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Thanks for the welcome Sher. I checked the morning and found out

there is a teaching hospital in Seattle about 7 hours away. I am

going to contact my insurance company and make sure it's covered but

I think I can make an appointment there without a referral. I also

checked in to getting an oximeter. I live in Rathdrum ID. That's

about 6 miles NW of Coeur d' Alene ID and yes I have a pulmodoc that

diagnosed me. I think I am going to start calling him the minute man

cause that's the amount of time he give me. My name is Sunny Pickel.

Yes that's right, my last name is Pickel but at least I didn't grow

up with it like my husband whose name is . He was Dick Pickel

in school. Luckily he is a big guy and he might have been given many

high school swirlees. I am amazed at the support and quality info I

have received since I signed up. Everyone here is just a blessing.

>

> rpickel (what is your name?)

> Wow, you have been through so much. I'm sorry for the plates you

have to juggle. One good thing tho' is you are in the right place for

support and info.

> In my case, it wasn't the lung function lost it was that the oxygen

level in my blood was not enough...our levels should be above 90-91

all the time. O2 level is measured with an oximeter and many of us

have our own. They can be purchased for $65 at

> www.portablenebs.com they are FDA approved and work well. It's

the yellow one. It just clamps on a finger...

> SOB (shortness of breath) is certainly a sign you may need 02.

> Are you seeing a pulmonologist?

> In what State do you live?

> Others will reply who have more knowledge than I do.

> But welcome, I'll watch for your posts...

> MamaSher; 70, IPF 3-06, OR.

> Nasturtiums

> Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!

>

> ILD/Pulm. Fibrosis

>

>

>

> I have just been told by my pulmonologist that I have Idiopathic

Interstitial Lung Disease and that I have lost 60% of my lung

function. I also have ground glasslike nodules in my lungs and much

scarring. I am a 51 year old female who until 4 years ago had an

extremely active life. Then it all started with seizures, headaches,

joint pain and fatigue. After many, many tests I was told I had

Lupus then shortly after was diagnosed with Sjogrens then arthritis.

Lots of auto immune stuff. I have been on Prednisone every since.

Without it the pain is just too much. My sed rate and CRP are always

a mess. Then my right thyroid grew a huge benign tumor which had to

be removed and now have to take synthroid for that. I have had 4

gastric bleeding hPylori bacteria ulcers in the past four years. I

am currently recovering from the last. Scope showed the ulcer gone

but the bacteria still very much there. The the gastro doc told me I

have Barrett's Disease probably caused by my GERD which they can not

seem to get under control. The odds are 1 in 100 people's Barrett's

will turn cancerous. There is no treatment once that happens. But

then again out of the millions of people in the US only 100,000 get

Barrett's. It is supposed to be a slow progressive disease but I was

clear then 2 months later my throat is speckled with Barrett's. That

is one of the reasons I am so worried about the ILD diagnoses. Until

3 months ago my lungs felt fine. Now I have a hacking cough with

lots of sputum, my lungs hurt, I cough up blood and upon awaking in

the morning I feel like I'm drowning. I have read that ILD is a slow

progressive disease as well but it doesn't seem to be that way with

me. I read that ILD can be caused by GERD and auto immune diseases.

Does any one know if this is accurate? They haven't put me on oxygen

but I am having a whole bunch of other tests done next week. Does

any one have a guess as to how much lung function I will lose before

they put me on oxygen? Any information about ILD that anyone can

share would help. My doctor is always so in and out that I feel

totally adrift. Thank you.

>

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Sher, Rathdrum is in Idaho about 15 miles north of Spokane, WA. It is

lovely here. We live at the base of a beautiful mountain and get to

see elk, moose, deer, bald eagles, hawks and nature unsullied. There

are only about 4,000 people in Rathdrum and everyone we have met has

been so friendly. Funny, my husband's name is also Rich. Our closest

hospital is in Coeur d' Alene, ID but I usually go in to Spokane

where there are four different hospitals. But I think for my second

opinion I am going to go to the teaching hospital in Seattle. We

moved here from Vancouver, WA and my husband still has lots of family

there and in White Salmon. I wonder if depression is part of IPF as

today has been a rough one for me. I feel cheated by my doctor for

not explaining more. I am not comfortable telling anyone yet as I

want to have the other tests and see someone else first so it's just

me and my husband. He is in denial most of the time or treats me

like I might break any minute. I guess I am just very scared because

every one of my illness' have progressed much faster than any of the

doctors thought. This IPF thing happened over a much shorter period

of time than it seems to have progressed with most others. I mean

losing 60% in a year and the nasty systems just started a few months

back and get worse every day. Well, I guess I just have to leave it

in God's hands. In heaven there are no tears or pain so no worries.

Right

> >

> > From: rpickel1@

> > Subject: Re: ILD/Pulm. Fibrosis

> > To: Breathe-Support

> > Date: Saturday, February 28, 2009, 4:13 AM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi Margaret,

> >

> > This site is so wonderful. I can't believe I have gotten so

many

> nice replies so quickly. My name is Sunny and I used to live up

to

> it but the last few years have slowed down my laugh track. My

> pulmdoc found the glass last year but didn't think it worth doing

a

> biopsy since I did not have any symptoms and had 100% lung

function.

> I will find out next week if there are more of the nodules than

> before. I have seen the ground glass nodules mentioned on some

med

> sites. I think maybe webmd but I had googled ILD and looked at a

lot

> of sites. They did tell me I had COPD last year and put me on

oxygen

> but I improved so much in 5 months he took me off it. My O2 at

rest

> is about 98% but drops significantly when walking. I think he is

> just waiting for the CT and sputum reports before he starts any

> treatment. Since I am already on Prednisone and that seems to be

the

> first line of treatment for ILD I think he's just being

conservative

> then again he

> > only spent about 2 minutes with me and seemed confused and a

> little angry when I started crying after the diagnoses. When he

said

> I had already lost 60% lung capacity I was freaked. My disease

seems

> to be progressing much more rapidly then usual. I can deal with

the

> shortness of breath much easier than I can the chest pain and

> coughing. I am hoping he will do something about that when I see

him

> next. I am also considering getting a second opinion since my

doc

> doesn't seem to have time or compassion. Don't hesitate to write

if

> you think I can help in any way.

> >

> > Sunny

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > From: Margaret McConnell

> > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 10:21 PM

> > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

> > Subject: Re: ILD/Pulm. Fibrosis

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi 'rpickel', do you have another name?

> >

> > You are the first that I have heard use the term 'ground glass'

on

> this board, that was one of my first PH symptoms. I was diagnosed

> with pneumonitis in 97, PH in 06, COPD and PF most recently. I

was at

> 43% lung capacity the first time they gave me a PFT. They called

my

> pulmonologist immediately and sent me home with oxygen 24/7 right

> then at 2lt. We say that we are all different but I would say

from my

> experience that you need oxygen NOW, especially with all of your

> other physical problems. Our bodies need the oxygen to function

and

> heal properly. I do not have GERD or any autoimmune disease but

> others on the board do and can tell you more about them.

> >

> > I am relatively new on the board but can tell you that there is

> alot of information to be found for your questions. I hope they

give

> you oxygen on your next visit, I have a nifty liquid oxygen back

> pack. I was very active before also. I would also add not to rush

or

> be in a hurry, allow extra time and go slow, breath in through

your

> nose and out through pursed lips so that you don't end up gasping

> like a fish out of water...like I did...

> >

> > Margaret

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > From: " rpickel1 (AT) msn (DOT) com "

> > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

> > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 8:05:21 PM

> > Subject: ILD/Pulm. Fibrosis

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > I have just been told by my pulmonologist that I have

Idiopathic

> Interstitial Lung Disease and that I have lost 60% of my lung

> function. I also have ground glasslike nodules in my lungs and

much

> scarring. I am a 51 year old female who until 4 years ago had an

> extremely active life. Then it all started with seizures,

headaches,

> joint pain and fatigue. After many, many tests I was told I had

> Lupus then shortly after was diagnosed with Sjogrens then

arthritis.

> Lots of auto immune stuff. I have been on Prednisone every

since..

> Without it the pain is just too much. My sed rate and CRP are

always

> a mess. Then my right thyroid grew a huge benign tumor which had

to

> be removed and now have to take synthroid for that. I have had 4

> gastric bleeding hPylori bacteria ulcers in the past four years.

I

> am currently recovering from the last. Scope showed the ulcer

gone

> but the bacteria still very much there. The the gastro doc told

me I

> have

> > Barrett's Disease probably caused by my GERD which they can not

> seem to get under control. The odds are 1 in 100 people's

Barrett's

> will turn cancerous. There is no treatment once that happens.

But

> then again out of the millions of people in the US only 100,000

get

> Barrett's. It is supposed to be a slow progressive disease but I

was

> clear then 2 months later my throat is speckled with Barrett's.

That

> is one of the reasons I am so worried about the ILD diagnoses.

Until

> 3 months ago my lungs felt fine. Now I have a hacking cough with

> lots of sputum, my lungs hurt, I cough up blood and upon awaking

in

> the morning I feel like I'm drowning. I have read that ILD is a

slow

> progressive disease as well but it doesn't seem to be that way

with

> me. I read that ILD can be caused by GERD and auto immune

diseases.

> Does any one know if this is accurate? They haven't put me on

oxygen

> but I am having a whole bunch of other tests done next week. Does

> > any one have a guess as to how much lung function I will lose

> before they put me on oxygen? Any information about ILD that

anyone

> can share would help. My doctor is always so in and out that I

feel

> totally adrift. Thank you.

> >

>

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Sorry for the confusion, yes it's Idaho not Oregon. My mind hasn't

been very clear since they so abruptly gave me the diagnoses. He

spent about 3 minutes with me when I first arrived asking about my

symtoms, listened to my lungs and then sent me to others for a

battery of tests. He didn't give me any of the results just that I

had Idiopathic Interstitial Lung Disease/Pulm. Fibrosis and that I

only had 40% lung capcity left then he walked out. I had to find

this site just to try and understand what he was talking about. He

ordered a CT and Sputum test but never discussed what my O2 stats

were with movement. And told me to come back in 1 month. With the

way this thing is progressing I am very uncomfortable with waiting

that long. He didn't even address the coughing up blood point. I can

understand from what I have read here, WebMD and other sites that

this is supposed to be a slow progressive disease but does that

factor in a compromised immune system? I just want some answers now.

The next month is going to last forever.

> >

> > rpickel (what is your name?)

> > Wow, you have been through so much. I'm sorry for the plates

you

> have to juggle. One good thing tho' is you are in the right place

for

> support and info.

> > In my case, it wasn't the lung function lost it was that the

oxygen

> level in my blood was not enough...our levels should be above 90-

91

> all the time. O2 level is measured with an oximeter and many of

us

> have our own. They can be purchased for $65 at

> > www.portablenebs.com they are FDA approved and work well. It's

> the yellow one. It just clamps on a finger...

> > SOB (shortness of breath) is certainly a sign you may need 02.

> > Are you seeing a pulmonologist?

> > In what State do you live?

> > Others will reply who have more knowledge than I do.

> > But welcome, I'll watch for your posts...

> > MamaSher; 70, IPF 3-06, OR.

> > Nasturtiums

> > Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!

> >

> > ILD/Pulm. Fibrosis

> >

> >

> >

> > I have just been told by my pulmonologist that I have

Idiopathic

> Interstitial Lung Disease and that I have lost 60% of my lung

> function. I also have ground glasslike nodules in my lungs and

much

> scarring. I am a 51 year old female who until 4 years ago had an

> extremely active life. Then it all started with seizures,

headaches,

> joint pain and fatigue. After many, many tests I was told I had

> Lupus then shortly after was diagnosed with Sjogrens then

arthritis.

> Lots of auto immune stuff. I have been on Prednisone every since.

> Without it the pain is just too much. My sed rate and CRP are

always

> a mess. Then my right thyroid grew a huge benign tumor which had

to

> be removed and now have to take synthroid for that. I have had 4

> gastric bleeding hPylori bacteria ulcers in the past four years.

I

> am currently recovering from the last. Scope showed the ulcer

gone

> but the bacteria still very much there. The the gastro doc told

me I

> have Barrett's Disease probably caused by my GERD which they can

not

> seem to get under control. The odds are 1 in 100 people's

Barrett's

> will turn cancerous. There is no treatment once that happens. But

> then again out of the millions of people in the US only 100,000

get

> Barrett's. It is supposed to be a slow progressive disease but I

was

> clear then 2 months later my throat is speckled with Barrett's.

That

> is one of the reasons I am so worried about the ILD diagnoses.

Until

> 3 months ago my lungs felt fine. Now I have a hacking cough with

> lots of sputum, my lungs hurt, I cough up blood and upon awaking

in

> the morning I feel like I'm drowning. I have read that ILD is a

slow

> progressive disease as well but it doesn't seem to be that way

with

> me. I read that ILD can be caused by GERD and auto immune

diseases.

> Does any one know if this is accurate? They haven't put me on

oxygen

> but I am having a whole bunch of other tests done next week. Does

> any one have a guess as to how much lung function I will lose

before

> they put me on oxygen? Any information about ILD that anyone can

> share would help. My doctor is always so in and out that I feel

> totally adrift. Thank you.

> >

>

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ILD is Interstial Lung Disease There are approx. 200 forms of ILD. The most common is Idiopathic Pulmonary Fibrosis. Others can explain it a lot better than I can and I'm sure they will respond. Keep asking questions, Ginny! I'm still learning too. Ken R.

Subject: Re: ILD/Pulm. FibrosisTo: Breathe-Support Date: Saturday, February 28, 2009, 4:04 PM

What is ILD? Ginny, IPF6-08,COPD5- 98,Richmond, VA

From: "rpickel1 (AT) msn (DOT) com" <rpickel1 (AT) msn (DOT) com>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comSent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 4:13:12 AMSubject: Re: ILD/Pulm.. Fibrosis

Hi Margaret,

This site is so wonderful. I can't believe I have gotten so many nice replies so quickly. My name is Sunny and I used to live up to it but the last few years have slowed down my laugh track. My pulmdoc found the glass last year but didn't think it worth doing a biopsy since I did not have any symptoms and had 100% lung function. I will find out next week if there are more of the nodules than before. I have seen the ground glass nodules mentioned on some med sites. I think maybe webmd but I had googled ILD and looked at a lot of sites. They did tell me I had COPD last year and put me on oxygen but I improved so much in 5 months he took me off it. My O2 at rest is about 98% but drops significantly when walking. I think he is just waiting for the CT and sputum reports before he starts any treatment. Since I am already on Prednisone and that seems to be the first line of

treatment for ILD I think he's just being conservative then again he only spent about 2 minutes with me and seemed confused and a little angry when I started crying after the diagnoses. When he said I had already lost 60% lung capacity I was freaked. My disease seems to be progressing much more rapidly then usual. I can deal with the shortness of breath much easier than I can the chest pain and coughing. I am hoping he will do something about that when I see him next. I am also considering getting a second opinion since my doc doesn't seem to have time or compassion. Don't hesitate to write if you think I can help in any way.

Sunny

From: Margaret McConnell

Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 10:21 PM

To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Re: ILD/Pulm. Fibrosis

Hi 'rpickel', do you have another name?

You are the first that I have heard use the term 'ground glass' on this board, that was one of my first PH symptoms. I was diagnosed with pneumonitis in 97, PH in 06, COPD and PF most recently. I was at 43% lung capacity the first time they gave me a PFT. They called my pulmonologist immediately and sent me home with oxygen 24/7 right then at 2lt. We say that we are all different but I would say from my experience that you need oxygen NOW, especially with all of your other physical problems. Our bodies need the oxygen to function and heal properly. I do not have GERD or any autoimmune disease but others on the board do and can tell you more about them..

I am relatively new on the board but can tell you that there is alot of information to be found for your questions. I hope they give you oxygen on your next visit, I have a nifty liquid oxygen back pack. I was very active before also.. I would also add not to rush or be in a hurry, allow extra time and go slow, breath in through your nose and out through pursed lips so that you don't end up gasping like a fish out of water...like I did...

Margaret

From: "rpickel1 (AT) msn (DOT) com" <rpickel1 (AT) msn (DOT) com>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comSent: Friday, February 27, 2009 8:05:21 PMSubject: ILD/Pulm. Fibrosis

I have just been told by my pulmonologist that I have Idiopathic Interstitial Lung Disease and that I have lost 60% of my lung function. I also have ground glasslike nodules in my lungs and much scarring. I am a 51 year old female who until 4 years ago had an extremely active life. Then it all started with seizures, headaches, joint pain and fatigue. After many, many tests I was told I had Lupus then shortly after was diagnosed with Sjogrens then arthritis. Lots of auto immune stuff. I have been on Prednisone every since.. Without it the pain is just too much. My sed rate and CRP are always a mess. Then my right thyroid grew a huge benign tumor which had to be removed and now have to take synthroid for that. I have had 4 gastric bleeding hPylori bacteria ulcers in the past four years. I am currently recovering from the last. Scope showed the ulcer gone but the

bacteria still very much there. The the gastro doc told me I have Barrett's Disease probably caused by my GERD which they can not seem to get under control. The odds are 1 in 100 people's Barrett's will turn cancerous. There is no treatment once that happens. But then again out of the millions of people in the US only 100,000 get Barrett's. It is supposed to be a slow progressive disease but I was clear then 2 months later my throat is speckled with Barrett's. That is one of the reasons I am so worried about the ILD diagnoses. Until 3 months ago my lungs felt fine. Now I have a hacking cough with lots of sputum, my lungs hurt, I cough up blood and upon awaking in the morning I feel like I'm drowning. I have read that ILD is a slow progressive disease as well but it doesn't seem to be that way with me. I read that ILD can be caused by GERD and auto immune diseases. Does any one know if this is

accurate? They haven't put me on oxygen but I am having a whole bunch of other tests done next week. Does any one have a guess as to how much lung function I will lose before they put me on oxygen? Any information about ILD that anyone can share would help. My doctor is always so in and out that I feel totally adrift. Thank you.

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ILD is Interstial Lung Disease There are approx. 200 forms of ILD. The most common is Idiopathic Pulmonary Fibrosis. Others can explain it a lot better than I can and I'm sure they will respond. Keep asking questions, Ginny! I'm still learning too. Ken R.

Subject: Re: ILD/Pulm. FibrosisTo: Breathe-Support Date: Saturday, February 28, 2009, 4:04 PM

What is ILD? Ginny, IPF6-08,COPD5- 98,Richmond, VA

From: "rpickel1 (AT) msn (DOT) com" <rpickel1 (AT) msn (DOT) com>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comSent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 4:13:12 AMSubject: Re: ILD/Pulm.. Fibrosis

Hi Margaret,

This site is so wonderful. I can't believe I have gotten so many nice replies so quickly. My name is Sunny and I used to live up to it but the last few years have slowed down my laugh track. My pulmdoc found the glass last year but didn't think it worth doing a biopsy since I did not have any symptoms and had 100% lung function. I will find out next week if there are more of the nodules than before. I have seen the ground glass nodules mentioned on some med sites. I think maybe webmd but I had googled ILD and looked at a lot of sites. They did tell me I had COPD last year and put me on oxygen but I improved so much in 5 months he took me off it. My O2 at rest is about 98% but drops significantly when walking. I think he is just waiting for the CT and sputum reports before he starts any treatment. Since I am already on Prednisone and that seems to be the first line of

treatment for ILD I think he's just being conservative then again he only spent about 2 minutes with me and seemed confused and a little angry when I started crying after the diagnoses. When he said I had already lost 60% lung capacity I was freaked. My disease seems to be progressing much more rapidly then usual. I can deal with the shortness of breath much easier than I can the chest pain and coughing. I am hoping he will do something about that when I see him next. I am also considering getting a second opinion since my doc doesn't seem to have time or compassion. Don't hesitate to write if you think I can help in any way.

Sunny

From: Margaret McConnell

Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 10:21 PM

To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Re: ILD/Pulm. Fibrosis

Hi 'rpickel', do you have another name?

You are the first that I have heard use the term 'ground glass' on this board, that was one of my first PH symptoms. I was diagnosed with pneumonitis in 97, PH in 06, COPD and PF most recently. I was at 43% lung capacity the first time they gave me a PFT. They called my pulmonologist immediately and sent me home with oxygen 24/7 right then at 2lt. We say that we are all different but I would say from my experience that you need oxygen NOW, especially with all of your other physical problems. Our bodies need the oxygen to function and heal properly. I do not have GERD or any autoimmune disease but others on the board do and can tell you more about them..

I am relatively new on the board but can tell you that there is alot of information to be found for your questions. I hope they give you oxygen on your next visit, I have a nifty liquid oxygen back pack. I was very active before also.. I would also add not to rush or be in a hurry, allow extra time and go slow, breath in through your nose and out through pursed lips so that you don't end up gasping like a fish out of water...like I did...

Margaret

From: "rpickel1 (AT) msn (DOT) com" <rpickel1 (AT) msn (DOT) com>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comSent: Friday, February 27, 2009 8:05:21 PMSubject: ILD/Pulm. Fibrosis

I have just been told by my pulmonologist that I have Idiopathic Interstitial Lung Disease and that I have lost 60% of my lung function. I also have ground glasslike nodules in my lungs and much scarring. I am a 51 year old female who until 4 years ago had an extremely active life. Then it all started with seizures, headaches, joint pain and fatigue. After many, many tests I was told I had Lupus then shortly after was diagnosed with Sjogrens then arthritis. Lots of auto immune stuff. I have been on Prednisone every since.. Without it the pain is just too much. My sed rate and CRP are always a mess. Then my right thyroid grew a huge benign tumor which had to be removed and now have to take synthroid for that. I have had 4 gastric bleeding hPylori bacteria ulcers in the past four years. I am currently recovering from the last. Scope showed the ulcer gone but the

bacteria still very much there. The the gastro doc told me I have Barrett's Disease probably caused by my GERD which they can not seem to get under control. The odds are 1 in 100 people's Barrett's will turn cancerous. There is no treatment once that happens. But then again out of the millions of people in the US only 100,000 get Barrett's. It is supposed to be a slow progressive disease but I was clear then 2 months later my throat is speckled with Barrett's. That is one of the reasons I am so worried about the ILD diagnoses. Until 3 months ago my lungs felt fine. Now I have a hacking cough with lots of sputum, my lungs hurt, I cough up blood and upon awaking in the morning I feel like I'm drowning. I have read that ILD is a slow progressive disease as well but it doesn't seem to be that way with me. I read that ILD can be caused by GERD and auto immune diseases. Does any one know if this is

accurate? They haven't put me on oxygen but I am having a whole bunch of other tests done next week. Does any one have a guess as to how much lung function I will lose before they put me on oxygen? Any information about ILD that anyone can share would help. My doctor is always so in and out that I feel totally adrift. Thank you.

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ILD is Interstial Lung Disease There are approx. 200 forms of ILD. The most common is Idiopathic Pulmonary Fibrosis. Others can explain it a lot better than I can and I'm sure they will respond. Keep asking questions, Ginny! I'm still learning too. Ken R.

Subject: Re: ILD/Pulm. FibrosisTo: Breathe-Support Date: Saturday, February 28, 2009, 4:04 PM

What is ILD? Ginny, IPF6-08,COPD5- 98,Richmond, VA

From: "rpickel1 (AT) msn (DOT) com" <rpickel1 (AT) msn (DOT) com>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comSent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 4:13:12 AMSubject: Re: ILD/Pulm.. Fibrosis

Hi Margaret,

This site is so wonderful. I can't believe I have gotten so many nice replies so quickly. My name is Sunny and I used to live up to it but the last few years have slowed down my laugh track. My pulmdoc found the glass last year but didn't think it worth doing a biopsy since I did not have any symptoms and had 100% lung function. I will find out next week if there are more of the nodules than before. I have seen the ground glass nodules mentioned on some med sites. I think maybe webmd but I had googled ILD and looked at a lot of sites. They did tell me I had COPD last year and put me on oxygen but I improved so much in 5 months he took me off it. My O2 at rest is about 98% but drops significantly when walking. I think he is just waiting for the CT and sputum reports before he starts any treatment. Since I am already on Prednisone and that seems to be the first line of

treatment for ILD I think he's just being conservative then again he only spent about 2 minutes with me and seemed confused and a little angry when I started crying after the diagnoses. When he said I had already lost 60% lung capacity I was freaked. My disease seems to be progressing much more rapidly then usual. I can deal with the shortness of breath much easier than I can the chest pain and coughing. I am hoping he will do something about that when I see him next. I am also considering getting a second opinion since my doc doesn't seem to have time or compassion. Don't hesitate to write if you think I can help in any way.

Sunny

From: Margaret McConnell

Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 10:21 PM

To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Re: ILD/Pulm. Fibrosis

Hi 'rpickel', do you have another name?

You are the first that I have heard use the term 'ground glass' on this board, that was one of my first PH symptoms. I was diagnosed with pneumonitis in 97, PH in 06, COPD and PF most recently. I was at 43% lung capacity the first time they gave me a PFT. They called my pulmonologist immediately and sent me home with oxygen 24/7 right then at 2lt. We say that we are all different but I would say from my experience that you need oxygen NOW, especially with all of your other physical problems. Our bodies need the oxygen to function and heal properly. I do not have GERD or any autoimmune disease but others on the board do and can tell you more about them..

I am relatively new on the board but can tell you that there is alot of information to be found for your questions. I hope they give you oxygen on your next visit, I have a nifty liquid oxygen back pack. I was very active before also.. I would also add not to rush or be in a hurry, allow extra time and go slow, breath in through your nose and out through pursed lips so that you don't end up gasping like a fish out of water...like I did...

Margaret

From: "rpickel1 (AT) msn (DOT) com" <rpickel1 (AT) msn (DOT) com>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comSent: Friday, February 27, 2009 8:05:21 PMSubject: ILD/Pulm. Fibrosis

I have just been told by my pulmonologist that I have Idiopathic Interstitial Lung Disease and that I have lost 60% of my lung function. I also have ground glasslike nodules in my lungs and much scarring. I am a 51 year old female who until 4 years ago had an extremely active life. Then it all started with seizures, headaches, joint pain and fatigue. After many, many tests I was told I had Lupus then shortly after was diagnosed with Sjogrens then arthritis. Lots of auto immune stuff. I have been on Prednisone every since.. Without it the pain is just too much. My sed rate and CRP are always a mess. Then my right thyroid grew a huge benign tumor which had to be removed and now have to take synthroid for that. I have had 4 gastric bleeding hPylori bacteria ulcers in the past four years. I am currently recovering from the last. Scope showed the ulcer gone but the

bacteria still very much there. The the gastro doc told me I have Barrett's Disease probably caused by my GERD which they can not seem to get under control. The odds are 1 in 100 people's Barrett's will turn cancerous. There is no treatment once that happens. But then again out of the millions of people in the US only 100,000 get Barrett's. It is supposed to be a slow progressive disease but I was clear then 2 months later my throat is speckled with Barrett's. That is one of the reasons I am so worried about the ILD diagnoses. Until 3 months ago my lungs felt fine. Now I have a hacking cough with lots of sputum, my lungs hurt, I cough up blood and upon awaking in the morning I feel like I'm drowning. I have read that ILD is a slow progressive disease as well but it doesn't seem to be that way with me. I read that ILD can be caused by GERD and auto immune diseases. Does any one know if this is

accurate? They haven't put me on oxygen but I am having a whole bunch of other tests done next week. Does any one have a guess as to how much lung function I will lose before they put me on oxygen? Any information about ILD that anyone can share would help. My doctor is always so in and out that I feel totally adrift. Thank you.

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Hi Ken R., I'm really loving this site also. How long since you were diagnosed with Pulmonary Fibrosis? It's been only 8 months for me. I'm learning so much on this site that my doctor has never even mentioned. When I told him I looked up PF on google and it said that the average age to live was 3 to 5 years, he just looked at me and said, well if you take better care of yourself you could live for years and years. Yet, he gave me a copy of my last catscan taken 2 weeks ago, and it compared my progression from last June and it didn't look good to me at all. What a jerk he is! Let me know your status with this disease. God bless, Ginny Ginny, IPF6-08,COPD5-98,Richmond,VA

To: Breathe-Support Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2009 4:39:03 AMSubject: Re: ILD/Pulm. Fibrosis

ILD is Interstial Lung Disease There are approx. 200 forms of ILD. The most common is Idiopathic Pulmonary Fibrosis. Others can explain it a lot better than I can and I'm sure they will respond. Keep asking questions, Ginny! I'm still learning too. Ken R.

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What is ILD? Ginny, IPF6-08,COPD5- 98,Richmond, VA

From: "rpickel1 (AT) msn (DOT) com" <rpickel1 (AT) msn (DOT) com>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comSent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 4:13:12 AMSubject: Re: ILD/Pulm.. Fibrosis

Hi Margaret,

This site is so wonderful. I can't believe I have gotten so many nice replies so quickly. My name is Sunny and I used to live up to it but the last few years have slowed down my laugh track.. My pulmdoc found the glass last year but didn't think it worth doing a biopsy since I did not have any symptoms and had 100% lung function. I will find out next week if there are more of the nodules than before. I have seen the ground glass nodules mentioned on some med sites. I think maybe webmd but I had googled ILD and looked at a lot of sites. They did tell me I had COPD last year and put me on oxygen but I improved so much in 5 months he took me off it. My O2 at rest is about 98% but drops significantly when walking. I think he is just waiting for the CT and sputum reports before he starts any treatment. Since I am already on Prednisone and that seems to be the first line of

treatment for ILD I think he's just being conservative then again he only spent about 2 minutes with me and seemed confused and a little angry when I started crying after the diagnoses. When he said I had already lost 60% lung capacity I was freaked. My disease seems to be progressing much more rapidly then usual. I can deal with the shortness of breath much easier than I can the chest pain and coughing. I am hoping he will do something about that when I see him next. I am also considering getting a second opinion since my doc doesn't seem to have time or compassion. Don't hesitate to write if you think I can help in any way.

Sunny

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Subject: Re: ILD/Pulm. Fibrosis

Hi 'rpickel', do you have another name?

You are the first that I have heard use the term 'ground glass' on this board, that was one of my first PH symptoms. I was diagnosed with pneumonitis in 97, PH in 06, COPD and PF most recently. I was at 43% lung capacity the first time they gave me a PFT. They called my pulmonologist immediately and sent me home with oxygen 24/7 right then at 2lt. We say that we are all different but I would say from my experience that you need oxygen NOW, especially with all of your other physical problems. Our bodies need the oxygen to function and heal properly. I do not have GERD or any autoimmune disease but others on the board do and can tell you more about them..

I am relatively new on the board but can tell you that there is alot of information to be found for your questions. I hope they give you oxygen on your next visit, I have a nifty liquid oxygen back pack. I was very active before also.. I would also add not to rush or be in a hurry, allow extra time and go slow, breath in through your nose and out through pursed lips so that you don't end up gasping like a fish out of water...like I did...

Margaret

From: "rpickel1 (AT) msn (DOT) com" <rpickel1 (AT) msn (DOT) com>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comSent: Friday, February 27, 2009 8:05:21 PMSubject: ILD/Pulm. Fibrosis

I have just been told by my pulmonologist that I have Idiopathic Interstitial Lung Disease and that I have lost 60% of my lung function. I also have ground glasslike nodules in my lungs and much scarring. I am a 51 year old female who until 4 years ago had an extremely active life. Then it all started with seizures, headaches, joint pain and fatigue. After many, many tests I was told I had Lupus then shortly after was diagnosed with Sjogrens then arthritis. Lots of auto immune stuff. I have been on Prednisone every since.. Without it the pain is just too much.. My sed rate and CRP are always a mess. Then my right thyroid grew a huge benign tumor which had to be removed and now have to take synthroid for that. I have had 4 gastric bleeding hPylori bacteria ulcers in the past four years. I am currently recovering from the last. Scope showed the ulcer gone but the

bacteria still very much there. The the gastro doc told me I have Barrett's Disease probably caused by my GERD which they can not seem to get under control. The odds are 1 in 100 people's Barrett's will turn cancerous. There is no treatment once that happens. But then again out of the millions of people in the US only 100,000 get Barrett's. It is supposed to be a slow progressive disease but I was clear then 2 months later my throat is speckled with Barrett's. That is one of the reasons I am so worried about the ILD diagnoses. Until 3 months ago my lungs felt fine. Now I have a hacking cough with lots of sputum, my lungs hurt, I cough up blood and upon awaking in the morning I feel like I'm drowning. I have read that ILD is a slow progressive disease as well but it doesn't seem to be that way with me. I read that ILD can be caused by GERD and auto immune diseases. Does any one know if this is

accurate? They haven't put me on oxygen but I am having a whole bunch of other tests done next week. Does any one have a guess as to how much lung function I will lose before they put me on oxygen? Any information about ILD that anyone can share would help. My doctor is always so in and out that I feel totally adrift. Thank you.

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Reiterating what Pink Joyce said. Coughing up blood and pain in the

lungs are not symptoms of PF. They call for immediate medical attention

whether at the doctor's or ER.

> > >

> > > rpickel (what is your name?)

> > > Wow, you have been through so much. I'm sorry for the plates

> you

> > have to juggle. One good thing tho' is you are in the right place

> for

> > support and info.

> > > In my case, it wasn't the lung function lost it was that the

> oxygen

> > level in my blood was not enough...our levels should be above 90-

> 91

> > all the time. O2 level is measured with an oximeter and many of

> us

> > have our own. They can be purchased for $65 at

> > > www.portablenebs. com they are FDA approved and work well. It's

> > the yellow one. It just clamps on a finger...

> > > SOB (shortness of breath) is certainly a sign you may need 02.

> > > Are you seeing a pulmonologist?

> > > In what State do you live?

> > > Others will reply who have more knowledge than I do.

> > > But welcome, I'll watch for your posts...

> > > MamaSher; 70, IPF 3-06, OR.

> > > Nasturtiums

> > > Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!

> > >

> > > ILD/Pulm. Fibrosis

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I have just been told by my pulmonologist that I have

> Idiopathic

> > Interstitial Lung Disease and that I have lost 60% of my lung

> > function. I also have ground glasslike nodules in my lungs and

> much

> > scarring. I am a 51 year old female who until 4 years ago had an

> > extremely active life. Then it all started with seizures,

> headaches,

> > joint pain and fatigue. After many, many tests I was told I had

> > Lupus then shortly after was diagnosed with Sjogrens then

> arthritis.

> > Lots of auto immune stuff. I have been on Prednisone every since.

> > Without it the pain is just too much. My sed rate and CRP are

> always

> > a mess. Then my right thyroid grew a huge benign tumor which had

> to

> > be removed and now have to take synthroid for that. I have had 4

> > gastric bleeding hPylori bacteria ulcers in the past four years.

> I

> > am currently recovering from the last. Scope showed the ulcer

> gone

> > but the bacteria still very much there. The the gastro doc told

> me I

> > have Barrett's Disease probably caused by my GERD which they can

> not

> > seem to get under control. The odds are 1 in 100 people's

> Barrett's

> > will turn cancerous. There is no treatment once that happens. But

> > then again out of the millions of people in the US only 100,000

> get

> > Barrett's. It is supposed to be a slow progressive disease but I

> was

> > clear then 2 months later my throat is speckled with Barrett's.

> That

> > is one of the reasons I am so worried about the ILD diagnoses.

> Until

> > 3 months ago my lungs felt fine. Now I have a hacking cough with

> > lots of sputum, my lungs hurt, I cough up blood and upon awaking

> in

> > the morning I feel like I'm drowning. I have read that ILD is a

> slow

> > progressive disease as well but it doesn't seem to be that way

> with

> > me. I read that ILD can be caused by GERD and auto immune

> diseases.

> > Does any one know if this is accurate? They haven't put me on

> oxygen

> > but I am having a whole bunch of other tests done next week. Does

> > any one have a guess as to how much lung function I will lose

> before

> > they put me on oxygen? Any information about ILD that anyone can

> > share would help. My doctor is always so in and out that I feel

> > totally adrift. Thank you.

> > >

> >

>

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> Hi, RPickle :) Most patients have lost at least 50% of their lung

capacity by the time they are diagnosed with PF :( Is that because

we wait too long to see a doctor, thinking we are just out of shape

or we are just tired....or maybe the doctor we see just doesn't pick

up on it right away...no one knows why it takes so long to get

diagnosed. Maybe it is just that we do not feel the symptoms until

we have had the disease for a while and lose our lung function...I

know it took three months for me to get diagnosed because medical

standards require you to see a primary care doc, then with sob

symtoms he sends you to a cardiologist for heart testing and if they

find nothing it is on to a pulmonologist for lung testing. My lung

doctor was excellent, but every test kept coming back normal even

though my pulse ox was below 90 and I could barely speak a complete

sentence. Not until he had done three Cat Scans (all normal) did he

finally order a High Resolution Cat Scan, which showed the scarring

and we went on to an open lung biopsy which gave the final answer of

PF.

You have a lot of autoimmune issues of which PF fits right in there!

They keep trying to blame my PF on my having Crohns disease, another

autoimmune disease....however my GI says he has never, ever seen

Crohns causing PF or any other lung problem in his whole career....so

I don't really think it is. Once you get one autoimmune it is

possible to develop others...as you and I both have found out. It

just means our autoimmune system is out of whack and again, no one

knows how to make it work right again either. Most people with PF or

any other inflammatory disease will always have a high Sed Rate. It

is in itself a marker for high much inflammatory processes are going

on inside you. With a patient with Rheumatoid Artheritis, a Sed Rate

abnormally high, means their arthritis is very active at that point

and is why their pain level is higher than normal, etc.

I sure wish you didn't have to suffer with all this, just know you

are in good company here and there are a lot of people who have

traveled this road ahead of you, that can answer and lend you

support !

>

> t

> From: rpickel1@...

> Subject: ILD/Pulm. Fibrosis

> To: Breathe-Support

> Date: Saturday, February 28, 2009, 12:05 AM

>

>

>

> I have just been told by my pulmonologist that I have Idiopathic

Interstitial Lung Disease and that I have lost 60% of my lung

function.  I also have ground glasslike nodules in my lungs and much

scarring.  I am a 51 year old female who until 4 years ago had an

extremely active life.  Then it all started with seizures, headaches,

joint pain and fatigue.  After many, many tests I was told I had

Lupus then shortly after was diagnosed with Sjogrens then arthritis. 

Lots of auto immune stuff. I have been on Prednisone every since. 

Without it the pain is just too much. My sed rate and CRP are always

a mess.  Then my right thyroid grew a huge benign tumor which had to

be removed and now have to take synthroid for that.  I have had 4

gastric bleeding hPylori bacteria ulcers in the past four years.  I

am currently recovering from the last.  Scope showed the ulcer gone

but the bacteria still very much there.  The the gastro doc told me I

have

> Barrett's Disease probably caused by my GERD which they can not

seem to get under control.  The odds are 1 in 100 people's Barrett's

will turn cancerous. There is no treatment once that happens.  But

then again out of the millions of people in the US only 100,000 get

Barrett's.  It is supposed to be a slow progressive disease but I was

clear then 2 months later my throat is speckled with Barrett's.  That

is one of the reasons I am so worried about the ILD diagnoses.  Until

3 months ago my lungs felt fine.  Now I have a hacking cough with

lots of sputum, my lungs hurt, I cough up blood and upon awaking in

the morning I feel like I'm drowning.  I have read that ILD is a slow

progressive disease as well but it doesn't seem to be that way with

me.  I read that ILD can be caused by GERD and auto immune diseases. 

Does any one know if this is accurate?  They haven't put me on oxygen

but I am having a whole bunch of other tests done next week.  Does

> any one have a guess as to how much lung function I will lose

before they put me on oxygen?  Any information about ILD that anyone

can share would help.  My doctor is always so in and out that I feel

totally adrift.  Thank you.

>

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> Hi, RPickle :) Most patients have lost at least 50% of their lung

capacity by the time they are diagnosed with PF :( Is that because

we wait too long to see a doctor, thinking we are just out of shape

or we are just tired....or maybe the doctor we see just doesn't pick

up on it right away...no one knows why it takes so long to get

diagnosed. Maybe it is just that we do not feel the symptoms until

we have had the disease for a while and lose our lung function...I

know it took three months for me to get diagnosed because medical

standards require you to see a primary care doc, then with sob

symtoms he sends you to a cardiologist for heart testing and if they

find nothing it is on to a pulmonologist for lung testing. My lung

doctor was excellent, but every test kept coming back normal even

though my pulse ox was below 90 and I could barely speak a complete

sentence. Not until he had done three Cat Scans (all normal) did he

finally order a High Resolution Cat Scan, which showed the scarring

and we went on to an open lung biopsy which gave the final answer of

PF.

You have a lot of autoimmune issues of which PF fits right in there!

They keep trying to blame my PF on my having Crohns disease, another

autoimmune disease....however my GI says he has never, ever seen

Crohns causing PF or any other lung problem in his whole career....so

I don't really think it is. Once you get one autoimmune it is

possible to develop others...as you and I both have found out. It

just means our autoimmune system is out of whack and again, no one

knows how to make it work right again either. Most people with PF or

any other inflammatory disease will always have a high Sed Rate. It

is in itself a marker for high much inflammatory processes are going

on inside you. With a patient with Rheumatoid Artheritis, a Sed Rate

abnormally high, means their arthritis is very active at that point

and is why their pain level is higher than normal, etc.

I sure wish you didn't have to suffer with all this, just know you

are in good company here and there are a lot of people who have

traveled this road ahead of you, that can answer and lend you

support !

>

> t

> From: rpickel1@...

> Subject: ILD/Pulm. Fibrosis

> To: Breathe-Support

> Date: Saturday, February 28, 2009, 12:05 AM

>

>

>

> I have just been told by my pulmonologist that I have Idiopathic

Interstitial Lung Disease and that I have lost 60% of my lung

function.  I also have ground glasslike nodules in my lungs and much

scarring.  I am a 51 year old female who until 4 years ago had an

extremely active life.  Then it all started with seizures, headaches,

joint pain and fatigue.  After many, many tests I was told I had

Lupus then shortly after was diagnosed with Sjogrens then arthritis. 

Lots of auto immune stuff. I have been on Prednisone every since. 

Without it the pain is just too much. My sed rate and CRP are always

a mess.  Then my right thyroid grew a huge benign tumor which had to

be removed and now have to take synthroid for that.  I have had 4

gastric bleeding hPylori bacteria ulcers in the past four years.  I

am currently recovering from the last.  Scope showed the ulcer gone

but the bacteria still very much there.  The the gastro doc told me I

have

> Barrett's Disease probably caused by my GERD which they can not

seem to get under control.  The odds are 1 in 100 people's Barrett's

will turn cancerous. There is no treatment once that happens.  But

then again out of the millions of people in the US only 100,000 get

Barrett's.  It is supposed to be a slow progressive disease but I was

clear then 2 months later my throat is speckled with Barrett's.  That

is one of the reasons I am so worried about the ILD diagnoses.  Until

3 months ago my lungs felt fine.  Now I have a hacking cough with

lots of sputum, my lungs hurt, I cough up blood and upon awaking in

the morning I feel like I'm drowning.  I have read that ILD is a slow

progressive disease as well but it doesn't seem to be that way with

me.  I read that ILD can be caused by GERD and auto immune diseases. 

Does any one know if this is accurate?  They haven't put me on oxygen

but I am having a whole bunch of other tests done next week.  Does

> any one have a guess as to how much lung function I will lose

before they put me on oxygen?  Any information about ILD that anyone

can share would help.  My doctor is always so in and out that I feel

totally adrift.  Thank you.

>

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Boy I wish I could send your GI guy some literature.

I also have Crohn's and PF. Both are caused by my Hermansky-Pudlak Syndrome. Crohn's occurs in about 15 to 20 percent of HPS'ers, and PF occurs in everyone with gene type 1 or 4. There is a link, at least with our disorder.

Doctors often talk about disease pathways - the dominos you follow to get to the symptom. Perhaps our disease processes are similar.

I've probably asked you this before, but you don't have nystagmus do you?

When we're doing the medical trade shows one thing we're trying to beat into the heads of the docs is that you don't have to be blonde and light skinned to have albinism. They always think of albinism as being the stereotype, and thus a lot of our folks with normal skin and hair pigmentation, and only slight eye involvement, get missed.

Hermansky-Pudlak Syndrome albinism 02 / PF o6

> > t> > From: rpickel1@ rpickel1@> > Subject: ILD/Pulm. Fibrosis> > To: Breathe-Support > > Date: Saturday, February 28, 2009, 12:05 AM> > > > > > > > I have just been told by my pulmonologist that I have Idiopathic > Interstitial Lung Disease and that I have lost 60% of my lung > function. I also have ground glasslike nodules in my lungs and much > scarring. I am a 51 year old female who until 4 years ago had an > extremely active life. Then it all started with seizures, headaches, > joint pain and fatigue. After many, many tests I was told I had > Lupus then shortly after was diagnosed with Sjogrens then arthritis. > Lots of auto immune stuff. I have been on Prednisone every since. > Without it the pain is just too much. My sed rate and CRP are always > a mess. Then my right thyroid grew a huge benign tumor which had to > be removed and now have to take synthroid for that. I have had 4 > gastric bleeding hPylori bacteria ulcers in the past four years. I > am currently recovering from the last. Scope showed the ulcer gone > but the bacteria still very much there. The the gastro doc told me I > have> > Barrett's Disease probably caused by my GERD which they can not > seem to get under control. The odds are 1 in 100 people's Barrett's > will turn cancerous. There is no treatment once that happens. But > then again out of the millions of people in the US only 100,000 get > Barrett's. It is supposed to be a slow progressive disease but I was > clear then 2 months later my throat is speckled with Barrett's. That > is one of the reasons I am so worried about the ILD diagnoses. Until > 3 months ago my lungs felt fine. Now I have a hacking cough with > lots of sputum, my lungs hurt, I cough up blood and upon awaking in > the morning I feel like I'm drowning. I have read that ILD is a slow > progressive disease as well but it doesn't seem to be that way with > me. I read that ILD can be caused by GERD and auto immune diseases. > Does any one know if this is accurate? They haven't put me on oxygen > but I am having a whole bunch of other tests done next week. Does> > any one have a guess as to how much lung function I will lose > before they put me on oxygen? Any information about ILD that anyone > can share would help. My doctor is always so in and out that I feel > totally adrift. Thank you.> >>

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Boy I wish I could send your GI guy some literature.

I also have Crohn's and PF. Both are caused by my Hermansky-Pudlak Syndrome. Crohn's occurs in about 15 to 20 percent of HPS'ers, and PF occurs in everyone with gene type 1 or 4. There is a link, at least with our disorder.

Doctors often talk about disease pathways - the dominos you follow to get to the symptom. Perhaps our disease processes are similar.

I've probably asked you this before, but you don't have nystagmus do you?

When we're doing the medical trade shows one thing we're trying to beat into the heads of the docs is that you don't have to be blonde and light skinned to have albinism. They always think of albinism as being the stereotype, and thus a lot of our folks with normal skin and hair pigmentation, and only slight eye involvement, get missed.

Hermansky-Pudlak Syndrome albinism 02 / PF o6

> > t> > From: rpickel1@ rpickel1@> > Subject: ILD/Pulm. Fibrosis> > To: Breathe-Support > > Date: Saturday, February 28, 2009, 12:05 AM> > > > > > > > I have just been told by my pulmonologist that I have Idiopathic > Interstitial Lung Disease and that I have lost 60% of my lung > function. I also have ground glasslike nodules in my lungs and much > scarring. I am a 51 year old female who until 4 years ago had an > extremely active life. Then it all started with seizures, headaches, > joint pain and fatigue. After many, many tests I was told I had > Lupus then shortly after was diagnosed with Sjogrens then arthritis. > Lots of auto immune stuff. I have been on Prednisone every since. > Without it the pain is just too much. My sed rate and CRP are always > a mess. Then my right thyroid grew a huge benign tumor which had to > be removed and now have to take synthroid for that. I have had 4 > gastric bleeding hPylori bacteria ulcers in the past four years. I > am currently recovering from the last. Scope showed the ulcer gone > but the bacteria still very much there. The the gastro doc told me I > have> > Barrett's Disease probably caused by my GERD which they can not > seem to get under control. The odds are 1 in 100 people's Barrett's > will turn cancerous. There is no treatment once that happens. But > then again out of the millions of people in the US only 100,000 get > Barrett's. It is supposed to be a slow progressive disease but I was > clear then 2 months later my throat is speckled with Barrett's. That > is one of the reasons I am so worried about the ILD diagnoses. Until > 3 months ago my lungs felt fine. Now I have a hacking cough with > lots of sputum, my lungs hurt, I cough up blood and upon awaking in > the morning I feel like I'm drowning. I have read that ILD is a slow > progressive disease as well but it doesn't seem to be that way with > me. I read that ILD can be caused by GERD and auto immune diseases. > Does any one know if this is accurate? They haven't put me on oxygen > but I am having a whole bunch of other tests done next week. Does> > any one have a guess as to how much lung function I will lose > before they put me on oxygen? Any information about ILD that anyone > can share would help. My doctor is always so in and out that I feel > totally adrift. Thank you.> >>

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Boy I wish I could send your GI guy some literature.

I also have Crohn's and PF. Both are caused by my Hermansky-Pudlak Syndrome. Crohn's occurs in about 15 to 20 percent of HPS'ers, and PF occurs in everyone with gene type 1 or 4. There is a link, at least with our disorder.

Doctors often talk about disease pathways - the dominos you follow to get to the symptom. Perhaps our disease processes are similar.

I've probably asked you this before, but you don't have nystagmus do you?

When we're doing the medical trade shows one thing we're trying to beat into the heads of the docs is that you don't have to be blonde and light skinned to have albinism. They always think of albinism as being the stereotype, and thus a lot of our folks with normal skin and hair pigmentation, and only slight eye involvement, get missed.

Hermansky-Pudlak Syndrome albinism 02 / PF o6

> > t> > From: rpickel1@ rpickel1@> > Subject: ILD/Pulm. Fibrosis> > To: Breathe-Support > > Date: Saturday, February 28, 2009, 12:05 AM> > > > > > > > I have just been told by my pulmonologist that I have Idiopathic > Interstitial Lung Disease and that I have lost 60% of my lung > function. I also have ground glasslike nodules in my lungs and much > scarring. I am a 51 year old female who until 4 years ago had an > extremely active life. Then it all started with seizures, headaches, > joint pain and fatigue. After many, many tests I was told I had > Lupus then shortly after was diagnosed with Sjogrens then arthritis. > Lots of auto immune stuff. I have been on Prednisone every since. > Without it the pain is just too much. My sed rate and CRP are always > a mess. Then my right thyroid grew a huge benign tumor which had to > be removed and now have to take synthroid for that. I have had 4 > gastric bleeding hPylori bacteria ulcers in the past four years. I > am currently recovering from the last. Scope showed the ulcer gone > but the bacteria still very much there. The the gastro doc told me I > have> > Barrett's Disease probably caused by my GERD which they can not > seem to get under control. The odds are 1 in 100 people's Barrett's > will turn cancerous. There is no treatment once that happens. But > then again out of the millions of people in the US only 100,000 get > Barrett's. It is supposed to be a slow progressive disease but I was > clear then 2 months later my throat is speckled with Barrett's. That > is one of the reasons I am so worried about the ILD diagnoses. Until > 3 months ago my lungs felt fine. Now I have a hacking cough with > lots of sputum, my lungs hurt, I cough up blood and upon awaking in > the morning I feel like I'm drowning. I have read that ILD is a slow > progressive disease as well but it doesn't seem to be that way with > me. I read that ILD can be caused by GERD and auto immune diseases. > Does any one know if this is accurate? They haven't put me on oxygen > but I am having a whole bunch of other tests done next week. Does> > any one have a guess as to how much lung function I will lose > before they put me on oxygen? Any information about ILD that anyone > can share would help. My doctor is always so in and out that I feel > totally adrift. Thank you.> >>

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I'm with on this one too as I've run across quite a few people

with Crohn's and PF. Now, I can't tell you which causes which or whether

they are both caused by the same thing anymore than I can tell answer

the chicken or the egg or describe the relationship between GERD and PF.

In fact, I'm not sure we can say any autoimmune causes PF as opposed to

perhaps them both being caused by the same underlying cause, since we

know so little about most autoimmune causes and PF causes. What we do

know is that often when we treat one the other tends to stop progressing

or progress slower. Just one thing we know for sure and that is the

frequency with which many of these diseases occur in the same person is

far greater than a coincidental occurence.

> > > t

> > > From: rpickel1@ rpickel1@

> > > Subject: ILD/Pulm. Fibrosis

> > > To: Breathe-Support

> > > Date: Saturday, February 28, 2009, 12:05 AM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I have just been told by my pulmonologist that I have Idiopathic

> > Interstitial Lung Disease and that I have lost 60% of my lung

> > function. I also have ground glasslike nodules in my lungs and much

> > scarring. I am a 51 year old female who until 4 years ago had an

> > extremely active life. Then it all started with seizures, headaches,

> > joint pain and fatigue. After many, many tests I was told I had

> > Lupus then shortly after was diagnosed with Sjogrens then arthritis.

> > Lots of auto immune stuff. I have been on Prednisone every since.

> > Without it the pain is just too much. My sed rate and CRP are always

> > a mess. Then my right thyroid grew a huge benign tumor which had to

> > be removed and now have to take synthroid for that. I have had 4

> > gastric bleeding hPylori bacteria ulcers in the past four years. I

> > am currently recovering from the last. Scope showed the ulcer gone

> > but the bacteria still very much there. The the gastro doc told me I

> > have

> > > Barrett's Disease probably caused by my GERD which they can not

> > seem to get under control. The odds are 1 in 100 people's Barrett's

> > will turn cancerous. There is no treatment once that happens. But

> > then again out of the millions of people in the US only 100,000 get

> > Barrett's. It is supposed to be a slow progressive disease but I was

> > clear then 2 months later my throat is speckled with Barrett's. That

> > is one of the reasons I am so worried about the ILD diagnoses. Until

> > 3 months ago my lungs felt fine. Now I have a hacking cough with

> > lots of sputum, my lungs hurt, I cough up blood and upon awaking in

> > the morning I feel like I'm drowning. I have read that ILD is a slow

> > progressive disease as well but it doesn't seem to be that way with

> > me. I read that ILD can be caused by GERD and auto immune diseases.

> > Does any one know if this is accurate? They haven't put me on oxygen

> > but I am having a whole bunch of other tests done next week. Does

> > > any one have a guess as to how much lung function I will lose

> > before they put me on oxygen? Any information about ILD that anyone

> > can share would help. My doctor is always so in and out that I feel

> > totally adrift. Thank you.

> > >

> >

>

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I'm with on this one too as I've run across quite a few people

with Crohn's and PF. Now, I can't tell you which causes which or whether

they are both caused by the same thing anymore than I can tell answer

the chicken or the egg or describe the relationship between GERD and PF.

In fact, I'm not sure we can say any autoimmune causes PF as opposed to

perhaps them both being caused by the same underlying cause, since we

know so little about most autoimmune causes and PF causes. What we do

know is that often when we treat one the other tends to stop progressing

or progress slower. Just one thing we know for sure and that is the

frequency with which many of these diseases occur in the same person is

far greater than a coincidental occurence.

> > > t

> > > From: rpickel1@ rpickel1@

> > > Subject: ILD/Pulm. Fibrosis

> > > To: Breathe-Support

> > > Date: Saturday, February 28, 2009, 12:05 AM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I have just been told by my pulmonologist that I have Idiopathic

> > Interstitial Lung Disease and that I have lost 60% of my lung

> > function. I also have ground glasslike nodules in my lungs and much

> > scarring. I am a 51 year old female who until 4 years ago had an

> > extremely active life. Then it all started with seizures, headaches,

> > joint pain and fatigue. After many, many tests I was told I had

> > Lupus then shortly after was diagnosed with Sjogrens then arthritis.

> > Lots of auto immune stuff. I have been on Prednisone every since.

> > Without it the pain is just too much. My sed rate and CRP are always

> > a mess. Then my right thyroid grew a huge benign tumor which had to

> > be removed and now have to take synthroid for that. I have had 4

> > gastric bleeding hPylori bacteria ulcers in the past four years. I

> > am currently recovering from the last. Scope showed the ulcer gone

> > but the bacteria still very much there. The the gastro doc told me I

> > have

> > > Barrett's Disease probably caused by my GERD which they can not

> > seem to get under control. The odds are 1 in 100 people's Barrett's

> > will turn cancerous. There is no treatment once that happens. But

> > then again out of the millions of people in the US only 100,000 get

> > Barrett's. It is supposed to be a slow progressive disease but I was

> > clear then 2 months later my throat is speckled with Barrett's. That

> > is one of the reasons I am so worried about the ILD diagnoses. Until

> > 3 months ago my lungs felt fine. Now I have a hacking cough with

> > lots of sputum, my lungs hurt, I cough up blood and upon awaking in

> > the morning I feel like I'm drowning. I have read that ILD is a slow

> > progressive disease as well but it doesn't seem to be that way with

> > me. I read that ILD can be caused by GERD and auto immune diseases.

> > Does any one know if this is accurate? They haven't put me on oxygen

> > but I am having a whole bunch of other tests done next week. Does

> > > any one have a guess as to how much lung function I will lose

> > before they put me on oxygen? Any information about ILD that anyone

> > can share would help. My doctor is always so in and out that I feel

> > totally adrift. Thank you.

> > >

> >

>

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Oops I was just in a little shock. We had just returned from a trip to Oregon

soooo... Anyway I am 51 and see Dr. Elmer in Spokane. The called yesterday to

tell me that my sputum showed vast amounts of infection and put me on an

antibiotic. 7 pills $170 with my insurance. Had my CT today and was shocked

when they offered me a cd of the test and I can pick up the radiology report

tomorrow. Things have sure changed from the old days when they were so

secretive. Joy I would love to meet for lunch sometime. Just e-mail me and I

will give you my number. Sunny rt , sparrow4@... wrote:

>

> Quoting " sunnypickel@... " :

>

> > Joyce, I live in a tiny town called Rathdrum Oregon.  My doctors are

> > in Spokane WA but we are closer to Coeur d' Alene, ID.  How do you

> > find a teaching hospital and how do you approach them?  Also how much

> > does an oximeter cost.  We me not working and all the medical bills

> > we are in very poor financial shape.  I applied for Social Security 3

> > years ago and after 2 denials am waiting on a judge.  They say it

> > might take another 17 months but with this new diagnoses things may

> > go quicker.  Do I ask my pulmodoc for a referral for a second opinion

> > or my primary?  I do not want to make my current pulmo guy mad as it

> > took me sooooooooooo long just to see him the first time.  You are

> > correc the my pulse ox is okay at rest but moving around changes that

> > drastically.  I also wonder if in the morning or if lying in certain

> > positions makes things worse.  I wake up drowning out of breath and

> > my lungs hurt so bad. It takes quite a while of just sitting up

> > before I can draw very much breath at all.  It seems like the pain in

> > my lungs is much worse lying on my right side.  Is this my

> > imagination do you think?

> >

> Sunny, I don't mean to tell you where you live but I live in Blanchard,

> Idaho. Not far from Rathdrum, Idaho and near Coeur'd'Alene. You said

> that you live in Oregon. My pulmo dr. is in Spokane. His name is

> Puruckherr. Who do you go to? I was just diagnosed Jan.6, so I am also

> new to this list. As far as I can tell the nearest IPF center is at the

> University of Wahington near Seattle. I lived on Port Orchard Wa. for

> 40 years. My children, grandchildren and greatgrandchild all live

> around there. I am planning on selling my house and moving back there.

> This summer I hope. I need to be near my children now. Since we are so

> close maybe we can meet sometine. Did you say how old you are? Beverley

> Joy

>

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Joyce, I think the pain I am having is probably caused by the massive infection

they found when they checked my sputum. Anyway now I am on antibiotics so

hopefully it will get better. I had my lung ct today and they gave me a cd of

the test and I will pick up the narative tomorrow. My friend has an oximeter

and we checked my O2. If I am sitting still or only walk a short distance I am

okay but after that my SATS drop quickly. I am still uncertain why my doc

didn't put me on O2 but I did find out today that he is taking the month of

March off so I won't get to talk with him until April. It is very frustrating.

Sunny IPF 03/09

>

> From: sparrow4@...

> Subject: Re: Re: ILD/Pulm. Fibrosis

> To: Breathe-Support

> Date: Saturday, February 28, 2009, 3:11 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Quoting " sunnypickel@ ymail.com " :

>

> > Joyce, I live in a tiny town called Rathdrum Oregon.  My doctors are

> > in Spokane WA but we are closer to Coeur d' Alene, ID.  How do you

> > find a teaching hospital and how do you approach them?  Also how much

> > does an oximeter cost.  We me not working and all the medical bills

> > we are in very poor financial shape.  I applied for Social Security 3

> > years ago and after 2 denials am waiting on a judge.  They say it

> > might take another 17 months but with this new diagnoses things may

> > go quicker.  Do I ask my pulmodoc for a referral for a second opinion

> > or my primary?  I do not want to make my current pulmo guy mad as it

> > took me sooooooooooo long just to see him the first time.  You are

> > correc the my pulse ox is okay at rest but moving around changes that

> > drastically.  I also wonder if in the morning or if lying in certain

> > positions makes things worse.  I wake up drowning out of breath and

> > my lungs hurt so bad. It takes quite a while of just sitting up

> > before I can draw very much breath at all.  It seems like the pain in

> > my lungs is much worse lying on my right side.  Is this my

> > imagination do you think?

> >

> Sunny, I don't mean to tell you where you live but I live in Blanchard, Idaho.

Not far from Rathdrum, Idaho and near Coeur'd'Alene. You said that you live in

Oregon. My pulmo dr. is in Spokane. His name is Puruckherr. Who do you go to? I

was just diagnosed Jan.6, so I am also new to this list. As far as I can tell

the nearest IPF center is at the University of Wahington near Seattle. I lived

on Port Orchard Wa. for 40 years. My children, grandchildren and greatgrandchild

all live around there. I am planning on selling my house and moving back there.

This summer I hope. I need to be near my children now. Since we are so close

maybe we can meet sometine. Did you say how old you are? Beverley Joy

>

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