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I can say I report the same thing. Doing well at first on chelation,

then spending some time feeling run down, with little improvement.

Its' referred to as " the stall period " .

I see your already treating adrenals and thyroid, you may want to see

if this needs some tweaking..since chelation can stress the adrenals

further.

Also I assume you waited the three months post amalgam removal to use ala?

Tension: are you getting enough magnesium? are you treating you gut

for yeast, using probiotics. Yeast can make you a real bear and really

tired out.

Your not using glutathione right? Your also sure your completely

amalgam free? No crowns with amalgam hiding under them. Sorry, if you

have already been this route, but it never hurts to ask.

Melatonin is awesome for getting you to sleep better at night. Start

really low to see how much you need. Lithium orotate can help with

moods and anxiety, especially if you were really low on hair testing.

I also found molybdenum was really good at controlling my moods for a

while.

It could not hurt to do some dmsa only rounds for a while. See if it

calms down some. Get the body burden down, you may be dumping a lot

right now. I could not even take ala until about 16 months post

removal and after I had done 15 round of dmsa only.

I can't tell what Plaquenil and LDN would do. But if is for autoimmune

I am guessing it lowers your immune function and suppresses it. This

is probably not so good when your chelating. Since chelation does that

as well. I don't know the extend of your autoimmune issues but Andy's

book has some suggestion on dealing with that.

I have yet to find a cure for the fatigue that plagues me from time to

time. I will have a few months where I am doing really well, then a

few months where I feel like I was hit with a ton of bricks. This

stall thingy is different for everyone in time frame. It can be a few

months though. Look up those scripts and see if the side effects are

similar...

>

> Hello,

>

> I'm about 7 months out from amalgam removal and have been chelating

> since then regularly with the protocol. My current dose, where i've

> been for quite a while, is 25mg ala and 25mg DMSA every 3 hours, with

> a couple 4 hour doses at night.

>

> For the first several months , i definitely felt better on chelation,

> but the past few rounds that has been reversed. I feel crappy off

> round, and extremely crappy on-round. I should mention that i did see

> some lasting positive effects from chelation, especially after

> including the ALA, mostly brain function related.

>

> I noticed, when everything started to get worse, that i was at the 6

> month post-amalgam removal point, where Andy says to expect to feel

> worse. So, i guess this is normal?

>

> My question is, is there anything i should do differently

> chelation-wise? I have tried a couple rounds with dmps 12mg and ala 25

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>My doctor is big on the

> methylation cycle so has me on things for that, which has helped. > NJ

Hi NJ,

Andy says somewhere in AI that taking methylators can make some people feel

agitated and that you should take them early in the say.

You can check your homocysteine level to see how well you are methylating.

Also, on hair test a low Na/Mg ratio would indicate a need for methylators.

Also, you might need more T3 (some take it with Armour).

DeanSA

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>My doctor is big on the

> methylation cycle so has me on things for that, which has helped. > NJ

Hi NJ,

Andy says somewhere in AI that taking methylators can make some people feel

agitated and that you should take them early in the say.

You can check your homocysteine level to see how well you are methylating.

Also, on hair test a low Na/Mg ratio would indicate a need for methylators.

Also, you might need more T3 (some take it with Armour).

DeanSA

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> I can't tell what Plaquenil and LDN would do. But if is for autoimmune

> I am guessing it lowers your immune function and suppresses it.

Correction. What LDN does is modulate the TH1 and TH2 responses, making them

more

balanced. One of its uses is with AIDS patients, so suppression of immunity is

not at all what

it does.

Other uses are for Crohn's, CFS, autism. It's been great for n.

Nell

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> Also I assume you waited the three months post amalgam removal to

use ala?

Yes, I did

> Tension: are you getting enough magnesium? are you treating you gut

> for yeast, using probiotics. Yeast can make you a real bear and really

> tired out.

My gut seems ok, and i do eat lots of (no sugar, plain) yogurt ans

take probiotics. I hear a lot about yeast problems, but unless there

are some unusual symptoms rather than the obvious, i think that is one

area i'm ok.

> Your not using glutathione right? Your also sure your completely

> amalgam free? No crowns with amalgam hiding under them. Sorry, if you

Yes, completely amalgam free. I was very fortunate to have no crowns

when i started, or root canals , and to find an extremely good

bio-dentist who is very anti-amalgam. 12 amalgams were removed.

I have been using some Immunopro whey, which stimulates the production

of glutathione. Drinking modest amounts of this only seems to make me

feel better, however. I understand (from the Amalgam book) that there

is a big difference between stimulating the body's production of

glutathione and say, taking it intravenously. Is this correct?

> have already been this route, but it never hurts to ask.

> Melatonin is awesome for getting you to sleep better at night. Start

> really low to see how much you need. Lithium orotate can help with

> moods and anxiety, especially if you were really low on hair testing.

> I also found molybdenum was really good at controlling my moods for a

> while.

I'm using molybdenum and melatonin, but i haven't yet tried lithium

orotate. I guess I should, since i was zero lithium on my hair test!

>

>

> I can't tell what Plaquenil and LDN would do. But if is for autoimmune

> I am guessing it lowers your immune function and suppresses it. This

> is probably not so good when your chelating. Since chelation does that

> as well. I don't know the extend of your autoimmune issues but Andy's

> book has some suggestion on dealing with that.

No, LDN and Plaquenil work differently. No way would i take anything

to supress the immune system in my condition....

I'll check the book again for what Andy has to say.

>

> I have yet to find a cure for the fatigue that plagues me from time to

> time. I will have a few months where I am doing really well, then a

> few months where I feel like I was hit with a ton of bricks. This

> stall thingy is different for everyone in time frame. It can be a few

> months though. Look up those scripts and see if the side effects are

> similar...

>

Thanks a lot for the advice, and also to Lanellici for the

clarification on LDN.

NJ

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