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Yes I must say I always *think* the death penalty is a good idea,

until it is carried out, and I read about it, and I get totally

sickened at the cold bloodedness of it. Somehow a murder, however,

ghastly, one can understand on one level or other; it's the work of a

sick mind; it's a crime of passion or revenge or desire.

But to coldbloodedly take the life of another human being in that

preplanned way, after years of torturous waiting and knowing it is

going to happen, that is barbaric. Lethal injection may be the most

humane way to do it, but the person still ends up dead, and knowing he

is going to die at x time on x day must, despite all bravado, be the

worst thing imaginable.

In our religion, we learn that one of the greatest kindnesses God gave

to man, is that he shouldn't know the day or time of his death.

Ruthie.

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> Yes I must say I always *think* the death penalty is a good

idea,

> until it is carried out, and I read about it, and I get totally

> sickened at the cold bloodedness of it.

I agree with you and Debbie. It would have been emough to have

him stuck in jail for the rest of his life - then at least he may have

admitted that he had an accomplice - now we will never know.

Caroline

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> > Yes I must say I always *think* the death penalty is a good

> idea,

> > until it is carried out, and I read about it, and I get totally

> > sickened at the cold bloodedness of it.

> I agree with you and Debbie. It would have been emough to have

> him stuck in jail for the rest of his life <<

Unfortunately though, life imprisonment doesn't always mean that and

the person ends up getting out.

The people he killed never got the option of life, he took it away

from them. If my children had been in that building then I wouldn't

have wanted him to carry on living his life when he had taken theirs.

Lorraine

Mum to 10, Natasha 8, 5, ph 3

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> > Yes I must say I always *think* the death penalty is a good

> idea,

> > until it is carried out, and I read about it, and I get totally

> > sickened at the cold bloodedness of it.

> I agree with you and Debbie. It would have been emough to have

> him stuck in jail for the rest of his life <<

Unfortunately though, life imprisonment doesn't always mean that and

the person ends up getting out.

The people he killed never got the option of life, he took it away

from them. If my children had been in that building then I wouldn't

have wanted him to carry on living his life when he had taken theirs.

Lorraine

Mum to 10, Natasha 8, 5, ph 3

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> > Yes I must say I always *think* the death penalty is a good

> idea,

> > until it is carried out, and I read about it, and I get totally

> > sickened at the cold bloodedness of it.

> I agree with you and Debbie. It would have been emough to have

> him stuck in jail for the rest of his life <<

Unfortunately though, life imprisonment doesn't always mean that and

the person ends up getting out.

The people he killed never got the option of life, he took it away

from them. If my children had been in that building then I wouldn't

have wanted him to carry on living his life when he had taken theirs.

Lorraine

Mum to 10, Natasha 8, 5, ph 3

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I apologise for opening what could be a difficult debate. Perhaps

we should conclude it by giving our children an extra hug today

and a little silent prayer or thought for the 19 small children who

died - along with the hundred or so fathers, mothers, daughters

and sons.

Caroline

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I apologise for opening what could be a difficult debate. Perhaps

we should conclude it by giving our children an extra hug today

and a little silent prayer or thought for the 19 small children who

died - along with the hundred or so fathers, mothers, daughters

and sons.

Caroline

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I apologise for opening what could be a difficult debate. Perhaps

we should conclude it by giving our children an extra hug today

and a little silent prayer or thought for the 19 small children who

died - along with the hundred or so fathers, mothers, daughters

and sons.

Caroline

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Me too. He committed a horrific crime and maybe people like him don't

deserve to live. But I feel strongly that we do not have the right to

take away life, either.

It was interesting to hear some of the comments from the victims

relatives that they had expected to feel a sense of relief and closure

at his death, but that hadn't happened. In fact, the article I read

said that the person usually worst affected by an execution is the

mother. An unearthly wail and keening is the usual response to the

death of her child - after all, he was her baby once.

Lesley

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From: DebS

When the news came through that McVeigh had been executed I

felt

terribly sad that another life had been lost.

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> Unfortunately though, life imprisonment doesn't always mean that and

> the person ends up getting out.

In the US there is a sentence called 'life without parole' where life does

mean life. This is often what DP sentences are commuted to after 15 years

spent appealing.

Jenni

(& Gethyn) nearly 17yrs, Mari 3yrs (HB), Babi Bach exp.09/2001

" This Day Will Never Dawn Again "

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>While I too was very upset by the Oklohoma bomb, I just

>can't accept that it

>is right to kill someone else in response - however evil

>the actions.

I agree completely. If it had been my child, DH, or whoever

that died in the building, yes, I would like to kill

whoever did it, but I’d be more likely to want to do it

with my bare hands and the initial rage would have passed,

leaving aching resentment and lifelong anger. I don’t think

that watching McVeigh die would make me feel

better.

The death sentence in the USA is inequally applied and

racist and ridiculous. It makes me ill. There *are* ways to

keep a killer in prison for his/her whole life and it

actually works out to be cheaper than the death penalty,

since a death sentence carries automatic appeals, funded by

taxes, then a certain number get out on a technicality –

probably a higher percentage than those who were given life

in prison.

Anyway, in the USA, I’m a raging left-wing loonie for

saying things like this. In the civilised world, it’s not

so rare or so tied to party politics.

Phyllis (token American)

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