Guest guest Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 Hello all, I would appreciate it very much to get a comment on my question. Some days ago nobody gave one. My own answer - on this moment - is to stick at 25 mg., both. It is going allright. I use 25 mg. dmsa and 25 mg. ala. 12 rounds dmsa only and 13 rounds dmsa and ala. (allways 25 mg.; almost no problems (maybe at the beginning). Yesterday has been my 6 month-point (amalgam-free). My feet feel ligther; my itching is less, though not totally away. My mood is better, and so on, so on, so on. Little things, but for me very noticable. Sometimes (part of) the day is as bad as always; it really are " ups and downs " . My question: because it is going fine I can keep my dosis just this level. But when it would be possible to order and use 37.5 mg ala I would take that level (whithout hesitation). My wife could make that level (I have 50 mg. ala), but that would not be easy. Or I could try just one round 50 mg ala (and 25 mg. dmsa) and see/feel how it goes (why not ? Is it so dangerous ?). So: I have 3 choices: stay at 25 mg. both. 25mg. dmsa and 37.5 mg. ala one round 25mg. dmsa and 50 mg ala. (just look and see/feel). What would you recommend me ? P.s.: Andy Cutler is a great man. Greeting, Simon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 > > Hello all, > > I would appreciate it very much to get a comment > on my question. Some days ago nobody gave one. > My own answer - on this moment - is to stick at 25 mg., both. > > It is going allright. I use 25 mg. dmsa and 25 mg. ala. > 12 rounds dmsa only and 13 rounds dmsa and ala. > (allways 25 mg.; almost no problems (maybe at the beginning). > Yesterday has been my 6 month-point (amalgam-free). > My feet feel ligther; my itching is less, though not totally away. > My mood is better, and so on, so on, so on. > Little things, but for me very noticable. > Sometimes (part of) the day is as bad as always; it really are " ups and downs " . > > My question: because it is going fine I can keep my dosis > just this level. But when it would be possible to order and use 37.5 mg ala > I would take that level (whithout hesitation). My wife could make > that level (I have 50 mg. ala), but that would not be easy. > Or I could try just one round 50 mg ala (and 25 mg. dmsa) > and see/feel how it goes (why not ? Is it so dangerous ?). > > So: I have 3 choices: stay at 25 mg. both. > 25mg. dmsa and 37.5 mg. ala > one round 25mg. dmsa and 50 mg ala. (just look > and see/feel). > > What would you recommend me ? I would try a round at 25 mg DMSA and 37.5 mg ALA to see how it goes. If all is well then I would stay there for about 3 months. The reasons come from what I have heard Andy say in the past - once the dose is right stay there and chelate for several months (which you have already done with the doses you are at now). When increasing, don't increase more than 50% at a time (going from 25 to 50 mg would be doubling, too much too fast, the side effects could scare you). ALA would be the one to increase because it is the " work horse " chelator. Splitting capsules is a pain, but not so difficult. I split 250 mg capsules by 8 to get about 31 mg. It is necessary that the person doing the splitting has a fairly steady hand. Best to you J > > P.s.: Andy Cutler is a great man. > > Greeting, > Simon > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 > > Hello all, > > I would appreciate it very much to get a comment > on my question. Some days ago nobody gave one. > My own answer - on this moment - is to stick at 25 mg., both. > > It is going allright. I use 25 mg. dmsa and 25 mg. ala. > 12 rounds dmsa only and 13 rounds dmsa and ala. > (allways 25 mg.; almost no problems (maybe at the beginning). > Yesterday has been my 6 month-point (amalgam-free). > My feet feel ligther; my itching is less, though not totally away. > My mood is better, and so on, so on, so on. > Little things, but for me very noticable. > Sometimes (part of) the day is as bad as always; it really are " ups and downs " . > > My question: because it is going fine I can keep my dosis > just this level. But when it would be possible to order and use 37.5 mg ala > I would take that level (whithout hesitation). My wife could make > that level (I have 50 mg. ala), but that would not be easy. > Or I could try just one round 50 mg ala (and 25 mg. dmsa) > and see/feel how it goes (why not ? Is it so dangerous ?). > > So: I have 3 choices: stay at 25 mg. both. > 25mg. dmsa and 37.5 mg. ala > one round 25mg. dmsa and 50 mg ala. (just look > and see/feel). > > What would you recommend me ? I would try a round at 25 mg DMSA and 37.5 mg ALA to see how it goes. If all is well then I would stay there for about 3 months. The reasons come from what I have heard Andy say in the past - once the dose is right stay there and chelate for several months (which you have already done with the doses you are at now). When increasing, don't increase more than 50% at a time (going from 25 to 50 mg would be doubling, too much too fast, the side effects could scare you). ALA would be the one to increase because it is the " work horse " chelator. Splitting capsules is a pain, but not so difficult. I split 250 mg capsules by 8 to get about 31 mg. It is necessary that the person doing the splitting has a fairly steady hand. Best to you J > > P.s.: Andy Cutler is a great man. > > Greeting, > Simon > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 Thanks , for your answering. I " ll ask my wife for splitting the capsules and make them 37,5 mg. I am very positive I am on the right track. It is going very good, though " you " can not see the difference; I can feel it and I am very very sure it is going allright. Of course I keep you informed. There are or where not that many men with m.s. on this site. I don't think the diagnosis (m.s.) and/or the symptoms are that important; the course is all that matters. And that is the mercury in your body. Greeting, Simon ________________________________ > To: frequent-dose-chelation > From: lindajaytee@... > Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:36:10 +0000 > Subject: Re: 3 choices > > > --- In frequent-dose-chelation _________________________________________________________________ Bekijk Yes-R's real life soap op MSN Video! http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=nl-nl&tab=m1192527562294&vid=8aff5b76-b78d-4\ b55-8b64-ef7e1d73aab2&playlist=videoByUuids:uuids:50b732c2-c105-41e9-adf0-36bd62\ 7d4eaa,0813da8c-031b-423f-a79d-35d925aee805,5cce447e-948d-43af-9862-45bb6bb9d6d8\ ,6a39138c-f562-4254-be70-9d93343650f8,f9b8d78f-05a4-4c74-8e4b-28d20a4037ab&from=\ NLNL_Yes-R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 Jackie, you said: " Sorry about this Simon. It's nothing personal, just sometimes people get busy with other things, and can't keep up with the lists " . I know. Please don't apoligize. It is a great site and I " appreciate " you all enormously. Andy Cutler in front, but you too. You are so important for other people, like me. Greeting, Simon ________________________________ > To: frequent-dose-chelation > From: jtrunt@... > Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:27:11 -0500 > Subject: Re: 3 choices > > > > > Hello all, > > I would appreciate it very much to get a comment > on my question. Some days ago nobody gave one. > > --------Sorry about this Simon. It's nothing personal, just sometimes people get busy with other things, and can't keep up with the lists. This has happened to me recently. If you don't get a timely response, do what you did and ask the question again, and hopefully somebody reading the new posts will catch it. And not that I know everything, and I don't!, but if someone really wants to hear from me, you can send me a personal email, or point out which post you'd like me to see, and if I'm online, I'll try to get back to you as soon as I can. I go through spells of being on alot, and you probably all get sick of me then!, and then spells of not being on or feeling up to answering much. So it is unpredictable who you will get to answer and when.--------Jackie > > My own answer - on this moment - is to stick at 25 mg., both. > > ----------It's always ok to stick with what is working. If you can chelate consistently at a lower dose, then that is better than trying to push for a higher dose, and then having to take longs breaks to recover.-----------Jackie > > It is going alright. I use 25 mg. dmsa and 25 mg. ala. > 12 rounds dmsa only and 13 rounds dmsa and ala. > (always 25 mg.; almost no problems (maybe at the beginning). > Yesterday has been my 6 month-point (amalgam-free). > My feet feel ligther; my itching is less, though not totally away. > My mood is better, and so on, so on, so on. > Little things, but for me very noticable. > > -----------Great! Even little improvements are a bonus!-----------Jackie > > Sometimes (part of) the day is as bad as always; it really are " ups and downs " . > > ------------I think we pretty much all go through the ups and downs.--------Jackie > > My question: because it is going fine I can keep my doses > just this level. But when it would be possible to order and use 37.5 mg ala > I would take that level (whithout hesitation). My wife could make > that level (I have 50 mg. ala), but that would not be easy. > Or I could try just one round 50 mg ala (and 25 mg. dmsa) > and see/feel how it goes (why not ? Is it so dangerous ?). > > ----------As said, Andy doesn't recommend that big of an increase. Some people try it and get away with it, others don't. Smaller increases are always safer, and remember, you can always stop a round, if things are too bad.-------Jackie > > So: I have 3 choices: stay at 25 mg. both. > 25mg. dmsa and 37.5 mg. ala > one round 25mg. dmsa and 50 mg ala. (just look > and see/feel). > > What would you recommend me ? > > -----------I agree with that trying 37.5mg of ALA with 25mg DMSA would probably be the most reasonable thing to try. Another thought is have you ever tried a round with just ALA? Some people feel better on that alone, some don't, but if you do, it is actually cheaper that way. And there is no way of knowing some of this stuff, without just doing a little experimenting within reason. So that would be another option, is to try a round of just ALA. But if you happen to have lead besides mercury, then sticking with the DMSA/ALA combo would be the thing to do.-----Jackie > > P.s.: Andy Cutler is a great man. > > ---------I agree > > Greeting, > Simon > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 Jackie, you said: " Sorry about this Simon. It's nothing personal, just sometimes people get busy with other things, and can't keep up with the lists " . I know. Please don't apoligize. It is a great site and I " appreciate " you all enormously. Andy Cutler in front, but you too. You are so important for other people, like me. Greeting, Simon ________________________________ > To: frequent-dose-chelation > From: jtrunt@... > Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:27:11 -0500 > Subject: Re: 3 choices > > > > > Hello all, > > I would appreciate it very much to get a comment > on my question. Some days ago nobody gave one. > > --------Sorry about this Simon. It's nothing personal, just sometimes people get busy with other things, and can't keep up with the lists. This has happened to me recently. If you don't get a timely response, do what you did and ask the question again, and hopefully somebody reading the new posts will catch it. And not that I know everything, and I don't!, but if someone really wants to hear from me, you can send me a personal email, or point out which post you'd like me to see, and if I'm online, I'll try to get back to you as soon as I can. I go through spells of being on alot, and you probably all get sick of me then!, and then spells of not being on or feeling up to answering much. So it is unpredictable who you will get to answer and when.--------Jackie > > My own answer - on this moment - is to stick at 25 mg., both. > > ----------It's always ok to stick with what is working. If you can chelate consistently at a lower dose, then that is better than trying to push for a higher dose, and then having to take longs breaks to recover.-----------Jackie > > It is going alright. I use 25 mg. dmsa and 25 mg. ala. > 12 rounds dmsa only and 13 rounds dmsa and ala. > (always 25 mg.; almost no problems (maybe at the beginning). > Yesterday has been my 6 month-point (amalgam-free). > My feet feel ligther; my itching is less, though not totally away. > My mood is better, and so on, so on, so on. > Little things, but for me very noticable. > > -----------Great! Even little improvements are a bonus!-----------Jackie > > Sometimes (part of) the day is as bad as always; it really are " ups and downs " . > > ------------I think we pretty much all go through the ups and downs.--------Jackie > > My question: because it is going fine I can keep my doses > just this level. But when it would be possible to order and use 37.5 mg ala > I would take that level (whithout hesitation). My wife could make > that level (I have 50 mg. ala), but that would not be easy. > Or I could try just one round 50 mg ala (and 25 mg. dmsa) > and see/feel how it goes (why not ? Is it so dangerous ?). > > ----------As said, Andy doesn't recommend that big of an increase. Some people try it and get away with it, others don't. Smaller increases are always safer, and remember, you can always stop a round, if things are too bad.-------Jackie > > So: I have 3 choices: stay at 25 mg. both. > 25mg. dmsa and 37.5 mg. ala > one round 25mg. dmsa and 50 mg ala. (just look > and see/feel). > > What would you recommend me ? > > -----------I agree with that trying 37.5mg of ALA with 25mg DMSA would probably be the most reasonable thing to try. Another thought is have you ever tried a round with just ALA? Some people feel better on that alone, some don't, but if you do, it is actually cheaper that way. And there is no way of knowing some of this stuff, without just doing a little experimenting within reason. So that would be another option, is to try a round of just ALA. But if you happen to have lead besides mercury, then sticking with the DMSA/ALA combo would be the thing to do.-----Jackie > > P.s.: Andy Cutler is a great man. > > ---------I agree > > Greeting, > Simon > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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