Re: Hi I'm new

[Guest guest]

Hi, THE ONE.

I am hoping by now you will find that eveyone here will take whatever

time you need to talk. Ask questions, whine, cry, rejoice in the

good times (and we all need to find something to rejoice in), share

our joys, disappointments and frustrations. Just jump right in and

let us know what's happening!

" Puppy " B.

> Hi

>

> this is my first lupus site so to speak that i'm leaving a messege

> at. Not sure what the correct protocal is. i am interested in

> talking to someone, anyone who has some time.

>

> i have lupus

>

> THE ONE

[Guest guest]

Hi, THE ONE.

I am hoping by now you will find that eveyone here will take whatever

time you need to talk. Ask questions, whine, cry, rejoice in the

good times (and we all need to find something to rejoice in), share

our joys, disappointments and frustrations. Just jump right in and

let us know what's happening!

" Puppy " B.

> Hi

>

> this is my first lupus site so to speak that i'm leaving a messege

> at. Not sure what the correct protocal is. i am interested in

> talking to someone, anyone who has some time.

>

> i have lupus

>

> THE ONE

[Guest guest]

this is my first lupus site so to speak that i'm leaving a messege > at. Not sure what the correct protocal is. i am interested in > talking to someone, anyone who has some time.>

Wow! I'm in the same boat. This is also my first lupus site and I'm a little overwhelmed with how many members there are. I belong to only one other group (not a lupus group) and it only has 17 members. So I'm hoping to be able to just jump right in!

Sonnia

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Thanks for the advice. I became an expert on SAD when I thought I had

it. For a year and a half I did light therapy -- I owned two visors and

a light box. I took walks with my baby in the pram almost every day. I

went to the gym, kept up with exercise, no matter how awful I felt.

When the sun was out I was there, sitting in it for hours on end.

Bright light helps me some, but not a lot -- it never lifted the

symptoms to a very significant degree. But there's definitely been a

difference between my functioning in the summer and the winter.

If there are some problems with my thyroid, I hope they will right

themselves with chelation. What's weird is how the depression hit me

from out of the blue. I was a stay-at-home mum and I was pretty happy

with that; I had a good workout at the gym 3x a week and had never been

fitter in my life. To my knowledge I had no medical problems. In a way

this was what led me to mercury as a possibility eventually -- I

was " struck " only 2 months after those amalgams were put in.

I've been on the Paleolithic Diet for a year and a half as well. I do

not eat grains, and limited dairy -- usually some raw milk cheese and

occasionally some yogurt. My body loves this way of eating but I've

never noticed any major changes from it, apart from just feeling

better. I used to have IBS and that has never been a problem since I

changed my diet. I can't see any indications that I have any allergies

or autoimmune problems.

I am a member of a SAD forum and I look at all these people who, like

me, do what they can to treat their symptoms but suffer every winter. I

wonder how much a part mercury really plays in SAD. I suspect maybe it

can be a big contributor in some cases.

[Guest guest]

> If there are some problems with my thyroid, I hope they will right

> themselves with chelation.

I wouldn't wait if I were you. Andy says again and again in Amalgam Illness

that you will feel

MUCH MUCH better if you take xyz or treat xyz.

Maybe some baseline testing would be in order for you LL. Thyroid, adrenals and

female sex

hormones. And, I'd do saliva.

HTH,

[Guest guest]

> Maybe some baseline testing would be in order for you LL. Thyroid,

adrenals and female sex

> hormones. And, I'd do saliva.

I think these are all good ideas. I do have cortisol dysfunction but

that came from the antidepressant withdrawal, and they helped me get

that in hand on the psych med list.

I've been to my GP several times for tests. They're pretty useless.

The only thyroid they would test is TSH, and they say they don't test

things like estrogen at all unless they suspect cancer. I tried this

route (NHS in the UK) because otherwise I'd have to have the tests

done privately. I looked into getting the sex hormones tested and

that on its own costs a lot. I don't want to sound like I'm making

money a barrier to everything, but it is a problem at the moment, and

we've been very stretched as it is since I started supplements, and

then things like DMSA; we've drained our savings by paying for things

like all the light therapy kit, and amalgam removal. It's hard to

know what to do. Mainstream doctors should be in the business of

healing people but I suppose most people on this list have also

discovered that they do not have a clue.

I forgot to mention that I developed a problem with having very heavy

periods, during the time the amalgams were in. I learned to control

it by juicing about 6 carrots a day. When the amalgams came out, the

problem went away. Another important indicator I think. And one that

would lead me to believe that if I did have tests done, sex hormones

would be what I'd look at. I just wish someone could tell me that if

I did something like take progesterone, the sleep/SAD problems would

go away. Not as simple as that

[Guest guest]

>

> > If there are some problems with my thyroid, I hope they will

right

> > themselves with chelation.

>

>

> I wouldn't wait if I were you. Andy says again and again in

Amalgam Illness that you will feel

> MUCH MUCH better if you take xyz or treat xyz.

>

> Maybe some baseline testing would be in order for you LL. Thyroid,

adrenals and female sex

> hormones. And, I'd do saliva.

>

Hi Lou;-)

I agree, you should investigate yr thyroids and adrenals. Waiting for

them to right themselves is wishful thinking and you can speed the

process up by taking action. I have been investigating these for the

last few months, and I must admit it is difficult to grasp, but now

after reading, I understand enough to know where and what to start

trying. I have started a few simple support herbs and already my

temperature has stabilised and is slowly rising. Simply increasing my

salt intake, liquorice tea and supplementing kelp did this. This is a

great place to start investigations:

" Adrenal Fatigue : the 21st century stress syndrome " by L

I will post a picture of my temp graph on Herb allure forum for you.

Sunshine

[Guest guest]

Welcome Lou,

I can't back it up with anything but I do believe that SAD is part of

the toxic picture. My niece suffers from it every year. She's always

been amalgam-free but the SAD started after braces. A few years ago I

talked her into trying melatonin at night, which helps with her

sleeping. Recently I had her add GABA and it seems to be making a

positive difference.

I have been taking GABA at night since June and I find that it makes a

big difference in keeping me non-depressive. I've suffered with

depression for years and have tried something like 18 different

anti-depressants, but I find that the GABA is more effective than any

of them. Andy does say something about this in AI. I can't remember

all of it, but I remember he said that if you respond to SSRIs then

you may respond positively to GABA. It's quite nice to get all the

benefits of an anti-depressant without the side effects!

You didn't mention what supplements you are on. Do they include GABA?

And melatonin?

Also, it seems to me that your chelator dosing may be somewhat high.

It has been said many times that higher isn't better. Or faster. You

also mention Algin - what is that? My own health got disastrously

worse 2 years ago after a chlorella/cilantro detox attempt (before I'd

heard about Andy and learned that they are not recommended).

And I have to agree with others about investigating adrenal/thyroid

issues sooner rather than later, especially since an imbalance of

either can cause depression, as well as interfere with sleep. Another

thing that's been stressed around here is that it's important to treat

adrenals before thyroid, unless the adrenals have been tested and are

fine (rarely the case). There are some self-tests that can be done to

give yourself some idea about adrenal/thyroid status. IMHO a good

place to start is Dean's site:

http://www.livingnetwork.co.za/healingnetwork/adrenals_thyroid.html

Remember, in addition to whatever is at the root of your health

problems, the health problems themselves cause a lot of stress. And

stress wears on the adrenals. So even if the mercury isn't causing an

adrenal problem, the stress can, and your adrenals won't right

themselves while you remain stressed. I'm speaking from personal

experience on this one.

[Guest guest]

> I just wish someone could tell me that if

> I did something like take progesterone, the sleep/SAD problems would

> go away. Not as simple as that

>

No, it's usually not simple, unfortunately. And with hormones, they are linked

to one another

like interlocking arms and if one system is out of balance, it tugs and strains

the others. I

don't see how one can look at one system, say thyroid, without thinking of the

others, say

adrenals and sex hormones.

Also, IME, I had hidden food intolerances and gut infections that were messing

with my

hormones as well. Straining my adrenals, and low thyroid symptoms. Who knew?

Well, not

me until I was tested.

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Wow there are so many things to consider. Everything in the body is

linked in a way and the best holistic treatments take this into

consideration, I agree.

I've had quite a lot of time to think about all my symptoms. The

depression started just two months after the amalgams were put in and

it hasn't really changed its character all that time. I felt

perfectly healthy before then. My hunch is that my symptoms are being

caused by mercury putting things out of whack so to speak. I don't

think I have candida overgrowth, parasites, or anything else like

that which takes time to develop, though obviously I can't be 100%

certain.

I've had a look at a link posted to me by Sunshine which has some

general tests for estrogen dominance, thyroid and adrenal problems.

My symptoms match the adrenal exhaustion profile remarkably well.

Sometimes my cortisol gets high and I take herbs for that, but I

think sometimes it is low as well. It's dysfunctional because of what

the antidepressant did to me. But it's possible that I still need

some adrenal support and I am looking into finding a glandular

supplement.

If that doesn't work I'll look into something else. Maybe by then I

will have the means to get a test done.

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Wow there are so many things to consider. Everything in the body is

linked in a way and the best holistic treatments take this into

consideration, I agree.

I've had quite a lot of time to think about all my symptoms. The

depression started just two months after the amalgams were put in and

it hasn't really changed its character all that time. I felt

perfectly healthy before then. My hunch is that my symptoms are being

caused by mercury putting things out of whack so to speak. I don't

think I have candida overgrowth, parasites, or anything else like

that which takes time to develop, though obviously I can't be 100%

certain.

I've had a look at a link posted to me by Sunshine which has some

general tests for estrogen dominance, thyroid and adrenal problems.

My symptoms match the adrenal exhaustion profile remarkably well.

Sometimes my cortisol gets high and I take herbs for that, but I

think sometimes it is low as well. It's dysfunctional because of what

the antidepressant did to me. But it's possible that I still need

some adrenal support and I am looking into finding a glandular

supplement.

If that doesn't work I'll look into something else. Maybe by then I

will have the means to get a test done.