have adrenal problems you likely have problems with

hypoglycemia even if sugar tests are usually within the normal range.

What happens is if there is a blood sugar peak, it makes a person feel

real good (zoom,zoom,zoom, is how it makes me feel), but then what

follows is a blood sugar crash. When blood sugar crashes something

has to happen because the brain needs a steady concentration of sugar,

so the adrenals are called on to increase blood sugar, and because

they are fried they can't do it, and that leads to sugar cravings, and

other symptoms (for me usually emotional, my brain isn't able to make

much sense about anything at that stage).

> Can the yeast make me have blood sugar reactions?

The thing about yeast, or even bacterial dysbiosis, is that on the SCD

the only sugars that are allowed are simple sugars that are readily

absorbed quickly and because they are absorbed so quickly they aren't

available for opportunists. Disaccharides and polysaccharides are not

allowed, so they are not around to feed the yeast and other

opportunists. If the opportunists aren't being fed their populations

will decrease.

One would still have to try to maintain a fairly steady blood sugar

level, something like a diabetic would have to , in order to have not

too much and not too little simple sugars taken in at one time. That

is easy to do on the SCD but one would have to make a point of making

sure that each meal and snack is balanced, not too heavy on the sugars

at any one time. And, I really think that maintaining steady blood

sugar levels has more to do with adrenal problems than with yeast

problems.

I was wonering if

> SCD cleared up or put yeast under control if that would make the

> fruit & honey ok for me.

>

It may be that honey and some fruits would have to be avoided at first

but hopefully with time on the diet fruit and honey would be ok for

you. I'm not going to guess how long on the diet it would take!

> Also, the SCD sounds too good to be true b/c of the fruit & honey.

> But I can't go on any longer on just meat & vegetables. I've been

> doing this for a few years & go through cheating periods (like right

> now) and figure SCD would just be better (more well rounded) then

> going from one extreme to the other.

>

> I know not to go overboard on the fruit & honey. But am still

> concerned as I become addicted (to put it mildly) to sugar & put on

> weight quickly (which i can't afford to do).

>

> My hair test is all low suggesting that I am malnourished (but

> overweight) and really feel nutrients are a big issue for me.

>

I was on a gluten free, dairy free, legume free, sugar restricted diet

before I went on the SCD. I did very well on that diet, but even

better on the SCD. When I started the SCD it was like I was ravenous

for a whole bunch of foods that I had previously not been eating

(coconut, dates, peanut butter, HONEY, butter, cheese, and so on) and

I did go nuts at first and put on a lot of weight. I do think that

the SCD is right for me but I really have to force myself to be more

balanced, and have some meat and vegetables with my honey/almond

biscuits. I expect that you would have to be real careful too. What

works for me is if I always have vegetables washed and nibble away at

them all day, and have small quantities of protein evenly spaced over

the day, which is difficult because I hate meat. If I let my blood

sugar get low, watch out.

> Can anyone give me any guidance on how yeast affects blood sugar and

> also if SCD (w/fruit & honey) would effect blood sugar?

>

Yeast is just an opportunist feasting away on what hasn't been

digested and absorbed yet. The fruit and honey would effect blood

sugar, so one has to use moderation and balance every meal with

protein and lots of vegetables.

J

> Sam

>

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>

> > Can anyone give me any guidance on how yeast affects blood sugar and

> > also if SCD (w/fruit & honey) would effect blood sugar?

> >

>

>

> Yeast is just an opportunist feasting away on what hasn't been

> digested and absorbed yet. The fruit and honey would effect blood

> sugar, so one has to use moderation and balance every meal with

> protein and lots of vegetables.

Yes, I was just reading a post from Andy about this, in which he was guessing

that the

reason some kids were doing badly on SCD was that the moms were not allowing

enough

honey and fruit out of fear of yeast, but that the kids had adrenal problems and

needed those

carbs. So yes to balance at every meal...

Nell

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In frequent-dose-chelation dimaggio56in41 wrote:

I've read how the SCD has worked for some. I would like to try it

(to fix gut issues including candida) but am concerned about the

fruit and honey and blood sugar effects. I'm not sure if I have

hypoglycemia or not but do know that something is not right with my

blood sugar. Eating processed carbs makes me feel like I am having a

milder blood sugar reaction than sugar (which i no longer eat). I've

had regular fasting blood sugar tests and test fine.

----------I have not done SCD, so can't comment on that, but my blood sugar is

high, not low, so not sure if I can help you either. Anyway, have you had your

hemoglobin A1c tested? It tells how you've been handling blood sugar over the

past couple of months, not just one moment in time. Might be worth doing.

Also, does arsenic show up on your hair test? Mine is high, and this can also

affect your blood sugar. Read the parts about arsenic in the HTI book. If this

is the case, then Andy says as low a carb diet as you can stand, such as Atkins,

is what to do.---------Jackie

Can the yeast make me have blood sugar reactions? I was wonering if

SCD cleared up or put yeast under control if that would make the

fruit & honey ok for me.

Also, the SCD sounds too good to be true b/c of the fruit & honey.

But I can't go on any longer on just meat & vegetables. I've been

doing this for a few years & go through cheating periods (like right

now) and figure SCD would just be better (more well rounded) then

going from one extreme to the other.

I know not to go overboard on the fruit & honey. But am still

concerned as I become addicted (to put it mildly) to sugar & put on

weight quickly (which i can't afford to do).

My hair test is all low suggesting that I am malnourished (but

overweight) and really feel nutrients are a big issue for me.

-----------I'm the same, all low hair test, but overweight, so it didn't

really make sense to me either. I asked about this, and she told

me that all low on my hair test meant that I am low on stomach acid, so not

absorbing nutrients, but also that my body only digested the carbs, because they

are easiest to digest when you are low on stomach acid, and so you gain weight

from the carbs. And you need to take enough stomach acid (Betaine HCl) with

each meal, which I wasn't doing. So if you're not taking enough stomach acid,

your other supplements are just a waste of money, because you're not absorbing

them. I think the other factors in my weight problem has been stress causing

high cortisol and my blood sugar problems. I think the high cortisol happened

years ago, because now my adrenals are worn out and not producing enough, so I

don't fit the standard picture of hypoadrenal, being thin. And part of my

problem may be the arsenic also. Anyway, hope this helps.-----Jackie

Can anyone give me any guidance on how yeast affects blood sugar and

also if SCD (w/fruit & honey) would effect blood sugar?

Sam

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