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Sorry you're having such a battle but so pleased you're getting the

continued antibiotics until you're well. It's being hit hard as it needs

to be with us. I had a very interesting conversation with some emergency

room personnel last night that make me quite concerned if I went to that

particular hospital that they would recognize what might be minor in

someone else is major for all of us.

As to losing the sense of taste. I've found mine altered by many

medications. Many get thrush mouth from Levaquin (I don't). So these

definitely can effect taste. Keep an eye on your mouth and tongue to be

sure nothing is developing there that needs to be acknowledged.

>

> *Hello all*....I am still battling themiserable bronchitis and now on

> anti-biotic # 3.

> I Had Levaquin in the hospital and Zithromyicin there and at

> home....after 2 weeks..a bit better but

> not back to the " normal " ...still coughing rather deeply and still

sort

> of " gunky'...now I'm on Augmentin

> for 10 more glorious days!!! My ribs still hurt but the heating pad

is

> working and I have some energy !!

> I'm still using the Duo-neb in the nebulizer and it is helping too!

> Spring is here and I'm not planning on missing it!

>

> I do have one question...have any of you lost your sense of taste

and/or

> smell while on antibiotics?

> This has been going on since I was admitted and started on the high

> Levaquin and continues still. It's really weird...just hot,cold,

smooth,

> crunchy.

> No taste...appetite however is really heightened ..I'm still on 30

> Prednisone! I have to stay on that dose until I'm really " back " . Then

> they will

> taper me back to my normal 10mg. I'm trying not to eat...the

puffy-faced

> me is back and I don't especially like that !

>

> I'll try to get to chat tonight if my voice holds out. I may just sign

> in say " hello " and then just ease drop!

>

> --

>

>

> Z 65, fibriotic NSIP/05/PA

>

>

> And " mild " PH/10/07 and Reynaud's too!!

>

> No, NSIP was not self-inflicted...I never smoked!

>

> Potter, reader,carousel lover and MomMom to Darah and Sara

>

> " *I'm gonna be iron like a lion in Zion " Bob Marley*

>

> *Vinca Minor-periwinkle is my flower*

>

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... golly-gee-whiz girl, I'll bet you are tired of all this.

I'm feeling some better and I hope you will too, very soon.

God bless and hugs!

MamaSher; 70, IPF 3-06, OR. NasturtiumsDon't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!

Z...update 4/2/09

Hello all....I am still battling themiserable bronchitis and now on anti-biotic # 3.I Had Levaquin in the hospital and Zithromyicin there and at home....after 2 weeks..a bit better butnot back to the " normal"...still coughing rather deeply and still sort of "gunky'...now I'm on Augmentinfor 10 more glorious days!!! My ribs still hurt but the heating pad is working and I have some energy !!I'm still using the Duo-neb in the nebulizer and it is helping too!Spring is here and I'm not planning on missing it!I do have one question...have any of you lost your sense of taste and/or smell while on antibiotics?This has been going on since I was admitted and started on the high Levaquin and continues still. It's really weird...just hot,cold, smooth, crunchy.No taste...appetite however is really heightened ..I'm still on 30 Prednisone! I have to stay on that dose until I'm really "back". Then they willtaper me back to my normal 10mg. I'm trying not to eat...the puffy-faced me is back and I don't especially like that !I'll try to get to chat tonight if my voice holds out. I may just sign in say "hello" and then just ease drop!

--

Z 65, fibriotic NSIP/05/PA

And “mild” PH/10/07 and Reynaud’s too!!

No, NSIP was not self-inflicted…I never smoked!

Potter, reader,carousel lover and MomMom to Darah and Sara

“I’m gonna be iron like a lion in Zion” Bob Marley

Vinca Minor-periwinkle is my flower

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This is no UP date Sista.. THIS is a DOWN date....no good I say.....how mean to have the Steroid Hunger Pangs WITHOUT your tastebuds & honker working properly!

Maybe it'll help keep you in line tho'......

My sense of smell comes n' goes & mostly is GONE (I now have a 'remembered' database in my brain of what 'NICE" smells, smell like... don't want to remember the Yukky ones!) Actually I'm so used to it now that getting my smell back can be off-putting! Everything is too strong!

I reckon that's why I put so much sugar & salt into my food.... tastebuds go hand in hand with smell.. if one is 'off' so is the t'other!

Texture is my number 1 attraction to food... crunchy is tops for me! Oh & the SIGHT of food is really important too.... it HAS to LOOK attractive on a plate & on the Table! Colour is a huge part of that!

Am I talking about FOOD.. EATING... it must be yet another cool, wet day here.....

STOP ! NOW!

Cheers... do get better SOON Lioness of Zioness..... how is your Jungle 'Fever' goin'.... is Mike still hiding???????????????????

SGIO/GIO

>> *Hello all*....I am still battling themiserable bronchitis and now on > anti-biotic # 3.> I Had Levaquin in the hospital and Zithromyicin there and at > home....after 2 weeks..a bit better but> not back to the " normal"...still coughing rather deeply and still sort > of "gunky'...now I'm on Augmentin> for 10 more glorious days!!! My ribs still hurt but the heating pad is > working and I have some energy !!> I'm still using the Duo-neb in the nebulizer and it is helping too!> Spring is here and I'm not planning on missing it!> > I do have one question...have any of you lost your sense of taste and/or > smell while on antibiotics?> This has been going on since I was admitted and started on the high > Levaquin and continues still. It's really weird...just hot,cold, smooth, > crunchy.> No taste...appetite however is really heightened ..I'm still on 30 > Prednisone! I have to stay on that dose until I'm really "back". Then > they will> taper me back to my normal 10mg. I'm trying not to eat...the puffy-faced > me is back and I don't especially like that !> > I'll try to get to chat tonight if my voice holds out. I may just sign > in say "hello" and then just ease drop!> > -- > > > Z 65, fibriotic NSIP/05/PA> > > And "mild" PH/10/07 and Reynaud's too!!> > No, NSIP was not self-inflicted...I never smoked!> > Potter, reader,carousel lover and MomMom to Darah and Sara > > "*I'm gonna be iron like a lion in Zion" Bob Marley*> > *Vinca Minor-periwinkle is my flower*>

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I have surprised myself and lost about 10 pounds in the last 2 months.

Started with stomach virus, then diabetic diet counting carbs -- 1200 calories, 150 grams carbs per day

this started while still on 30 - 20 mgs prednisone

now on 15 mgs prednisone, still counting carbs due to glucose

really surprised myself, thought it impossible due to prednisone, not even trying to lose weight, just watching carbs due to glucose

Pink Joyce IPF 3/06 Pennsylvania

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Subject: Re: Re: Z...update 4/2/09To: Breathe-Support Date: Thursday, April 2, 2009, 8:42 PM

hi, guys. just jumping in for a bit. Do hunger pangs from our friendly steroids ease up for awhile then come back?? Have been sick last 2 weeks, under the weather. Really have not been hungry, however, have forced myself to eat and drink fluids. Then, today I can not get full!! I am famished, and have annoying hunger pangs. I eat and 10 minutes later I could eat again. Help! Suggestions appreciated. Too tired to haul o2 tank out to car in the rain to travel in the dark to store to get that Symphony Chocolate Bar with almonds and toffee that would be fantastic right now;)Last week, in a valiant effort to try to lose weight that I have been gaining for tons of reasons, I decided only healthy food in house, so on last shopping trip no junk food. WHAT WAS I THINKING!!!!LOL,Later, NSIP 08 NC> From: <gina.francis@ bigpond.com>> Subject: Re: Z...update 4/2/09> To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com> Date: Thursday, April 2, 2009, 8:10 PM> This is no UP date Sista.. THIS is a DOWN date....no good I> say.....how> mean to have the Steroid Hunger Pangs WITHOUT your> tastebuds & honker> working properly!> > Maybe it'll help keep you in line tho'......> > My sense of smell comes n' goes & mostly is GONE (I> now have a> 'remembered' database in my brain of what> 'NICE" smells, smell like...> don't want to remember the Yukky ones!) Actually> I'm so used to it now>

that getting my smell back can be off-putting! Everything> is too strong!> > I reckon that's why I put so much sugar & salt into> my food....> tastebuds go hand in hand with smell.. if one is> 'off' so is the> t'other!> > Texture is my number 1 attraction to food... crunchy is> tops for me! Oh> & the SIGHT of food is really important too.... it HAS> to LOOK> attractive on a plate & on the Table! Colour is a huge> part of that!> > Am I talking about FOOD.. EATING... it must be yet another> cool, wet day> here.....> > STOP ! NOW!> > Cheers... do get better SOON Lioness of Zioness..... how is> your Jungle> 'Fever' goin'.... is Mike still> hiding?????? ????????? ????> > SGIO/GIO> > > > > > > > >> > *Hello all*....I am still battling themiserable> bronchitis and now on> > anti-biotic # 3.> > I Had Levaquin in the hospital and Zithromyicin there> and at> > home....after 2 weeks..a bit better but> > not back to the " normal"...still coughing> rather deeply and still> sort> > of "gunky'...now I'm on Augmentin> > for 10 more glorious days!!! My ribs still hurt but> the heating pad is> > working and I have some energy !!> > I'm still using the Duo-neb in the nebulizer and> it is helping too!> > Spring is here and I'm not planning on missing it!> >> > I do have one question...have any of you lost your> sense of

taste> and/or> > smell while on antibiotics?> > This has been going on since I was admitted and> started on the high> > Levaquin and continues still. It's really> weird...just hot,cold,> smooth,> > crunchy.> > No taste...appetite however is really heightened> ..I'm still on 30> > Prednisone! I have to stay on that dose until I'm> really "back". Then> > they will> > taper me back to my normal 10mg. I'm trying not to> eat...the> puffy-faced> > me is back and I don't especially like that !> >> > I'll try to get to chat tonight if my voice holds> out. I may just sign> > in say "hello" and then just ease drop!> >> > --> >> >> > Z 65, fibriotic NSIP/05/PA> >> >> > And "mild" PH/10/07 and

Reynaud's too!!> >> > No, NSIP was not self-inflicted. ..I never smoked!> >> > Potter, reader,carousel lover and MomMom to Darah and> Sara> >> > "*I'm gonna be iron like a lion in Zion"> Bob Marley*> >> > *Vinca Minor-periwinkle is my flower*> >

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I have surprised myself and lost about 10 pounds in the last 2 months.

Started with stomach virus, then diabetic diet counting carbs -- 1200 calories, 150 grams carbs per day

this started while still on 30 - 20 mgs prednisone

now on 15 mgs prednisone, still counting carbs due to glucose

really surprised myself, thought it impossible due to prednisone, not even trying to lose weight, just watching carbs due to glucose

Pink Joyce IPF 3/06 Pennsylvania

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Subject: Re: Re: Z...update 4/2/09To: Breathe-Support Date: Thursday, April 2, 2009, 8:42 PM

hi, guys. just jumping in for a bit. Do hunger pangs from our friendly steroids ease up for awhile then come back?? Have been sick last 2 weeks, under the weather. Really have not been hungry, however, have forced myself to eat and drink fluids. Then, today I can not get full!! I am famished, and have annoying hunger pangs. I eat and 10 minutes later I could eat again. Help! Suggestions appreciated. Too tired to haul o2 tank out to car in the rain to travel in the dark to store to get that Symphony Chocolate Bar with almonds and toffee that would be fantastic right now;)Last week, in a valiant effort to try to lose weight that I have been gaining for tons of reasons, I decided only healthy food in house, so on last shopping trip no junk food. WHAT WAS I THINKING!!!!LOL,Later, NSIP 08 NC> From: <gina.francis@ bigpond.com>> Subject: Re: Z...update 4/2/09> To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com> Date: Thursday, April 2, 2009, 8:10 PM> This is no UP date Sista.. THIS is a DOWN date....no good I> say.....how> mean to have the Steroid Hunger Pangs WITHOUT your> tastebuds & honker> working properly!> > Maybe it'll help keep you in line tho'......> > My sense of smell comes n' goes & mostly is GONE (I> now have a> 'remembered' database in my brain of what> 'NICE" smells, smell like...> don't want to remember the Yukky ones!) Actually> I'm so used to it now>

that getting my smell back can be off-putting! Everything> is too strong!> > I reckon that's why I put so much sugar & salt into> my food....> tastebuds go hand in hand with smell.. if one is> 'off' so is the> t'other!> > Texture is my number 1 attraction to food... crunchy is> tops for me! Oh> & the SIGHT of food is really important too.... it HAS> to LOOK> attractive on a plate & on the Table! Colour is a huge> part of that!> > Am I talking about FOOD.. EATING... it must be yet another> cool, wet day> here.....> > STOP ! NOW!> > Cheers... do get better SOON Lioness of Zioness..... how is> your Jungle> 'Fever' goin'.... is Mike still> hiding?????? ????????? ????> > SGIO/GIO> > > > > > > > >> > *Hello all*....I am still battling themiserable> bronchitis and now on> > anti-biotic # 3.> > I Had Levaquin in the hospital and Zithromyicin there> and at> > home....after 2 weeks..a bit better but> > not back to the " normal"...still coughing> rather deeply and still> sort> > of "gunky'...now I'm on Augmentin> > for 10 more glorious days!!! My ribs still hurt but> the heating pad is> > working and I have some energy !!> > I'm still using the Duo-neb in the nebulizer and> it is helping too!> > Spring is here and I'm not planning on missing it!> >> > I do have one question...have any of you lost your> sense of

taste> and/or> > smell while on antibiotics?> > This has been going on since I was admitted and> started on the high> > Levaquin and continues still. It's really> weird...just hot,cold,> smooth,> > crunchy.> > No taste...appetite however is really heightened> ..I'm still on 30> > Prednisone! I have to stay on that dose until I'm> really "back". Then> > they will> > taper me back to my normal 10mg. I'm trying not to> eat...the> puffy-faced> > me is back and I don't especially like that !> >> > I'll try to get to chat tonight if my voice holds> out. I may just sign> > in say "hello" and then just ease drop!> >> > --> >> >> > Z 65, fibriotic NSIP/05/PA> >> >> > And "mild" PH/10/07 and

Reynaud's too!!> >> > No, NSIP was not self-inflicted. ..I never smoked!> >> > Potter, reader,carousel lover and MomMom to Darah and> Sara> >> > "*I'm gonna be iron like a lion in Zion"> Bob Marley*> >> > *Vinca Minor-periwinkle is my flower*> >

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You've struck upon something I think worth emphasizing. I think with the

prescription of Prednisone should come the prescription for a

nutritionist specializing in diabetes. We know both weight and diabetes

are major risks from it and strong preventive attempts might help, as

impossible as it seems to maintain while on it. There are other meds

with similar issues. For instance, Zyprexa which is used for mental

illnesses and sleep problems creates extreme carbohydrate cravings in

many people. It just seems a greater attempt by the medical profession

to help the patient attack the typical side effects head-on would be

appropriate.

ly, even the healthiest of us could generally benefit from the

moderate carbohydrate limitation you're talking about. 150 grams is

actually a reasonable amount and affords a fairly broad range of food

choices. The more extreme diets allow far less (<20).

> > >

> > > *Hello all*....I am still battling themiserable

> > bronchitis and now on

> > > anti-biotic # 3.

> > > I Had Levaquin in the hospital and Zithromyicin there

> > and at

> > > home....after 2 weeks..a bit better but

> > > not back to the " normal " ...still coughing

> > rather deeply and still

> > sort

> > > of " gunky'...now I'm on Augmentin

> > > for 10 more glorious days!!! My ribs still hurt but

> > the heating pad is

> > > working and I have some energy !!

> > > I'm still using the Duo-neb in the nebulizer and

> > it is helping too!

> > > Spring is here and I'm not planning on missing it!

> > >

> > > I do have one question...have any of you lost your

> > sense of taste

> > and/or

> > > smell while on antibiotics?

> > > This has been going on since I was admitted and

> > started on the high

> > > Levaquin and continues still. It's really

> > weird...just hot,cold,

> > smooth,

> > > crunchy.

> > > No taste...appetite however is really heightened

> > ..I'm still on 30

> > > Prednisone! I have to stay on that dose until I'm

> > really " back " . Then

> > > they will

> > > taper me back to my normal 10mg. I'm trying not to

> > eat...the

> > puffy-faced

> > > me is back and I don't especially like that !

> > >

> > > I'll try to get to chat tonight if my voice holds

> > out. I may just sign

> > > in say " hello " and then just ease drop!

> > >

> > > --

> > >

> > >

> > > Z 65, fibriotic NSIP/05/PA

> > >

> > >

> > > And " mild " PH/10/07 and Reynaud's too!!

> > >

> > > No, NSIP was not self-inflicted. ..I never smoked!

> > >

> > > Potter, reader,carousel lover and MomMom to Darah and

> > Sara

> > >

> > > " *I'm gonna be iron like a lion in Zion "

> > Bob Marley*

> > >

> > > *Vinca Minor-periwinkle is my flower*

> > >

>

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Subject: Re: Re: Z...update 4/2/09To: Breathe-Support Date: Friday, April 3, 2009, 12:03 PM

PinkJ...

Just happened to see your post down below Bruce's here...

Anyone who can lose weight at any time by any means deserves a brass band!

MamaSher; 70, IPF 3-06, OR. NasturtiumsDon't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!

Re: Z...update 4/2/09

PinkYou've struck upon something I think worth emphasizing. I think with theprescription of Prednisone should come the prescription for anutritionist specializing in diabetes. We know both weight and diabetesare major risks from it and strong preventive attempts might help, asimpossible as it seems to maintain while on it. There are other medswith similar issues. For instance, Zyprexa which is used for mentalillnesses and sleep problems creates extreme carbohydrate cravings inmany people. It just seems a greater attempt by the medical professionto help the patient attack the typical side effects head-on would beappropriate.ly, even the healthiest of us could generally benefit from themoderate carbohydrate limitation you're talking about. 150 grams isactually a reasonable amount and affords a fairly broad range of foodchoices. The more extreme diets allow far less

(<20).> > >> > > *Hello all*....I am still battling themiserable> > bronchitis and now on> > > anti-biotic # 3.> > > I Had Levaquin in the hospital and Zithromyicin there> > and at> > > home....after 2 weeks..a bit better but> > > not back to the " normal"...still coughing> > rather deeply and still> > sort> > > of "gunky'...now I'm on Augmentin> > > for 10 more glorious days!!! My ribs still hurt but> > the

heating pad is> > > working and I have some energy !!> > > I'm still using the Duo-neb in the nebulizer and> > it is helping too!> > > Spring is here and I'm not planning on missing it!> > >> > > I do have one question...have any of you lost your> > sense of taste> > and/or> > > smell while on antibiotics?> > > This has been going on since I was admitted and> > started on the high> > > Levaquin and continues still. It's really> > weird...just hot,cold,> > smooth,> > > crunchy.> > > No taste...appetite however is really heightened> > ..I'm still on 30> > > Prednisone! I have to stay on that dose until I'm> > really "back". Then> > > they will> > > taper me back to my normal 10mg. I'm trying not to> >

eat...the> > puffy-faced> > > me is back and I don't especially like that !> > >> > > I'll try to get to chat tonight if my voice holds> > out. I may just sign> > > in say "hello" and then just ease drop!> > >> > > --> > >> > >> > > Z 65, fibriotic NSIP/05/PA> > >> > >> > > And "mild" PH/10/07 and Reynaud's too!!> > >> > > No, NSIP was not self-inflicted. ..I never smoked!> > >> > > Potter, reader,carousel lover and MomMom to Darah and> > Sara> > >> > > "*I'm gonna be iron like a lion in Zion"> > Bob Marley*> > >> > > *Vinca Minor-periwinkle is my flower*> > >>

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