Re: Term to define folks from Latino America

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Some Hipano-Americano

[Guest guest]

In Spanish we say: " latinoamericanos " to refer all those people

from countries down south the Rio Grande

At 10:24 AM 4/5/2002 -0800, you wrote:

Greetings,

What would be the most appropiate term to define people from Latino

America?

Would it be Hispanics or Latinos?

Thank You,

o Astorga

Namaste!

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Lot depends on where you are and who you are talking to. Some prefer to be called 'latinos' . Just a thought

MacNaughton, MPH

-----Original Message-----From: Pilar Parra [mailto:pap2@...]Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 12:45 PM Subject: Re: [ ] Term to define folks from Latino AmericaIn Spanish we say:"latinoamericanos" to refer all those people from countries down south the Rio GrandeAt 10:24 AM 4/5/2002 -0800, you wrote:

Greetings, What would be the most appropiate term to define people from Latino America? Would it be Hispanics or Latinos? Thank You, o AstorgaNamaste!

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I would just call them " americanos del sur " or South Americans. We are

" americanos del norte " . But South Americans could be considered both Hispanic or

Latino. Hispanic refers to anyone from a Spanish-speaking country. A Latino

would be someone from one of the countries that took the Spanish language from

Latin. So to me, Latino and Hispanic would be semejantes. (similar).

>>> manchego99@... 04/05/02 12:24PM >>>

Greetings,

What would be the most appropriate term to define people from Latino America?

Would it be Hispanics or Latinos?

Thank You,

o Astorga

Namaste!

---------------------------------

[Guest guest]

It is a many decades conversation.......puts us all together under one term and you eraase all of us. I do not have the answer. Have been involved in this realm for many decades. Suerte finding a term.

[Guest guest]

I vote for latinoamericanos. This is how we call ourselves and therefore

is the best term to use. I have always thought that hispano is a word a

lot more commonly used in this part of the world, than in Latin America.

It is one of those terms we have adopted to distinguish ethnicities. I

(respectfully, obviously) disagree with Vivianne below because if you

make the distinction 'americano del sur' from 'americanos del norte',

where do you place Mexicans, Central Americans, and the Caribbean

people? SHe's correct however in the use of the term Latino for anyone

speaking a language based on latin. In essence, Italians would be

latinos, too, and in fact, they consider themselves such.

Grace Robiou

Vivianne Hoskinson

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migrant_health_rese

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I would just call them " americanos del sur " or South Americans. We are

" americanos del norte " . But South Americans could be considered both

Hispanic or Latino. Hispanic refers to anyone from a Spanish-speaking

country. A Latino would be someone from one of the countries that took

the Spanish language from Latin. So to me, Latino and Hispanic would be

semejantes. (similar).

>>> manchego99@... 04/05/02 12:24PM >>>

Greetings,

What would be the most appropriate term to define people from Latino

America?

Would it be Hispanics or Latinos?

Thank You,

o Astorga

Namaste!

---------------------------------

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Barbara Cote' @ (616)393-5775

Persons from Latin America in our county in Michigan have said that they

prefer to be called Latino rather than Hispanic as they like to be

discrimated from Mexican migrants. We asked the question of what they

consider themselves ( " Hispanic " or " Mexican American " or " Mexican " ) on our

health survey, but we are tabulating those replies now.

[Guest guest]

To follow along with your joke, Pres. Bush seemed to use Latinos more than Gore....

[Guest guest]

Here is another twist to this conversation: What do you call people of mexican heritage born in the U.S.?

[Guest guest]

I'm from Costa Rica, I define myself as " Latino " .

Thank you for asking ..... would like to know what the final " tally " is.

Leda I. Garside, RN, BSN

¡Salud! Services

Tuality Healthcare

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migrant_healt

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Greetings,

What would be the most appropiate term to define people from Latino

America?

Would it be Hispanics or Latinos?

Thank You,

o Astorga

Namaste!

---------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Isn't it that Republicans use " Hispanic " and Democrats use " Latino " ?

That's what I was taught in civics.................... Just kidding.

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Wilton C. Kennedy, MMSc, PA-C

Assistant Professor

Physician Assistant Program

College of Health Sciences

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I was gratified to be able to answer promptly. I said I don't know.

Mark Twain

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In the olden times we wanted an identity (60's)so the term Chicano came up,

when we were niether accepted by Mexico as mexicans or here as Americans. I

later was informed by my father that in the thirties the same term was used.

I consider myself a chicana.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your great answer

[Guest guest]

That's what the focus groups tell him to use....

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Wilton C. Kennedy, MMSc, PA-C

Assistant Professor

Physician Assistant Program

College of Health Sciences

920 S. Jefferson Street

PO Box 13186

Roanoke, Va, 24031-3186

wkennedy@...

tel: 540-985-8256

fax: 540-224-4551

cell: 540-520-2683

I was gratified to be able to answer promptly. I said I don't know.

Mark Twain

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This is a very interesting identity question that I have worked on

sporadically for awhile. For that reason, I am really

interested in what other people have to say here.

FYI: My research with youth (13-18 yrs) born in Florida and Texas to

Mexican parents shows that the majority consider themselves

" chicanos " if they are born here, regardless of their knowledge

of the " chicano movement " and political roots to the

word. Others consider themselves Mexican Americans; in fact, the

Mexican heritage students at the USF and UF (Univ of Florida) unanimously

chose Mexican American Student Association as their name, not anything

related to Chicano or MECHA.

Interested in what others' observations/experiences are

A

At 05:25 PM 4/8/2002 -0400, you wrote:

Here is

another twist to this conversation: What do you call people of

mexican heritage born in the U.S.?

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How many generations do you have to go through before you are considered

to be just an American??

Palacios wrote:

Mexican

Americans

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Usually by the third generation, you do not speak your grandparents'

language. However, identity is a highly personal issue.

A

At 04:57 PM 4/8/2002 -0500, you wrote:

How many generations do you have to

go through before you are considered to be just an American??

Palacios wrote:

Mexican

Americans

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as a mexican born in the u.s. it depends on who i am talking to and the context. i use hispanic to mixed audiences of people i don't know. i uses chicano to other mexicanos of my cohort andpolitical background. i use latinos with groups that inlcude hispanics and anglos and we are discussing people from mexico and central america who are in the u.s. i use latino americanos to mean anyone south of the panama canal. for me the issue is here or away, age and audience.del

-----Original Message-----From: Abdoni3@... [mailto:Abdoni3@...]Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [ ] Term to define folks from Latino AmericaHere is another twist to this conversation: What do you call people of mexican heritage born in the U.S.? To Post a message, send it to: GroupsTo Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: -unsubscribe

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Really, now. Do we really want to be considered just Americans.

Irish-Americans, Italian-Americans, German-Americans, Dutch-Americans, etc.

--- when they want to --- still are proud and insist on annotating their

ancestry. Why can't Mexican-Americans? I don't want to forget where my

parents and grandparents came from and I certainly don't feel like I need

to to melt away my ethnicity, my culture, my history....me.

How many generations do you have to go through before you are considered to

be just an American??

Palacios wrote:  Mexican Americans

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this is a personal decision.

-----Original Message-----From: [mailto:hughes@...]Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [ ] Term to define folks from Latino AmericaHow many generations do you have to go through before you are considered to be just an American?? Palacios wrote: Mexican Americans

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Good answer! Thanks -N

-----Original Message-----From: Del [mailto:dgarcia@...]Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 5:10 PM Subject: RE: [ ] Term to define folks from Latino America

as a mexican born in the u.s. it depends on who i am talking to and the context. i use hispanic to mixed audiences of people i don't know. i uses chicano to other mexicanos of my cohort andpolitical background. i use latinos with groups that inlcude hispanics and anglos and we are discussing people from mexico and central america who are in the u.s. i use latino americanos to mean anyone south of the panama canal. for me the issue is here or away, age and audience.del

-----Original Message-----From: Abdoni3@... [mailto:Abdoni3@...]Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [ ] Term to define folks from Latino AmericaHere is another twist to this conversation: What do you call people of mexican heritage born in the U.S.? To Post a message, send it to: GroupsTo Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: -unsubscribe

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this is interesting

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if not i will just have to read and delete faster

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Kun

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Though I am not the list owner of this list group, I do run a groups

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hkun wrote:

this is interesting

but my mailbox server just closed on me because i received too many

emails in

one hour

is there anyways i could be excluded from this topic without being

excluded

from the list?

if not i will just have to read and delete faster

best

Kun

Doctoral Candidate of Population and International Health

Harvard School of Public Health

310 779 2223

hkun@...

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Colegas

I think the lesson to be learned here is that identity is very personal

and that although there are some trends (IE the term Latino generally

being more favored than Hispanic) we should be aware and ASK

participants/clients/patients and yes, even FRIENDS, rather than

ASSUME.

OK, I am done beating the now-dead horse.

Saludos

A

At 10:17 AM 4/9/2002 -0400, you wrote:

I

agree with Lupe. From my perspective, Barbara s message generated

more questions than answers on the topic. What exactly is the

research question she is trying to answer through the health survey re:

how people define their origin. Please provide more information so

that we can understand what is happening in Michigan with the perception

of Mexican migrants. Thank you. :-)

Yolanda G. ez, Ph.D.

Researcher

Orange County Health

Department

Orlando, FL

-----Original Message-----

From: guadalupe lamas

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Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 12:46 PM

migrant_health

Subject: Re: [ ] Term to define folks from

Latino America

I have been trying to ignore this message,

but I feel I must reply. Just exactly what is wrong with being thought of

as a " Mexican migrant " ,? and by the way, last time I checked

Mexican's were still considered Hispanics.

Lupe Lamas

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Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 6:27

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Barbara Cote' @ (616)393-5775

Persons from Latin America in our county in Michigan have said that they

prefer to be called Latino rather than Hispanic as they like to be

discrimated from Mexican migrants. We asked the question of what they

consider themselves ( " Hispanic " or " Mexican American " or " Mexican " ) on our

health survey, but we are tabulating those replies now.

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I have been trying to ignore this message, but I feel I must reply. Just exactly what is wrong with being thought of as a "Mexican migrant",? and by the way, last time I checked Mexican's were still considered Hispanics. Lupe Lamas ----- Original Message ----- From: bcote@... Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 6:27 AM Subject: Re: [ ] Term to define folks from Latino America Barbara Cote' @ (616)393-5775Persons from Latin America in our county in Michigan have said that theyprefer to be called Latino rather than Hispanic as they like to bediscrimated from Mexican migrants. We asked the question of what theyconsider themselves ("Hispanic" or "Mexican American" or "Mexican") on ourhealth survey, but we are tabulating those replies now.To Post a message, send it to: GroupsTo Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: -unsubscribe