Guest guest Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 > > - Q1: Could mercury toxicity itself be the chronic stressor leading > to increased cortisol production throughout the day? I believe it could be. The adrenal cortex is a strong magnet for mercury accumulation (according to autopsy studies), and any mobilization (e.g. from using the cortex) could be causing ongoing damage. I know that when I am on a round, I can physically feel the adrenal stress and its the strongest chelation symptom for me. As for your question about supplementing cortisol, yes it is recommended by the people on sttm/NTHA and to reduce it at night with phosphatidylserine if it is interfering with sleep. If you search their archives, you will find many threads about treating the high cortisol stage. Jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 Thanks for posting, . And I hope you are starting to feel better. > > Did I understand correctly from the test results that you had been > taking oral cortisol within 24 h of the test? That would affect the > results. I would think a person would have to stop for a period of > time, maybe a week, to get accurate results. I did not take the cortisol the day of the test. Previous dose was taken more than 24 hours before. And the dose I was taking was, I believe, very tiny: 0.5mg 1x per day. This dose made absolutely no difference in how I felt. Furthermore, the morning/evening saliva test from May '07 shows a similar trend -- too high in the morning, too low by evening -- and I wasn't on any HC then. So I'm thinking that this tiny supplemental dose of HC, stopped 24 hours prior to the 2/26/08 saliva test, would have a negligible impact on the test results. But maybe I'm wrong on this... > Do you get any of the following symptoms - poor response and crashing > with stress, Yes, any kind of substantial exertion, it seems. > low BP, Yes, it's fairly low. Was 100/60 at one point recently. > dizziness of first standing, Occassionally, but not too severe. > frequent infections and difficulty shaking infections, Not so much. But when I get sick, I get really sick. For example, I was sick last week with what seemed like the flu. The rest of my family was sick, but had much milder symptoms. I was incapacitated for several days with fever, chills, etc., and am still clearing out the congestion this week. So while I haven't been getting sick too often, I really seem to get nailed when it happens -- like my immune system goes on hyperdrive or something. > aches and pains? No. > > I remember Andy saying that men with low testosterone often need to > take the testosterone by injection (with fine needles so it doesn't > hurt). This is something that you might want to follow up on. My > understanding is that testosterone at the right levels should increase > a person's feeling of well being. Good point. Maybe I'll try supplementary testosterone again. Just need to find the right kind of endocrinologist, or perhaps a good D.O. > Before you start T3 you might want to check blood levels of free T3 > and free T4. They should be in the top 1/3 to 1/4 of the normal > range. I would used sustained release T3. If it makes you feel > worse, go back to the cortisol question. The last time I tried T3 (SR), it did seem to make me feel worse. But I'm going to try again because, who knows, maybe I was feeling worse for some other reason that day. When checking for free T3 / T4, are you saying that if the result is NOT in the top 1/3 to 1/4, then supplementing with T3 (SR) makes sense? Or the opposite? Here's an interesting theory: if the goal is to normalize one's cortisol levels, and the individual has really high cortisol along with paradoxical stress response, it seems like one should just try and find the right level of stress/exertion that will lower cortisol enough to get it into their personal 'sweet spot.' I'm sure this is flawed logic... but why? Thanks! Darren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 Thanks for posting, . And I hope you are starting to feel better. > > Did I understand correctly from the test results that you had been > taking oral cortisol within 24 h of the test? That would affect the > results. I would think a person would have to stop for a period of > time, maybe a week, to get accurate results. I did not take the cortisol the day of the test. Previous dose was taken more than 24 hours before. And the dose I was taking was, I believe, very tiny: 0.5mg 1x per day. This dose made absolutely no difference in how I felt. Furthermore, the morning/evening saliva test from May '07 shows a similar trend -- too high in the morning, too low by evening -- and I wasn't on any HC then. So I'm thinking that this tiny supplemental dose of HC, stopped 24 hours prior to the 2/26/08 saliva test, would have a negligible impact on the test results. But maybe I'm wrong on this... > Do you get any of the following symptoms - poor response and crashing > with stress, Yes, any kind of substantial exertion, it seems. > low BP, Yes, it's fairly low. Was 100/60 at one point recently. > dizziness of first standing, Occassionally, but not too severe. > frequent infections and difficulty shaking infections, Not so much. But when I get sick, I get really sick. For example, I was sick last week with what seemed like the flu. The rest of my family was sick, but had much milder symptoms. I was incapacitated for several days with fever, chills, etc., and am still clearing out the congestion this week. So while I haven't been getting sick too often, I really seem to get nailed when it happens -- like my immune system goes on hyperdrive or something. > aches and pains? No. > > I remember Andy saying that men with low testosterone often need to > take the testosterone by injection (with fine needles so it doesn't > hurt). This is something that you might want to follow up on. My > understanding is that testosterone at the right levels should increase > a person's feeling of well being. Good point. Maybe I'll try supplementary testosterone again. Just need to find the right kind of endocrinologist, or perhaps a good D.O. > Before you start T3 you might want to check blood levels of free T3 > and free T4. They should be in the top 1/3 to 1/4 of the normal > range. I would used sustained release T3. If it makes you feel > worse, go back to the cortisol question. The last time I tried T3 (SR), it did seem to make me feel worse. But I'm going to try again because, who knows, maybe I was feeling worse for some other reason that day. When checking for free T3 / T4, are you saying that if the result is NOT in the top 1/3 to 1/4, then supplementing with T3 (SR) makes sense? Or the opposite? Here's an interesting theory: if the goal is to normalize one's cortisol levels, and the individual has really high cortisol along with paradoxical stress response, it seems like one should just try and find the right level of stress/exertion that will lower cortisol enough to get it into their personal 'sweet spot.' I'm sure this is flawed logic... but why? Thanks! Darren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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