Guest guest Posted October 17, 2002 Report Share Posted October 17, 2002 you may think that because risperdal and ssri's are fda approved thery are 'safe' i wish i was joking but the same design technology used for nerve gases is the basis of the mode of operation of these fluorinated meds. the fda is malign. my thoughts on fluorinated meds. check out the link 'fluorinated meds in the list. http://members.tripod.com/mueller_ranges/links/compendium.html you will be able to taper of the meds as you get the hang of enzymes and more truely remedying supplemtns like low rda b6, tmg, magensium etc. using the search function on this board will open up a wealth of information. > I know this group is Autism and Enzymes not OCD and Enzymes, but I'm > hoping someone can help me out... > > I ordered and began giving my 9 yo daughter (dx OCD/tics) AFP and No > Fenol about two weeks ago with two or so meals/day. She has been CF > for almost three years, never GF (though limited this) since we > discovered that dairy dramatically increased OCD levels and caused > her to tic for several days after eating it. More recently I had > begun to suspect art. colors and maybe phenols also affected her > symptom level. She also takes an SSRI and Risperdal for impulsivity > and tics. > > I didn't wildly challenge the dairy, just a few shreds of cheese a > couple of times on her soy-cheese pizza, otherwise her diet has > remained the same and also there have been no med changes for several > months. > > For the first few days, she was overall better, calm and happy with > little OCD and no hyperactivity. The past four days she has been > bouncing off the walls, very activated, lots of OCD " bad thoughts " > and difficulty settling down to sleep. Also yesterday she came home > with the red ring around her anus some of you have talked about (she > was so uncomfortable that she let me look...) She hasn't had this > problem since she was a baby in diapers. > > To make matters worse, we are leaving Saturday for a week of travel. > I'm tempted to just stop the enzymes and try again once we get home. > BTW, she refuses to let me open the capsules and put the enzymes in > her mouth or on a bite of food, never mind dissolved in a drink. > > The reason I wanted to try enzymes is because at her age, I think the > handwriting is on the wall re diet restrictions and I was hoping they > would allow her to cheat here and there without the dramatic increase > in OCD/tics that dairy usually causes. > > Sorry this is so long...any suggestions what I should do at this > point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2002 Report Share Posted October 18, 2002 Hi Kathy, I am new in this group and don't know much about enzymes. I have just started using them myself on my very food intolerant daughter. Her food symptoms are depression, lethargy, mood swings, teariness, paranoia, foggy brain etc. Anyway I just thought I'd suggest that if diet is working well maybe your daughter will be willing to stick to it even through teenage years. For help in coping with and understanding sensitivity to phenolic foods, additives, etc, the " failsafe " diet is excellent. The website is www.fedupwithfoodadditives.info This diet really helps get those kind of sensitivities under control. Many people find a range of mental health symptoms might no longer need medication if the diet is right. There is also an email discussion group. Good Luck, Kate P m@y..., " kathnkel " <kathylr@a...> wrote: > > Sorry this is so long...any suggestions what I should do at this > point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2002 Report Share Posted October 18, 2002 > For the first few days, she was overall better, calm and happy with > little OCD and no hyperactivity. The past four days she has been > bouncing off the walls, very activated, lots of OCD " bad thoughts " > and difficulty settling down to sleep. Also yesterday she came home > with the red ring around her anus some of you have talked about (she > was so uncomfortable that she let me look...) She hasn't had this > problem since she was a baby in diapers. Yeast can aggravate tics, especially tics related to the throat, and does frequently appear as a red ring around the anus. Consider a yeast treatment. http://www.autismchannel.net/dana/yeast.htm No-Fenol enzyme does contribute to killing yeast, so it may be die off symptoms also. If you add a yeast killer, that might make the die off go more quickly, altho symptoms might worsen for a few days. > > To make matters worse, we are leaving Saturday for a week of travel. > I'm tempted to just stop the enzymes and try again once we get home. You might want to do this, because one thing enzymes do, is allow for better absorption of both foods AND medications. So you might need to adjust the amount of medication she uses. Some people have discovered they can discontinue medications because the medications were being used to counteract food reactions, and once the food reactions were gone, the medications were making things worse. Or just that the medications were working better than before, so the dosage needed reducing. So you might want to stop the enzymes until you return, so you can spend time working on dosages and things. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2002 Report Share Posted October 18, 2002 You can consider this the Enzymes and Anything group, if you like. I was thinking the same things as the other replies. The No-Fenol may be related to yeast die-off if your daughter has any. Also, her medications may be better absorbed...so her body is actually metabolizing a slightly higher dose that she may not need. Are her reactions similar to a higher dose of the the meds? I take an SSRI and other med too, and reduced that by about a third after starting enzymes to achieve the same level of comfort. Another thought is additional chemicals such as the failsafe or feingold diets deal with. Enzymes may not help much with those synthetic materials. You may want to start by dropping the No-Fenol in half at least and see if that doesn't help initially. Two capsules may be way more than necessary. Some people find that a little No-Fenol goes a long way. Another thing for hyperness is adding magnesium. She may have a deficiency as is very common in the general population. Hope your trip goes well. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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