Re: Problems with 25mg of DMSA

[Guest guest]

, I seemed to hold my own without much disruption from

symptoms on DMSA, working slowly up to 50 mg when I started last

year. When I added ALA, symptoms became very pronounced, and that's

when I decided to get crowns removed to be on the safe side. At

least in my case, the hidden amalgam didn't seem to create chelation

problems until ALA was introduced. It's an insidious thing. When

people say to get everything redone, including crowns, first, it's

probably the best advice. Sadly, it's also terribly expensive.

Joanne

>

> Hi,

> After some days feeling wonderfully well with rounds of 12.5mg of

> DMSA/3h, y increased the dose to 25mg/3h. I am on the sixth round

and

> at the limit of the side effects I can resist or afford.

>

> I wonder to what extent I should be a tough guy (I am not!) and

> continue with 25mg. Some hours of the day are really difficult

> (headache, photofobia, very tired, coldness...)

> but at some other moments (mainly after taking supplements) I feel

> pretty well.

>

> I have some concern about the possibility of some remaining

amalgam at

> root canals or elsewhere. What is the difference between normal

side

> effects increasing the dose and the sickness coming from mercury

> release from hidden amalgam?

>

> I look at these side effects as a confirmation of toxicity. I know

> this is a long path and I would be happy if the only problem is to

> reduce the dose to something between 12.5mg and 25mg of DMSA.

>

> The list of supplements I am using can be found at

> http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=p1dnn2rh-

U1qQajG6Fm8kAw&output=html

>

> Any comments will be very welcome.

> Thanks in advance,

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

, I seemed to hold my own without much disruption from

symptoms on DMSA, working slowly up to 50 mg when I started last

year. When I added ALA, symptoms became very pronounced, and that's

when I decided to get crowns removed to be on the safe side. At

least in my case, the hidden amalgam didn't seem to create chelation

problems until ALA was introduced. It's an insidious thing. When

people say to get everything redone, including crowns, first, it's

probably the best advice. Sadly, it's also terribly expensive.

Joanne

>

> Hi,

> After some days feeling wonderfully well with rounds of 12.5mg of

> DMSA/3h, y increased the dose to 25mg/3h. I am on the sixth round

and

> at the limit of the side effects I can resist or afford.

>

> I wonder to what extent I should be a tough guy (I am not!) and

> continue with 25mg. Some hours of the day are really difficult

> (headache, photofobia, very tired, coldness...)

> but at some other moments (mainly after taking supplements) I feel

> pretty well.

>

> I have some concern about the possibility of some remaining

amalgam at

> root canals or elsewhere. What is the difference between normal

side

> effects increasing the dose and the sickness coming from mercury

> release from hidden amalgam?

>

> I look at these side effects as a confirmation of toxicity. I know

> this is a long path and I would be happy if the only problem is to

> reduce the dose to something between 12.5mg and 25mg of DMSA.

>

> The list of supplements I am using can be found at

> http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=p1dnn2rh-

U1qQajG6Fm8kAw&output=html

>

> Any comments will be very welcome.

> Thanks in advance,

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

No no no , forget about being a tough guy. You're in this for the

long haul, so you've got to be comfortable. Many of us have found if the

dose is just right, we feel better on round, not worse. Which would you

rather do - chelate 2 years being miserable all the time, or 2.5 years

feeling great? Of course, in real life it's not that black and white, but

you get my drift. Smaller, easily-tolerable doses are the way to go. No

toughing it out!

Dean

Problems with 25mg of DMSA

Hi,

After some days feeling wonderfully well with rounds of 12.5mg of

DMSA/3h, y increased the dose to 25mg/3h. I am on the sixth round and

at the limit of the side effects I can resist or afford.

I wonder to what extent I should be a tough guy (I am not!) and

continue with 25mg. Some hours of the day are really difficult

(headache, photofobia, very tired, coldness...)

but at some other moments (mainly after taking supplements) I feel

pretty well.

I have some concern about the possibility of some remaining amalgam at

root canals or elsewhere. What is the difference between normal side

effects increasing the dose and the sickness coming from mercury

release from hidden amalgam?

I look at these side effects as a confirmation of toxicity. I know

this is a long path and I would be happy if the only problem is to

reduce the dose to something between 12.5mg and 25mg of DMSA.

The list of supplements I am using can be found at

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=p1dnn2rh-U1qQajG6Fm8kAw&output=html

Any comments will be very welcome.

Thanks in advance,

[Guest guest]

No no no , forget about being a tough guy. You're in this for the

long haul, so you've got to be comfortable. Many of us have found if the

dose is just right, we feel better on round, not worse. Which would you

rather do - chelate 2 years being miserable all the time, or 2.5 years

feeling great? Of course, in real life it's not that black and white, but

you get my drift. Smaller, easily-tolerable doses are the way to go. No

toughing it out!

Dean

Problems with 25mg of DMSA

Hi,

After some days feeling wonderfully well with rounds of 12.5mg of

DMSA/3h, y increased the dose to 25mg/3h. I am on the sixth round and

at the limit of the side effects I can resist or afford.

I wonder to what extent I should be a tough guy (I am not!) and

continue with 25mg. Some hours of the day are really difficult

(headache, photofobia, very tired, coldness...)

but at some other moments (mainly after taking supplements) I feel

pretty well.

I have some concern about the possibility of some remaining amalgam at

root canals or elsewhere. What is the difference between normal side

effects increasing the dose and the sickness coming from mercury

release from hidden amalgam?

I look at these side effects as a confirmation of toxicity. I know

this is a long path and I would be happy if the only problem is to

reduce the dose to something between 12.5mg and 25mg of DMSA.

The list of supplements I am using can be found at

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=p1dnn2rh-U1qQajG6Fm8kAw&output=html

Any comments will be very welcome.

Thanks in advance,

[Guest guest]

-

This is the way Andy puts it: Side effects are linear in the dose, but

amount of mercury chelated goes like, roughly, the square root.

Basically, that means that if you double the dose, you double the side

effects, but only increase amount of mercury removed by sqrt(2) ~ 1.4,

ie 40%.

So, while I push myself to the limits of my abilities, I keep two things

in mind. One, the rate of improvement is not going to be as dramatic as

my symptoms reflect and two, that I can't allow myself to become any

more tired out than I am able to recover from during the down time

between rounds. If I get too tired, then there is a slow down-hill

slide always signaled by the fact that I start missing doses, find

myself lying on the couch and staring at the wall, and become unable to

rouse myself to go to bed even though I'm doing little more than just

sitting in a stupor. :-/

Still, I'm determined to get well, so I'm willing to put up with as much

as I can.

Dave.

Posted by: " " JuliusLulaby@...

Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:37 am (PDT)

Hi,

After some days feeling wonderfully well with rounds of 12.5mg of

DMSA/3h, y increased the dose to 25mg/3h. I am on the sixth round and

at the limit of the side effects I can resist or afford.

I wonder to what extent I should be a tough guy (I am not!) and

continue with 25mg. Some hours of the day are really difficult

(headache, photofobia, very tired, coldness...)

but at some other moments (mainly after taking supplements) I feel

pretty well.

I have some concern about the possibility of some remaining amalgam at

root canals or elsewhere. What is the difference between normal side

effects increasing the dose and the sickness coming from mercury

release from hidden amalgam?

I look at these side effects as a confirmation of toxicity. I know

this is a long path and I would be happy if the only problem is to

reduce the dose to something between 12.5mg and 25mg of DMSA.

The list of supplements I am using can be found at

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=p1dnn2rh-U1qQajG6Fm8kAw&output=html

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=p1dnn2rh-U1qQajG6Fm8kAw&output=html>

Any comments will be very welcome.

Thanks in advance,

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi,

> After some days feeling wonderfully well with rounds of 12.5mg of

> DMSA/3h, y increased the dose to 25mg/3h. I am on the sixth round and

> at the limit of the side effects I can resist or afford.

>

> I wonder to what extent I should be a tough guy (I am not!) and

> continue with 25mg. Some hours of the day are really difficult

> (headache, photofobia, very tired, coldness...)

It sounds like the dose is a bit too high.

> but at some other moments (mainly after taking supplements) I feel

> pretty well.

>

> I have some concern about the possibility of some remaining amalgam at

> root canals or elsewhere. What is the difference between normal side

> effects increasing the dose and the sickness coming from mercury

> release from hidden amalgam?

>

I don't think that there would be a difference in the side effects

except that people with hidden amalgam would likely have problems at

even lower doses.

> I look at these side effects as a confirmation of toxicity. I know

> this is a long path and I would be happy if the only problem is to

> reduce the dose to something between 12.5mg and 25mg of DMSA.

>

I used 18 mg per dose and that was just right for a long time.

J

> The list of supplements I am using can be found at

>

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=p1dnn2rh-U1qQajG6Fm8kAw&output=html

>

> Any comments will be very welcome.

> Thanks in advance,

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi,

> After some days feeling wonderfully well with rounds of 12.5mg of

> DMSA/3h, y increased the dose to 25mg/3h. I am on the sixth round and

> at the limit of the side effects I can resist or afford.

Hello ,

I have noticed on the 3rd or 4th round after increasing my ALA dose

that it sometimes gets very difficult. My symptoms are mostly adrenal.

It has happened at least twice and I have had to back down because I

was feeling miserable. The weird thing is, I felt I was doing great on

the first couple rounds at the higher dose, and doing well enough that

I did longer than usual rounds.

Jay

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi,

> After some days feeling wonderfully well with rounds of 12.5mg of

> DMSA/3h, y increased the dose to 25mg/3h. I am on the sixth round and

> at the limit of the side effects I can resist or afford.

Hello ,

I have noticed on the 3rd or 4th round after increasing my ALA dose

that it sometimes gets very difficult. My symptoms are mostly adrenal.

It has happened at least twice and I have had to back down because I

was feeling miserable. The weird thing is, I felt I was doing great on

the first couple rounds at the higher dose, and doing well enough that

I did longer than usual rounds.

Jay