Guest guest Posted November 18, 2007 Report Share Posted November 18, 2007 There has been an ongoing exchange of posts encouraging Donna to " Just Do It " . Although many of the posts have been helpful and encouraging, some have been... less so. We are all different and we are all responsible for ourselves. If someone feels strongly that they can't just do it, we need to respect that. One of the points that Donna makes is that there are instances of people getting worse and she doesn't want to be one of them. This is a valid point -- there ARE instances of people getting worse. In my observation, the ones who do get worse on chelation fall into two groups: 1) the ones who don't follow the protocol and 2) the ones that have not addressed adrenal/thyroid/digestion/yeast problems. In most cases, the problems that caused their worsening could have been prevented if more time had been spent in preparation. Whether time spent in fully understanding the protocol or time spent in preparing the body. The chelation protocol may be relatively simple, but the support regimen is not. And trying to determine what one's own underlying problems are is also not easy. Having to make all of that work within the context of one's own life can be very difficult. We all have our own unique obstacles. Some obstacles may seem inconsequential to others, but that doesn't make them inconsequential to the person for whom it is an obstacle. I am in a similar position to Donna, in that I have been a member of this group for almost a year but haven't managed to get started yet. I did do the hair test, which indicated a possible adrenal problem. Well, it's been a comedy of errors pursuing that but I've finally gotten back the results of a 4x/day cortisol test and found that not only do I have an adrenal problem, it's pretty severe. Severe enough that I believe if I had just gone ahead and started chelation I would probably be in quite a bit of trouble now. For the last few months I have been beating myself up for not going forward, telling myself that I was just making excuses, that I didn't really need to get the test first, and so on. But still I was immobilized by my need to know. When I got the results last week, I was very thankful that I hadn't managed to overcome my fear and get started. Now I deeply regret all of the self-stress I've given myself about stalling. In light of the test results, it wasn't stalling, it was my survival instinct at work. I believe that we none of us come to this board with all of our faculties intact. In my experience, it is hard to tell the difference between an unreasonable fear and a screaming instinct. Perhaps, the more unreasonable the fear the more likely it is instinct trying to be heard? In any case, I urge caution when it comes to recommending an unprepared start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2007 Report Share Posted November 18, 2007 Excellent post with many excellent points. I'm sorry if I have come across as too pushy, I just recall a mom from the Autism-Mercury group saying she needed a " cyber kick in the butt " to get started with chelation. I also remember Andy saying that too many parents put off starting chelation because they were trying to " fix " everything else, before they got started. He said you can work on things while you are chelating. So I was hoping that maybe that's what she needed, was a little nudge, but I was feeling kind of bad, wondering if I was pushing too much, so sorry if I did so, Donna. And I should have probably clarified this more, but I didn't mean that she would never have to address her other issues, I just meant that she could try a round or two and see how she does, and maybe she would feel better on round and this would help her to be able to do whatever else she needed to do. And as you pointed out, the final decision is our own, and nobody else knows our exact circumstances affecting our life, and figuring out what to do can be very complex, and following our instincts is probably very good advice. So once again, I am sorry if I came across as too pushy and/or offended anyone.-----------Jackie In frequent-dose-chelation yankeeexile wrote: There has been an ongoing exchange of posts encouraging Donna to " Just Do It " . Although many of the posts have been helpful and encouraging, some have been... less so. We are all different and we are all responsible for ourselves. If someone feels strongly that they can't just do it, we need to respect that. One of the points that Donna makes is that there are instances of people getting worse and she doesn't want to be one of them. This is a valid point -- there ARE instances of people getting worse. In my observation, the ones who do get worse on chelation fall into two groups: 1) the ones who don't follow the protocol and 2) the ones that have not addressed adrenal/thyroid/digestion/yeast problems. In most cases, the problems that caused their worsening could have been prevented if more time had been spent in preparation. Whether time spent in fully understanding the protocol or time spent in preparing the body. The chelation protocol may be relatively simple, but the support regimen is not. And trying to determine what one's own underlying problems are is also not easy. Having to make all of that work within the context of one's own life can be very difficult. We all have our own unique obstacles. Some obstacles may seem inconsequential to others, but that doesn't make them inconsequential to the person for whom it is an obstacle. I am in a similar position to Donna, in that I have been a member of this group for almost a year but haven't managed to get started yet. I did do the hair test, which indicated a possible adrenal problem. Well, it's been a comedy of errors pursuing that but I've finally gotten back the results of a 4x/day cortisol test and found that not only do I have an adrenal problem, it's pretty severe. Severe enough that I believe if I had just gone ahead and started chelation I would probably be in quite a bit of trouble now. For the last few months I have been beating myself up for not going forward, telling myself that I was just making excuses, that I didn't really need to get the test first, and so on. But still I was immobilized by my need to know. When I got the results last week, I was very thankful that I hadn't managed to overcome my fear and get started. Now I deeply regret all of the self-stress I've given myself about stalling. In light of the test results, it wasn't stalling, it was my survival instinct at work. I believe that we none of us come to this board with all of our faculties intact. In my experience, it is hard to tell the difference between an unreasonable fear and a screaming instinct. Perhaps, the more unreasonable the fear the more likely it is instinct trying to be heard? In any case, I urge caution when it comes to recommending an unprepared start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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