Re: Almost continuous dosing of DMSA 6mg?

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>

> Here's my question...what if one were to take 3mg, or 6mg, every 4

> hours continuously for say 1 or 2 months before taking a break?

In pharmacology there is something called the minimum effective dose.

I doubt if chelation has been studied enough to determine if there is

a dose at which there is no effect (I assume there would be). It

would be different in different people at different times during

chelation. Because I don't know what my min effective dose is I like

to chelate at a point where there are some symptoms because that tells

me there is something happening, but the symptoms are tolerable, which

tells me that damage being done by the moving mercury isn't too bad

and hopefully my body can keep up with the repair.

What I'm saying is that if someone wanted to chelate for several

months without breaks they would want to know that they have picked a

dose that is effective.

It

> just seems to me at those low doses the safety factor is increased a

> great deal. I would much prefer a slow gentle constant chelation

> rather than the peaks and valleys of numerous short rounds.

The peaks and valleys aren't too great if the dose is right. Too many

people chelate at a dose where they get side effects at the end of

rounds that are too extreme. That is easily controlled by controlling

the dose.

I still do

> not understand the need to stop a round, unless the dose was just too

> high and is really stressing the body.

Some people feel super fantastic while on rounds and super yucky while

off rounds. Those people might want to chelate for a long period and

take a break for a long period.

Not everyone who chelates is like that.

With DMSA and ALA there is the factor of sleep deprivation for some.

Not everyone can wake up every 3-4 h at night and be able to function

the next day. Many people have to work or go to school and they need

to take the 4 nights of continuous sleep in order to be able to function.

DMPS is a bit different. It is easy to take doses every 6-8 h and

still function for long periods of time (as long as the dose isn't too

high for the person).

To me, a constant low level

> chelation sounds attractive. It really bothers me to know that at the

> end of each round there is free mercury going to my brain, adding to

> the burden that is already there. I would like to avoid that.

>

> Andy's protocol is by far the best and I'm on round 6. Started at 25mg

> 1st round but am on 6mg for this round. Too much of a roller coaster

> at higher doses, greatly exaggerated by starting and stopping rounds.

> I am wondering about a slight modification of it to where rounds are

> extended in length but compensated by much lower doses, with the

> ultimate purpose being to avoid redistributions after numerous rounds.

> 3mg or 6mg continously.

>

> If someone is to answer this question and say I need to do frequent

> rounds, please tell me exactly in detail " why " . If someone is doing

> 3mg or 6mg, no side effects, no stress on the body, no symptoms, then

> why not just keep going?

>

> Thoughts?

>

It would be better for Andy to comment on this because he knows the

experience of others. I think that it's ok to do long rounds at low

doses as long as you have convinced yourself that the dose you have

chosen is effective and as long as you can wake up at night

consistently and manage in whatever your life style demands.

I think that at the end of a long round one would want to take a long

break to give your body some healing time. That is essentially what I

did with DMPS - a very long round and a very long break.

J

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>

> Here's my question...what if one were to take 3mg, or 6mg, every 4

> hours continuously for say 1 or 2 months before taking a break?

TK--- continous chelation is not recommended except for those certain

individuals that do better on round than off round [consistently].

DMSA can be used for up to a couple weeks normally before a break is

normally needed and I would suggest trying this first a number of

times to see how you do during and after the round.

It

> just seems to me at those low doses the safety factor is increased

a

> great deal.

TK--- in general yes but it will depend on the individual.

I would much prefer a slow gentle constant chelation

> rather than the peaks and valleys of numerous short rounds. I still

do

> not understand the need to stop a round, unless the dose was just

too

> high and is really stressing the body.

TK--- Breaks are needed because : of sleep depravation and the

chemical imbalances that can occur during chelation rounds. Sleep

depravation can cause on its own different chemical shifts which can

cause problems - it does vary per individual.

To me, a constant low level

> chelation sounds attractive. It really bothers me to know that at

the

> end of each round there is free mercury going to my brain, adding

to

> the burden that is already there.

TK--- you can minimize this by using an appropriate dose and timing.

I would like to avoid that.

>

> Andy's protocol is by far the best and I'm on round 6. Started at

25mg

> 1st round but am on 6mg for this round. Too much of a roller

coaster

> at higher doses, greatly exaggerated by starting and stopping

rounds.

> I am wondering about a slight modification of it to where rounds

are

> extended in length but compensated by much lower doses, with the

> ultimate purpose being to avoid redistributions after numerous

rounds.

> 3mg or 6mg continously.

TK--- best to stick with the protocol and try doing a longer round a

number of times [dmsa 2 weeks] to see how you do during and after.

>

> If someone is to answer this question and say I need to do frequent

> rounds, please tell me exactly in detail " why " .

TK--- please read the book, Andy index, archives etc for more details

If someone is doing

> 3mg or 6mg, no side effects, no stress on the body, no symptoms,

then

> why not just keep going?

TK--- see above

>

> Thoughts?

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Here's my question...what if one were to take 3mg, or 6mg, every 4

> hours continuously for say 1 or 2 months before taking a break?

TK--- continous chelation is not recommended except for those certain

individuals that do better on round than off round [consistently].

DMSA can be used for up to a couple weeks normally before a break is

normally needed and I would suggest trying this first a number of

times to see how you do during and after the round.

It

> just seems to me at those low doses the safety factor is increased

a

> great deal.

TK--- in general yes but it will depend on the individual.

I would much prefer a slow gentle constant chelation

> rather than the peaks and valleys of numerous short rounds. I still

do

> not understand the need to stop a round, unless the dose was just

too

> high and is really stressing the body.

TK--- Breaks are needed because : of sleep depravation and the

chemical imbalances that can occur during chelation rounds. Sleep

depravation can cause on its own different chemical shifts which can

cause problems - it does vary per individual.

To me, a constant low level

> chelation sounds attractive. It really bothers me to know that at

the

> end of each round there is free mercury going to my brain, adding

to

> the burden that is already there.

TK--- you can minimize this by using an appropriate dose and timing.

I would like to avoid that.

>

> Andy's protocol is by far the best and I'm on round 6. Started at

25mg

> 1st round but am on 6mg for this round. Too much of a roller

coaster

> at higher doses, greatly exaggerated by starting and stopping

rounds.

> I am wondering about a slight modification of it to where rounds

are

> extended in length but compensated by much lower doses, with the

> ultimate purpose being to avoid redistributions after numerous

rounds.

> 3mg or 6mg continously.

TK--- best to stick with the protocol and try doing a longer round a

number of times [dmsa 2 weeks] to see how you do during and after.

>

> If someone is to answer this question and say I need to do frequent

> rounds, please tell me exactly in detail " why " .

TK--- please read the book, Andy index, archives etc for more details

If someone is doing

> 3mg or 6mg, no side effects, no stress on the body, no symptoms,

then

> why not just keep going?

TK--- see above

>

> Thoughts?

>